A bit quick don't you think? Passiveness is a sign of observance and casual or cautious play, while it could lead to suspicion it can manage to keep one relatively safe at certain times, acting too quickly might draw attention. I question how or if this is/isnt concerning. Of course, it could all be for shits and giggles.
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A bit quick don't you think? Passiveness is a sign of observance and casual or cautious play, while it could lead to suspicion it can manage to keep one relatively safe at certain times, acting too quickly might draw attention. I question how or if this is/isnt concerning. Of course, it could all be for shits and giggles.-
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Yes. I suppose I am used to something more conservative and less random or "silly". All in goodness I suppose. Though, I am a sucker for analysis. How are you doing today/night?-
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I played on a site called PersonalityCafe mostly, did a handful of iffy IRL games as well as two shoddy skype games, Have a total of about 20 games under my belt-
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In post 10, Aquanim wrote:
Doing fine. It's afternoon here at the moment.
Which brings up another point, for everyone's attention.(Obviously) I live in an Australian timezone and will frequently be asleep when American and European players are around. This is more of an issue in a blitz than in a usual game, so keep it in mind if you wish to talk with me. I recommend http://xkcd.com/1335/ for keeping track.
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In post 18, Soren wrote:
Kakashi not so sharp at Mafia is he.In post 5, TheLhix wrote:
A bit quick don't you think? Passiveness is a sign of observance and casual or cautious play, while it could lead to suspicion it can manage to keep one relatively safe at certain times, acting too quickly might draw attention. I question how or if this is/isnt concerning. Of course, it could all be for shits and giggles.
VOTE: TheLhix
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In post 38, pisskop wrote:Nah, that doesnt seem completely unusual for this forum on this site.
Can really comment too much onthat, but Id wager that all use forumites are used to taking our sweet time with 2week games.
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In post 46, farside22 wrote:Hey all!
I was bored so you all get me today.
Vote: thelhix
Yakko why are you joining the RVS bw instead of votive thelhix?
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In post 52, farside22 wrote:In post 49, TheLhix wrote:In post 46, farside22 wrote:Hey all!
I was bored so you all get me today.
Vote: thelhix
Yakko why are you joining the RVS bw instead of votive thelhix?
I just brought out the refreshments. Do you have a read as to why I am shady?
Going from serious to silly in 1.0 seconds.
Let's just say that your play reads fake.
You asked about the vote from the start and say there are other ways you play but all I see is silliness which doesn't really capture reads from anyone
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In post 56, farside22 wrote:In post 54, TheLhix wrote:In post 52, farside22 wrote:In post 49, TheLhix wrote:In post 46, farside22 wrote:Hey all!
I was bored so you all get me today.
Vote: thelhix
Yakko why are you joining the RVS bw instead of votive thelhix?
I just brought out the refreshments. Do you have a read as to why I am shady?
Going from serious to silly in 1.0 seconds.
Let's just say that your play reads fake.
You asked about the vote from the start and say there are other ways you play but all I see is silliness which doesn't really capture reads from anyone
But, did I not give a logical explanation for it? As well, I was also told that plays such as this "sillyness" were common on this site. Essentially leading one to believe they are being uptight. So couldnt you say I am just adjusting to the room?
You know about silliness but not rvs?
On PersonalityCafe Silliness was considered to be more loose typically amongst the players on that forum. Everyone seemed to have a more conservative nature as i addressed. Random Votes were potentially a sign up jumping the gun or perhaps putting yourself out quickly, Which is what I commented on (and made no apparent accusation except the comment) and thus had a conversation on the environment of the forum (of which I am still new too) My statement was more of a question concerning the rvs than a read.-
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In post 69, itlepip wrote:In post 67, hi im Yakko wrote:In post 62, itlepip wrote:In post 58, farside22 wrote:Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now
You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.
You sound disgusted? Maybe I'm reading that wrong. Any particular reason you pointed it out but made zero attempts to figure out why I was sheeping? I like my vote more now.
i was still in RVS, that was just a comment supposed to be taken lightly. It wasn't meant to be personnel.
Also how would I be able this early in the game to give an explanation of your sheeping, most likely it was just a joking RVS sheep, but if my vote was serious than an RVS vote is bad. You could be scum trying a sheeping strategy early but there isn't much evidence for that. There also could be some scum thing I did early that you guys are reacting to, but I have absolutely no idea what it is.
Not that this is a huge correlation, but didn't you perform the same criticism to my "normal-abnormal" patterns. And classify it as suspicious? Wouldn't this just be the same scrutiny you gave me in accordance, in which you are desperately defending. Not that this is a bad thing, but it seems to be very circular.-
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In post 74, Soren wrote:Kakashi just looks bad with his "sillyness" act and should stop and play normally.
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In post 79, Soren wrote:
His 54In post 76, hi im Yakko wrote:'Act'? What made you think it is an act?
He said that plays of sillyness were common on this site and it seems he's following it.
Wrong. I said that from the site of come from there is a conservative nature to the play, and that after the initial conversation I had regarding the first RV and it seeming overly unpassive, that I was playing too conservatively as a result to those conversations. Spin correctly-
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In post 85, Soren wrote:
Sure.In post 83, TheLhix wrote:In post 79, Soren wrote:
His 54In post 76, hi im Yakko wrote:'Act'? What made you think it is an act?
He said that plays of sillyness were common on this site and it seems he's following it.
Wrong. I said that from the site of come from there is a conservative nature to the play, and that after the initial conversation I had regarding the first RV and it seeming overly unpassive, that I was playing too conservatively as a result to those conversations. Spin correctly
Hmm. I have been driven into a impassive state, but so have you. You seem to be acting aggressively because of this fact in search of reasoning against others, specifically myself as well. You have felt some heat, which could mean this is a defensive strategy, but it could also be a form of getting to business on weeding out the scum. You are aptly suspicious. I would give you a town read given the detective work, but remain wary given the potential defense strategy at play. Do you have any other reads?-
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In post 89, hi im Yakko wrote:@lhix Detective work? Lol que? Its barely like 3 pages in. That was a very weird way of calling someone null.
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In post 92, hi im Yakko wrote:In post 91, TheLhix wrote:In post 89, hi im Yakko wrote:@lhix Detective work? Lol que? Its barely like 3 pages in. That was a very weird way of calling someone null.
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In post 103, hi im Yakko wrote:Gonna step away for awhile.
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In post 107, pisskop wrote:In post 25, itlepip wrote:In post 24, LoHa wrote:Pip, why are you voting a non-cc-ed kop?
didn't pisskop cc?
I am the original Kop.
In post 39, TheLhix wrote:In post 38, pisskop wrote:Nah, that doesnt seem completely unusual for this forum on this site.
Can really comment too much onthat, but Id wager that all use forumites are used to taking our sweet time with 2week games.
Should I pass out the refreshments?
I brought the pisscup, so why not.
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In post 112, hi im Yakko wrote:pissed af. This sub human lhix is tilting me so hard (not the reason why I'm pissed). And soren said I was fucking around. What a goddamn joke. Soren must have read through the game it isn't that long. My town motivation behind posts directed at I forgot his name the person I shamelessly switched to should come across clear as a bell. I have been nothing but open about your criticism of my play. It might have been bad play but I stand by it. It is one of the reasons we're out of rvs. I look bad? soren stop fucking around and get better reads. I'm town as fuck.
You answered all of my questions but what are your reads. Surely you have something after that moment of being piss af.
The questions:
1. Where do you think you stand
2. What are your reads
3. What is your purpose behind your style/play
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In post 145, Aquanim wrote:In post 144, TheLhix wrote:*continues to look into the distance waiting for a direct answer from yakko*
In the meantime, do you have an opinion on this interaction between Nosferatu and itlepip? Or itlepip in general?
I honestly think its too subjective and gut-based to say anything for sure. As I have been looking at the text its just a very small clash on what seems to be minuscule pressure. I think I am going to bide my time before casting a vote, though the pressure of itlepip has lasted longer than a lot of engagement already, I question if it will dissipate or not. My read is null atm-
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In post 148, Nosferatu wrote:In post 142, itlepip wrote:In post 141, Nosferatu wrote:In post 140, hi im Yakko wrote:Nice face. Are you going anywhere with that (exchange with itlepip) Nosferatu?
I was probably going to vote him because he lied about why he read farside as town. But I wanted him to say it~
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Also going back to that thing, based on the stats, the majority of d1 lynches are marginally better than a random lynch. So this whole 'your read is crap because it is gut, if everyone else only had gut reads scum would always win' is complete horse since nearly all early reads are crap.
VOTE: Nosferatu
my god you savage, can you comprehend human language? I literally said nothing about the quality of your read. I honestly have no idea what you're prattling on about, but for god's sake, how hard is it to answer a god damned question?
not sure if you're stupid town not paying attention or stupid scum avoiding an incriminating answer tbh
Hate to be an ass, but isnt either or a hindrance on the winning side? Given that it is first day and little normally comes from its lynch 9/10 (beneficial), wouldn't this read be a clear indication of either cleaning up clutter or taking down scum? Otherwise, it may still be null. What are your thoughts?-
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In post 154, pignash wrote:Scummy self vote there itlepip. What's the vote count?
Just read through the whole thread and was going to vote for TheLhix because of the interaction with yaako. Want to see an official vc first though.
Could you share why? and what are your other reads? Yakko neglected all of my questions, even though they had logical basis in weeding out scum.-
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In post 156, pignash wrote:Townreading Yaako, Mala, Farside and Soren.
Speaking of
UNVOTE:
I just think you're overly defensive and quick to point out that your questions are scumhunting at every opportunity so that we remember that you're scumhunting.
Then tell me. What other purpose do my questions serve and how are they illogical or impertinent to the status of the game? As well, self preservation is an option due to me being drawn out from a impassive stance early on, as I've become accustomed to the environment I've begun performing practical analysis over hiding in the shadow. Now tell me this: what are your reads? As well, why so few and far between in the posts. (Not reading nor attacking) I see you as a potential calculative null but your stance around Yakko intrigues me.-
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In post 160, pignash wrote:She posted that she hadn't read the thread. She unvoted without really needing to. She does not seem to be overly concerned with appearing town, which is a good sign for me normally.
It's going to be exhausting talking to you, Lhix. Less 3 dollar words, more coherent thoughts.
OK. I'll work with you. Bluntly: I fucked my way out of a passive observing position because of confusion of Mafia scum play style early on. Now I'm actively analyzing while maintaining self preservation by logic and attempts to be open at the meanings behind all action. (Nothing wasted) My questions are an attempt to be productive and bring logic to the table as a whole.
Questions I asked you; what are all your reads
What do you feel about the engagements as a whole and tone of the thread
Why gave you been seemingly so passive and "inactive"
I also noted that none of this was aggressive.
Extra question: do you find the voting patterns and sheeping around yakko interesting? I still hold a null value on them, but the small bit of anger, unanswered questions and sheeping left me wary.-
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In post 173, Soren wrote:
I've noticed that you have asked reads from several players. What are your own reads?In post 153, TheLhix wrote:*Stares as itlepip bursts into flames*
For general public: All reads? Anyone want to throw them into the hat for general analysis. Shouldn't hinder to see into eachothers guts and minds a bit, if we are honest and truly hunting for scum.
As I've stated numerous times, I am remaining a null stance on just about anyone for as long as possible so I 1. Can keep all options and pressure open 2. Dont make an ass of myself 3. Have more time to observe and question
I am wary of You, Yokka, Pip.
You: Because of your pressuring play style (Which I am least wary of, as I have spoken about how it can lead to multiple things.)
Yokka: Because of them backing out of questions, showing aggression at the result and early game sheeping.
Pip: He is most likely not to be null, as I have said, he is either as scummy as scum can openly be. Or, he is a hindering town like has been pointed out. If i had to vote now and instantly, it would be the easiest choice.-
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In post 182, Aquanim wrote:@TheLhix: Can I interest you in a vote for Nosferatu based on the points in #178?
Possibly. I have to go for a few hours, so I don't want to make a play like that then be gone. I see the point as for the same reason I originally was wary of Soren, but it would seem it might be a bit heavier this time. I will think over it and come back later. Seem fair?-
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Before I go for class: I am halting on voting because that is a big play to make for someone leaving for several hours. I chose pip only because I was following Nos logic and was extra wary of pip. I still am given he could be drawing a lot of attention to himself and detracting. Yokka has continued my wary of minor levels as he has continued playing the same song. Nos is overly aggressive. I'll vote when im back-
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In post 216, Soren wrote:What happened to remaining passive neutral or whatever it is you called it.
1. Blatant evidence
2. Discussed how I would vote earlier
3. You asked for my reads and my vote and I relinquished them both with logical assessment to match.
My question. Why so aggressive if all my plays have meaning, and better yet, I've not only maintained my spoken agenda and appealed to the populace wishing me to make a choice past observing. I also addressed that due to the evidence, I would vote prematurely to when I said I would. Any issue?-
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In post 222, Nosferatu wrote:In post 202, Aquanim wrote:
He self-voted and I had no idea what the fuck that meant. If he had continued with the same behaviour I would have voted him, but he just up and quit. Trying to think about the town motivation behind self-voting, have to make sure he's not VI obviously, but I really can't think of anything. It just perturbs me and I don't feel comfortable voting him with that over me.
Why didn't you vote before he self-voted? In particular at #141. "I wanted him to admit he was lying to me" seems like an odd condition - what kind of scum admits they're lying to you?
uhh yeah, that's the thing, they don't. And whaddya know, pip didn't admit he lied. I N F E R.
TheLhix wrote:Before I go for class: I am halting on voting because that is a big play to make for someone leaving for several hours. I chose pip only because I was following Nos logic and was extra wary of pip. I still am given he could be drawing a lot of attention to himself and detracting. Yokka has continued my wary of minor levels as he has continued playing the same song. Nos is overly aggressive. I'll vote when im back
Overly aggressive is scummy?
TheLhix wrote:Reading from class. Loha is either scum that is baiting or is being needlessly disruptive. I'll cast my vote to this despite being away.
Vote: LoHa
nvm, guess you'll just ignore your previous intent of voting me for the sake of joining the bandwagon.
I said I'd think you over
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In post 227, Nosferatu wrote:you literally said "I'll vote when im back".
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In post 294, Titus wrote:In post 290, Aquanim wrote:In post 289, hi im Yakko wrote:
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Eh that sounds well reasoned bullshit. I mean I get what you're saying but why would scum titus bring attention to themselves creating a half assed counter wagon? Nah nah I'm thinking titus is town.
If itlepip is scum, or if itlepip is town but there were scum on his wagon already, what would you expect a scum-Titus to do in that situation?
Bear in mind that (IIRC) there were no other wagons of any description active at the time.
Scum Titus would take control of the thread. :-p
You have not played with scum Titus.
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In post 315, Aquanim wrote:In post 314, TheLhix wrote:
Because I am super scum
This isn't the time for jokes any more. Do you have a reason to think I am scum?
Truth be told. When you asked me to sheep you against nos, and then the Yokka-Aqua scenario played out where he instantly countered didn't sit right with me. I figured it was trying to bait my own votes out according to your wish regardless, and the way Yokka and you keep going round and round after each pressuring encounter you pull seems very systematic.-
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In post 318, Aquanim wrote:In post 316, itlepip wrote:
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Not being worried about a 2-vote wagon doesn't mean you don't clarify reads on that wagon. Also the only difference is the titus read, and I meant that as the general consensus of the generally non-sus players, which would include yakko.
You're replying to it now, but why didn't you reply to it at the time?
At first my vote was in fact a impulse, I felt something was wrong with what had occurred earlier but wanted to bide my time to formulate a logical response until I gathered my emotion response together.-
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In post 324, Aquanim wrote:In post 320, TheLhix wrote:In post 318, Aquanim wrote:In post 316, itlepip wrote:
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Not being worried about a 2-vote wagon doesn't mean you don't clarify reads on that wagon. Also the only difference is the titus read, and I meant that as the general consensus of the generally non-sus players, which would include yakko.
You're replying to it now, but why didn't you reply to it at the time?
At first my vote was in fact a impulse, I felt something was wrong with what had occurred earlier but wanted to bide my time to formulate a logical response until I gathered my emotion response together.
...This wasn't a question to you, actually.
I am aware. ^_^_^-
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In post 373, Soren wrote:
ITP Kakashi asks for someone's reads a billionth time this dayIn post 346, TheLhix wrote:Aqua, what are your reads on everyone
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In post 377, hi im Yakko wrote:UNVOTE:
I thought I had unvoted. Lhix super lost. Oh nvm. Defensive as fuck. Lhix you make off hand comments all the time, but can't take them? Damn man what a joke. Can we lynch lhix?
I'll wait for the titus-far affair to come to a head and vote lhix for a juicy counterwagon.
I still haven't made up my mind on whether far is town. Hey pisskop is farside town?
I'm such a innocent player. I am town as fuck. Fuck yall. I am so pissed. First this subhuman Yakko tilts my ass to high hell, then I have Soren busting my balls for no reason after defending myself. I am super fucking town. Lynch me bitches.-
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In post 381, pignash wrote:In post 380, TheLhix wrote:In post 377, hi im Yakko wrote:UNVOTE:
I thought I had unvoted. Lhix super lost. Oh nvm. Defensive as fuck. Lhix you make off hand comments all the time, but can't take them? Damn man what a joke. Can we lynch lhix?
I'll wait for the titus-far affair to come to a head and vote lhix for a juicy counterwagon.
I still haven't made up my mind on whether far is town. Hey pisskop is farside town?
I'm such a innocent player. I am town as fuck. Fuck yall. I am so pissed. First this subhuman Yakko tilts my ass to high hell, then I have Soren busting my balls for no reason after defending myself. I am super fucking town. Lynch me bitches.
Are you a hydra? This doesn't even seem like the same person...
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In post 386, Soren wrote:Screaming that you're town isn't going to make us town read you
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In post 432, farside22 wrote:In post 431, TheLhix wrote:What is the reasoning behind getting rid of titus? They seem to be searching with scum with invigoration and their arguments (while thin at times) don't fail to make sense totally.
Because she is scum.
You think calling one player scum based on one post is seriously scum hunting?
No, but I dont think its enough to define someone as scum. If we were doing it based on that we'd have half the game on the menu from the near start. I am not defending that she isnt scum, I am just defending that we dont have enough to waste a lynch on yet. Besides Titus what do you think would be the best option?-
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In post 465, Aquanim wrote:In the meantime, everyone should explain their votes for LoHa. There's one vote based on LoHa misremembering who said something (Soren), one vote based on an argument that's already been shot down in flames (Titus), one blatant self-preservation vote (itlepip), and three with no explanation at all (TheLhix, Pisskop, Yakko). Whichever of you are townies should be ashamed of yourselves.
I believe I already stated that my original vote was because of an agreement with Titus. Now, it is a mixture of believing that outburts of LoHa as well as suffering from apparent Alzheimer's makes a decent case. Also, I feel that these make decent excuses for the wagon against him and will not detract from it.-
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In post 476, hi im Yakko wrote:I doubt he is gonna say anything if he is scum.
He is backed into a corner strategically speaking. If he fails to impress we have little reason not to continue, if he doesnt speak then he is hiding.-
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In post 479, pisskop wrote:Or, if he gave genuine reads we could consider another option.
Very true.
My second vote is honestly undecided right now. If i had to chose a second I would think of a PL on pip, but even that is very weak.
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