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Insert a complaint about 17 pages popping up while I sleep here.
Mathdino wanted me to tell mulch and firebringer to shut the fuck up or get tunneled for the rest of the game. He says team mafia is supposed to be town sided because so many people are able to scum hunt but a spam fest stops some people from doing so.
I'll get caught up before I go to bed tonight. Haven't read a thing yet.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Starting to read. Won't finish this sitting
First good post of the game.In post 86, Spiffeh wrote:I think Team Mafia needs stricter participation requirements
I don't even have a guess.firebringer wrote: Kmd I am ignoring for the reasons he knows of
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Ugh. Page 5 gives me town reads on mulch, firebringer, and tor. I wanted to vote mulch on policy but won't if I'm townreading him.
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Transcend, you said on page 6 you'd vote Chara. Do you disagree with to who said Chara would never choose to be scum? Also why is mulch scum?
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We just played together in Boon's game. I was on my Egg account. My gut was originally telling me you are scum again but I think if your team rolled scum here, boon or tchill would have taken it before you.unabomb wrote: Patrick, Kagami, Kmd4390 and Cheetory6 are strangers to me and haven't spoken yet.
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It's better when everyone can enjoy it, not just you and mulch. This post is from me, not Mathdino.In post 480, Firebringer wrote:
You can tell him to fuck offIn post 467, Kmd4390 wrote:Insert a complaint about 17 pages popping up while I sleep here.
Mathdino wanted me to tell mulch and firebringer to shut the fuck up or get tunneled for the rest of the game. He says team mafia is supposed to be town sided because so many people are able to scum hunt but a spam fest stops some people from doing so.
I'll get caught up before I go to bed tonight. Haven't read a thing yet.
Mafia is first and foremost a game meant to be enjoyed.
Fuck of with that attitude
And if you want to tunnel me for spamming
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Dude I was like positive you already knew that.
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Ugh. Stop being scummy if you are town. He was obviously playing along with mulch's Mason fakeclaim.In post 238, UnaBombaH wrote:He said he has a scum-Discord with mulch. OBVIOUSLY.
I think you should try to keep up with my scumhunting Trans..
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Cheet, I don't disagree with anything in your unabomb case. But would he really get a scum slot over boon and tchill? Or is it possible they got three?
Really? Because I see two actual reads if you count "might be town" and a bunch of stuff that amounts to "I really have no idea lol". I can't figure out why you're so quick to townreading unabomb here. Can you help me out with that? Also, why aren't you obvtown yet?transcend wrote: Hey uh Cheet not to be that guy But he has offered his reads and i Like where his head is at.
unabomb wrote: I think it is clear to anyone who has seen me play, that I was given a townslot in a game like this.
Like, I understand the possibility of WIFOM and all that, but my team wouldn't trust me with anything significant when potentially playing against people who "know me" - like you, RC or mulch.
And then we have all the fantastic scumhunters who just know I'm a nubscrub who is always drenched in paranoia and bad gutreads so..
No scumroles for me!
Oh boy.unabomb wrote: It's because I'm bad at town -> I get scumread, I'm OK as scum -> I get townread.
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Ugh. Transcend, your reads are so far off from mine.
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Noted.In post 518, Mulch wrote:
No, because he voted me for a horrible reason that he knows better not to do- and same with Eddie. And has been tunneling me when he knows I blow up when tunneled as town. And has been reaffirming his scumread with a shit case and "reaction test" and has been pedantic and nitpicky.In post 516, Kmd4390 wrote:Because he voted you?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Guys I'm confused. Mathdino disagrees with like all of my reads and I expected us to be on the same page coming in to this. He says my issues with unabomb can be chalked up to language issues with English (which I actually didn't know) and thinks mulch is scum. I really wanted to vote unabomb but I really don't know. Maybe mulch is ok on a commination of policy and hoping that people who have played with him know him better than I do.
Also I just read page 15 and have nothing new to add.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Figured most people had. You have a few votes. Transcend said 80% of his team scum reads you. Now Mathdino. If they all haven't played with you, I stand corrected.In post 575, Mulch wrote:
Mathdino has never played with me and everyone that's played with me before sans Transcend is not scumreading me (Una, Gingie, Toranaga) me so I'm very confused at this and I think it's slightly scummyIn post 570, Kmd4390 wrote:Guys I'm confused. Mathdino disagrees with like all of my reads and I expected us to be on the same page coming in to this. He says my issues with unabomb can be chalked up to language issues with English (which I actually didn't know) and thinks mulch is scum. I really wanted to vote unabomb but I really don't know. Maybe mulch is ok on a commination of policy and hoping that people who have played with him know him better than I do.
Also I just read page 15 and have nothing new to add.
but it's possible it could be a miscommunication *shrug*KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Was waiting for an answer from him. He says he likes a Lynch on you to improve gamestate, thinks your pushes feel more political than like scum hunting, and agrees with trascend's reaction test and trusts Transcend to read you. Obviously, he's also townreading transcend.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Oh, this. Yeah I mentioned it because I trust mathdinos scumhunting ability and it makes me question which of us is completely off here. It made me hesitant to vote where I want to. What else would I do? Because the other options are say "fuck my team, this is my game" or go against my own reads and not tell you why. Neither sounds very productive now does it?In post 574, Spiffeh wrote:
This is very "look at me trying to think critically about the game and consulting my teammates about it"In post 570, Kmd4390 wrote:Guys I'm confused. Mathdino disagrees with like all of my reads and I expected us to be on the same page coming in to this. He says my issues with unabomb can be chalked up to language issues with English (which I actually didn't know) and thinks mulch is scum. I really wanted to vote unabomb but I really don't know. Maybe mulch is ok on a commination of policy and hoping that people who have played with him know him better than I do.
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It wasn't really a show. It was just a quick few paragraphs about where I'm at. And we have discussed it some in the PT. Why is it "showing off how critically I'm thinking" rather than actually critically thinking?In post 587, Spiffeh wrote:@KMD I'm not bothered by teammates wanting to contribute and having specific things to say about certain people
I'm bothered by how you're making a show about your inner struggle when I'd expect a town player to discuss the differing opinions with their teammates in their team PT rather than say "omg I'm confused and don't know what to do" in the game thread for everyone to see
To me it reads like you're showing off how critically you're thinking about the game and addressing the fact that you disagree with a teammate in a way similar to hydra dissonance coming from scumKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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In post 375, Transcend wrote:i think im going to mark kagami as greenKagami wrote:VOTE: MulchGinngie wrote:VOTE: TranscendSpiff wrote:VOTE: Ginngiefirebringer wrote:Spiffy is still a scum mouse
Why? (To all of you). Ginngie has kind of answered since but I still want to know where the initial vote came from, if anywhere.Transcend wrote:Holy shit dudes. Cabd is scum.
Kagami wrote:@Cheet: Seems unlikely to me that Una made up that he believed he had missed a lot of game-time, whereas I think he'd be more alert to the gamestate as scum.
I don't get it. Why would he have thought he missed it as town but not as scum?Cheet wrote:I'm kind of upset that this is resonating with me.
That's kind of my thought right now.Ginngie wrote:it's like
una, trans
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Why does scum-mulch pull the whole mason thing just to come out and say Tor is town regardless of his own alignment? How does that help him?Transcend wrote:well until i'm fully convinced he can be town i'm pretty much just locked in my tunnel here dude
Does no one see that this is just a bunch of filler?Unabomb wrote:I think Trans is a bad lynch today. I think mulch is a bad lynch today. (considering I have been here watching it unravel throughout the workday)
So far I have no solid reason for scumreading either of Firebringer/Ginngie. (although I'm sure Ginngie will provide something for me to scumread, and there's still no way to lynch her)
Cheetory is pinging me, not yet sure why. I'm liking his effort though, so prob. not a good lynch-candidate.
Toranaga is null for me, hard to get a grasp on.
Spiffeh puzzles me. Maybe it's because I'm a nub, but I thought he would bring the fire from post #1 onwards. But I guess he will either show his work, be it scum or town, whenever he has time to post more.
I do actually like this tbh.Unabomb wrote:I just want the two of them off each other, because I believe in a thing where it might be bad for town if we all just spam the thread - no matter how "good" our content is, or how right we think we are.
We might feel like we are "gamesolving" and see others making "mistakes" and whatnot, but in truth we might just end up giving the actual scum room to sit in silence -> sheep -> sit in silence -> sheep...
And town make bad posts too, just read my ISO.
k, got it.Transcend wrote:you'll see my mulch progression in future pages
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I kind of see where firebringer is coming from on cheet and his answer about trying harder makes sense too. The last time I saw him try this hard, we were scum together but even that was a different kind of trying if that makes sense. It's probably just the fact that it's team mafia and we all have more people relying on us. I've town read cheet's content so far for what that's worth.
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Who? And any reasoning behind those reads?implosion wrote:It's town keely
When I know, you'll know.mulch wrote:Why is Transcend and his bullshit reaction test scummy and what pushes of mine are political because I haven't even fucking pushed anyone yet
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Patrick, I'm direct when I'm confident. This is already feeling like last team mafia though where so much is going on I get lost and lose confidence. Cheet was on my team last time and should be able to verify how bad I played. I was town and couldn't solidify reads worth shit. I actually think I'm doing better this time around if anything.
Probably because it's coming from someone other than me so when I posted it rather than Mathdino, it lacks the emotion that was behind the original message. Basically, I get the feeling you wouldn't feel that way had Mathdino posted it rather than myself.Patrick wrote:This seems a bit feigned in it's aggressiveness
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Mulch, it's your Transcend push that Mathdino doesn't like. He says Transcend's test on you was something he obviously believes. And then there's some stuff about how it seems like something momo would do which I don't really get because I've never played with momo. Also, if he was trying to get you to react badly, why would he back off and vote tor?
implosion wrote:This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.
Uhh...Mulch wrote:I have?
Uhhhhh. Yeah. If anything, Mulch looks townier from this.Mulch wrote:.... as a town strategy?
So why are you trying to pin it on me as if it's not towny?
Regardless of the fact that I did it this game because I was pretty sure Toranaga took town so it's not exactly random
but still
When he did it, it said more about tora than about himself though. That's what made me town read Mulch as a result. Why go through that much effort to make someone else obvtown if he was scum?implosion wrote:I mean.
The benefit of doing it as scum is pretty damn apparent from the argument that you make in that thread. You "confirm yourself as town."
I personally think it's meaningless in terms of reading into your alignment, whereas it could potentially be very useful for reading into the alignment of someone without the same meta of having done it before.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Scummy how? Anyone on the wagon can answer this.In post 710, Mulch wrote:We were policy lynching CABD today anyway, but on the plus side they are actually scummyKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?
Mulch, I can see shallow but given the way the game is going I also understand that. Where do you see him being pockety? And why is shallow scummy?
Tora, why is it fake?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I've seen him in the "stop getting banned" thread.In post 722, Chara wrote:
what's your experience with Fire?In post 719, Kmd4390 wrote:Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Oh wait he was in Nancy's game too.In post 724, Kmd4390 wrote:
I've seen him in the "stop getting banned" thread.In post 722, Chara wrote:
what's your experience with Fire?In post 719, Kmd4390 wrote:Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I wouldn't know. Sounded like cabds perception on mulch's meta which I'm not familiar with.In post 726, Toranaga wrote:
it doesn't work as a reason to townread him, don't you think? mulch is a huge asshole as scum anyway.In post 719, Kmd4390 wrote: Tora, why is it fake?
Mulch, you really think cabd was trying to pocket you by calling you an asshole? Think about that for a second.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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*Sigh*In post 740, Mulch wrote:
Well not that part but the part about locking me as town lolIn post 734, Kmd4390 wrote:Mulch, you really think cabd was trying to pocket you by calling you an asshole? Think about that for a second.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Don't worry too much about it. I'll take it off if I'm satisfied with your answer. I just get the feeling you are avoiding me so I want some extra weight behind it.In post 782, Firebringer wrote:For someone who asks to explain reads.
That vote isn’t accompanied by explanation
What’s going on in ur head kmd?
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Really? Why?In post 808, Mulch wrote:Implosion feels pretty town rnKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Can you be more specific? Especially on the second one because that's likely something his team discussed pre-game. I'm willing to be at least half of the teams talked about who each team would give scum roles to.
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Firebringer, I was counting mulch, Tora, spiff, cheet, and cabd I think. Or maybe transcend was one of them. Either way I counted five. That post was exactly what I was looking for though.
Unvote, Vote unabomb
My team might end up not liking this but he's my strongest scum read and no one has convinced me I'm wrong.
Tora, I'm townreading you but yeah that was bad logic on cabd.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Why is unabomb town?In post 876, Toranaga wrote:
he wrote sensible thingsIn post 874, Firebringer wrote:Why people townreading implosion?
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I'm actually more concerned that he went straight to "this doesn't make me scum" rather than reconsidering his own logic.In post 886, Chara wrote:
so you use bad tools as both alignments? interesting.In post 842, Transcend wrote:
I use this logic as both alignmentsIn post 554, Chara wrote:
Transcend trying to pretend town isn't biased or inconsistent is telling.In post 342, Transcend wrote:crazy... but i became hardtown when i wasn't voting you
hmmm i wonder if that's a genuine thought process from a player with a green role pm at all..
hmmmm
it's textbook contradiction = scum logic employed by scum, i don't believe it's a real read coming from Transcend either.
but in all seriousness. :> can you quote a towngame where you did this? specifically by attacking inconsistency in a logical way.
I still need to read pages 37 and 38 by the way. Much better than what I expected to wake up toKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Implosion, "underwhelming" is a good word for Kagami. I'm not sure what to think. I played one game with Kagami, who was able to obvtown as scum and fool everyone but Titus. I have no idea how to sort a few players and Kagami is one of them. Chara and cabd are the other big ones. If anyone has thoughts on those players, I'd love to hear them. I asked about cabd already but the answers didn't do much for me.
This reads like wanting to avoid drawing attention and stepping on toes.implosion wrote: . But it's not really accurate to say that I'm scumreading anyone right now. I'm pretty reluctant these days to actually scumread anyone early d1 unless something sort of falls into place, which it does sometimes but not always. I mostly just accumulate townreads.
My mistake. Didn't read that as a joke the first time. Now after you point it out, that makes sense. Why are you townreading Chara?unabomb wrote: Ugh. Stop trying to force "scummyness" into my posts. I was VERY OBVIOUSLY JOKING. If you missed that, you didn't read most of those pages after all.
It's been covered. I was hesitant to vote you because I respect mathdinos abilities so I said that. Why hide it? Your OMGUS is showing with your comments at both cheer and myself and then your vote.unabomb wrote: Why say that your teammates disagree with you? What is the town-motivation behind it?
Aris? Why?unabomb wrote: My current top-candidates for a lynch today are Aristophanes and Kmd4390.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I don't think anyone has posted a good reason for cabd to be scum. Did I miss that? Like policy lynching him makes no sense. His reach out to Kagami was fine. I just don't see anything that screams scum.In post 951, Transcend wrote:Ok but why have two shitwagons popped up instead of boosting up cabdsKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Yeah that was cheet. Auto correct sucks. But yeah Mathdino says OMGUS is something town-you does and it seems like your reads are based entirely on that despite what you say. I'll reluctantly:In post 956, UnaBombaH wrote:
I would never think "you suck" about players who are more experienced and sound players than I might ever be.In post 946, Kmd4390 wrote:Your OMGUS is showing with your comments at both cheer and myself and then your vote.
My comments towards you and "cheer" (cheetory?) are based solely on your posts/actions in the game.
I do not think you suck, I think your actions might have scummy motivations.
Unvote, Vote Transcend
He wants me to vote mulch but that would be purely policy for me and I don't at all love that idea.
From Mathdino, paraphrased:
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- Drop your Aris scum read. He would never pick a scum role. However, you pushing this does show that you are town.
-team mafia is town sided. Mulch's play takes away from that because people not in the game won't bother to keep up. Saying town loses if we mislynch mulch is BS. What are your thoughts on mulch vs transcend?
- you're probably right about scum hiding in the chaos. Lynch either a spammer or a lurker.
-youre being scum read for being awkward and uncharismatic and not seeming to care who the Lynch is.
-this slot is backed by our reads and meta knowledge and you'll be able to tell if it's a scum slot by our accuracy.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I'm gonna bite my tongue this time. The one thing I will say though is that I'm taking things from partners at face value in the sense that I believe they actually said it (not necessarily that it's from town obviously) because lying about it seems like such an unnecessary risk. All it takes is one person knowing your teammate better than you do and saying "wait they wouldn't say that" and you're fucked. I'm telling you guys whatever my team wants me to and I assume you are all pretty much doing the same. I doubt anyone is just making shit up. The only exception I could see is unexplained reads lists.
Preview edit: the part about OMGUS being town you was Mathdino. The part about your reads looking like OMGUS was me. Sorry I definitely it'll could have been more clear there.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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So you disagreed with me about scum mulch having no reason to try to confirm Tora regardless of his own flip? Can I ask why?Kagami wrote: Myteammates have no interest in reading this game, which is part of what makes Mulch a great lynch outside of some really good reason to think he's town, which has yet to be provided.
Really? Then I have two questions for you:cabd wrote: I have a very bad feeling I'm being set up as the "told you so cred" read for a possible scum-KMD
1) what makes you think that?
2) what do you think my read on you is?
Nope. I don't expect you to make it to LYLO.mulch wrote:Anyone else get the feeling I’m going to get mislynched in lylo?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Well the first part of that goes without saying. Focusing on the second part though, meh. I'm not personally convinced that Tora is someone who is obvtown in every town game but I guess it might be possible you could honestly believe that? Maybe?In post 1006, Kagami wrote:
Because he knows he could never maintain the illusion of being a mason forever? It seems like it was just a big show of championing tora as town, who from the sounds of it, was destined to be townread by meta anyway.In post 630, Kmd4390 wrote: Why does scum-mulch pull the whole mason thing just to come out and say Tor is town regardless of his own alignment? How does that help him?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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My posts on the subject have been as clear as I can get.In post 1016, Kagami wrote:It's true that I'm entirely unsure where you're coming from.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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It was a "claim" that was obviously never going to stick unless they are either actually masons or scum together in which case why claim so early? So what is he even trying to accomplish as scum? He's either joking or genuinely reaction testing. With that in mind, when Tora reacted, Mulch told us Tora is town regardless of his own alignment. If Mulch is town, he says it proves his reaction test is genuine and Tora is town. If Mulch flips scum, he says Tora is still town. This serves no purpose for Mulch as scum unless again they are BOTH scum. I did town read Tora's reaction, so that makes that unlikely for me. So yeah, the whole thing does NOTHING for scum-Mulch but for town-Mulch it helped him read Tora and in his mind prove Tora's alignment to the rest of us as well.In post 1023, Kagami wrote:
Walk me through it again, specifically the part where scum-mulch has already claimed a masonry with Toranaga, and then you believe he likely exits it in a fashion other than the way he did.In post 1021, Kmd4390 wrote:
My posts on the subject have been as clear as I can get.In post 1016, Kagami wrote:It's true that I'm entirely unsure where you're coming from.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I don't think Mulch as scum makes such a big show of how town Tora is.In post 1035, Kagami wrote:So you meant "I don't think scum-mulch claims masons with town-tora?"
The exit means nothing. Like I said, the claim was never sticking unless they were actually masons or scum together and in either of those cases they don't claim in RVS. The exit was inevitable.Kagami wrote:Kmd, the exit is scum-indicative if anything, since town-mulch is reasonably likely to come to a different conclusion from the "reaction test."
Nope. It meant nothing to me when he first claimed. My instinct was just to wait and see what Tora says.Kagami wrote:If you believe the entry makes him town, then thats one thing, but that's not at all what you said.
I dunno. The way he went into it being regardless of how he flips and don't worry about his own alignment because Tora is confirmed town regardless doesn't make me think he was after any town cred. It seems like if he'd been lynched he'd go "oh well at least I confirmed Tora as town".Implosion wrote:Basically, free towncred; I can easily see scum-mulch doing this to town-Toranga if he assumes that toranga is going to be townread either way, especially since mulch may have thought of it during pregame/may have been thinking about it before then when he saw he was getting scum role PM. Basically I just don't think there's any negative utility to doing it as scum if he was under the assumption that toranga was going to be obvtown, and there is simple positive utility in it giving him potential towncred/him later being able to say "look at me, i broke my scum meta!"
I sort of agree that it's somewhat unlikely to come from scum mulch who thinks he might have been able to get away with a mislynch on toranga.
I mean I wouldn't call it turmoil. Mathdino and I actually sync pretty well together from the little bit of recent experience I have with him. It's just we got opposite impressions on this game when we read it. He has more experience with unabomb than I do so maybe I need to default to him on that read. I think we still disagree on Transcend but we haven't talked much about him. We just disagreed on some reads. It's bound to happen from time to time. I'd be pretty shocked if anyone could honestly tell me that across five games their teams agree on every read. The difference is probably that Mathdino is more vocal and assertive than most people. Which is fine. It just came off wrong I think.Patrick wrote:I feel alot better about implosion and Unabomba. I'm unsure if I'm just seeing ghosts on KMD because he's posted alot of stuff relevant to the game and talked about a good number of people, but I get an empty feeling from the apparent internal turmoil in his team about reads in this game, whereas I feel like I often townread that kind of thing. No clue on Cabd, and Kagami seems entirely unimpressive so far. Probably worth a read of 4:8 Nightless, but that'll have to be for another day. I'd like to hear from Aris, but comments from Cheet/implosion suggest to me that slot is not worth focussing on now.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Team Mafia is an exciting event. It's bound to draw people that probably shouldn't play or at least normally wouldn't. I personally feel overwhelmed if I'm ever in three games at a time. I'm sure a lot of people are in similar situations.In post 1148, Firebringer wrote:So you joined team mafia, knowing there would be five games going on at once.
Decided you only had time for a bit so you would policy lynch someone who posts too much
I doubt it
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I think it's insane. Especially the first 24 hours.In post 1157, Firebringer wrote:
Even if she wasn’t planning to follow all games.In post 1156, Kmd4390 wrote:
Team Mafia is an exciting event. It's bound to draw people that probably shouldn't play or at least normally wouldn't. I personally feel overwhelmed if I'm ever in three games at a time. I'm sure a lot of people are in similar situations.In post 1148, Firebringer wrote:So you joined team mafia, knowing there would be five games going on at once.
Decided you only had time for a bit so you would policy lynch someone who posts too much
I doubt it
I like that you're finally pushing something, but this probably isn't a good push.
This is one game.
Count it.
One.
This isn’t even insane as far as activity.
Ginngie has played in more active games than this.
And ginngie thought Team Mafia would go at slower pace or something?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Guys, my activity is going to drop until Friday. I feel like my entire life the last two days has been team mafia and I can't dedicate that kind of time. I have RL plans the next two days. And I'm going to bed now. I'll check in if I can but otherwise, see you all Friday.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Transcend, not sure if North is following this game enough to have a read on you. The only opinion I have from her so far is that firebringer was fluffing too much. I'll ask though.
I think you're actually the only one with multiple games with me. Go ahead and ask skirt skirt though. He impressed me when I played with him.Transcend wrote: In compensation, I'll ask the teammate of your choice for a read on you if you desire.
Didn't I JUST do this for you AFTER saying I've been as clear as I possibly can?Kagami wrote: Kmd, do you mind fleshing out the mulch townread?
Probably to show the rest of us that Tora is town because it means more than saying "guys trust my read".Kagami wrote: why does town-mulch claim mason with her?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Actually that's just me saying the exact same thing twice. I just went into more detail the second time.In post 1227, Kagami wrote:I don't know what clarity you're imagining, kmd, but the statement made in 630 and the clarification in 1034 are contradictory and completely detached from the actual circumstances surrounding the claim.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Cool we found the part you misunderstood. He acknowledged that he did that as scum once so I do believe he'd at least so that as scum. It's the part where he tries to tell us Tora is confirmed town that I'm townreading. That's very different from scum stating a town read on town. Especially when he goes into the part about it being regardless of his own flip. He's not looking for a Tora death and town cred for the flip.Kagami wrote: Thisis "why does scum-mulch pull the mason thingKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Mathdino says the following on transcend by the way:
-the way transcend says fuck meta is town as fuck
-hes right about unabomb.
-team input seems genuine especially 897. Likes progression from 251 to 255
-he says not knowing my alt implies no coaching from scumbuddies
-he likes transcends reads and even says the read on me is how he'd see me if he didn't know I'm town
-the only scum motivation he sees is if transcend sees mulch as his biggest threat which he says makes no sense because mulch just buddies him when he townreads him
And finally he says it's my game so whatever but he's townreading transcend pretty strongly.
He followed up with another post implying transcend would choose town by linking cheets please don't roll against me thread in MD where cheet said he doesn't want to be scum against town transcend. Transcend never posted in that thread.
Preview edit: he's not gaining anything if he's dead scum who told us a living player is confirmed town. If successful, he's shrinking the Lynch pool and giving his partners a higher chance of being lynched. How is this not just common sense at this point?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I only have one reason for reading him because the way he plays makes it hard to take him seriously. He has like 300 posts. Probably two are readable. So good luck finding them. As I've said before, if you want to policy Lynch him I'm not against it especially because it's what my team wants anyway. It just feels weird to do it when I think he's town. I will say I'd rather Lynch mulch than cabd.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare