Newbie 1984 - Game Over

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VOTE: ROUND ONE
cit claim

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Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

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Oh boy. At first I was going to complain about the SE's not setting Hectic straight for his trash tier posting. But then I realized he was an SE, even though he says he's quite new. Then again in my last game the SE's were the ones making all the questionable moves. Do people typically get worse at mafia the more they play?

Hey, friends!

I'm quite new, so is it okay if I lurk this game and try to learn from the more experienced people? Also, should we mass claim? It could be useful to talk about who we target in the night. I will start: I am the Town Goon. I am not allowed to target anyone in the night.

VOTE: 72offsuit

This is somehow worse than the first post of a person in my last game, which got her massively scumread and lynch-mobbed. You are playing a complete fool on purpose here. I'm guessing you are trying to get an actual vanilla townie newb to be like "hey, it shouldn't say town goon!" and then vote for you because you look like a terrible scum player who just tipped their hand. So I guess I'll go ahead and grant you your wish and vote for you because it's not supposed to say town goon.
VOTE: Hectic

After reading further I find that Hectic actually has thousands of hours of mafia gametime. But I'll keep my vote here to see where he's taking us with this style of posting.

not valid its memephase

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Well this is my third game and I have yet to encounter something called memephase in the other two.

you know how people tend to shitpost at the start of games
thats memephase
I believe that here its just referred to as RVS with a notable lack of memes, but hey, sometimes its gonna happen efwsef

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Well this is my third game and I have yet to encounter something called memephase in the other two.

you know how people tend to shitpost at the start of games
thats memephase
I believe that here its just referred to as RVS with a notable lack of memes, but hey, sometimes its gonna happen

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oops

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im here

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72offsuit

Luca Blight (SE)
Hectic (SE)
DkKoba

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dsjstr
Natsu

ArthurConyl

as usual

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*yawn* dp is condescending as fuck god

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nvm actually I don't hate it

yoyo'd

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I'll let you in on a secret, Detective; I'm actually a quarter-Pikachu.

is this some weird rp
did I not get the memo

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Are you seriously taking someone whose name can be shortened to R1 and nicknaming her Ronda instead?

completely unnecessary both is fine and youre nitpicking


I want to think that hectic and detective pikachu are scum, buuuuuut Im not sure if they can be scum together
but its always possible
so im just gonna keep it as both of them being scum for now

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I'm not sure what to do with self-vote open immediately followed by normal RVS but thought the "its memephase" explanation of the gamestate was ~ok? gonna need more before I decide there

uh so
did you not understand the context or

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Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

This feels like a genuine vote for a light scumread, as far as i understand for posting 'fluff'
Have i understood this post correctly?

hello yes the game did *just* start and that was my only scumread at the time

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block done
is anyone here to talk to or

also these day lengths god

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block done
is anyone here to talk to or

also these day lengths god

Its a maximum not a requirement

yeah, majority is a thing I know
the issue is people tend to not want to hammer unless its further through the game or late game

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don't like r1's catchup tbh but luca is still top scum

explain and explain

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Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

also this post is trash

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Your solving is a bit superficial and overly focused on playstyle whereas luca is just not solving at all so far

thats because so far everything done has been basically nothing
youre overly focused on scumtells that arent scumtells? I dont really get that because thats very specific

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More and more baffled by the "condescending" post from r1 lol

do you not know what the word means or are you just too full of yourself
chose wisely

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also my reading is because tosfm
because always blame tosfm
like even if its completely unrelated to mafia
tosfm

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If you scumread everyone who doesn't play the way you want them to play you will always have a wealth of scumreads and a graveyard full of green

????????????????????????????????????????????
I think you completely misread why I scumread you and the person I forgot the name of

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not that I actually remember why I scumread you two, but I know it isnt that

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Tosfm?

the depths of mafia hell

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What's your take on luca rn?

@r1

I'll be honest
I dont think ive seen anything notable from them
have they like
posted at all
or is my memory just making me bad again

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Town of salem... forum mafia?

tos
but not turbo
and also the players arent anywhere near as bad as ToS players
but still
theyre tosfmers

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What's your take on luca rn?

@r1

I'll be honest
I dont think ive seen anything notable from them
have they like
posted at all
or is my memory just making me bad again

This is your take on someone who is fully capable of obvtowning by page 20 fyi

He rolled scum is my current thought

If I'm wrong on him I was probably right about arthur given his weird list, but it's probably just luca

you know I have absolutely no way to know that
and you know that it is very possible to fake obvtowning
so why wouldnt they do that as scum

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R1 can be dark green

you do that alot dont you

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hey could be worse, they could be from epicmafia

I refuse to believe epicmafia is real despite being on it
there is worse
the worse mafia community ive ever seen is technically my fault
so thats fun

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have I only made 29 posts this game? god

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hey could be worse, they could be from epicmafia

I refuse to believe epicmafia is real despite being on it
there is worse
the worse mafia community ive ever seen is technically my fault
so thats fun

Was more of a self jab since thats where im from

still

there is worse

i come from irl mafia cause thats gamer

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is this what all games are like here or

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@dk
https://www.roblox.com/users/681266275/profile
is this your card

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hey could be worse, they could be from epicmafia

I refuse to believe epicmafia is real despite being on it
there is worse
the worse mafia community ive ever seen is technically my fault
so thats fun

What community is that?

it technically a series of mafia communities, that lived and fallen
but basically:

M29
| TTAG
|| SHM
||| DM
in that order
the further you go down the worse the community gets
m29 was the birth of the communities, but the people I gathered to learn to play mafia slowly brought over their friends who were more skeptical
and they were tos trash
not tosfm
town of salem
the actual game
and DM is the latest generation and its terrifying how bad it is
its literally just called Discord Mafia

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hey could be worse, they could be from epicmafia

I refuse to believe epicmafia is real despite being on it
there is worse
the worse mafia community ive ever seen is technically my fault
so thats fun

What community is that?

it technically a series of mafia communities, that lived and fallen
but basically:

M29
| TTAG
|| SHM
||| DM
in that order
the further you go down the worse the community gets
m29 was the birth of the communities, but the people I gathered to learn to play mafia slowly brought over their friends who were more skeptical
and they were tos trash
not tosfm
town of salem
the actual game
and DM is the latest generation and its terrifying how bad it is
its literally just called Discord Mafia

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is this what all games are like here or

What is this game like?

inactive, lacking in content, and generally there isnt really any real arguments happening
i get its still pretty early but still

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^hello _where ^did _you ^go

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How you doing, Ronda

please stop calling me that

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Newbie games aren't gonna be that fast. It's usually more chill and most players are getting their footing. You should join the slightly larger games in the other queues after this if you want fast paced stuff.

Why Pikachu and I as scum?

the like
singular newbie game I played anywhere
was much less this
this isnt slow, this is a standstill

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How you doing, Ronda

please stop calling me that

Fine, Rondoe

my name is jaiden so that or r1
that is until I go onto a new account like always

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Ngl lurksack towns are one of the two main issues of this site, the other being egomaniac spam posters ;P

looks like Im nearly fitting in uwu

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*sip*

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when did I start getting voted
and what the actual fuck is the mod doing what

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So, Jaiden, why Pikachu and I then? Because we're townreading each other?

not at all, in fact, ive completely forgot

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So far I'm townleaning Hectic and Round one. Hectic has some eccentric, well-honed style of geniusness that is producing information earlier on. Although I'm really not liking the weird naming schemes he's using. Half the time I have no idea who he is talking about. Who is jaiden?

Round One has an idgaf posting style, and overall looks like they know what they're talking about.

I'm kind of scumleaning pikachu, but that might be due to how shallowly he is bumping heads with Round One.

Scumleaning Luca as well for being afk, while only coming out of it to pocket Arthur and myself.

Pretty much null-reading everyone else. I'm finding it pretty silly that people are bringing up scum teams this early. Also, this thread moves too fast at times. I'm hoping the massive amounts of tiny one-line posts dies out. I feel like mass-spamming the thread helps mafia more (looking at pikachu especially on this one). More than town players who say literally nothing. There's shit that I swear I saw of value that I can't even find again after rebrowsing the thread. Guess I'll have to take more frivolous notes.

me

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Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

oh that
I felt that was completely unnecessary and faking contribution

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Mostly for 28 tbh. I agree with most of the thoughts in 184, but maybe I'm being buddyed. He just hasn't done anything wrong so far. What don't you like?

thonk
so you did read that I completely forgot but still asked me why
interesting
its not ai in any way, but still

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day 1s are almost categorically too long on this site

^^^^^^
the longest day length ive ever played before this was 120hrs
this is like double

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I've loathed day 1s ever since boon fake claimed masons with my scumread (who was scum), second scum claimed gunsmith, third scum claimed doctor, and I was vig

like there's no way to effectively evaluate claims

scum are always dragged to l-1 and then wagon dissolves and people townread them because "blah blah wagon analysis"

imo game begins day 2 unless the player list is like extraordinarily easy to read

game always begins day 2
day 1 is the pl/vote analysis lynch imo

also town fakeclaiming masons with scum is the best part of mafia wdym

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Cool, I'm not here to join any townblocks. I'm guessing that's some kind of town clique? Seems more like building your own tomb.

why are you asking to die

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Since you seem like a reasonable player, would mind unvoting so mafia can't quickhammer?

Arthur, why are you concerned about mafia quickhammering here? Isn't it fine for me to die if you can lynch the mafia who hammered me the next day?

Ignoring the fact Pikachu may have quickhammered as town.

oh if I wasnt voted and it was L-1 I wouldve totally quickhammered for shits and giggles

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Actually executing policy lynches on this site is tantamount to impossible

yeah it seems like everywhere is like that nowadays
but all you have to do is believe

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Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

I’m above such things.

answered a bad question with a bad answer.
I can't tell if thats what you meant or youre just blatant scum at this point

[Hectic,Luca]
the detective is town because they are like almost never scum with hectic

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Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

This is a baseless assertion.

correct

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Conclusions so far (from town to scum):
==========
Everyone else (no order):
Natsu - would be more comfortable if you didn't put Hectic at L-2
DkKoba
72offsuit
ArthurConyl
ROUND ONE
Luca Blight (SE)

like, ok so the second part is literally just copy pasting the OP and taking out the three people he has reads on

if so, a) why start by saying it's town to scum
b) why copy paste the names you're not sorting
c) why keep your own name in the list?

that being said Luca still looks more like frozen scum to me than this, this is more baffling to me than objectively scummy

Frozen scum?

You seem to be rushing a read on me based entirely on RVS play, and it seems disingenuous tbh.

oh youre actually trying to not die now I see
this too is very true
noted

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Mmmm mmmm it can be

I think scum are more likely to pick pointless fights thinking it will make them seem townie

false

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Det v Luca is interesting, because both of them seem scummy
is it SvS? Could be, idk
more likely its TvS, but who is the town
I got no clue
You two, stop being scummy
kthx

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This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.

You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.

So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?

I like my vote here for now.

VOTE: Pikachu

why do you vote now instead of when you first read him as scum earlier?

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Hmm natsu, arthur, and luca all have cognitive load but only 2 are scum

Still ok with luca/arthur for the moment tho

false

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Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

B

This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking

notice how his scumreads are the people hectic called out for absolutely no reason
interesting

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block done
is anyone here to talk to or

also these day lengths god

Its a maximum not a requirement

yeah, majority is a thing I know
the issue is people tend to not want to hammer unless its further through the game or late game

No sense to rush, the more time spent discussing the better. Dangle that noose for scum to slip their neck through.

the longer the days, the harder town tends to lose wim

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*yawn* dp is condescending as fuck god

Don't really like this post - after DK has voiced annoyance at DP's gimmicky posting
and AC has criticised DP's town-to-scum-scale based off his RVS reads
- drumming up anti-pikachu vibes rather than pointing out any scummyness

I didnt really have much to say at the time about him except that
and it had to be known to him
because reality check

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Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

oh that
I felt that was completely unnecessary and faking contribution

If you thought that AC post was scummy, then hop onto the shiny AC lynch train

in the post, spoilered is the hectic post arthur was talking about

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tl;dr - scum is within {dsjstr
Natsu
DkKoba
72offsuit
ArthurConyl
ROUND ONE
Hectic (SE)
Detective Pikachu (SE)
Luca Blight (SE)
}


Town
Me
Arthur
72

Null (top is town-null,bottom is scumnull)
DK
Natsu

Scumreads
Luca
DP
Hectic

Naturally im sure the nullreads are town *for now*, but in a case I had to lynch between them id pick Natsu

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catchup done
ama

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*sip*

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Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

I’m above such things.

answered a bad question with a bad answer.
I can't tell if thats what you meant or youre just blatant scum at this point

[Hectic,Luca]
the detective is town because they are like almost never scum with hectic

It was a flippant remark, but the fact is I never answer RQS - I’ve always believed they’re not only useless but anti-Town.

fair enough tbh

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This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.

You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.

So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?

I like my vote here for now.

VOTE: Pikachu

why do you vote now instead of when you first read him as scum earlier?

Because, having questioned Pikachu over his reasoning, it confirmed my initial belief that he’s forcing his scumread rather than it being a result of genuine scumhunting.

hm

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can everyone die except me kthx

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R1 can you expand on why you see hectic scum?

no

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i dont remember pog

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i dont remember pog

What about Arthur for town?

poe and he just wasnt blatant scum

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Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)

Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that

72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

R1: Town - good boy

Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him

Koba: Null - Sure

"R1: Town - good boy"
dont

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VC 1.4

[3] ArthurConyl:

DkKoba, 72offsuit, Hectic

[2] Detective Pikachu:

Luca Blight, Natsu

[1] Hectic:

ROUND ONE

[1] dsjstr:

ArthurConyl

[1] Luca Blight:

Detective Pikachu

[1] Not Voting:

dsjstr

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2020-02-15 03:30:38)

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

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Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)

Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that

72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

R1: Town - good boy

Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him

Koba: Null - Sure

"R1: Town - good boy"
dont

R1: Town - Good girl

ok thats better in one way but not in the other way

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ive only got 75 posts
disgusting

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R1 can you explain your vote on me?

I think ur scum
and youre being pushed the hardest

Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)

Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that

72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

R1: Town - good boy

Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him

Koba: Null - Sure

"R1: Town - good boy"
dont

R1: Town - Good girl

ok thats better in one way but not in the other way

R1: Scum - good girl

that is not the problem

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oh sorry ive been admiring ninja's book

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oh fucking course thats a pageget fuck me

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Why do you think I'm scum?

I also forgot

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Btw, I think the replace-out is pretty scum-indicative in this case.

isnt that angleshooting

is angleshooting allowed here?

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Jaiden vanishing rn is making me doubt her place in the townblock even more than her vote did lol

[omgus loading]

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you know
Im pretty sure I played here before
but I dont remember what my account was called
I dont think I even finished a game or anything
it was something to do with snoop dogg or some shit idk

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So you forget every read when asked to explain but still feel ok l1ing with the opposed wagon off wagon?

I know I scumread you, and i think it was for a valid reason so /shrug

I tend to do that when Im not used to sites, and have multiple times in the past
over time I'll start forgetting my role and shit until im semi competent
give me like 10 games

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Yeah ok well even if you scumread me you should unvote in this gamestate

give me a reason why youre town, a reason why the other wagon is scum, and what could make you scum in this scenario
the wagons are both at 3 after all

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I have a life

bad reply

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R1 sounds very innocent idk how to explain it but their tone is so pure i cant ever vote them here

im like this as scum too uwu

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your other reason is also BS given I had made 4 RVS posts at that point

ellitells are hit or miss but they aren't always miss

I like Luca's catchup, this is better to pursue: VOTE: Arthur

what do you like about it? he only commits to a townread on you 0.o

Excuse me but I intentionally helped get Hectic to L-1 in order to have a wagon to analyze. I believe it was Pikachu who said that wagon analysis is overrated (another reason I'm suspect of him, I could have easily lost my last game as scum if people just stared at the L-1 wagons long enough).

I didn't say wagon analysis is overrated; I said wagon analysis pre-flip is kinda pointless

~Moving onto other players. I still feel like Hectic is a townlean. The tunneling on Arthur could be a scum move.

?

Even though the bickering you two had seemed manufactured, Pikachu is doing that with everyone he scumreads.

doing what? bickering or having confidence in my reads?

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

can you identify which posts make you feel this way?

I come back and see 3 votes on Artur but still not Artur, I feel scammed.
Also, I'm moving Luca into a townlean here.

which posts specifically did you like?

R1 sounds very innocent idk how to explain it but their tone is so pure i cant ever vote them here

sure but they look like they're kinda making me lose interest in this game so

sure but they look like they're kinda making me lose interest in this game so

hooooooooooooooooooo boy

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kinda feel like r1 is playing in a deliberately anti-fun manner? this is newbie queue not "play in an intentionally annoying manner" queue

watch him try and push me for this
look kid, youve been pulling that shit the whole game
you cant just get upset as soon as you get annoyed

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so far into page 17: pikachu is like semi-flailing for some reason

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Town
Me
Arthur
72

Null (top is town-null,bottom is scumnull)
DK
Natsu

Scumreads
Luca
DP
Hectic

Naturally im sure the nullreads are town *for now*, but in a case I had to lynch between them id pick Natsu

Hmm, why did you specify who you'd lynch in your nullreads when you already clarified DK was town null and Natsu scum null?
Seems like an odd thing to focus on rather than your scumreads.

oh i added that after
and then just didnt remove that last part
because me smart

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i dont remember pog

i think round 1 is pretty much just playing scummy day 1 because they are numb to caring about day 1.....i have them as my number 2 town read.

no no i just do that sometimes
also I act scummy as town and scum
and TWTBW is a thing
so it all balances out
and I like always get TR'd while still being open to every single strategy without being scrutinized for using it
I can also try sometimes, I dont do that often

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Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)

Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that

72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

R1: Town - good boy

Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him

Koba: Null - Sure

"R1: Town - good boy"
dont

R1: Town - Good girl

ok thats better in one way but not in the other way

this furthered my town read on round one

this had nothing to do with the game whatsoever

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yup pikachu is scum case closed

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I have absolutely nothing to say about 72's readslist
im just astonished by it
just
wow

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ngl spy looks like a solid town to me

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if yall want ill link some sample games of mine if it helps uwu

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https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 7&t=105678
Google / Scum / Tracker

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 7&t=103574
Google / Town / Cop

and yeah I might as well throw in the only neutral game I ever played which I lived past day 1
dont mind how its like half a year old
https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=97999
Google / Neutral / Stalker
yes I did lose this game because I couldnt count

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I tend to go from chaotic evil to "actually kind of competent" in playstyle

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when did det make so many posts
like im guessing it was during all that bs yesterday but still
god damn

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Hey, Jaiden, mind asking Spy about that thing?

what thing

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remember how I asked detective some questions while he was around and he completely ignored me

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VOTE: R1

called it
I fucking called it

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*sigh* i'll ask again

why are you town
why is should the other wagon be lynched over you
and what could make you scum in this scenario

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I have a 100% accuracy with this btw

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why are you town
why is should the other wagon be lynched over you
and what could make you scum in this scenario

1 - play better and figure it out
2 - that wasn't what I was saying you should do
3 - play better and figure it out

I missed 0 questions that were worth answering

holy fuck take it seriously
people refusing to do it even if it means life or death is NAI so I dont get anything out of it come on

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I feel like his SR’s/votes on me and R1 are defensive rather than actually believing either of us are scum.

who said I scumread R1?

You’re voting them while having other slots which you supposedly SR.

If you don’t think they’re scum then why are you voting them?

cause hes blatant scum uwu

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If you don’t think they’re scum then why are you voting them?

she poisoned the well and pre-accused me of omgus while I was townreading her so I wanted to see how she would react to a push

I sensed an omgus coming because - well - you kinda foreshadowed it
and thats a lie lol

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Being new to the site does not give you justification in "forgetting" every single read when asked about them

do you want a list of games ive forgotten my role
there are multiple

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that catchup was
ew

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can i unvote so someone else votes and I can hammer
also completely assuming spy is just good!scum

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5 days left

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yall are reading too much into me

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howto v/la
help

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i might be able to do a catchup in the next few days, but i doubt it
expect pop ins
alot of pop ins

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hmm
pikachu trying to pull back from scum radar
yes

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is this game exist
how has it not ended yet

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2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3
I like good omgus and I like good memes
I just hammered, you wouldn't believe
bottom text

VOTE: NatsuVOTE:

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VOTE: Natsu
pog

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Dawwe we have a little not_mafia getting her first speedhammer

I'm so proud of you :3

you think this is my first
thonk

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Alright, so I've been putting this off for a while but I'm actually the

Town Friendly Neighbour

. I sent a message to my good ole friend, Round One last night, and she should be able to corroborate this claim.
So, it's important to note here that Natsu flipped

Mafia Roleblocker

, which would suggest we're in Column A:

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

HOWEVER, what confused me is that there is NO Town Friendly Neighbour in column A. It got me thinking, it means there must be some kind of

Role Changer

, or maybe a

Flip Manipulator

which turned Natsu into a Mafia Roleblocker. I'm unsure currently whether scum would possess such a role, or perhaps we have a third party faction in the game.

Either way, I'm glad Xtoxm's decided to spice the setup up; I was starting to think the boring old standard newbie layout needed some new life, and this definitely a step in the right direction!

Anyone got any information which would explain what's going on here?

hmm, yes
all those role changers and flip manipulators just lying around
yeahhhhhh
VOTE: Hectic

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Jaiden, ready to confess your sins?

THE TODDLER HAD IT COMING

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VOTE: Jaiden

There we go. Didn't actually expect that advanced scumhunting technique to work, but voting me for like that is questionable to say the least. I think I should stop messing around and claim my actual role, so without further ado: I claim

Town Vanilla Townie

. Last night, I forgot to submit my action because I was playing

Duck Hunt

. I know you might be dubious, but as long as there's no CCs, this should confirm me. No one else needs to out for now, I think.

I voted you because it looked like you genuinely thought that worked
less scumtell, more showing how good people think you are

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nya

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wait
the game ended?