Newbie 996 - Starting Small [Game Over]

[drmyshottyizsik]

So i first put first to post YAY!!
But Parama beat me to it
Any way

Vote:Moose

And I am an SE I am one game away from IC

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Well I'm proud Moose. I'll

unvote
and vote: Jim Finn

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Lynching Lurkers is very dumb!!!! Active lurking is scummy, but not being busy

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Ok a quick question for everyone
What is your biggest Scum tell?

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If you think I was honestly claiming to be scum, your sarcasm detector needs batteries.

Making a claim to be mafia, whether you are or not, is a very dumb move, no matter which stage of the game it is.

Well then don't hint at it, plus sarcasm is not easily detected over text.

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Has blackmist even spoke yet? where is he?

SickShotgun- what in the world is your avatar man? It's cool looking.

It's a tree thats a man, but still a tree... my friend drew it.

Oh and @ all- there usually is confusion on this, my name is Doctor My Shotgun Is Sick

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First, I know that's a lie SicShotster. I've seen that avatar at other forums, are you suggestion other people have "stole" your avatar?

And are you insinuating I cannot understand what dr my shotty iz sik stands for?

First of all, why can't I be friends with a famous artist
and second I guess you are smarter than the average person on MS

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Yes sir I do

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@ Moose, so I am at the top of your list because I smoke pot like five times a year?
If you vote me it will be straight up OMGUS

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unvote, vote: jimfinn

Moose is not active lurking. Get that through your brain.

He is very right about this, it seems like active lurking is one of the only ways you know to call, and get others to think someone is scum. Don't oush so hard, especially when you aren't right about what you are pushing, that sir is scummy.

So discussing things like personal life and whether certain other players may or may not be attractive based primarily on their nationality is not a form of active lurking? That's news to me. Either way, I'll unvote since Moose has finally posted content.

And as Moose so kindly drew to my attention, yes Dr.'s #28 does feel a bit like coaching or at least trying to appear "too town", so I'll VOTE: DocShot

About the first paragraph of the post. No it's not, we are slowly coming out of an RVS and getting to know the people you are playing with better builds a better game.
And about the second paragraph, I am an SE in a newby game sorry if I'm a bit coachy, but I have play quite a few games. Also what is wrong with being very town(BTW no one has ever voted me for that)? If I "appear"
too town then why emidietly jump to the conclusion that I am scum? How about you scum hunt yourself instead of jumping on other peoples ideas and piggy backing your way to a mislynch?
You have already shown me four big scum tells/slips man.
1. Misrepping someone and continueing to do it.
2. Wagoning with no reason other then agreeing with what some one else said.
3. Trying to push the he is too town thing.
4. Jumping on one person, but right as someone has a lukritive idea about something someone else is doing that is a bit fishy, jumping right onto them.

Unvote
Vote:Jim

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@Doc: Regarding my comments about you being too town, that is because you seemed to being trying too hard to appear town (e.g. saying things like "you don't want to jokingly claim scum")

I only said that because in a game I am in(I'll send you a link when it ends) I did that and I was town, but it ended VERY!!!!! badly.

~Quote tags fixed.

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Oh ya
Kooldude2294 on kongregate hit me up
my and Prox got to know each other that way, and haylen, just as long as you don't talk about an ongoing name on kongregate

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well I wasn't Mod killed for it so I think I'm good.
so Moose how do you feel about my post against Jim

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@Mist, the only prob;em I have with th noob card is that he says he plays face 2 face, and that really gives you more expirience then online

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#59
and Making ladies smile is great, but only if theyre pretty

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All women are pretty

I agree with the nooby card he has experience so throw that card out the window. Wait, did mist say he was a noob and defended him? HMmmmmm

I think your #59 post was correct with a tad of OMGUS throw in.

Thats far, and yes he did deffend him. I motion that the scum team may be Jim and Mist, do I have a second?

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Doc, actually it doesn't. This type of game style is very different. When you play f2f it's less about the words and more about the body language. That can be a scumtell in itself. And this is a NEWBIE game, so I doubt the experience with this type of game warnts towards much. Oh yes, I'm defending him. I'm stating my reasons for not voting on him. I'm still waiting for a few others to reply before I place vote. Please read my first and second post and I belive you'll see it.

I have played F2F, and yes body lanuage is a big tell, but if you think of words as body language you will be just fine, I still think you are, or may be the partner

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I want the IC to come here and explain why that post of yours just screamed "OMG I AM SCUM"

Ok I see how that would have been taken wrong, what I meant was, what ddoes everyone else think about fin and mist. That asking for info not scummy

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I like drmyshotty.

Why?

Not that i disagree

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Actually body language and words are very different. Body language is unvoluntary and is worse. Words are typically more well thought out, especailly when they are posted on a forum. I've been apart of forums for awhile to know that you should read a post before you post it in order to make sure it's exactly what you want to say.

I also would like to point out that Moose already made the point of me being a possible partner to Jim. There's your second. But I also recall Moose asking me what I thought of your post. Could this be a partnership? I think so. One attacks, than puts partner on the pestal and than partner attacks that person? Maybe.

Moose. What's an IC, going to see that you can't see for yourself? Also there's alot of back and forth between you and Doc against me. You're wagoning with him, with what reason? Not placing a vote on someone that hasn't posted much and claims newbie?

You see when I type, I do it stream of conchisnes, like faulkner(great author). I also suck at spelling, I post alot, and I say what I think as I think it, just like my body language

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Well good night all.

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I live in texas, but i'm in tennessee It's 11 I had a long day

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I just can't let you pull the noob card man, sorry

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WOAH! Where in tennessee are you man?

Lenor City

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Unvote
Vote: Mist

we can deal with jim tomorow

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Unvote
Vote Moose

WOW!!!! I just re read the thread un high, and damn I was dumb. MOOSE!!! DON'T BUDDY SO HARD!!!
Ok so I vote moose because of how hard he trys to be my friend.

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Oh and cause(and I know I did this too and I'm sorry) he called mist jims maybe scum partner, but didnt vote jim. I mean why call someone obv scum, but vote for someone else?

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Jim I still find you scummy, but Moose is just more so

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Hi guys sorry I was on a plane back to Texas, but it got detoured due to weather.
I gave my reasons for voting moose he was to friendly, and scum do that, and attach themselves to town people that they think may go down so there for they will be town by default. Or if he mislynched mist and mist was town, they would lynch him find out he was scum, then I would be lynched with out even a thought. And by this time mafia has 3 night kills and two mislynches, making it two on one vs. the begining when it was two on seven. And as you can see the odds of a Mafia win are a lot better. All the other Mafia guy has to do is sit back and float untill lylo then he just has to active lurk long enough for one of the town to vote the other town, and hammer for a quick win.

This is a very good and very common scum strategy, which is why I think Moose is scum, because he is all ready putting these actions into action. Plus as Doubt pointed out you can't be sure of not being Nk'd unless you are scum. Also he seems very confident, but it's almost a fake confidence. He even admitted that he was super scummy looking, yet he had only been FoS'd and I was his only vote, so that is why I think he is Scum.

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DMSIS, the question is: Why did your vote Black Mist to put her at L-2 on your 24th post and say "we can deal with jim tomorrow"

You had no reason, it seemed like an opportunistic vote to lynch Black Mist.

More and more likely seems the scumpair of DMSIS and moose200x, with DMSIS telling moose not to buddy so much and then voting moose, followed by a complete change of opinion in moose from thinking that DMSIS was town to scum.

I had no reason, that is why I unvoted. I fell for Moose's buddyness(you see I have no real friends). Then I also gave reason for my vote on Mosse. And answer me this. If you are scum and you buddy with someone, but they figure you out, what would you do other than then saying they are scum and trying to pass the buck?

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First of all, voting for no reason is suspicious.

"If you are scum and you buddy with someone, but they figure you out, what would you do other than then saying they are scum and trying to pass the buck?"

So are you saying that you are scum? It does seem like you are talking about yourself here... buddying with Moose...

No Moose buddied with me. I am saying Moose is scum

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EBWOP: Oops, hit the wrong button...

Next, about the vote on Moose, you gave no reason either... until I made a point, which you agreed to.

Preview:

The problem is, you buddied with Moose just as much as he did with you. And you bussed Moose just as much as he did you as well.

Trust me he buddied me, plus he even said he wanted to be my friend.

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I know he buddied you. Hence why I suspect him.

But you buddied him as well, that's the point.

Upgrade HoS to BoS: DMSIS, moose.

But he stopped the buddying? Think about it. I could have played along with Moose and mislynched mist. I think that is what scum would do instead of bussing a partner, and stopping a mislynch

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But he stopped the buddying? Think about it. I could have played along with Moose and mislynched mist. I think that is what scum would do instead of bussing a partner, and stopping a mislynch

^^^
WIFOM

You can't defend yourself with "what scum would do", you can only defend yourself with "what you did do".

Also, mist was never at L-1. The only votes casted on Mist were from you and moose... other than Cliquey's proxy vote.

You realized that there wasn't a viable lynch on mist, thus moose started buddying with you. At the same time, jimfinn posted analysis of you buddying moose, so you now vote him.

Scum had no wagon to push at any time... concerning anyone other than moose or DMSIS. So you can't really make that statement, even if it were true. It plain doesn't apply to context.

I guess that makes some sense, but on the other hand if you think about it this way I do make sense too. If Moose is scum and I'm not then all that had to happen was one more person to vote and a scum hammer. Also another reason I don't hate you for suspecting me is that one scum is almost deffinitly on that wagon, because if they weren't then the two rel scum would have hammered. But why is no one looking into Cliquey?

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EBWOP: As for Cliquey, not much can be said about her vs. this whole thing. She hasn't been making many attacking points, just pointing out flaws in points made by others (which is, yes, a very important thing as well). She seems content with the idea of voting DMSIS, and has found DMSIS suspicious. There's not many signs of bussing or buddying... I will ISO Cliquey's posts eventually, though, and you should as well.

Do you find her active lurky at all?

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Also I'd like to know why moose hasn't voted me

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Any ideas on my last post doubt?

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Ok so who do you find scummier?

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As I said, I find you and moose equally scummy. Right now, Moose more so than you because of him contradicting way too much,

So there you just contradicted yourself and be'd a hypocrite

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Oh well then that makes more sense

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I've just read the two pages of overnight exchange between doubtful and DMSIS with a few others' posts thrown in; I've said before and will say again that the previous buddying interactions between moose and DMSIS make me convinced that one or both of them are scum. DMSIS seems to be making an attempt right now to distance himself from the buddying, and moose's willingness to hammer after DMSIS posted (noted earlier) makes me wonder if he is scum trying to have an excuse to force a mislynch through. Therefore, I will currently UNVOTE: DMSIS VOTE: moose. Even though I think both are very suspicious, moose needs to do a lot more explaining right now than DMSIS does.

Ok, i am not going to flip out but your logic is so fucking fail. Look at it.


You think me or dmsis are both or at least once scum.

You think i'm scum cuz i'm going to hammer dmsis and force a mislynch.

How does that make sense? you were voting for him too! AND I FUCKING waited to hammer. You jumped on his bandwagon just like your jumping on mine. God, that is so scummy. But i dont even think your scum. which scares the crap outta me. you've done nothing as town in this game but you will slide under the radar, doing nothing special yet somehow be alive at the end of the game.

SIR THAT IS SCUMMY!! Why wouldn't you put a vote on me instead of quick hammering as soon as I'm L-1. Wait to hammer is a scum tell.
Yes that is how a player who is town, but bad at being town survives, but I don't get it.
Moose you used to think the scum was Jim and Mist, but you voted mist with no reason, then when reasons on Jim were stated you agreed with them, but said you wanted to deal with him tomorow. But then when I caught on to your buddy thing, you said that you wanted to hammer me. This is just plain

OMGUS!!!

. Seriously try to be less scummy if you can. But now I have a question for you
1. Why am I scum in your eyes?
2. Who do you think on my partner
3. Is your reason for not thinking Jim is scum all of a sudden because you OMGUS'd me?
4. Do you understand that your defense of Jim makes it seem like you guys may be partners?

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Moose - why are you still voting Black Mist if you think that DMSIS is more suspicious?

Because he wants to be the scum who hammers. He said so himself

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Spoiler: Mod

vote: DMSIS

Hey Cliqiey, Mr. IC how about you be a good little IC and give a reason

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I will lynch either jim or DMSIS today. Whichever one gets a bigger wagon, I don't care which. They're both scum, and blatantly obvious scumbuddies. I refuse to lynch anyone but these two, because these are our two scum.

And are you 100% sure of this?

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I think Jim and Moose are scum

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No, but why would scum want to seem related???????
Because then if one is caught so is the other, thats why they buddy with town.

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OK. Three people are voting DMSIS, jimfinn and I both think DMSIS is scum with moose, and smargaret posted

I don’t think he’s scummy enough to lynch today, given Moose and Cliquey.

So that's 6 people thinking DMSIS is scummy or slightly scummy. Majority.

UNVOTE, VOTE:DMSIS

Ok so if you think we are both scum, then why me?
Also 6 people think Moose is scummy, plus two know he is, that's 8 total, way more than my 6. Also 2 people also know that I am town

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Also 2 people also know that I am town

Who?

You're one of them, who's the other.

Oh sorry three. Me and the two real scumz

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I'm a vanilla towny, plain and simple.

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WTF Jim?!?
I really am VT. Great job at killing town before I got a chance to defend myself.
Ok well go town. Scum is either Jim, and Moose. Moose and doubt, or Jim and doubt. I promise

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No the easiest thing for a scum to fake is doctor, because scum know whether or not there is a doctor or not, and if they get counter claimed, they can make a case on that person being the mafia, and get a doctor and a towny for a mafia, and that is good for the mafia.

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EBWOP they get one doc and two townies, for a goon.

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No I would consider your hammer scummy, now you are trying to pass the buck, stop being so obv scum really. And people were starting to pull off of me and go after moose, but you and doubt disliked that and quick hammered.
Scum team is Jim and doubt

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maybe so you can make that arguement.
Tehehe jk I'm a mafia role blocker

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DOCTOR AND COP DON'T CLAIM!!!!!

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Just cause I was lynched doesn't mean I'm not still an SE in this game

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I think you guys are about to hate me, and no Moose, but I'll check it out... WHERE IS OUR MOD I NEED TO BLAH

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Why do you thnik I said that the Pr's shouldn't claim Moose? My first claim was the really one. Cop, or Cop and Doc need to stay hidden if they exist. I have no clue. Moose please go after doubt and Jim they are the scumz!!!

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I wish you did Moose, but I think you will most likely be Nk'd
@ Everyone else!!!!!- Doubt and Jim, iz the scumz

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Because you were bouncing back and fourth between me and Moose trying to push both bandwagons just waiting for one to get really big. Now I'm not sure how scummy I would have realized if Jim hadn't slipped so much by hammering, and doing exactly what you asked. Oh and plus you guys are very tied together in this game. Either you both are dumb scum, or mafia. But since Jim is for sure scum, then so are you.

DOUBT!!! OMG FU YOU ARE TERRIBLE, TALKING ABOUT NIGHT KILLS IS VERY!!! PRO-TOWN. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT IF MOOSE GETS NK'D THEN HE IS NO LONGER THERE TO VOICE HIS OPINIONS ABOUT WHO IS SCUM BASED ON THE NK, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. AND WHY ME= FRY ME IS A SCUM TELL. AND A DAMN GOOD ONE.[/END SUPER ANGRY RANT]

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^^^ I like this guy too.

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Very much so sir.

so where do you live?

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i love you too moose!

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hope i dont get black listed... i just want moose to know my really feelings