Remind me -In post 1751, StealthyNoodle wrote:Alisae, you doc? I want that perfect town win.
Why are you so convinced that nancy is scum?
Remind me -In post 1751, StealthyNoodle wrote:Alisae, you doc? I want that perfect town win.
If doc claims, Nancy is pretty much confirmed scum, that's why.In post 1753, Alisae wrote:t perfect town win.
Okay.
Why would you EVER say this outloud? I'm not going to give you an answer, but what makes you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask this outloud. If a BP exist, a doc shouldn't be possible.
PLOT TWISTIn post 1769, Alisae wrote:hmmmm...In post 1768, nancy wrote:Because I'm conf!town as long as I continue to be claimed BP so I don't know how you could possibly have any question about the color of my role PM.
Alright. I claim Doctor BUT
I do NOT want a flashwagon on nancy.
nuuuuIn post 1763, Alisae wrote:HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAN REPLACE OUT YOU KNOW IF YOU HATE ME THAT MUCHIn post 1760, StealthyNoodle wrote:Ugh, this is why I wish we had kept Loopdan.In post 1753, Alisae wrote:Okay.In post 1751, StealthyNoodle wrote:Alisae, you doc? I want that perfect town win.
Why would you EVER say this outloud? I'm not going to give you an answer, but what makes you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask this outloud. If a BP exist, a doc shouldn't be possible.
You have quite a lot of explaining to do -_-In post 1774, nancy wrote:/me retracts BP claim
That's meIn post 1843, Alisae wrote:Dude!
I looked at Srceen's ISO, I saw scum, and I am currently pushing that.
Plus I have like,
the worst reading comprehension on MS.
When was the first?In post 2169, StealthyNoodle wrote:Hmm, this is the second time you've avoided to respond to my post.In post 2142, WhyMafia wrote:Ok caught up completely. I'm completely disturbed by Srceen. He has literally sheeped town leaders
THE WHOLE GAME
????
VOTE: SrceenPlay
Nancy changed her vote, and Alisae voted him, so that makes it L-1
I'm fine with a lynch on me if it means we win. Go ahead.
VOTE: WhyMafia
Because I agree with it. It's a fact. He didn't log on ..In post 2129, StealthyNoodle wrote:@WhyMafia, I think my townreads on you are pretty fine, but you've been doing a lot of shady stuff as well.
Care to explain why your post is so similar to Chronicle's?In post 1659, StealthyNoodle wrote:I like this observation as well. Here's some further investigation.In post 1637, BlackVoid wrote:What's notable here is when he was accused of defending Pine, he jumps to say that he was defended another slot as well.
Well my apologies for the "copying"In post 2219, StealthyNoodle wrote:What bothers me the most, is that it seems like you try to make it your own post.In post 2216, WhyMafia wrote:Because I agree with it. It's a fact. He didn't log on ..
You ask why we're discussing hisIn post 176, WhyMafia wrote:Why are we debating his alignmentalignment. Chronicle used this word right before you and you haven't used it ever since. The fact that you ask, means you didn't even read through the discussion. But you had the time to copy Chronicle.
Why would you mention this again, when Chronicle just mentioned it? (in almost exact wording while we're at it)In post 176, WhyMafia wrote:he hasn't logged on since the game started.
Why not just state that you agree with Chronicle?
Again,In post 176, WhyMafia wrote:This iswasting time to find scum, unless we're using this to gauge reactions.Chronicle's words.
tl;dr
It doesn't look like you're interested in defending bjc.
It looks like you're trying act town by assisting his defense, and do so byposing someone else's research as your own.
[Throw] MasterBall [/Throw]
Sheesh why do you want me dead so badlyIn post 2346, Srceenplay wrote:It's funny this game is called escape room
Lynch WhyMafia so we all can go home
Contradictions, full of, that sentence isIn post 2364, TesXX wrote:That banana isn't an actually banana but yes it is a banana.In post 2345, nancy wrote:It's not mechanically autowin but yes it is autowin.
Yes ma'amIn post 2366, MiniDeathStar wrote:NewbieGame#1784
Reminder
Rule 13 - No off-topic posting.
Avoid cluttering the game thread. An occasional sentence or two is fine, but remember you're here to play mafia.
Whenever I have 50-50 odds, it never works in my favor, let alone guessing your entire reads list.In post 2426, nancy wrote:WhyMafia you're supposed to guess my readslist >:[
Because that was one post while 99% of your reads were parrotedIn post 2425, TesXX wrote:@WM do you have any explanation for this contradiction?In post 2422, TesXX wrote:But you voted me for stating opinions that had already been said.In post 2216, WhyMafia wrote:Because I agree with it. It's a fact. He didn't log on ..In post 2129, StealthyNoodle wrote:@WhyMafia, I think my townreads on you are pretty fine, but you've been doing a lot of shady stuff as well.
Care to explain why your post is so similar to Chronicle's?In post 1659, StealthyNoodle wrote:I like this observation as well. Here's some further investigation.In post 1637, BlackVoid wrote:What's notable here is when he was accused of defending Pine, he jumps to say that he was defended another slot as well.
What's more to be said?In post 1159, WhyMafia wrote:btwIn post 1151, TesXX wrote:{Chronicle} I still need to read more through this one's iso, I'll make an updated version of this list when I do.
{Loop} null I guess, I've been having trouble trying to get a read on him. I will include any opinions I've changed in the update. Somebody may have asked this but @Loop how come you wanted a Pine lynch in 662?
{Srceen} nullscum. I dislike the change if thought process from 841 to 900.
{StealthyNoodle} also nullscum. I'm not completely done looking through his slot, I haven't liked some of his cases against nancy and I don't like how he tried to pull the same thing as WhyMafia did in 701
{WhyMafia} scumlean. I'm not a fan of the "I'm fine with getting lynched therefore I am town" thing that he pulled and I disagree with his reasoning of why scum wouldn't do it. Unsure of why he had a switch in attitude toward Chronicle, unless I missed something.
{Drixx} also scumlean. Yeah, I looked back at Pine's wallpost(I may take another look at it eventually) and his wallpost did seem like he was actuallytryingto townread nancy, possibly because she'd be the easiest to not have to put effort into making fake reads for(since he could probably pull the meta crap). There's also what BV said in 951 about a possible Drixx + WM team which I agree with if WM were to flip red.
is this the best you can do?
It seems like you put hardly any effort into those reads. Literally everything you said is parroting what other's have said. I fail to see how thinking of these reasons were hard, considering everyone already posted these reasonings. VOTE: TesXX
That's not really reassuring :-:In post 2432, nancy wrote:That's irrelevant. Just have a try so the next person can go. You're not going to be lynched if you guess wrong.
I just gave random names. I cannot even begin to fathom Nancy's reads. My apologiesIn post 2457, StealthyNoodle wrote:How would his answer sayanythingabout anyone at all?
Questions like why doyouthinkIbelieve thatWhyMafiareads scum, isn't gonna get you anywhere near a read.
You're practically forcing him to go through nancy's collection of weird reads, try to make some kinda sense out of them, and then explain why he thinks that some readsmaybemade more sense than others.
Of course, most likely he's just wild guessing, like I would do if I felt obligated to answer some weird question like that.
Lynch srceenIn post 2491, nancy wrote:I am not moving my vote ever.
What's tessology?
Thanks for your kind words good sirIn post 2447, StealthyNoodle wrote:
Srceenplay - wicked arguments, brute force and no mercy.
Whymafia - politeness, smooth talk and AtE.
Those are currently my candidates. WhyMafia the most.
We're fairly close to it. Plus I kinda lost motivation for this game, I made way too many mistakes and Idk how to rectify them at this point in the game.In post 2756, StealthyNoodle wrote:It's the exact opposite? He's been acting like this several times now. "Lynch me, I don't care". If he was town, he'd likely realize we're not in autowin, and not "give up" that easily.
Thanks for kind words though, WhyMafia.
I supposeIn post 2764, BlackVoid wrote:I'd really like it if you are town for you to go over all other players in the game and consider alternatives.
If I was scum I would have forfeited. All I am saying is that my extremely bad play d1 kinda turned me offIn post 2761, Srceenplay wrote:Scum claimIn post 2757, WhyMafia wrote:We're fairly close to it. Plus I kinda lost motivation for this game, I made way too many mistakes and Idk how to rectify them at this point in the game.In post 2756, StealthyNoodle wrote:It's the exact opposite? He's been acting like this several times now. "Lynch me, I don't care". If he was town, he'd likely realize we're not in autowin, and not "give up" that easily.
Thanks for kind words though, WhyMafia.
Yes but I don't trust myself. Most of what you guys say is well developed, analytical, and makes sense to me. I'm trying to find stuff that none of you have seen, but most of the major posts that I have opinions on would literally be parroting one of the other players. I'm just frustrated .. sorry for my semi-inactivityIn post 2782, nancy wrote:But if you're Town then you lose nothing by continuing to try and play and improve and help Town. The only way this makes sense is if you are scum and want to avoid doing things to incriminate yourself. Your play was not extremely bad Day 1. In fact it was not bad at all unless you are scum.In post 2766, WhyMafia wrote:If I was scum I would have forfeited. All I am saying is that my extremely bad play d1 kinda turned me off
Can you explain "anti-town?"In post 2726, nancy wrote:Noodle
- all scumhunting outside Pine seems to be exaggerating NAI shit as scum!indicative
- prewritten post at daystart
- total lack of cooperation and belligerence all game
- plastic read on Chronicle
- hard defended WM Day 1 then flipped his read on him (see first point)
May be forgetting stuff? That is off the top of my head.
WhyMafia
- response to being wagoned has been largely anti-town
- pushed CWs when Drixx was being lynched
Srceenplay
- scumhunting has felt totally vacant
- has basically sheeped all game
- hasn't followed through on contributing today
- survivalism / opportunism hasn't done any favors
- votes Pine early Day 1 as first interaction, does nothing with vote, doesn't interact with Pine further except asking blandly for a readslist
Ari
- Chronicle's Pine associatives are gross
- lurking??
Aslan
- lots of stuff I don't think we need to talk about this further atm
From start of d2?
Ah ok. Thanks for clarifyingIn post 2808, nancy wrote:Yeah, I get that. I'm sorry you feel frustrated. It can still be helpful to see which points you agree with though. Even if you think Void and I have already said everything, you surely don't agree with all of it completely? Saying which stuff you agree with and which stuff you don't agree with helps us sort you and also potentially helps us see any flaws in our work. Teamwork is great. Don't be shy!In post 2798, WhyMafia wrote:Yes but I don't trust myself. Most of what you guys say is well developed, analytical, and makes sense to me. I'm trying to find stuff that none of you have seen, but most of the major posts that I have opinions on would literally be parroting one of the other players. I'm just frustrated .. sorry for my semi-inactivity
Well, you have pro-scum, pro-town, and anti-town. Pro-scum is behavior that furthers scum win-con, pro-town behavior is stuff that directly furthers Town win-con, anti-town is behavior that doesn't directly further Town win-con. Saying "lynch me" is anti-town because you getting mislynched does nothing to directly benefit Town win-con, you should be doing everything you can to fight your lynch because you are confirmed as Town to yourself whereas no one else is (except Void and I in this game). Anti-town behavior is typically selfish behavior. Pro-town behavior is typically making yourself obvtown via working with others to scumhunt and gamesolve. So the difference is mostly that anti-town focuses on you individually ("I'm sick of this game, lynch me"), pro-town focuses on the Town win-con overall ("You're not lynching scum, here is why and here is where I think the scum are"). (Brackets are responses to being wagoned, the way you were Day 1 where you let off a bunch of anti-town AtE.)In post 2799, WhyMafia wrote:Can you explain "anti-town?"
IM AT L-1In post 2811, TesXX wrote:Is he at L-1?In post 2810, nancy wrote:Awesome, looking forward to it! I'll make sure no one hammers.In post 2807, WhyMafia wrote:Ok expect a mega post from me this weekend. I have a lot of projects for school + finals, so hopefully I'll have time to make it. Don't hammer till then
CALM?? Who needs to be CALM DURING A SUGAR HIGH WHEEEEEEEEEEEIn post 2813, nancy wrote:No one is at L-1. Be calm.
Valid points. Noodle sure doesn't know what to think of Nancy xdIn post 1385, StealthyNoodle wrote:*subtle victory dance*
Good morning then!
Well, if the doc is still out there, now would be the time to counterclaim:
There obviously won't be no fake-claims though.
Pretty sure, nancy is not scum though:
footnote: I did enjoy that postmortem(pun not intended), last-gasp attempt to make the bus look real. Concidering it came arondafterhammer went down, it pretty much cleared me more than it hurt me.
---
tl;dr
a doc-claim now would pretty much guarantee our win.
Like wtf is srceenplay doing
How do we know tracker wont die tonight?In post 1398, nancy wrote:In case you're wondering why it's autowin btw, we have two Tracker clears by Day 3 plus, thanks to anti-busTM we know that Noodle and Tes have 0.00001% chance of being scum, meaning that the only slots left with any chance of being scum today are {Chronicle, Loopdan, Srceenplay, WhyMafia}. Even if we were to mislynch today, Town goes into Day 3 with 3 conf!towns and a scumpool of 2. So yes, autowin. But it's just WM so it doesn't really matter.
Why?In post 1414, Srceenplay wrote:I seriously doubt there was a no kill
I said this before, but town wouldn't say thisIn post 1434, Srceenplay wrote:Let's not over think this. Whymafia is the vote. No reason at all for it not to be.
Maybe they thought there was a doc and Nancy was fake claimingIn post 1437, StealthyNoodle wrote:Possibilities here:
Since doc haven't claimed(guaranteed win, soplease claim if you are), it's not nancy.
Also it's most likely a shot at BP, or a nokill as Chron mentioned. If it's a nokill from Chron, that would return nothing for Tracker (right?). Why in the world would scum not attempt to kill tracker. Anyone else being killed would suggest scum!nancy, but as long as doc doesn't claim, she's out of the question.
Err what? You mean BlackVoid?In post 2971, TesXX wrote:nancy tracked him, dimwit.
Agree with this.In post 1563, BlackVoid wrote:Here's the thing about the Pine/Drixx wagon: there was no counterwagon. I'd assume if Pine/Drixx's partner didn't want them to be lynched, they'd be co-ordinating in order to push a counterwagon. But the rest of the votes are just scattered around with no push for a viable counterwagon. I think it is unlikely that they'd just sit back and allow Drixx to be lynched. I'd expect either a bus or a push to save him. That's why I'm not as confident as nancy that we have this game wrapped up. But that could just be my cynicism and tendency to not crack open the champagne until the mod announces that we win because I'd hate to lose a game that we have a huge lead in. I don't think it's just my paranoia as Drixx basically allowed himself to be lynched which points to someone non-obvious being his partner. I'll re-read D1 again and post my thoughts on Pine's interactions with all six unconfirmed slots and I'd love to see everyone gamesolve as well. If you are a newbie and you are town, know that re-reading is important.
How is that optimal play? We would most likely lose tracker tonightIn post 1568, nancy wrote:I mean I realize that optimal play here is to No Lynch but I want to go for glory.
How is that optimal? Sorry if that seems stupid :/In post 1624, nancy wrote:No Lynch is optimal when you're playing follow the Tracker, as long as the BP is alive.
This makes sense imoIn post 1628, BlackVoid wrote:I have a hard time following this. I'm looking at the alternative scenario: that you are scum with Drixx, and when you saw me and nancy consider lynching Chronicle, you saw an opportunity to save Drixx and "went through" Chronicle's ISO so you could justify a vote there. That world looks more likely than the explanations you are giving.
;-;In post 3330, nancy wrote:compromise lynch on WhyMafia.
true :/In post 3331, Alisae wrote:First you can have some reading because reading is nice!In post 3329, TesXX wrote:Yeah each game I do shows me ways I can improve my town play. Also how I can improve my trolling play.
viewtopic.php?p=9065879#p9065879 - mhsmith's inexperienced challenger (IC) post.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y:MastinMD - A bunch of articles that are really just worth reading in general. By Mastina
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=70951 - A guide to Vote Count Analysis (VCA) By Mastina
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71050 - Charisma in Mafia
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71056 - The Importance of Transparency, Cooperation & Effort as Town
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15933 - Article about Tells by Mastina
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15932 - Article about Playing Well by Mastina
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16540 - Another VCA Article by Mastina
One of the things that recently changed with sitemeta is, well, it's a fairly negative change. A lot of towns nowadays don't work together. They have these egos and they rather focus on being correct then actually work together and do actual teamplay. So trying to work with your fellow town, trying to see what reads you can bounce back and forth with them, pushing reads together, all of that stuff is important to working together with your town.
Aww :/In post 3332, nancy wrote:Am not fit for it emotionally. Playing Town is an extremely lonely experience and it affects my emotions hugely to be deceived and gaslit so for my mental health I cannot play.In post 3329, TesXX wrote:How come?(You may have been asked this before so my bad if I'm making you repeat yourself)