Newbie 1795 | Summer | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 1.04

jjh927

(1): Not_Mafia

cinderella

(1): Cero68

Cero68

(1): Papa Zito

Tchill13

(1): Fykus

Fykus

(1): Tchill13

Papa Zito

(1): jjh927

Not Voting

(3): cinderella, Cece, Yourenotmydad

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-21 13:30:00)

[jjh927]

I'd quite like to see Fykus case me tbh. I personally prefer to place people with 1V1s.

[Tchill13]

Cece I think the only reason Zito voted cero is because that's an easy person to throw a vote on at the moment. I don't think he has too much reason to. Which it's still early in day 1 it's pretty easy to throw a vote on anyone without having much reason still.

[Papa Zito]

Zito what are your thoughts on fykus?

Fykus is an obvious alt, so I'm curious to see what he'll do.


@Town: If I could make a suggestion, a better use of your time would be to watch my interactions with Cero68 and judge both my questions and his responses instead of guessing at intent before it all plays out. You'll get a lot more information that way.



P.S. The Cero/Cece thing is gonna kill me.

[Tchill13]

Zito I do believe I see where you're coming from. Although I don't completely disagree with jj. Fykus didn't you state you thought Zito "won"?

VOTE: cero68

Hopefully I did it right this time.

[Cero68]

Hey Guys,

(*Out of Game* I'm going to be a bit busy the next couple of days so I'm posting right not to not get prodded as being inactive. That being said I will try to post on Thursday so if anything is directed towards me I will respond back then. I wanted to make sure to give you guys warning. )

On that note I'll do this for the moment:
UNVOTE: cinderella

Reason: This person might not even be playing and it would be weird if I kept a vote on them. Not voting on anyone else yet until Thursday when I have more time to read the post and come to my own conclusions.

Thanks everyone,

[Papa Zito]

:/

[Fykus]

There's someone who understands that being third is not an accomplishment. Very good.

A wagon would be nice. I don't mind it being on me.

Straight off the bat he asks for a wagon on himself.

Proceeds to vote self.

Quickhammering someone like that would be a scumclaim. Feel free to put me on L-1.

Calls me out on mentioning I didn't want him to get quick hammered, proceeds to tell me to put him on L-1.

Oh and hell no I wouldn't claim at L-1 during RVS. Being put to L-1 is not something I want, however your reasoning for not bringing me there is flaky and does not hold up to scrutiny.

I ask if he'd claim at L-1, this is his response. Proceeds to say he doesn't want to be put at L-1.

Ok so my case is this:
Why would he want to a wagon on himself at the very beginning of the game if he has no intentions of claiming if/when it happens? In my mind, it seems that he wanted to get himself put to L-1, laugh it off by saying we're only in RVS and then use the fact that he'd already been put at L-1 earlier in the day later in the day if the looking glass ever went in his direction. Like "whats the point in wagoning me? I've already been at L-1 today and it ended up falling apart!". It seems like a way to get himself immunity from the spotlight for today atleast.

Yeah you can pick apart this argument by asking me why I mentioned that I didn't want to put him at L-1 so he couldn't get quick lynched by scum so that I could get easy town cred but that wasn't my intention at all. The game had just started and it was my first post. It's pretty obligatory to participate in RVS so I made my comment - to be honest I didn't actually consider the fact that a quick lynch by someone would be a scum claim or that in that situation it would be a 1-1 trade which would benefit town. My mind was more thinking over the fact that someone could lynch him right at the beginning of the day and we'd have nothing to look over in the later stages of the game.

Oh well, whats done is done, the moment has passed re: him being put at L-1 and what not.
Thats my case on jj for now, and its the best I've got until we get some more thought out posts to sift through and try to discern scum.

VOTE: jjh

Zito what are your thoughts on fykus?

Fykus is an obvious alt, so I'm curious to see what he'll do.

No, I'm an original creation - just like Ricky Rouse and Monald Muck.

[Not_Mafia]

Not sure if Cero's posting is scum or newbie weirdness

[Papa Zito]

Reason: This person might not even be playing and it would be weird if I kept a vote on them. Not voting on anyone else yet until Thursday when I have more time to read the post and come to my own conclusions.

So your reason here is correct, which is why I've been questioning you about that vote. There's no point voting someone who hasn't shown up and potentially never will.

That said I still don't understand why you didn't join jj instead of just flat unvoting. If you're attempting to pressure lurkers into posting why not help him with someone who has checked in vs leaving your vote completely off?

[jjh927]

Fykus-

Wagons are good for analysis, even early ones.

There are 3 people who know my alignment, however 2 of them want me to die.

From my perspective, a wagon on me is one that was on someone I know to be town and can be analysed as such.

[Tchill13]

Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about cero's last post. Not mafia what do you think about fykus's claim against jj? Zito seems to only be focusing on cero at the moment.

[Papa Zito]

Zito seems to only be focusing on cero at the moment.

FTR I'm reading everything, but I find it much more useful to let other people's convos play out than to bully my way into them.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: not_mafia

He seems to be posting a little but not making any kind of effort to find scum.

[Fykus]

Hey zito, if/when should we commence the bp/not bp schtick?

[Tchill13]

Why is the BP strategy such a big deal on this site?

[Papa Zito]

Hey zito, if/when should we commence the bp/not bp schtick?

I actually don't know what this is. Explain?

[jjh927]

Oh shit, in that case let's kick it off in 2-3 IRL days?

[Tchill13]

Thanks for the explanation guys lol.

[jjh927]

If we get too hung up on it now then less scumhunting will occur.

[Fykus]

Hey zito, if/when should we commence the bp/not bp schtick?

I actually don't know what this is. Explain?

RC come up with a strategy whereby everyone claims whether or not they're BP. If they are then we have ourselves a confirmed town and we move on with our lives. If nobody claims BP, then we all claim tracker/not tracker - since if there is a tracker but no BP then we have a doctor who can heal said tracker every night until they themselves are killed. It supposedly brings up with win rate of town in these setups. There's currently discussion on how to change matrix 6 so that this cant happen anymore.

Anywho, we'll give it 2 IRL days like jj has suggested before I start pushing for it again.

[PenguinPower]

Yourenotmydad and cinderella have failed to respond to their prod and are being replaced. If they return before a replacement is found, they may continue.

[PenguinPower]

Arnold Schwarzenegger replaces Yourenotmydad

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

Hiya!

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

jj is a town lean for me. Seems to be actively trying to sort people and the fact that he pressured the IC immediately looks good to me. I don't think his case is very good though.

Fykus also leans town to me. He made a case on jj, who was probably the most vocal player out here. I think the wagon argument is a stretch, but I don't think scum would be ballsy enough to try and push that argument.

Everyone else is shades of null so far.