Dance of the Title Fairy: Accepting Applications
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anyway sorry for distracting from this interesting nomIn post 3776, Cheetory6 wrote:Nominate N forPlease Don't.
Meaning kind of extends beyond just the catchphrase and maybe semi-captures some aspect of N's general sense of humour?
Someone might be able to think of something better. I think N should be someone easy to brainstorm stuff for.
Inb4 Please DoN't.
will remove that other title when im on a computerYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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It’s got at least one implied counternom, even one of the nths has all but allowed that the title is bad in 3828, and I don’t know enough about Alisae to assess it myself. So I’m gonnarequire two more nthsfor the Alisae non before I do the work of looking at it closely.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Am not “fucking the system”, but rather trying to do my job. You have to understand, this is somebody who has already had a title until a few days ago. I went with the flow and gave Alisae the title because so many people earnestly supported it and I was afraid of receiving lowkey temper tantrumy posts like yours here in response. And the thing turned out to be so sucky it couldn’t even last six months without that consensus breaking down. Six month titles areIn post 3846, Ginngie wrote:and I dont get why you're fucking the system because you "don't feel like" looking into it.nothow this system is supposed to work and represent a failure on my part as well as on the community’s part to do its job to only give titles of lasting meaning and worth.
What I got from all that and even from the talk about the current nom is that there are so many people in this thread who throw out nths for iffy titles because of the person getting nominated for them, or because they don’t really care much about the system, or just because they have bad taste (would say that these are the people “fucking the system”) that just putting my own skepticism aside when a title does gets a lot of nths is bound to result in a lot of titles that I can’t readily defend even a few months down the line.
I’m *still* not handling these issues as dramatically as older title fairies, who’ve repeatedly completely stonewalled title noms they didn’t personally support. I’m just asking for more evidence that the title is not going to be deservedly abandoned by March ‘18 or something. If it’s so perfect, then getting a couple more nths shouldn’t be so hard. I mean, it seems like it already has. In sum, can you, like, cool it?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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I’m never gonna entertain the argument that because these other titles aren’t great, this one shouldn’t have to be either. All it can ever result in is more mediocre titles. If you think the community is not consistently holding every title to a high standard, speak up when bad titles start getting pushed through. Antinoms do a lot.In post 3848, Alisaes French Maid wrote:
I think its a good title.In post 3844, Psyche wrote:It’s got at least one implied counternom, even one of the nths has all but allowed that the title is bad in 3828, and I don’t know enough about Alisae to assess it myself. So I’m gonnarequire two more nthsfor the Alisae non before I do the work of looking at it closely.
I also believe it is comparatively better then a good chunk of the current titles that got nominated in this thread.
Like so many shit titles go through and then we randomly don't allow good titles for not being super perfect and unique.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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You’ll understand once it’s ready, I think.In post 3847, Ginngie wrote:I also dont get why you want to make a bot for this title fairy thing
It's like you dont actually like being the fairy my dudeYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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We technically shouldn’t clog up this thread with talk about the bot. I’ll explain my current plans in the ideas thread. It’s not a matter of work-aversion (making bots takes work); I think it’ll ultimately be more detailed and more disciplined/reliable with administrative and other title-related work thananyconceivable scummer on this site could be (rather than just me). Once it’s ready, I can finally start running this subforum the way I’ve always wanted to.
Anyway, I’mcounting panzer’s recent posts as a counternomtoo, so theAlisae title needs one more nthbefore I fold under public pressure.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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3 counter nths, and your nth is questionableIn post 3886, Alisaes French Maid wrote:
????????????In post 3881, Psyche wrote:Okay, at this point the Alisae thing is decidedly controversial, so I’m putting it inlimbo for a month. Feel free to bring it up again on January 17, though ideally you can come up with something with more reliable appeal even before that.
It has 9nths and 2 counter nths.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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i was gonna make the poll myself eventually but maybe it would be better to delegate that particular thingIn post 3906, Kublai Khan wrote:
Has anyone ever done a poll of favorite titles? Since the topic of "what makes a good title" is under constant debate, it might help if we had a good concrete examples of titling done right.In post 3854, Alisae wrote:Panzer what are your favorite titles?
is n_m the right man for the job though?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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i don't think colorful formatting in general is particular tough to stomach, at least in mafsilver
it's right there adjacent to the generally colorful avatar, after all
but in this particular case, the rainbow on black highlight thing seems like an eyesore in and of itselfYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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nahIn post 4055, Annadog40 wrote:Though if a user becomes inactive for a long time, can the title also be given to another who embodies the title?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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oh boy i missed that titleIn post 4099, SleepyKrew wrote:bro will get shade brigade back right?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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lickety does!In post 4109, Alisae wrote:
no oneIn post 4107, LicketyQuickety wrote:Plus it has nothing to do with Mafia at all.
actually cares about this nowadays btw.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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yah but enforcing groupthink is badIn post 4112, Vijarada wrote:Of the titles given out in this thread, only wisdom's, mhsmith's, singer's and fferyllt's are related to mafia (4/12). in the last thread i think it was even less.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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sry, i suppose the topic we're talking about is sort of ambiguous let me explain
the motion with 7 nths involves removing bro's current title and giving it to wraith; all i've been saying lately is that i see nothing wrong in principle with any part of that motion and will implement it if the relevant parties consent
i've only lately suggested that maybe a different but similarly themed title would be better for wraith; it's so far resulted in no actual noms and is atm only more loosely tied with the status of bro's titleYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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yes but is it also badIn post 4509, Kublai Khan wrote:
It's dumb.In post 4494, Psyche wrote:48 hours to collect more feedback on dootYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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In post 4558, Psyche wrote:what is vonflare besides a forced meme? what else is he on this site?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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The justification is more than that it's forced and people are forcing it; it's that vonflare's essence here on MS is the sort of forcing that "doot" embodies. If the community likes the kind of thing vonflare does, then it's not bad behavior.
I feel like these criticisms could be better if I explained why I'm taking the nomination seriously. If someone came forward today with the best title imaginable for vonflare, in which ways would it be different from "doot"? Because to me it seems to check all of the main boxes of a title. It 1) references an interesting incident, playstyle or characteristic of the user, and 2) makes the reference in an interesting way that's 3) accessible/appreciable to the broader community. It's easy to explain doot, it's clear why the title fits vonflare in particular, and the way it fits vonflare is at the same time not totally unsubtle. Besides the fact that I honestly don't like vonflare's schtick much at all, it seems perfect for him otherwise, assuming that all the people nthing him for it have a more positive attitude about his schtick.
So, I'm leaning toward approving it. This doesn't mean that I'm opening the door to more titles like this (it would make vonflare's title less...individual), but rather that I'm accepting that vonflare fits the niche that the title identifies him for. I've got zero expectation that he'll change the way he is after getting this title, so the idea that he shouldn't get it because it's the design of some fleeting campaign just kind of falls flat, especially since such a campaign is exactly among the sorts of things motivating the nomination.
No one seems to contest that it fits him. They contest that the stuff about him that makes the title fit should be rewarded with a title. I have to decide whose opinions to weight more. And if they're balanced, shouldn't I also weight how well the title plainly matches him?
At the same time, though, I also understand the value of not approving plainly controversial titles. It just seems like a cop-out to take that stance, though, especially with my awareness of many controversial noms ultimately getting approved by past title fairies. So, I'm still thinking. And I'll allow plenty of time to react to these thoughts here.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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