Newbie 1795 | Summer | Endgame

[Fykus]

I'm tempted to L-1 you but I suppose I shouldn't, just in case scum decide to pull a fast one.

VOTE: Jax Teller

Because I hated jax by the end of that show.

[Fykus]

p.s are we gonna do the bp or not bp schtick?

[Fykus]

You seem a lot more cluey than your newbie title lets on. Im assuming youre some kind of alt?

[Fykus]

How many games have you had on ms. Also cero dont worry this is just random voting stage you dont need to look too deep

[Fykus]

Speaking of experience, Fykus, you're an SE so you should be quite aware that quickhammering would basically be a scumclaim.

I see a poor attempt to obtain towncred.

VOTE: Fykus

I have completed 0 games on MS.

This is a serious point though and I would like a response, rather than this just being RVS. If you truly believed that scum might quickhammer me then why didn't you put me on L-1? Trading a town for a scum is extremely worthwhile.

I didn't want to risk a newbie accidentally hammering you. Plus the fact the day has only just started I didn't want it to end prematurely. Whats with your obsession of being put to L-1? Would you claim at L-1 during RVS?

Also I don't think I believe the 0 completed games claim you've got, mainly because you seem to know the intricacies of the BP claim strategy - such as waiting until later in the day to start discussing it rather than straight away. Are you expecting me to believe that you joined the site a few weeks ago and have just consumed and took in all this information about the ways of the site?

[Fykus]

What reason would I as scum say I didn't want to put you at L-1 if I thought I could get an easy lynch from a newbie playing around with the RVS? I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree here personally.

p.s are you a kid or a squid?

[Fykus]

Alright put a tally next to my name on scumminess. Now explain how youre so knowledgable on the bp claim strategy

[Fykus]

Got a link? Also are you a kid or a squid?

[Fykus]

Dont ever be afraid to ask questions. Its the only way youll learn

[Fykus]

Whats with everyone trying to tell cero where he should be placing his vote in rvs?

[Fykus]

I think zito won. Im gonna make a case on jj later

[Fykus]

There's someone who understands that being third is not an accomplishment. Very good.

A wagon would be nice. I don't mind it being on me.

Straight off the bat he asks for a wagon on himself.

Proceeds to vote self.

Quickhammering someone like that would be a scumclaim. Feel free to put me on L-1.

Calls me out on mentioning I didn't want him to get quick hammered, proceeds to tell me to put him on L-1.

Oh and hell no I wouldn't claim at L-1 during RVS. Being put to L-1 is not something I want, however your reasoning for not bringing me there is flaky and does not hold up to scrutiny.

I ask if he'd claim at L-1, this is his response. Proceeds to say he doesn't want to be put at L-1.

Ok so my case is this:
Why would he want to a wagon on himself at the very beginning of the game if he has no intentions of claiming if/when it happens? In my mind, it seems that he wanted to get himself put to L-1, laugh it off by saying we're only in RVS and then use the fact that he'd already been put at L-1 earlier in the day later in the day if the looking glass ever went in his direction. Like "whats the point in wagoning me? I've already been at L-1 today and it ended up falling apart!". It seems like a way to get himself immunity from the spotlight for today atleast.

Yeah you can pick apart this argument by asking me why I mentioned that I didn't want to put him at L-1 so he couldn't get quick lynched by scum so that I could get easy town cred but that wasn't my intention at all. The game had just started and it was my first post. It's pretty obligatory to participate in RVS so I made my comment - to be honest I didn't actually consider the fact that a quick lynch by someone would be a scum claim or that in that situation it would be a 1-1 trade which would benefit town. My mind was more thinking over the fact that someone could lynch him right at the beginning of the day and we'd have nothing to look over in the later stages of the game.

Oh well, whats done is done, the moment has passed re: him being put at L-1 and what not.
Thats my case on jj for now, and its the best I've got until we get some more thought out posts to sift through and try to discern scum.

VOTE: jjh

Zito what are your thoughts on fykus?

Fykus is an obvious alt, so I'm curious to see what he'll do.

No, I'm an original creation - just like Ricky Rouse and Monald Muck.

[Fykus]

Hey zito, if/when should we commence the bp/not bp schtick?

[Fykus]

Hey zito, if/when should we commence the bp/not bp schtick?

I actually don't know what this is. Explain?

RC come up with a strategy whereby everyone claims whether or not they're BP. If they are then we have ourselves a confirmed town and we move on with our lives. If nobody claims BP, then we all claim tracker/not tracker - since if there is a tracker but no BP then we have a doctor who can heal said tracker every night until they themselves are killed. It supposedly brings up with win rate of town in these setups. There's currently discussion on how to change matrix 6 so that this cant happen anymore.

Anywho, we'll give it 2 IRL days like jj has suggested before I start pushing for it again.

[Fykus]

ay yo jj, how many scum do you reckon are on my wagon?

[Fykus]

I kind of like Fykus' case on me tbh, but only because I think it was built to see how I react. I don't see it as a case rooted in real opinions. He's a scumlean but I'll let you guys push him because I need to work on placing other people more. I've only really got scumreads rn.

PEdit: Oh, I agree with Zito there.

Na there was no ulterior reason for the case on you, honestly it was the only "potential" scuminess from anyone I could see in the thread at the time. I guess nobody agreed with it though because nobody bothered to talk about it or follow.

Your wagon right now is Tchill and Kawl, right? I haven't placed Tchill properly but he's a townlean, and Kawl is null. I mean, it's a 2 person wagon. 0-1 scum, leaning 0.

Why haven't you made more of an effort to push me and follow up on your case?

In retrospect it was a pretty weak case (without having more stuff to add to it, so maybe itll come back into play later on). Anywho, I think I've got a gut read for now, so I'm going to be looking for some evidence to back it up, so I wont be needing this:

UNVOTE: jjh

[Fykus]

Also I feel that Ceros post was pretty genuine so I'm chucking him into my town pile for now.

[Fykus]

what're your thoughts on tchill

[Fykus]

See I was feeling like when fykus said he had a gut feeling it'd be me. Maybe it's not. I was just going off the fact that you pointed out his L-1 comment. Then he made a case against you. I pointed out his L-1 comment... And I'm really interested to see who fykus pushes next.

Should I be pushing you?

[Fykus]

Alright, the game has stalled, its been a couple of days. Its time to claim BP or NOT BP.

Explanation for why it works here: viewtopic.php?p=8857811#p8857811

Failure to adhere to stating whether or not you're BP will result in a policy vote from me (and hopefully others) since it is basically a scum claim.

From here on out, your first post should be BP or NOT BP. Once everyone has claimed we can move on with our lives (depending on whether or not there is a BP or NOT BP we made need to do a tracker or not tracker).

I am NOT BP.

[Fykus]

VOTE: kawl

[Fykus]

I am the one shot bulletproof

is this a real claim or are you just shitposting?

[Fykus]

Well atleast we've netted 2 potential scums from this already.

[Fykus]

Ones possibly a fake claim and the other refuses to participate in a pro-town strategy "because they want to scum hunt"

[Fykus]

I'm waiting for NM to confirm/deny whether or not they're shitposting before I continue.

[Fykus]

Well in the meantime you could post you're case that you said you were making. It's fine if you'd like to wait but I would like to see it eventually. Since you mentioned it.

if it turns out to be shitposting then i dont want to muddy up the thread and make it harder to get the strategy over and done with.

[Fykus]

I didn't sign up to play here to play the mathematically best strategy. I want to play here to work on my scum hunting.

I agree with this tbh. I don't like gamebreaking strategies. Not that it matters, as NM claimed BP.

its hardly gamebreaking. it only bumps up the win % of games a couple percent.

[Fykus]

I reckon we should probs wait to see if he's shitposting before anyone else confirms/unconfirms.

Also, NM, why claim now? I thought we'd been saying that we'd not do it for a while, if we did.

Vote is staying on til NM replies.

why would you want to keep voting a claimed BP?

cause it could be that NM is just shitposting, or possibly fake claiming. we wont know until they come back and post.

[Fykus]

VOTE: NM

[Fykus]

A bp for scum is a good trade. If nm flips town and not a pr hes an idiot.

[Fykus]

I think what happened here is that nm is a goon trying to bait a pr claim for the rb and night kill. Provided tchill isnt the doctor then their gambit has failed

[Fykus]

Can you just hammer him please. Hes just trying to bait out the other pr by making them back up tchills claim.

A bp for scum = win. Trading a possible dr or cop for a bp = lose

[Fykus]

Nm youre trying to bait one out

[Fykus]

gg guys