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Hai Friends!~
I kinda wanna have 2019 be a good fucking year.
So I am going to be a bit more personally involved with this!
So I will be
- Helping people fill out the form. There's always that one guy that doesn't want to fill out the form, so I am willing to help them out there as long as they provide the description needed
- Updating these tables. I'll probably check for new submissions on the form at the end of the week, and I'll make sure to keep the tables updated with new nominations. (Also, PM me if tables need to be updated and I will come running)
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who the fuck are you I'm not your grandsonIn post 15, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:we need to talk about your priorities, grandson| here.GTKAS-
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You know
it just occured to me that people may not actually know everything that was actually changed.
Because a lot changed.Last edited by Alisae on Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.| here.GTKAS-
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SIRIn post 19, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
i'm firebringerIn post 18, Alisae wrote:
who the fuck are you I'm not your grandsonIn post 15, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:we need to talk about your priorities, grandson
You are not a growlithe
you are an eagle
I am no affiliated with any eagles.| here.GTKAS-
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Alisae lolbalance
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ikr, I wonder who spent 4-6 hours all on tables? They look really good!
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Basically, before I go to bed, here is a tl;dr of what was changed
- Don Corleone is now body of work. There is no individual best scum performance award. Only best team and BoW for mafia.
- New town awards including the frequently request best town performance award and a award for best mechanical play
- The definition of Modfather was changed. Previously, that award was defined as making sure games were ran as smoothly as possible. Now it is defined in away that makes it so its not all about smoothly operating the game, but also providing high quality games
- Clearifications on Best Mechanic and Setup. Also Best Flavor can also just include pretty formatting which btw, people should be able to have prettier formatting now considering my contributions to this place
- Best Replacement is new
- Kodak and Post of the Year are now 2 different things. Kodak being a mafia award about mafia moments while Post of the Year being more about the social side
- and Community Contributor was added.| here.GTKAS-
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Obviously, I can explain certain details on things when I’m not in a bed trying to fall asleep but failing miserably.
But, thats the tl;dr
Also the biggest difference between best replacement in the previous years and now is that now its just individual game. Back then when it used to be around it was BoW| here.GTKAS-
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Actually, it was posted publicly why it was removed previously.In post 30, BNL wrote:White Knight used to be an award, it got removed for reasons other people will know
It's back this yearIn post 636, Scummies wrote:Best Replacement: Instead of giving out a subjectively judged award for Best Replacement, we felt that replacing should simply be done if someone wants to help out. However, we are happy to announce that the staff will begin giving out "Replacement Hero" pins to users who replace into games and complete X number of games in a calendar year. These "pins" will be small JPG bars that'd go above Scummies banners or below titles in your user profile to show that you've pitched in and helped out a mod in need. The exact number of games needed for this pin is still being determined, but expect more updates on the Replacement Hero pins from zoraster in the near future!| here.GTKAS-
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Alright time to see how well these sheets actually end up working out nowIn post 45, Boonskiies wrote:Nommed Nero Cain, Profii, Xtoxm, and Something_Smart for Goodfellas for their work in the BooneyToonz Extravaganza: Last Night Tomorrow.| here.GTKAS-
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Basically, all nominations are transferred over to a sheet via some magic Zor did
The sheet does update with the new noms, however since it was never optimized for the new awards, so I have to find those new awards on the sheet, then scroll a lot to find the description and everything needed, where as it used to do that and go into its own separate little category
Look, this is stuff we’ll figure out.
We’ll play around with it some more and get it all sorted out, but don’t let that stop ya from submitting noms.
I would recommend sending the form and also putting nominations in thread FOR NOW. I’ll just make sure to make sure the nominations that are posted in thread are submitted via the form.
BTW working on updating the other nominations now, so far goodfellas is fully updated.
@Jingle and Boon, is the Last Night Tomorrow thing part of the title of the game? If so I can update that, I kinda just assumed that the title thread was c/p’d and that in the title it was that to show the phase of the game instead of what teh game was actually called, so if this assumption is wrong, yell at me and I’ll fix it| here.GTKAS-
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I was actually worried that the scummy banners on the main one might be enough to mess it up considering images in tables do not mix well, but its mostly just space characters that do that since those really mess with things.
But honestly, these tables are the most satisfying thing I have probably ever done on site tbh.
They just look so clean and smooth.| here.GTKAS-
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Thanks!
While the tablework was 100% me, the lot of us tried really hard to come up with new awards that the people who cared would be really excited for, and of course heavily demanded (best individual town cough cough)| here.GTKAS-
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we wanna find the best dudeIn post 70, Xtoxm wrote:minimum 3 games for don corleone?
what if the person i want to nom doesnt roll scum that many times?
And we’re convinced that just from 1 game, you can’t do that when it comes to scumplay.
Plus its early 2019 atm, it’s likely that they will still play and rand scum enough times for you to nominate them.| here.GTKAS-
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OH BTW
Important I mention this
I am going to wait a bit before adding more Post of the Year nominations that aremafia related
There is some discussion going on backstage about that specific award, and I'll probably add more to this later when I actualy get acknowledgement on literally I'm saying backstage.
There may or may not be a very small but significant change to that award's description.
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nopeIn post 89, the worst wrote:I wonder if it's worth splitting best newbie/most improved?
Sorry, I know a lot of work has been done to the awards already for 2019.
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also even if you did this, awarding for new awards and an overall makeover doesn’t seem right when we just had another flavorless ceremony.In post 91, the worst wrote:I was going to nominate the scummies for most improved :U
Go look into reading some of the old ceremonies, those were top notch but unfortunately someone dropped the ball this year, and while I was given a 2nd chance to work on flavor, by that time, I was too busy with other things.| here.GTKAS-
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I wanna kinda give a shoutout to RC who quite frankly
- invited all of the judges to judge himself aside from 1
- was the only person who actually took the initiative to actually make sure we HAD a ceremony
Quite frankly, I was just his secretary, he actually made sure the scummies happened this year, so he deserves a shoutout for that.| here.GTKAS-
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and then they won't win because the award is team focused not individual focusedIn post 103, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Anyone can have one good game, and can just nominate that for goodfellas.In post 95, Alisae wrote:Btw I’m surprised no one complained about no single game don corleone nom| here.GTKAS-
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having read what you said and updating the tables soon, I definitely agree with you b-but uh it might be too early for me tbh I have to see if I can keep it more engaging each month cuz I know how hipe works, it dies down, so we gotta keep it up just like the beats and the rythm I gotta find a way to keep it goin if you stop it dies.In post 108, Jingle wrote:Nomming ali and relly for community contrib, btw.
Feel like that's a category where we should aim for a shitton of noms
I'll work on that ;D| here.GTKAS-
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Whats the point?In post 113, Chemist1422 wrote:it says “whtie knight” in the category title| here.GTKAS-
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shouldn't a certain duckling be keep track ofIn post 124, Jingle wrote:
Actually, something like this would be a decent community contrib nom, imo. Finding replacements can be hard, and someone who did that much to help game integrity deserves the recognition.In post 122, Flavor Leaf wrote:The sheer fact you replaced into 28 games warrants a nom.
how many times someone replaces in
how many times someone replaces out
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The more people who are interested in the scummies and play/watch/mod games, the more people who will want to see play in those games and go "I want to nominate that" thus resulting in more nominations.In post 129, Jingle wrote:Oh, also, speaking as someone who dropped the ball epicly on judging the scummies last year, I felt there was a lack of options when it came to Paperback Writer and Best 3p. The noms we had were good, but I feel like there definitely could have been more noms. So... Nom those things.
3rd Party is always kinda a hard one considering they're rare.
Paperback is just people not appreciating flavor tbh, because rarely do you see people who actually appreciate appreciate flavor. NO ONE appreciates graphics that were done just for that game (speaking from my own experience, I few games I did art for and modded, I started realizing that it was way more easier to just slap an image found on the internet then to make something that no one will care about)| here.GTKAS-
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Thats what its about yeah. How else are you going to improve a gamestate or its integrity? Like, to improve the gamestate or intergrity, you need to be a postive change on the game. And there's only really 1 real way to do this and thats through play (unless there's something else I'm just not considering)In post 130, Firebringer wrote:Also I think the fact that White Knight is pretty much treated as just another Moment Brilliance variation is a problem so I think people need to stop considering that as part of the nom and we shouldn't be nomming people for just coming into a game and blowing it up.
But given site culture I doubt that will happen and the award is basically going to be Moment of Brilliance but the person replaced in!
Edit: to clarify I think white knight should be rewarding what I think is important about repalcements and the factthat they are helping to improve the game state and game integrity, but I think it only really is awarding good play so its basically a play award disguised as something else and it kind of either shouldn't exist or should just be labelled as "best replacement based on play" instead of what it is now.
If there's a case that comes up where a replacement made the game just better to be in and better to play, then nominate that.
The only scenario I can think of off the top of my head where you replace in, no one wants to play the game, and you replacing in got people to play the game in a way that was healthy.
I'm sure there are other scenarios, but that was the first one that came to my mind.
Also kinda wanna empathize the healthy part, screaming and demanding people to play the game in a way thats unpleasant is not healthy, and why would you want to nominate that? Thats encouraging this behavoir which isn't pleasant. If ur able to do get people to play the game in this scenario where its pleasant to want to play the game and you want to play it, then thats worth a nom.| here.GTKAS-
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This is the first sentence of the Description of White Knight
Helping to improve the gamestate and intergrity is a sizable contribution to the game (assuming it was after replacing in). The examples provided on what that may look like.This award is awarded to a player who replaced into a game and was able to make a sizable contribution to the game after replacing in.
This is also a sentence thats important
I feel like this also covers what you want to empahize the most I think?maybe just coming in and taking a game from miserable to enjoyable.| here.GTKAS-
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I would like to hear more about the bolded.In post 136, Firebringer wrote:You are defining positive change on the game as being interchangable with playing really well. When the two aren't.
You can be positive influence on game and not play well..
People tend to like things that stand out. Good play usually stands out more then not.In post 136, Firebringer wrote:And only the second gets noms. The first nobody cares about enough to nom.| here.GTKAS-
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I would love to see nominations like this!In post 138, Firebringer wrote:Like the noms for white knight should be something more like "before this person replaced in. I was considering abandoning the game because I couldn't deal with it. And this person re-energized me to continue playing".
No one describes that, and I think thats the penultimate reason for this award existence. Someone came into the game and turned a terrible game into a fun one. One that everyone wanted to leave into one they could continue to the end. Not just someone who went in and dominated the game through good play as in they were influential to the game in away of having impact on the end of game outcome.| here.GTKAS-
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1st. That IS positive influenceIn post 140, Firebringer wrote:No one is nomming someone for their positive influence they are nomming people who did a massive turn around on games in game outcome.
2nd. We only really have 1 person nominated atm, so just going by what you think people will do, and how you think people will act is kinda hasty. I that you be the change you want to be here, if you want to push this award to go in this direction, nominate people for this award who you feel like fit the mindset of "before this person replaced in. I was considering abandoning the game because I couldn't deal with it. And this person re-energized me to continue playing".| here.GTKAS-
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Okay, stupid question, but where is the respect for replacements coming from?
Like, while I do have the urge to replace in a game sometimes, I usually do it because of the playerlist, or I just so happen to be following along so its convient for me, or I like the mod and the game looks interesting.
Like, I'm kind of interested in reasons why ywall replace into games, because I really do not think the first thought is "I'm going to be the hero that saves this game and makes it enjoyable again."| here.GTKAS-
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watIn post 147, mastina wrote:
And therein lies the problem.In post 121, Firebringer wrote:I had I thought I had a shot for and was really attempting to get (I replaced into 28 games in a year in hopes that would increase my chances),
This is not something given to those who try for it.
This is something given to those who earned it.
It is also not a body of work award; it is for a single game, making it an award based around your quality, not your quantity.
(and no, this is not me asking for clearification mastina)
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you can try for something and earn it at the same time.In post 151, mastina wrote:
There's nothing contradictory about that.In post 150, Firebringer wrote:
Not only was that comment garbage mastina. You contradicted yourself in the next fucking sentence.In post 148, Firebringer wrote:
This is garbage.In post 147, mastina wrote:
And therein lies the problem.In post 121, Firebringer wrote:I had I thought I had a shot for and was really attempting to get (I replaced into 28 games in a year in hopes that would increase my chances),
This is not something given to those who try for it.
This is something given to those who earned it.
It is also not a body of work award; it is for a single game, making it an award based around your quality, not your quantity.
It is not an award given to those who try for it.
It is an award given for those who earned it; these don't contradict.
It is for a single game based around the quality of the contribution to that game--that is a case of someone earning the award; it is not a case of giving it to someone who tried for it.| here.GTKAS-
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This is so sad Alexa, can we get this to 50K likes?In post 164, Varsoon wrote:Yo, so, wait
If I run a game called 'Varsoon wins the Scummies'
and I design it with Alisae's help and it ends up having the most poppin' off best mechanics ever on site, most interesting roles, absolutely stunning flavor, and everyone has a great time
All that effort I put forward to making a great game doesn't get acknowledged and awarded with a scummie because the motivation I had for doing it was winning the Scummies?
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Wait I actually hope people don’t think I’m suicidal I’m a lot better then what I used to beIn post 169, Irrelephant11 wrote:Whatever man, I guess I can't stop you from being unapologetically classless about suicide in a public thread, it's your reputation.
I hope this conversation brings you the emotional resolution you're looking for. elephant out~
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Nominating Hydras in encouraged go do it. I feel like I tried to push for something like this but not exactly like this, I don’t remember what it was. It got shut down.In post 171, Taly wrote:so like harmless slightly off-topic suggestion
could we perhaps have a hydra category in the future?
it sounds plausible to work toward that since hydra-exclusive games have become more visible, and that some mods are starting to have more creative policy's around the number of hydra's in a game from what ive noticed.
i think the scummies executed a well and great variety of awards this year, but i think this could be a nice addition.
just imo gonna fade bye ily all
But yeah, I even tried to write in that hydras could be nominated in some of the descriptions of the awards.
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Okay you're obligated to judge this years scummiesIn post 184, Varsoon wrote:Pshaw! You judges are lazy. If *I* was a judge, then I'd actually do all the work!| here.GTKAS-
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A lot of people did
those pms were never responded to even tho someone said they would take care of that
thats why we had no flavor during the ceremony again
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