Newbie 1984 - Game Over

[72offsuit]

Town at top
DK
DP
DJS
Hectic
R1, Natsu
Luca
AC
Scum at bot

DK - p41 where he dislikes DP's annoying gimmicks, agree with his read of AC's scummy p49

DP - genuinely feel like he is trying to game solve amongst the gimmicky fluff

DJS - Null tell, all round NAI posts pretty much. I don't see DJS's vote on the wagon as scummy, but rather mostly NAI, if anything towny. That vote would be an ultra ballsy/gambity move as scum. From the game i played with DJS, i just dont feel like that's a move he would make as scum

Hectic - finding it very hard to read him. Like him posting his reads of players, but simply disagree with some of the reads. Undecided at this stage.

R1 – p111 jumping on board the anti-pikachu sentiment
P114 – being hypocritical – essentially nitpicking about DPs nitpicking

Natsu - p95 I got a bad vibe off the post, rubbed me the wrong way, seemed a bit disingenuous

Luca - fluff galore, lurking, d\basically doing squat for an SE-rank player. Buddying up / brown-nosing players in p81 and p82

Arthur - p45 where he oddly dislikes reads - sitting on the fence and hedging your bets is scummy. Posting reads is pro-town, no matter how early. Scummy post.
- doesn;t really care about 5 other players, doesnt ask why for example i am green at the top of DPS RVS stage reads. Seems mainly interested about himself ---- scummy.
- p49: scummy post, see DK's analysis
- p61: No order to 5 players? All equal in rank? Just seems weird to me, that 5 players can all be on the same level of town-scum. Why post a town-scum scale if there is no scale? O.o

[72offsuit]

Choo choo, chugga chugga choo choo!

Anyone boarding the AC ArthurConyl express wagon?

VOTE: ArthurConyl

[72offsuit]

Also don;t like Luca's vote on DP without even ISOing other players and re-reading everything.

Agree with DP - we arent looking for you to have a 1v1 OMGUS stoush, but rather your reads on all the players

[72offsuit]

Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

oh that
I felt that was completely unnecessary and faking contribution

If you thought that AC post was scummy, then hop onto the shiny AC lynch train

[Luca Blight]

Why are you scumreading me, then?

0 solving

Based entirely on RVS posts, which is what I said before.

I'm pretty sure we have moved past RVS - my definition of RVS phase anyway. Players have stated FoSes and have switched votes.
There is now some, yes limited, but some material to go off now

You’ve missed the point - Pikachu is scumreading me for not solving during the RVS phase. Until my argument with him a few hours ago, I hadn’t posted since RVS.

[ROUND ONE]

Mostly for 28 tbh. I agree with most of the thoughts in 184, but maybe I'm being buddyed. He just hasn't done anything wrong so far. What don't you like?

thonk
so you did read that I completely forgot but still asked me why
interesting
its not ai in any way, but still

[ROUND ONE]

day 1s are almost categorically too long on this site

^^^^^^
the longest day length ive ever played before this was 120hrs
this is like double

[ROUND ONE]

I've loathed day 1s ever since boon fake claimed masons with my scumread (who was scum), second scum claimed gunsmith, third scum claimed doctor, and I was vig

like there's no way to effectively evaluate claims

scum are always dragged to l-1 and then wagon dissolves and people townread them because "blah blah wagon analysis"

imo game begins day 2 unless the player list is like extraordinarily easy to read

game always begins day 2
day 1 is the pl/vote analysis lynch imo

also town fakeclaiming masons with scum is the best part of mafia wdym

[ROUND ONE]

Cool, I'm not here to join any townblocks. I'm guessing that's some kind of town clique? Seems more like building your own tomb.

why are you asking to die

[ROUND ONE]

Since you seem like a reasonable player, would mind unvoting so mafia can't quickhammer?

Arthur, why are you concerned about mafia quickhammering here? Isn't it fine for me to die if you can lynch the mafia who hammered me the next day?

Ignoring the fact Pikachu may have quickhammered as town.

oh if I wasnt voted and it was L-1 I wouldve totally quickhammered for shits and giggles

[ROUND ONE]

Actually executing policy lynches on this site is tantamount to impossible

yeah it seems like everywhere is like that nowadays
but all you have to do is believe

[ROUND ONE]

Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

I’m above such things.

answered a bad question with a bad answer.
I can't tell if thats what you meant or youre just blatant scum at this point

[Hectic,Luca]
the detective is town because they are like almost never scum with hectic

[ROUND ONE]

Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

This is a baseless assertion.

correct

[ROUND ONE]

Conclusions so far (from town to scum):
==========
Everyone else (no order):
Natsu - would be more comfortable if you didn't put Hectic at L-2
DkKoba
72offsuit
ArthurConyl
ROUND ONE
Luca Blight (SE)

like, ok so the second part is literally just copy pasting the OP and taking out the three people he has reads on

if so, a) why start by saying it's town to scum
b) why copy paste the names you're not sorting
c) why keep your own name in the list?

that being said Luca still looks more like frozen scum to me than this, this is more baffling to me than objectively scummy

Frozen scum?

You seem to be rushing a read on me based entirely on RVS play, and it seems disingenuous tbh.

oh youre actually trying to not die now I see
this too is very true
noted

[ROUND ONE]

Mmmm mmmm it can be

I think scum are more likely to pick pointless fights thinking it will make them seem townie

false

[ROUND ONE]

Det v Luca is interesting, because both of them seem scummy
is it SvS? Could be, idk
more likely its TvS, but who is the town
I got no clue
You two, stop being scummy
kthx

[ROUND ONE]

This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.

You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.

So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?

I like my vote here for now.

VOTE: Pikachu

why do you vote now instead of when you first read him as scum earlier?

[ROUND ONE]

Hmm natsu, arthur, and luca all have cognitive load but only 2 are scum

Still ok with luca/arthur for the moment tho

false

[ROUND ONE]

Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

B

This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking

notice how his scumreads are the people hectic called out for absolutely no reason
interesting

[ROUND ONE]

block done
is anyone here to talk to or

also these day lengths god

Its a maximum not a requirement

yeah, majority is a thing I know
the issue is people tend to not want to hammer unless its further through the game or late game

No sense to rush, the more time spent discussing the better. Dangle that noose for scum to slip their neck through.

the longer the days, the harder town tends to lose wim

[ROUND ONE]

*yawn* dp is condescending as fuck god

Don't really like this post - after DK has voiced annoyance at DP's gimmicky posting
and AC has criticised DP's town-to-scum-scale based off his RVS reads
- drumming up anti-pikachu vibes rather than pointing out any scummyness

I didnt really have much to say at the time about him except that
and it had to be known to him
because reality check

[ROUND ONE]

Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

oh that
I felt that was completely unnecessary and faking contribution

If you thought that AC post was scummy, then hop onto the shiny AC lynch train

in the post, spoilered is the hectic post arthur was talking about

[ROUND ONE]

tl;dr - scum is within {dsjstr
Natsu
DkKoba
72offsuit
ArthurConyl
ROUND ONE
Hectic (SE)
Detective Pikachu (SE)
Luca Blight (SE)
}


Town
Me
Arthur
72

Null (top is town-null,bottom is scumnull)
DK
Natsu

Scumreads
Luca
DP
Hectic

Naturally im sure the nullreads are town *for now*, but in a case I had to lynch between them id pick Natsu

[ROUND ONE]

catchup done
ama

[Natsu]

Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

B

This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking

notice how his scumreads are the people hectic called out for absolutely no reason
interesting

The interplay between Hectic and Pikachu has been sending off alarms in my head. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it. I guess it's because all the SE's have played with each other before. Pikachu is really reaching in most of his scumreads, and seems to be crafting narratives out of nothing.

@72offsuit, honestly look at Pikachu's iso and tell me how on earth you see it as being a townread? He looks like a sharper version of my scum partner from last game.