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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:21 pm

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VOTE: Noraa

Gamma let's form a masonry
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:24 pm

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In post 16, Cheetory6 wrote:VOTE: midwaybear

im taking applications for personal vote monkeys.
if you want to be my vote monkey and sheep my votes all game please send me your resume and a cover letter.

Do I look like a monke?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 51, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 46, Something_Smart wrote:Sources say that midway is very scummy.

I haven't read anything yet.
hell yeah I've always wanted a nickname like "sources"
Sources say Fake News is Faek
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Post Post #55 (isolation #3) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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K guys I got the plan for how to win:

Execute everyone who is a member of the Mafia.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:18 pm

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Don't just ask them to leave. There must, and this is important, be blood.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:42 pm

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In post 62, MURDERSUNNY wrote:{Pink Ball, Something_Smart, clidd, Monty}

Pretty simple deduction, normally I let the game go a bit before I end it but you can blame Pooky.
Incorrect, try again.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 pm

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In post 64, MariaR wrote:The fact this game is a pun about peaches is awful and anyone who laughed I'm going to vote. Step right up handing em out
That's quite a lot of votes to roll out.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:14 pm

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*Crunches on popcorn*

*Awkward silence*

'Sup?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:15 pm

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In post 82, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
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VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
VOTE: Jake
Who the fuck is this?

UNTROD, ELIMINATE THE MURDERCAT, POST-HASTE!
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Post Post #94 (isolation #9) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 82, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
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VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
VOTE: Jake
In post 83, Cheetory6 wrote:cakez vote is fine.
he's just bitter that I won that game (:

VOTE: jake the wolf
This wagon appeared out of nowhere.

Can you lot explain to me what response, in general, you're looking for?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #10) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:34 pm

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In post 95, SirCakez wrote:
In post 6, staypositivefriend wrote:
vote: staypositivefriend
In post 10, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 9, midwaybear wrote:
In post 7, MURDERSUNNY wrote:I hope we can all handle this little disagreement peacefully. Anyone want a peach?
Hmm, I want to townread you for saying this.
what do you find towny about that?
In post 24, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 23, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:VOTE: SPF

welcome to Mafiascum ٩(◕‿◕)۶
thanks! i think i played half a game w/you on epicmafia that i ended up replacing out of

i'm excited to be here but i also tend to flood the thread a
lot
on my homesite, so i'm taking a more restrained approach and going w/the flow

VOTE: staypositivefriend
Serious vote
I feel irked by these posts
Really? I don't see much wrong with them.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 99, Noraa wrote:
In post 81, SirCakez wrote:Noraa you're scum aren't you?
Nope.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #12) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 98, SirCakez wrote:it's kinda gut but they just read scum-awkward
like the self-vote to open is a typical scum move
the question feels kinda forced
and the third post reads pre-apologetic, like they are expecting to be scumread

I still don't see it.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #13) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 103, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 88, midwaybear wrote:
In post 78, SirCakez wrote:I haven't read anything I just legit am not gonna let Cheet roll over me again
Interesting coincidence then...
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote: alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
I don't really have a read on him because this behavior is mostly NAI for him. What pinged you?
his opening posts felt aimless/uncomfortable to me - posts like #65 felt like jake was more concerned w/positioning himself as someone who fit in with the thread than he was with approaching the game from a solving mindset. i was mostly interested in seeing if i could concentrate a bunch of momentum around him
You've clearly never met me. I never start a game with "Ok I've got the scum pinned down"
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Post Post #107 (isolation #14) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 106, Noraa wrote:*finishes my peach*
*grabs another*
Noraa, I know he isn't around, so you gotta be Sirius here.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #15) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:05 pm

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Yay!(?)
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Post Post #116 (isolation #16) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:06 pm

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Anyway Louise, what are your thoughts about the wagon of 3 on me?
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Post Post #120 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:16 pm

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In post 119, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 116, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway Louise, what are your thoughts about the wagon of 3 on me?
what are
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thoughts? do you think anyone is pushing on you opportunistically?
I am a vote magnet. If I become the wagon, I am almost certainly the execute, unless external factors somehow confirm me.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:24 pm

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In post 121, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 120, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 119, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 116, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway Louise, what are your thoughts about the wagon of 3 on me?
what are
your
thoughts? do you think anyone is pushing on you opportunistically?
I am a vote magnet. If I become the wagon, I am almost certainly the execute, unless external factors somehow confirm me.
well if that's true, it should help give you more insight into who would be pushing on you opportunistically, right? have you gotten pinged by anyone specific who's voting you?
Being a vote magnet, I can say that every vote is opportunistic for both sides. Town gets rid of a potential LHF earlier rather than later, and scum gets a free town kill.

You can imagine the predicament that I'm in.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:30 pm

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In post 124, midwaybear wrote:
In post 122, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I can say that every vote is opportunistic for both sides. Town gets rid of a potential LHF earlier rather than later, and scum gets a free town kill.
What is alignment indicative to you
*shrug*
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Post Post #127 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:37 pm

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In post 124, midwaybear wrote:
In post 122, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I can say that every vote is opportunistic for both sides. Town gets rid of a potential LHF earlier rather than later, and scum gets a free town kill.
What is alignment indicative to you
Like really, what kind of answer are you expecting other than "How the fuck am I supposed to know?"
Scumminess isn't some objective quality, like hardness or height. I know scummy when I see it. Granted, I do have a warped perception of any game because I am a vote magnet, but still.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
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VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
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Post Post #131 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:57 pm

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In post 103, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 88, midwaybear wrote:
In post 78, SirCakez wrote:I haven't read anything I just legit am not gonna let Cheet roll over me again
Interesting coincidence then...
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote: alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
I don't really have a read on him because this behavior is mostly NAI for him. What pinged you?
his opening posts felt aimless/uncomfortable to me - posts like #65 felt like jake was more concerned w/positioning himself as someone who fit in with the thread than he was with approaching the game from a solving mindset. i was mostly interested in seeing if i could concentrate a bunch of momentum around him
Actually scratch the followup part, this followup is scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:59 pm

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In post 130, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
if me explaining my vote on you on #103 and then questioning you on #119-onward doesn't qualify as "
followup
", i don't think anything could
If you want to have 103 count as followup, then go ahead and throwe it over here.
Seriously, "i was mostly interested in seeing if i could concentrate a bunch of momentum around him" is pretty scummy to me.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:00 pm

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Why wouldn't you push someone because you wanted to hear more from them, instead of "Well I wanted to feel special in making a wagon!!!"
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Post Post #136 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:02 pm

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In post 135, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.
And?
And you somehow missed the posts following this one? I know I missed their posts, but they were on a
completely
different page.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:04 pm

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In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: jake
surprise motherfakka
Louise, what inspired you to vote me here?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:10 pm

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In post 140, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
Why?
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Post Post #143 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:11 pm

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In post 141, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 136, Jake The Wolfie wrote:And you somehow missed the posts following this one? I know I missed their posts, but they were on a completely different page.
I'm just wondering how what you posted was connected to the vote. Why is having a trashy vote and not following up scummy for her?
Well, their followup was also scummy
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Post Post #145 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:13 pm

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In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:putting early pressure on a player like you forces you to engage w/the game in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen organically. the fact that we're discussing this right now is confirmation to me that it was a good idea
Question: How does pressuring a LHF help you sort them?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:14 pm

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In post 144, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 142, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 140, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
Why?
understanding the playstyle of the people i'm playing with in a game where i don't know a single person is pretty valuable to me. if my push on you gives me
no
information other than gaining insight into how people play, i would still consider it a good thing
Or you could read up on how people play via looking at their previous games.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:23 pm

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In post 148, Cheetory6 wrote:a wise man once said
meta is trash
Reading the playstyle of a player isn't meta.

Imterpreting the actions of the present with the past to scumhunt
is
meta.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:24 pm

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In post 149, staypositivefriend wrote:this seems self-explanatory - it helps me sort you
LHF are scummy by default. That's why they're called LHF.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:42 pm

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In post 157, Gypyx wrote:uh forget that off above
What?
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Post Post #160 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:47 pm

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Ah, alright.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:51 pm

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7/10
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Post Post #168 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:07 pm

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Gamma is an acceptable Wagon.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:28 pm

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In post 171, Gypyx wrote:-> his post has been done pre-rand

-> it's a nice easy way for scum to get into the game

lolwhat
I mean, Gamma could've only posted it if they rolled scum.

Or just didn't make it pre-rand.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:16 pm

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Gamma, who would you kill right now?
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Post Post #188 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:45 pm

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Hyperposttime
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Post Post #199 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:50 am

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In post 198, Zaiden wrote:Finally, if you're an anime fan and not watching Wonder Egg Priority this season, what are you doing with life?
Being poor
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Post Post #202 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:56 am

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In post 201, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
uhhhh
I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:09 am

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In post 205, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 202, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter.
Why made you reconsider?
The previous interactions with oyhers in the thread made me think that the wagon might've been scum motivated.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:22 am

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In post 208, MURDERSUNNY wrote:It looked to me like you got worried about votes on you and wanted to try to get something else going
Yeah, because we're totally gonna steamroll someone within the first day of the game.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 261, Zaiden wrote:3. I think we should be looking at Jake as a candidate for our D1 eject because they're saying it's bad to target LHF. At first I thought this meant he was referring to other players, and maybe he was protecting his own scum teammates from scrutiny. But after reading through it more carefully the LHF Jake was talking about was actually himself. I still don't think it's a good defence though or even a legitimate point against SPF. If I was accused of being LHF, my first reaction would be to prove I'm actually a HHF. Not to deflect like that. Also he jumped straight to asking Gamma who should be killed to deflect attention away from himself/them. Imo this early on we should be asking who looks scummy, why are they scummy and observe further comments/replies they make. Then ask whether they should they be killed or if there are other more suspicious people. His line of logic does not follow that natural order I've just given. But Hectic and Hopkirk disagree with me. They think Jake seems pretty good, but I've been right before when they've been wrong so.
So.. you want to exe the LHF for being LHF?

That's so sexy of you.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 278, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 62, MURDERSUNNY wrote:{Pink Ball, Something_Smart, clidd, Monty}

Pretty simple deduction, normally I let the game go a bit before I end it but you can blame Pooky.
I believe in this solve

which one do we murder first?
Monty. He always brings his Halls, and it's a big problem every time.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:32 am

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Nor Nor, what is your opinion on Apple Cider?
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Post Post #286 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 283, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Nor Nor, what is your opinion on Apple Cider?
This is a legitimate question btw.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:35 am

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In post 287, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:does any1 else read spf as awkward?
I have them as scum if that means anything to you.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 290, Noraa wrote:
In post 283, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Nor Nor, what is your opinion on Apple Cider?
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm peaches are superior!
This response is interesting.

I'll town-lean Noraa for now.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 297, Noraa wrote:
In post 294, Jake The Wolfie wrote:This response is interesting.

I'll town-lean Noraa for now.
how did that question have anything to do with ... anything game related?!
Informedation, obviously.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:46 am

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We found Midway's town post.

Although anything defending me seems townie tbh, so I may be very biased.

P-edit: I was talking about post
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Post Post #358 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:07 am

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Ok MariaR, spill what you've been reading. It's page 15 now.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:09 am

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Noraa, can you please stop making "hyperposter" seem like a woefully inadequet title for you?
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Post Post #383 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:15 am

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Noraa honey, please give others a chance to talk. I know you like being the center of attention, but you need to let other share their thoughts babe. Here, have a peach.

*Jake hands Nor Nor a nice, fluffy peach*
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Post Post #388 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:25 am

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Where is PrivateI? We need more mods, since MariaR isn't coming anytime soon.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:33 am

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In post 390, Noraa wrote:
In post 387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 383, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Noraa honey, please give others a chance to talk. I know you like being the center of attention, but you need to let other share their thoughts babe.
Image

I think he's just trying to seize the throne.
:O Pooky I think ur right!
PROTEC DA THRONE!!!!!!!!!!
*gets my peaches and throws them all at Jake's head*
Try delaying the inevitible. You'll die eventually, Noraa. Then I'll drag you down to Hell, and no one will save you then.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 409, MariaR wrote:Hello hello did you miss me? I know you did. Anyway let us vote a wolf shall we? Here I'll start.
VOTE: Cakez
You're a few pages late, MariaR.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:10 am

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Can you expllain what you see in Cake?
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Post Post #415 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:20 am

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I'm a little unconvinced. Can you name at least 1 of them so that I feel more confident that I won't be wasting my time chasing flaws that don't exist?
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Post Post #551 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:32 pm

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In post 416, MariaR wrote:A lot of Zaidens posts feel like they're trying to project their town game and talk about things they do as town to try and replicate that same energy than just being town. Look at 225 for a good example.

There. 1 flaw. Happy? :giggle:
I don't really see it in 225. I see them trying something NAI.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:32 pm

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Gamma! If you had to kill someone right now, who would it be?
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Post Post #602 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:02 pm

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In post 598, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 571, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma! If you had to kill someone right now, who would it be?
in what sense :P
You're being overly pedantic and you damn well know it.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #633 (isolation #64) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 617, Zaiden wrote:I can understand why Cheetory would think I'm bad based off my opening post. I was taking the mick in some senses. But I didn't mean any harm by it. I came up with it entirely by myself. And the only input my team had was the handmade modkill meme and telling me to include a blacklist. So I don't know if Flopz/Hectic/Hopkirk have done anything weird on this site. But I feel like I'm also being judged by my association with them, and not for who I actually am as a player and person.

Additionally, I honestly don't get why people are voting for Gamma.

What was the issue with their vote on Jake and why is being pedantic an issue? From my perspective, Gamma hasn't done anything wrong. And Jake is probably my heaviest scumlean atm based on what I've said before, about how they aren't really engaging with Gamma or others in good faith. The questions they've asked seem pretty agenda driven to me. I'm really not convinced by this wagon onto Gamma and would like to ask Jake and others if there's some unexplained meta going on here.

Vote: JakeTheWolf


Anyway, I've literally had no response to any question I've asked about Pooky. So I'm just going to assume this is the usual for them? It's actually driving me insane. As for Spring Breeze, I literally don't understand how talking in poems makes people think they're good. How is it they can say 'I think SFP is good because I think SFP is good' and that's somehow not flimsy. And something I actually say with substantiation is therefore flimsy??? @_@.

I seriously feel like I'm visiting a completely different countr/culture that abides by a different set of logical values that has some occasional overlaps with my own, in terms of what's just accepted at face value. But I guess it's a learning curve. The onus is on me to become accustomed to this culture, show I'm working hard to help solve the game and that I can be trusted as a member of town.

If you don't know why I am voting Gamma, then you haven't been paying attention.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #65) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:05 am

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In post 635, Zaiden wrote:In retrospect, after reading through the thread without being sleep deprived, I think Gamma's unwillingness to talk about reads/thoughts on the game state when pushed for it seems pretty bad. But I think MWB did mention what would scum Gamma have to gain from posting like that? Would jester be bastard or non-bastard in this setup?
Jester is usually considered to be Bastard.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #66) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:19 am

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Gamma, who would you eliminate today if everyone was a option?
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Post Post #797 (isolation #67) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:26 am

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In post 792, SirCakez wrote:
In post 787, Spring Breeze wrote:*don't you
*Mods*
I'd hope you weren't rallying for the Mods.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #68) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 804, Jingle wrote:Noraa has played exactly one game with me. One game in which shellyc was both town and scum and I got shot due to a mod error on N2. Noraa herself says she doesn't know shit about Dann. And yet... I'm a strong scumread on the basis of BoP.
What game was this?
midwaybear wrote::(
VOTE: Jake
I think Gamma is town, and I do think Jake's fixation around Gamma is scummy (I think this is what Zaiden sees?).

@Jingle I think Noraa's town play is extremely erratic and can appear pretty scummy. I have no clue if her scum game is similar to this, but these sort of wild reads are generally what I would expect.
Fixation, as in Gamma has been the main topic I've talked about?
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Post Post #820 (isolation #69) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 817, midwaybear wrote:
In post 814, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Fixation, as in Gamma has been the main topic I've talked about?
Pretty much. I find that fixating on one person can be a scum strat. It's also a little worrying to me how your content has dropped off since the beginning of the game.
I didn't like your vote on Gamma last night in particular. Him being pedantic might be scummy, but him being so blatantly pedantic isn't really scummy.
He wasn't just being pedantic, he dodged the question entirely. It wasn't until I rephrased the question that they answered.

It's not "fixation", I was asking Gamma a question and god damn if I didn't get an answer.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #70) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:21 pm

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Now call me crazy, but Shellyc wasn't a Jake or Serial Surgeon.
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Post Post #826 (isolation #71) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:24 pm

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Right, I forgot that Shelly was a cheater.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #72) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:27 pm

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In post 823, midwaybear wrote:
In post 820, Jake The Wolfie wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you really haven't done much to move the game forward recently besides asking Gamma the same question. I get that you want an answer from him, but it would be nice if you did other things as well.
Why did you choose to go after me in particular?
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Post Post #833 (isolation #73) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 830, Zaiden wrote:Wouldn't the gap in needing to explain anything therefore be meta?
It could be gut, faked townread, testing for a reaction, or something else. Meta doesn't have to be the first answer.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #74) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm

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In post 831, midwaybear wrote:
In post 829, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why did you choose to go after me in particular?
Because I'm scared of Pooky

Your vote on Gamma wasn't great, and you were falling under the radar. Do you find me scummy for going after you?
No, I don't.

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)
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Post Post #838 (isolation #75) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 837, midwaybear wrote:
In post 835, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)
If MT follows the same pattern as you, I will definitely go after her.
Now is there a reason your content level dropped off? You have been deflecting a bit for your past few posts.
I am not aware of this.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #76) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 851, Zaiden wrote: Next, what's to stop you and Jake from knowing this and coming up with some sort of plan to wagon Jake and point out: 'oh Jake usually gets miselimmed he must therefore be good' as you say. You say you don't buy into meta then proceed to use it too to explain why Jake could be good from your perspective. How convenient.

I'm pretty sure "LHF must be town" was not the logic being used here.


As for the Gamma comment, you say Gamma is opaque like that's something obvious. You say this clearly knowing I don't know who Gamma is or how they usually play. You surely know that to me Gamma is a mystery I need to solve for the most part, just like anyone else in this game. Again is this not meta? The impression I'm getting here is 'meta bad' unless it's meta you've personally curated as being relevant. Again, awfully convenient and I do not think your previous statements on meta were made in good faith.

Meta is interpreting how players play to extract player-specific tells.
You're just looking for Gamma's playstyle, or their way of playing.


For agenda driven questions from Jake, asking 'Gamma! If you had to kill someone right now, who would it be?' was clearly some pretext to criticise Gamma for whatever they said and stick a vote onto them. They ask the same question more than once and 'bait' a response (don't know how much of this is real or just an act) so that they can quickly shift their vote and say 'Gamma bad'. "How does pressuring a LHF help you sort them?" - I think the answer is self-evident to me Jake is trying to cast doubt on SPF's efforts that could help generate more discussion/interactions. Then they draw attention to another LHF - "Where is PrivateI?". Why specifically PrivateI over other players who had been similarly less active at the time that post was made? Also subtly pulls attention onto PrivateI and away from themselves/the wagon they were experiencing at the time. It might seem trivial but I can see it for what it is.

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No. Incorrect. Wrong. That is not correct in the slightest. If that were the case, I could've just stabbed a vote onto them for lack of content. I thought their first actual response to my question was not only a nonanswer, but also avoiding the question. That is why I voted them.
I questioned them more then once because I wasn't getting an answer. I was pressuring them to answer because, again,
they didn't answer the question.

I still find SPF scummy. I'm using my vote as a strategic tool. Just because my vote isn't on someone doesn't mean I don't think they're scum.
The point I was making was that applying pressure to an inherently scummy player will result in a scum detection, regardless of their actual alignment.
Mainly because I was rallying the mods (more generally, players) to come play. They signed up for this game, so they're gonna play god damnit!
You can see a player calling for others player to come play... as scummy? Bullshit.


"If you feel this way about Gamma on reread, where does that put your reaction to Jake's questioning/vote on him?" - originally thought it was SvT because it looks like Jake asked the same questions to bait out a reaction from my POV. But now given some more context and further developments I'm wondering how much of that was premeditated and planned out to look convincing.

Ha! Even as scum, I don't premeditate SHIT! Unless it's a role softclaim. Which reminds me, I need to do one of those. Sorry Jingle!
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Post Post #975 (isolation #77) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:54 pm

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In post 974, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why am I your main topic Jake?
Don’t recall anything like this during smoke-filled-antechamber
You're not.
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Post Post #978 (isolation #78) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:58 pm

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In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay
Why’d you make it sound like that, then
I was questioning Jingle about their incorrect use of Fixation.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #79) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:19 pm

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*yawn*

What's kraken y'all?
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #80) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:06 pm

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@Zaidan can you ask your team to write a line or two for you? Pretty please?
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #81) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 1267, MariaR wrote:You should always townread Maria
I Jestread MariaR

I Jest think she's a Juster.
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #82) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:47 am

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Morning everyone.
Even though it's 5 in the afternoon
Wheeeeeee!
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Post Post #1608 (isolation #83) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:55 pm

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Huh.
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Post Post #1611 (isolation #84) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:59 pm

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In post 1610, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1607, SirCakez wrote:now that TENET is over I can say I think Gypyx is playing to his scum meta from that game
<3 thanks for playing Gyp
y'know, the reason i was playing like that is cuz that's my actual town meta
Que?
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #85) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:04 pm

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You had to put in effort to.. replicate your town meta.. as town...

Something ain't adding up here.
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #86) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:06 pm

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You said this game, not last game.
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #87) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:08 pm

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I feel bad for almost finding a picture of the Nazis and posting it here.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #88) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:42 pm

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How many days until we need to brutally execute someone?
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #89) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:08 pm

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Ok so I have no idea who to vote, I can't think rn.
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Post Post #1830 (isolation #90) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:01 pm

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In post 1824, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1823, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 1803, SirCakez wrote:Murder is the meta your whole case on me or is there something else?
You don't have any real SRs from my POV
Did you read my readslist
Your reads are either imaginary, or too complex for Murdersun.
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #91) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:49 am

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In post 2163, Jingle wrote:Jake, what particularly don't you understand about what's happening? There's like 6 different conversations right now and I find it odd that you're not interested in weighing in on any of them. Well, not odd, really. More annoying.
Exactly. 6 overlapping convos is confusing.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 2178, Jingle wrote:
In post 2174, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Exactly. 6 overlapping convos is confusing.
So pick one.

How do you feel about the Murder Cakez interactions, for example?
Bleh.

I haven't read it.
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:45 am

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Thank you, [MODERATOR]
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Post Post #2538 (isolation #94) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:30 am

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Lexe Luther - 2
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #95) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:08 pm

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In post 2555, Noraa wrote:
In post 2550, Spring Breeze wrote:compulsive fruit vendor selling dixie red peaches
Stop this wagon asap. I'm 99% sure this claim is real.
In post 2556, Noraa wrote:
In post 2555, Noraa wrote:
In post 2550, Spring Breeze wrote:compulsive fruit vendor selling dixie red peaches
Stop this wagon asap. I'm 99% sure this claim is real.
DONT ASK WHY BUT I AM PRETTY SURE THIS IS REAL
It could be a fakeclaim provided by the moderation team, nor nor.
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #96) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:13 pm

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In post 2580, Noraa wrote:Anyways we don't need to end day early and I want to town case kanna. Everyone should probs look elsewhere for a bit. I mean we got a claim and all. No need to rush the day.
So you intend to go through the 100+ pages of content, because the day shouldn't be ended early, yes?
Even giving that 50% of the game is fluff, that's still 50+ pages of content to sift through.
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Post Post #2839 (isolation #97) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:14 pm

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I'll vote after my ketchup
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Post Post #2851 (isolation #98) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:20 pm

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Ok ketchingup is borking boring

Spring, provide your last words.
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Post Post #2854 (isolation #99) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:25 pm

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Here's my day-ending words:
I haven't really been paying attention. Anyone else that relates to SB should shut up about your claim.
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Post Post #2931 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:49 pm

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Oh no! I hope the deceased follow their advisive username.
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Post Post #2935 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:50 pm

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Also why couldn't the game be this fast yesterday? >.>
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Post Post #3264 (isolation #102) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:50 am

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In post 3250, Cheetory6 wrote:AGar's pile of yeet is
Maria or GE/Jake/[Redacted]

I'm also liking Gamma less today.
Why did you need to redact a name there? And if you didn't need to, why did you do it anyway?
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Post Post #3275 (isolation #103) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 3273, SirCakez wrote:I feel like town is in control of this game
Like in Xeno 2 after I got merced day 1
Which town do you feel are in control right now?
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Post Post #3338 (isolation #104) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:42 am

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Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3318, Noraa wrote:Yeah if no one's being conciliatory, your tell doesn't mean anything.
The following people are being more conciliatory than Gypyx was in that post:
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???
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Post Post #3341 (isolation #105) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 3339, Zaiden wrote:I think it's a pertinent question to ask. But at present time I feel like this is trying to frame a conspiracy to undermine consensus townreads - rightfully or wrongfully - further down the line if things go wrong.
I imagine you think that I am a poisoned well, and so whatever leaves my well must also be poisoned, so you must always try to warn everyone of the apparent danger, which might not even exist.
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Post Post #3344 (isolation #106) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:04 am

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In post 3342, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 3296, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 3275, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Which town do you feel are in control right now?
can you walk through what the purpose was in asking this question?
Also just like.
A readslist with a sentence for each player would be :chefs-kiss:/appreciated.
take two, action
Like I would put more effort than usual into a Team mafia game.

hah
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Post Post #3348 (isolation #107) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 3346, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 3344, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Like I would put more effort than usual into a Team mafia game.

hah
I remember you putting effort in when we were talking about sending you :gyp-face:
I mean, now that I've survived past Day 1, my mission is complete.
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Post Post #3460 (isolation #108) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 3442, Cheetory6 wrote:

Code: Select all

          .-~~~-.
  .- ~ ~-(       )_ _
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                    [  back in my day players used to vote people to pressure them.      ]
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                      (ÒДÓױ)
Back in my day, we would execute people for funsies
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Post Post #3461 (isolation #109) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:58 am

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In post 3454, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 3453, Cheetory6 wrote:under threat of
murder
asking them politely to leave
No, you see I do murder the people who left.
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Post Post #3464 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:02 am

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In post 3462, Cheetory6 wrote:is there a particular reason you don't feel like playing the game?
I am playing the game.
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 3465, Cheetory6 wrote:who is mafia
Helivino
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Post Post #3469 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:13 am

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I'm playing to have fun.
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:09 pm

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Sorry cuties, I just woke up and won't be available for the next few hours due to said waking up

or cancer of the lever. One of the two
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Post Post #3507 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 3505, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 3295, Gamma Emerald wrote:her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs

but that doesn't mean she's scum yet
I think Gamma is scum for this post

Speak to me why.

Is it because they made some sort of pseudo-trap for other players to fall into?
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Post Post #3522 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 3518, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3516, MURDERSUNNY wrote:killed for reads?
When her reads are the same as everyone else's? Doubtful.
Gotta start somewhere, I suppose. If there are multiple good kills and you can only kill one of them, your choice will be arbitrary.
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Post Post #3538 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:42 pm

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Praise the sun, the VC is back!


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Post Post #3655 (isolation #117) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:14 pm

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In post 3654, Pink Ball wrote:Wait no, we're asking politely to leave. This is a happy community
We're dissolving his wagon in acid.
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Post Post #3955 (isolation #118) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:27 pm

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We all know I'm not making it into the finals unless you purposefully don't vote me out, yes?

The mafia will not kill me.
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Post Post #4006 (isolation #119) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:04 pm

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You really shouldn't give me discretion.
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Post Post #4010 (isolation #120) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:09 pm

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In post 4009, Jingle wrote:I'm not going to go into vig/cop/tracker/inventor/messenger/RB etc.
I'm actually a Miller Lite.
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Post Post #4081 (isolation #121) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:58 am

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Weird, when I PMed UT they said that they would purposefully delay the flip if we voted for closing the thread.
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Post Post #4221 (isolation #122) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:50 pm

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Oh fuck, PB is dead.

There better be a good reason why someone messed with my action.
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Post Post #4223 (isolation #123) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:23 am

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In post 4222, Gypyx wrote:
In post 4150, midwaybear wrote:
In post 4148, Noraa wrote:I think its a good sign. I highly doubt watcher is our strongest pr.
Well, I was thinking...
if there is some kind of protective(based off of the strongman), then scum have found a way to neutralize it.
think it's more likely a roleblocker given that they didn't name it "strongman"

what happened jake?
Really, you don't get it?
To be clear, someone
definitely
messed with my ability. if there was a bus driver on pink ball, they should out today, or else we should worry about the mafia's power.
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Post Post #4374 (isolation #124) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:34 pm

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Noraa may not be a Jester, but she is a clown.
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Post Post #4375 (isolation #125) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 4371, Noraa wrote:I have failed to read you before, I admit.
But I think that I am not wrong here because unlike the last time I read you wrong, this time, everything feels right. All the pieces fall into place nicely and I see a cake that doesn't resemble the town one at all
You soulread cake!scum that game and this game, you clown.
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Post Post #4378 (isolation #126) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:41 pm

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In post 4376, Noraa wrote:
In post 4375, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 4371, Noraa wrote:I have failed to read you before, I admit.
But I think that I am not wrong here because unlike the last time I read you wrong, this time, everything feels right. All the pieces fall into place nicely and I see a cake that doesn't resemble the town one at all
You soulread cake!scum that game and this game, you clown.
mhm and what does that have to do with you
I am unconvinced that cake is scum. Even if I grant that you are town, all that means is that you aren't bullshitting a scumread on cake.
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Post Post #4381 (isolation #127) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:02 pm

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In post 4379, Noraa wrote:Can everyone give a simple answer to the question "Is Cake scum?"
Yes or No will do. Maybe is not allowed. Explanations are not allowed. Only yes or no.
I don't know.
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Post Post #4398 (isolation #128) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:06 pm

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Do we know if there is a mafia traitor?
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Post Post #4400 (isolation #129) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:10 pm

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In post 4399, Something_Smart wrote:Traitors suck and would be miserable to play in team mafia so... probably not?
But is there the possibility that there is a traitor?
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Post Post #4414 (isolation #130) » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 4382, Noraa wrote:yes or no Jake.
I don't know, and more importantly,
I don't care
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Post Post #4418 (isolation #131) » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:15 am

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In post 4417, Gypyx wrote:@cakez / S_S : does that mean you wouldn't push a red check as a cop? cuz if i understeand your logic that means you have a confirmation bias
Gyphy, I am going to answer this after they do.
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Post Post #4426 (isolation #132) » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:33 am

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I think we're extrapolating too much of what the scum don't have based upon 1 PR flip.
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Post Post #4502 (isolation #133) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:03 pm

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Sorry to be a dummy,

Why should SS and MT see eachother as scum?
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Post Post #4505 (isolation #134) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:54 pm

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In post 4503, midwaybear wrote:Pink Ball watched PrivateI, MT, SS to spf n1. We don’t think there is a ninja
Wait, say that again?

How tf did PB watch 3 people at once?
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Post Post #4529 (isolation #135) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:16 pm

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In post 4506, midwaybear wrote:
In post 4505, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How tf did PB watch 3 people at once?
Watcher is a role that sees who visited your targeted player, so it's possible to get more than one person as a result if more than one person visits your target.

@Noraa I'll locktown you if you give me an interactions analysis taking a look at Kanna/Gamma and Kanna/Gypyx
Ah, alright.

But why are both of the scum?
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Post Post #5054 (isolation #136) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:42 pm

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