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Post Post #3650 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:58 pm

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In post 3637, Gypyx wrote:
In post 3554, Pink Ball wrote:Danke
hey S_S do you agree with the push on PI?

□ Yes
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□ Why the fuck are you making boxes
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Post Post #3651 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:00 pm

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Can we force Monty to give content before we dissolve the wagon please
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Post Post #3652 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:01 pm

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Tomorrow I'll explain to you why PI's flip changes everything from my perspective! I could go for vanity first but that would be abusive from my part
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Post Post #3653 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:01 pm

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In post 3651, MURDERSUNNY wrote:Can we force Monty to give content before we dissolve the wagon please
We're not dissolving it, he's dying today!! Yayyy
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Post Post #3654 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:02 pm

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Wait no, we're asking politely to leave. This is a happy community
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Post Post #3655 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:14 pm

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In post 3654, Pink Ball wrote:Wait no, we're asking politely to leave. This is a happy community
We're dissolving his wagon in acid.
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Post Post #3656 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:04 pm

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In post 3654, Pink Ball wrote:Wait no, we're asking politely to leave. This is a happy community
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Post Post #3657 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:04 pm

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In post 3644, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 3616, Morning Tweet wrote:Oh Private and Gamma were both players that Kanna just like first omitted from her readslist then brought them on the next time with zero reasoning. Do you really do that both to scum partners - like does that even happen?
"I will do the townies and then figure out where to put my buddies"

In pt: "you forgot to put us in your list"

"Oops"

Did anyone even point it out in main thread?
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I’m trying to find any sort of usable thread between that off-site game I mentioned and here but I’m honestly losing ground rather than gaining it in that regard, like, I had a realization the key point I might have been able to draw something from was a damn fluke

Though like, I’d probably be way more focused on making sure the reads look right to start with? Fwiw
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Post Post #3658 (ISO) » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:07 pm

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In post 3646, MURDERSUNNY wrote:40 minutes pass but no one else posted in the main thread.
Okay yeah actually this DOES make PI look worse imo
The person who ended up being the fluke did have this correction posted very quickly, and it was a scum-scum reader-readee situation so I’m like “hey that comes across as quite similar so maybe my mile-a-minute brain hit a chord here”
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Post Post #3659 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:50 am

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In post 3650, Jingle wrote:
In post 3637, Gypyx wrote:
In post 3554, Pink Ball wrote:Danke
hey S_S do you agree with the push on PI?

□ Yes
□ No
□ Why the fuck are you making boxes
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I'm not S_S. My name is Jingle.
hi jingle

can you detail then if u feel like answering
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Post Post #3660 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:50 am

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In post 3571, Jingle wrote:@mwb, could you poke Dunn for an analysis of Maria's play?
He is leaning town there.
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Post Post #3661 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:08 am

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In post 3652, Pink Ball wrote:I could go for vanity first but that would be abusive from my part
if you case it and we're like
*nods*
and then we do it
then it's not abusive.
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Post Post #3662 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:09 am

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oh no my posts are becoming boolean logic programming has taken over my pathetic fragile stupid brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #3663 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 3659, Gypyx wrote:can you detail then if u feel like answering
:thorface:

It’s on the last page, weird beard person.
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Post Post #3664 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:57 am

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In post 3662, Cheetory6 wrote:oh no my posts are becoming boolean logic programming has taken over my pathetic fragile stupid brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m a computer. Stop all the downloading.
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Post Post #3665 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 am

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In post 3663, Jingle wrote:
In post 3659, Gypyx wrote:can you detail then if u feel like answering
:thorface:

It’s on the last page, weird beard person.
oh yeah ofc i knew that i was just testing you
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Post Post #3666 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:31 am

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In post 3610, MariaR wrote:Cakez if you can find me a single game where Creature has ever called me town I'll eat my words but I bet you won't.

Using Creature for reads is like...lol. His only real feature is becoming obv town

Also can we please wagon S_S this is so painfully obviously and I'm sick of the fact we're talking about slots that aren't important and >rands like Jake when there's way more obvious targets
I'm not going to do this lol. I'm just sharing my teammates reads it's not the crux of why I SR you.
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In post 3611, SirCakez wrote:SB red flip makes me think SS is more green though
Go on
S_S was pretty eager to vote SB and it didn't look like bussing
In post 3623, MariaR wrote:Has S_S advanced his reads? No.
Has S_S shown the level of solving and investment he does in town games? No
Sheeping? Yup he does that as scum look at his vote on Spring
His replies are just, very bland and out there. He's just existing not solving or doing much on his own.
Also this kind of just seems like scum trying to widen the elim pool.
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In post 3638, Pink Ball wrote:Spring's wagon was all town!
Mostly agree with this. I think there's at most one scum in the 10.

I was talking to Dann and while he's not caught up here he helped sum up my feelings about the PI wagon pretty well.

PI flipping scum doesn't really change anything for me. PI flipping town doesn't really change anything for me. Either way, it's not really a surprise, because he just hasn't been here. If we eliminate him it doesn't help me sort anyone for tomorrow, because how the hell do you judge the wagon on a guy with 10 posts?

Given that PI had single digit posts at the time of the SB reads wall, faking forgetting about him seems reasonable from anyone who would go to the effort of faking forgetting about someone (which for the record doesn't gel with my impression of Kanna at all) and actually forgetting about him seems reasonable from literally anyone.

Combine that with the complete lack of CW, and today just feels like a waste of a dayphase, regardless of the outcome.

I'd honestly be happier eliminating someone contentious that I think is >rand town and having more useful information come tomorrow.

To that end:
@PB: I will vote literally anyone in the player list you tell me to other than PI today, even if they're a townread of mine.


I want spice, not flour.
I think this is a pretty bad argument to not elim someone who has a pretty high chance of flipping scum. It's not like this is an information elim.
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Post Post #3667 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 3637, Gypyx wrote:hey S_S do you agree with the push on PI?

□ Yes
X No
□ Why the fuck are you making boxes
□ other (pls detail)
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Post Post #3668 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 3648, Jingle wrote:Mostly agree with this. I think there's at most one scum in the 10.
why
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Post Post #3669 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:37 am

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In post 3666, SirCakez wrote:I think this is a pretty bad argument to not elim someone who has a pretty high chance of flipping scum. It's not like this is an information elim.
:roll:

It would be, if I thought there was a significantly higher chance of PI flipping scum. His absence appears to be meatworld based (despite being a skittle PI has no forum posts since mid December and is apparently either sick or waiting to hear back from doctors about being sick) and the associative bit with Kanna is wholly unimpressive to me.

Could he be scum? Sure. But it's a PoE read at best. As I explained in the post you literally quoted to say that was a bad argument.
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Post Post #3670 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:38 am

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I'm kind of bored of this day phase tbh. Can we just hammer private and move on?
It doesn't look like the pressure is gonna make private talk.
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Post Post #3671 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:41 am

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Jingle: "I want real info, I don't want to just kill a lurker"...while voting Jake
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Post Post #3672 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:42 am

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If you want spice how about this

VOTE: MURDERSUNNY
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Post Post #3673 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:43 am

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Thats not spicy and its a total vanity wagon that's literally not going to go thru in this game state regardless of if its on scum.
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Post Post #3674 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:44 am

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In post 3668, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3648, Jingle wrote:Mostly agree with this. I think there's at most one scum in the 10.
why
Mostly individual reads, somewhat gamestate.

Looking at the wagon and coloring townreads:

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Pink Ball
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staypositivefriend
, Something_Smart, SirCakez,
Zaiden
, Gamma Emerald,
Cheetory6
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midwaybear
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Jingle
,
MariaR
)

Based on PB's arguments, I don't think {You/Cakez/Gamma} has multiple scum and I don't think I'm wrong about any of the townreads on wagon. Is this a take it to the bank and bet the house, the farm, and the kid's college fund on it kind of read? No. But this wagon looks incredibly town. I also got the sense that scum were waiting to see if Noraa/Pooky would be able to derail the wagon for them, and the best position to be while doing that was wagon adjacent.
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