Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[MariaR]

The fact this game is a pun about peaches is awful and anyone who laughed I'm going to vote. Step right up handing em out

[MariaR]

The fact this game is a pun about peaches is awful and anyone who laughed I'm going to vote. Step right up handing em out

Found one if that helps.
(:

Hate you
VOTE: Cheet

[MariaR]

The fact this game is a pun about peaches is awful and anyone who laughed I'm going to vote. Step right up handing em out

That's quite a lot of votes to roll out.

My triple vote is ready

[MariaR]

I'll start reading the game seriously at page 14 until then hf friends~

[MariaR]

Hello hello did you miss me? I know you did. Anyway let us vote a wolf shall we? Here I'll start.
VOTE: Cakez

[MariaR]

I was too busy seeing that all the spam posting made me miss almost nothing of importance.

Gamma wagon isn't going to take off without more from Gamma so we'll wait and see on that.

[MariaR]

It was mostly a joke at Cakez because I made the exact same kinda post at him before when he a wolf. I assume he guessed that given his lackluster reaction

pout

If you want my serious vote at the moment it's this:
VOTE: zaiden
I'm not normally the one to start spearheading wagons so I'll simply ask people to look closer at this slot and if you can see the few glaring flaws that me and 1 of my team members saw. (At least when I was ranting they agreed)

[MariaR]

A lot of Zaidens posts feel like they're trying to project their town game and talk about things they do as town to try and replicate that same energy than just being town. Look at 225 for a good example.

There. 1 flaw. Happy?

[MariaR]

If they're a noob I think there posting is an even greater offense don't ya think~

[MariaR]

they're trying to project their town game and talk about things they do as town to try and replicate that same energy than just being town.

His only game on this site seems to be a scum game though.
What seemed fake to you in 225? I poked around his reasoning earlier, but it didn't come across as scummy.

To give a basic answer because I'm not combing through notes right now: Thought process and the way you get to point A to B seems very...meh
pedit: You say that Cheetory my friend but uh

[MariaR]

Perhaps I will after I get more confidence.

pedit : i personally like monty's pythons, can we let him vibe for one day?

Yeah, I'm down.

Vote: Noraa

Might just be my unfamiliarity with Noraa, but I'm having trouble figuring out where she's coming from with her posts this far.

Also not overly liking Spring Breeze, but that's fine. Cheeto is good.

Pedit: Cheeto may not be good oh no. Hm.

Worst post in the thread so far ^^^^^^

[MariaR]

You say that Cheetory my friend but uh

I'm a slow learner unfortunately.

Happy to turn the pressure cooker on zaiden if some of the lurkier slots start being townier.

I'm not just saying this because I want you to vote Zaiden but you are voting one of my confident townreads. Not telling you to stop of course, I'm just curious to see where it leads. Before you ask 'Maria why do you townread Spring!' Ask me again later.

[MariaR]

Worst post in the thread so far ^^^^^^

Why do you say that? I dislike it but I figured that was just my OMGUS nature coming out.

Choppy reasoning, leaving options open when the situation presents itself. A post of almost nothing etc.
At least if our blue mod friend here is a wolf Cheet isn't

[MariaR]

Catching up tomorrow. Had a birthday party to deal with

[MariaR]

All caught up
VOTE: Jingle

[MariaR]

Yeah, your page on my notes is smaller than I'd like but I'm pretty good with calling you town.

[MariaR]

I'll rejoin the Zaiden wagon if wanted/needed given it's at 5 votes and people are finally agreeing with my take but I'd like to flesh out a Jingle vote more.

[MariaR]

I'll rejoin the Zaiden wagon if wanted/needed given it's at 5 votes and people are finally agreeing with my take but I'd like to flesh out a Jingle vote more.

[MariaR]

I personally feel like Zaiden will become a more obvious wolf as the game goes on as you can see where Jingle will be the other way around so I would personally take a shot at them. However, if people aren't overly keen I will take the easy one.

[MariaR]

Also unwnd and me both agree Jingle has openly tried to pocket people like Cakez (and is doing it successfully)

Honestly, just take a glance at Jingles iso and read it slowly. I have it written another way in my notes but my teammates is funnier so:

'Everything Jingle types looks like a scummy cars saleman trying to sell me a rip off on words alone'

[MariaR]

Whose someone better at driving wagons that I can make do this for me...oh I know

ahem

Cheet, Pinkie come help me please

[MariaR]

Maria, what do you think are the odds of cake scum here?

Besides the fact Jingle W means Cakez=T Cakez is still in his town game range on my notepad. He hasn't done one of his obvious tells yet. If that changes you'll know.

[MariaR]

Midway/Jake/Murder/Gamma are the only nulls I have and I don't see that changing anytime soon given their posting. I don't care hard enough about making the wagons swap as long as people don't hard TR Jingle.

[MariaR]

Good fucking luck on that, she’s never explained her tells on me and she’s used them for 3+ years

<3

[MariaR]

You should always townread Maria

[MariaR]

Imagine getting called sus cause 2 people townread each other and want to sheep/bounce reads off each other. Wild

[MariaR]

It's very amusing to hear that kind of argument since you couldn't get further from my personality if you tried. Anyway it's not like I'm going to be the day 1 fade. I can care less if you TR me or have me at null branch off me to more important matters unless you really find this so pressing.

[MariaR]

It's very amusing to hear that kind of argument since you couldn't get further from my personality if you tried. Anyway it's not like I'm going to be the day 1 fade. I can care less if you TR me or have me at null branch off me to more important matters unless you really find this so pressing.

how exactly is your personality so incompatible with these kinds of plays?

and yeah, doubt you'll be the D1 fade, but like, not a reason to disregard points made against you

I can not recall a single time in my mafia carrier that I as scum have stopped pushing someone because I was worried about the reaction/heat I would get from it. Take that as you will

[MariaR]

Time has a nice hidden wolfread that I agree with but given it's D1 I'll keep the focus on only 2 atm

[MariaR]

Time has a nice hidden wolfread that I agree with but given it's D1 I'll keep the focus on only 2 atm

Team

[MariaR]

Sorry Pinkie we need to focus on Zaiden and Jingle. Besides it isn't like anyone would listen to my third wolfread anyway. Just wait for day 2!

[MariaR]

I was reviewing some peoples pages on my google doc and I was laughing at how I had one person just labeled as 'Will never be helpful just Elim or clear down the line' I think I wrote that at 1 in the morning or something.

Although while I was reviewing I need more detail on Spring/SPF as they pique my interest.

[MariaR]

What's the logic, and is it invertible?

I think Cakez is V regardless of your Align but it becomes self-evident on a W you flip. Is there a world where you're town? Sure, I'm waiting for a certain line of play. I don't mind going back to Zaiden or even putting my next wolf read on the table. But with the game state as it is atm I'm content just sitting here.

[MariaR]

Ms MariaR, I don't feel so good. 0_0

ZAIDEN NO IT'S NOT YOU I have many pages on how much I hate your posting and have ranted in my notes and to my team about it. Although I don't know if you consider that better or worse.

[MariaR]

Is it? Neat.

[MariaR]

What's the logic, and is it invertible?

I think Cakez is V regardless of your Align but it becomes self-evident on a W you flip. Is there a world where you're town? Sure, I'm waiting for a certain line of play. I don't mind going back to Zaiden or even putting my next wolf read on the table. But with the game state as it is atm I'm content just sitting here.

To be clear, you are saying that Jtown does not imply Cakezscum, but that it does weaken your read.

I kinda care less about your reasoning in that case.

I'm saying that Cakez is V regardless of whatever you flip.

[MariaR]

As the queen of ate I can help point pure ate from legit but do I want to get into a wall war with Zaiden? It sounds kinda fun given how bland this game has been. But then people will start asking me to read my notes and that's a Y A W N.
VOTE: Zaiden
La la la
pedit: Preach

[MariaR]

As the queen of ate I can help point pure ate from legit but do I want to get into a wall war with Zaiden? It sounds kinda fun given how bland this game has been. But then people will start asking me to read my notes and that's a Y A W N.
VOTE: Zaiden
La la la
pedit: Preach

this is just spooky

I have been called a scary player before.
Pedit: Wanna debate my new hot wolf read with me Cheet?

[MariaR]

Hahaha isoing midwaybear gl with that sure.

Give me a player and I'll give you a cliff of my notes and an iso if desired.

Check out S_S for me thanks. I haven't been wrong on this read and I'm pretty sure he's a wolf again

[MariaR]

@Cheet

Pink ball has been one of my messier pages on notes, but I've recently moved him to town with the angle he's taken on spring. It seems like quite an odd and simply not needed thing to do as a wolf here. His longer posts when he fleshes things out more is probably the best way you're going to get a read on Pink ball. There is one other manner but I simply don't want to go down that route and Pink himself probably knows why.

When I've been looking at his progression and marking down a few posts of interest like 528/750/1189 and look at his early game you can see an incline on how much he tries and is solving in his own manner. I think he's town here.

That's the cliffs of my notes sorry if they were too short. Paraphrasing is a bore

[MariaR]

Cakez: Maria your posts suck

Also Cakez: Maria I agree with all your scumreads!
pedit: P R E A C H

[MariaR]

Check out S_S for me thanks. I haven't been wrong on this read and I'm pretty sure he's a wolf again

Why?

Ask me next day phase I'm focusing on my stronger scumreads first.

[MariaR]

Nothing Cakez please carry on your posts are just amusing to me and I'm enjoying them that's all.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

*Bonk*

[MariaR]

cheetory

zaiden midwaybear

are my strongest townreads atm. the tier below that is noraa and maria

[MariaR]

You want me to tryhard for a post and take you down Zaiden? Really want me to start trying? Okay prep yourself.

[MariaR]

Feeling sick will try and get to this tomorrow

[MariaR]

V/la fever isn’t going down

[MariaR]

Wait why did we wagon obv town while I was gone hello idk not my problem will try to read Tonight if I’m up for it

[MariaR]

VOTE: SB

[MariaR]

That was hammer right? Okay, cya tomorrow. You know where my vote is going

[MariaR]

happy birthday maria! hope you are feeling better !

Thank you Pooky! I'm still feeling awful but hopefully now I can catch up during night

[MariaR]

VOTE: SB

i thought she was obvious town?

I could be wrong but even if I'm not it's not the worth the effort to flip the wagon while I'm sick so I rather move on

[MariaR]

⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀

They call me heartbreaker ♡

[MariaR]

VOTE: PrivateI
Vote isn't moving today byeeeeee

[MariaR]

What the fk Cheet stole my thunder

[MariaR]

S_S is probably still a wolf but this is my vote for today

[MariaR]

What was so scummy about my hammer btw hm? Hmmmm? Go on tell me~

[MariaR]

Btw Cakez everyone on your team has awful history on reading me and they should know it. The only person I could somewhat listen to is Rami but even then he should know reading isn't that easy.

[MariaR]

Interesting that Pink Ball received a lot of peaches. I would have thought him to be a prime NK target.

The scum that flipped suggests there's a doctor or some role that stop kills. They went the safe way and went for the second most obvious scumkill which is great in a game where there's probably a watcher that, if competent enough, targeted SPF and not me

Vote with me? <3

[MariaR]

Btw if you think any wolf team with me on it allows SPF to be a nk I'm offended

[MariaR]

Btw if you think any wolf team with me on it allows SPF to be a nk I'm offended

I'm not exactly townreading you after EoD, but yeah, that's not a kill Id expect coming from you

What exactly was wrong with my day end?

[MariaR]

What do you mean by this?

What part of my statement was hard for you to understand?

[MariaR]

Btw if you think any wolf team with me on it allows SPF to be a nk I'm offended

I'm not exactly townreading you after EoD, but yeah, that's not a kill Id expect coming from you

What exactly was wrong with my day end?

I was expecting you to join the wagon earlier, that's all

I was literally sick in bed and only checked the thread when it was at that vote count.

[MariaR]

What do you mean by this?

What part of my statement was hard for you to understand?

I was wondering why you would feel offended that people think you made the SPF nightkill.

Because it's such a risky/bad night kill that no good scum team should

make

Of course I don't know who I would nk because I'd need to know my partners but certainly not one of the most obvious towns

[MariaR]

Going from a Day 1 TR to a global SR? Wow it's almost like how all my town games go these days when I'm already out of my wolfrange *shrug* Cya after work

[MariaR]

maria, you keep saying you're out of your scumrange but like, what's your scumrange?

In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here

ever

I am so far out of my range it's insane rn

her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs

but that doesn't mean she's scum yet

Not true, scum is just easy to play so it's easy to win. It doesn't make my scum range infinite. Just because I

can

do a lot of things as scum doesn't mean I would.

[MariaR]

I'd get into more detail on how the idea of range is a pretty weird topic to begin with but that's not the point. Mena wants to elim Norra because the push on PB is just...really bad.

I don't think I wanna follow that line but he wants PB to know

[MariaR]

In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn

- you're having health issues though? so i don't think that lack of activity is meaningful?

- and maybe you say your partner's death as inevitable? like you're just ruling out one of many worlds where you're scum there

- i saw that argument come from scum quite a lot, so i'd be quite curious in seeing what makes you say that

1) True I was having health issues at the main point of SB's wagon but unless you think my partner is Zaiden/Jingle I would've pushed that a lot harder
2) Considering the way it started? No, not at all. The case wasn't that impressive to me.
Sure scum can make this argument I'm not saying they wouldn't. But if people are putting so much respect on my scum game and still thinking they'd catch me this easily it's like???? You can't have your cake and eat it too. This is why I've basically stopped playing mafia on this site for that exact reason.

[MariaR]

maria, you keep saying you're out of your scumrange but like, what's your scumrange?

In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here

ever

I am so far out of my range it's insane rn

her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs

but that doesn't mean she's scum yet

Not true, scum is just easy to play so it's easy to win. It doesn't make my scum range infinite. Just because I

can

do a lot of things as scum doesn't mean I would.

You instigated a wagon against me which had the effect of taking early pressure of Spring Breeze. Vanishing conveniently when it looked like my wagon could materialise into an elimination. And then you declared a Wall War on me to try and bury the hatchet without following up on it. Though you did become ill, so we'll give you some benefit of the doubt here. But you did come back to try and bail out Spring Breeze asking why we were voting out obv town. Then you must have realised it would look really bad for you if you opportunistically came back after being gone for most of the game just to defend someone who was not escaping elim thanks to Pink Ball's case. You couldn't defend SB harder because PB sent her to the shadow realm. In PB's words, there was no coming back from that once he made that post.
pedit: Fuck you right Cheet I'll get right on that
VOTE: Cheet

I don't know if scum!MariaR would never kill Spring Breeze here. I'll let someone else respond to that point. But for me I will use Occam's Razor here and explain it as MariaR knowing that SPF wouldn't let her go tomorrow.

I still have my old wall on you saved in my notes if you're really that interested in reading it but I don't think that solves much in this exact standpoint of the game. In fact, it kinda just takes away from everything more than anything else since I want the elim to be in 1/3 people. Also to say my wagon on you took pressure off Spring Breeze would be wrong since I started it and the pressure came after I believe? Also, that's rather nitpicky to suggest I only wagoned you to help my partner when the early pressure wasn't much to begin with.
I was sick, came back to people telling me in my PT Spring was obv town and made that post. Saw she was at L-1 and was like 'lol I can rest more? Bye!' Why does me as a wolf try to bail out a partner at L-1 instead of just going with the flow? Obviously what I did makes me look worse but you never consider the 'why'

[MariaR]

MY PEDIT IS IN THE ZAIDEN QUOTE NOOO
VOTE: Cheet

[MariaR]

@Zaiden From Mena: Are you intentionally dense or if it’s just incidental

Also from Mena; Norraa is acting the same way they did in Xeno blade as a wolf.

We're also still really confident on S_S wolf here

[MariaR]

I'll put it in nicer wording next time sure. Would anyone be down to-

why the fuck am I asking VOTE: S_S

[MariaR]

'Conveniently vanished' is an assumption that you have no backing or proof to make such a claim of.

[MariaR]

Gamma is making me roll my eyes

[MariaR]

@MariaR, apologies. But then I wanted to ask. Do tell why you pushed me originally, have your thoughts changed and why, and what are your opinions on the current game state and who you think SB's scum partners are?

The main reason I pushed on you is as follows (This is without the wall)
1) A lot of your walls feel fluffy, almost all of them. What you could condense down into a sentence you span into walls that aren't needed. Like trying to over explain yourself like nervous wolf
2) Some of your more...aggro comments of ate have felt super out of place. I don't feel like they're all fake, but it's hard for me to fully believe they're coming from upset town more than upset caught scum
3) At least on Day 1, a lot of people excused some of your actions under the pretense of 'oh he's new' when you're clearly not fully new plus have a team behind your back to support you.
4) Speaking of your team, they should've pointed out certain posts or things that clearly don't mean much or aren't AI but it seems they're just letting you go at it for no reason. (I suppose you could put this in the 'dense' category.)
5) Your tone between casual posting and wall posting is so starkly different that it's scummy and...odd for a townie to make. The switch of modes doesn't fit. Your only main push (at the time) was Jake the most null slot in the game it was safe and what I'd expect from someone in your spot.

With all that said

'Have your thoughts changed?'

Somewhat, Mena thinks I'm in a tunnel and you could just be bad town and a lot of your posts can be put down to personality. You're not my biggest scumread that's S_S and who I will be pushing for the dayphase. My entire team backs up this scumread due to posts I've shown them and meta.

[MariaR]

Oh ok Maria is town, thanks it's nice to have that read again.

How are you feeling? Did you get enough rest?

Yes, I only have a few minor headaches but I'm mostly fine. Thank you for asking Pink Ball I adore you ♡

Mena is very proud that you got a wolf day 1 and are reading me correctly oh glorious leader Pink Ballovich

[MariaR]

From Mena: @S_S Why was PB holding the game hostage a bad thing?
@Gamma This is not how I played in Ruby, besides that game is ages ago and has very little resemblance of my wolf game now anyways. It's funny that you think Maria would just do whatever I want as a wolf here, rather than her setting the entire pace. If she was a wolf she would just wouldn't pass along my msgs if she didn't want to or at least modify them to her liking.
Finally duh I wasn't in Xeno but there's this thing called 'gamings existing after they end' and 'isos are a thing'. Maria and I disagreed about Norra's play so she linked me to Norra's scum game in Xeno and I started to notice her doing things where she calls the wagon on her buddy on D1 trash and goes “omg how could you vote cakez, he’s so obvtown!?!!” (You remember this don't you Cakez? ^^) Hey guys, what is Norra doing this game? Exactly that.

[MariaR]

As for me I'll post more myself tomorrow. Long work day

[MariaR]

Cakez if you can find me a single game where Creature has ever called me town I'll eat my words but I bet you won't.

Using Creature for reads is like...lol. His only real feature is becoming obv town

Also can we please wagon S_S this is so painfully obviously and I'm sick of the fact we're talking about slots that aren't important and >rands like Jake when there's way more obvious targets

[MariaR]

Priv isn't bad, I wanted to wagon that at the start of the day and I will support that wagon sure, but I want pressure on S_S because he shouldn't be getting away with half the stuff he is.

[MariaR]

SB red flip makes me think SS is more green though

Go on

[MariaR]

Also @Morning I think the people who have had impact on the game is...well not me and you for sure but that's because...look at the post counts the louder you are the more you're going to be seen noticed and heard even if most of it is a contentless void. Really we should be trying to make more of an impact but with a gamestate like this? Yeah gl
pedit: Not at all, you saw how my day started. Why would I be unhappy with a PI vote? Do I think PI is gonna get harder to Elim as the days go on? No. Do I think S_S is? Yes.

[MariaR]

Has S_S advanced his reads? No.
Has S_S shown the level of solving and investment he does in town games? No
Sheeping? Yup he does that as scum look at his vote on Spring
His replies are just, very bland and out there. He's just existing not solving or doing much on his own.

[MariaR]

There's more but I can't just copy paste my notes from a google doc to this nor would I

[MariaR]

are you unhappy with a PI vote now?

I adore your company

[MariaR]

Wanna bet on that?

[MariaR]

Hammer time~

[MariaR]

oh my god what an obv town reaction let's change the wagon to S_S

[MariaR]

oh is it hammer?
VOTE: PI

[MariaR]

Cya in 4 days!

[MariaR]

VOTE: close thread

[MariaR]

VOTE: S_S

[MariaR]

Anytime Sircakez says 'My team' and Maria in the same sentence it should be ignored given that entire lineup has had awful history of reading me and always scumreads me but I don't think Cakez has much influence to push me so *shrug*

Then again Mena is going like 'Maria push S_S/Cakez/Norra or me big sad'

[MariaR]

Do you think MT is even a wolf or that we're entirely on the wrong track? (Sorry if you've answered as you can tel lI haven't read today)

[MariaR]

Super night

be back tomorrow not that it rly matters

[MariaR]

VOTE: MT

[MariaR]

The fact this day has gone on for so long when the 2 main wagons are the same and we're going to flip both is lol. Like, we can make a case on why 1 of them isn't a wolf with the other but do that after we do (or don't) get a wolf flip

[MariaR]

Cakez can you get my name out of your mouth no one cares thanks.

[MariaR]

Thank god this is my last game on this site so I never have to deal with these kinds of towns again

[MariaR]

VOTE: Pooky
Called it Mena

[MariaR]

What does a mass claim accomplish here exactly? It's only one wolf left.

[MariaR]

Anyway considering this is the only vote allowed it seems:
'VOTE: Cat
be back later

[MariaR]

I'd like if someone could do a few colored VCs for us to look at if not I'll look myself tonight but knowing 3 out of 4 of the wolf team means we shouldn't rush the phases because at this point if someone is hard vouching/confident about a villa read it should be taken into considering since no one is lying. Either it's the wolf clearing a villa or a townie confident ya know?

For example, my biggest townreads are Midway/Norraa

[MariaR]

I want to hear if people think S_S is likely to be partners with Morning after the day before, I think given the way it played out wouldn't be too shocking. But, I obviously have no real problems with a Cat vote.

[MariaR]

I also don’t think Jingle is a wolf due to the fact this wolf team seems very scattered, almost lost. There’s no real sense of leadership and Jingle would’ve brought that. With so many loud voices you need to stick together and that just didn’t happen from the looks of it

[MariaR]

Mid Gamma Nora and Jingle seem fine to me I’ll look at the rest later

[MariaR]

You still think I can be a wolf with that team? Anyone who has history with me should know how unlikely that is

[MariaR]

Because people are so worried about my scum meta because I am one of the better scum players on the site. However, looking at a wolf team like that who do you think would probably have to carry. Me (If we are under the assumption that I am a wolf here)

Using that logic I would've bussed my partners a lot harder to get into a better spot or at least tried to have clearing interactions something I try to do on most of my wolf games. If you look at the 3 flips I have...none of that? Like, I don't feel like I'm getting read as a wolf because of my own play but because other people are getting cleared off interactions, however that should add me into it.

[MariaR]

How are you cleared off interactions?

The fact I don't have many interactions with the flipped wolves should point enough to the fact I'm town.

With a wolf team like that who doesn't seem to work together much if I was a wolf looking at the VCs you would've saw wolves voting more or at least me trying to give some direction. Does that look like a well directed wolf team so far to you?
Plus, I don't think anyone will argue that if I am a wolf I'm probably the best one out of the 4. Considering I have...almost no damning/clearing interactions that should be answer enough.

If I was a wolf I would've made some waited for someone else to point it out and just pushed out villas. This entire game goes against any gameplan I would've had for Teammafia as a wolf.

[MariaR]

I mean based off of the way the scum team just fell apart like that, I wouldn't say they had an good plans or a lot of conversation with each other. Plus u had rl issues for a while so its not really weird that the scum team didnt coordinate anything.

It's true that I did have some rl issues so that's fair, but I don't think it's fair to easily dismiss such a claim. Anyway, I'm not gonna go on about this for too long because at the end of the day the only real reason I care about my Elim is reasons i can't go on about right now but it's no big deal if we get rid of me.

If anything I'm used to people reading me wrong/being scared of my meta so it's not really shocking. Pick who you think the wolf is and if that's me hf

[MariaR]

You still think I can be a wolf with that team? Anyone who has history with me should know how unlikely that is

literally all you have done this game is act offended people are scumreading you
no one cares about your crap anymore

There's no need to be rude in a free game of mafia Cakez you take this way too seriously lol

[MariaR]

Cake has overreacted many times this game and it makes me think he's scummy as hell but I'd definitely yeet both murder and Maria before even considering him an option.

dw it's normal for him.
I'm at Cat>Gypt>S_S>Cakez>Zaiden

[MariaR]

I don't think I'm scummy to begin with but, fair enough I suppose.

I think it's best to talk about who you think it is in the event me and Cat are villa since those are the 2 elims atm

[MariaR]

I'm ready to vote Murder and move on~

[MariaR]

Jingle - Empress
Gypyx - Crestheaven
noraa - Springprince
Zaiden - Hearken
Something_Smart - Rio Grande
SirCakez - Galaxy Donut (lol)
Gamma Emerald - Honey Babe
Murdersunny - Redglobe
Maria - I think I know what hers is?
midwaybear - Pix Zee

Wink

[MariaR]

VOTE: Gypyx

[MariaR]

Yo what the fuck I thought we were in night phase for ages

[MariaR]

The question you need to ask yourself is if the wolf is not in me/gypx/murder are you ok losing if the answer is yes then it doesn't matter what order we go in yeah?

At worst you go to f4/f3 and go 'wtf' So really idc if I go first second or third

[MariaR]

VOTE: MariaR

Sure we can start with me

[MariaR]

If you remove the obv town and people who are getting elimed I'm left with this f4:
noraa - Mask Your Worries
Something_Smart - Daylight Savings Time
SirCakez - The Fakeclaim Processing Department
Gamma Emerald - Basterd Modding
(Yes I went back on a few reads bite me)
Trying to figure out the solo wolf in that world is more important then trying to figure out who to elim in us 3 since it doesn't matter. Focus on that

[MariaR]

maria, if murder me and you are town, who do you say is the scum?

Atm? I'd vote S_S or Noraa in those 4 but people have pointed out some decent reasons to townread S_S

[MariaR]

I'd have to reread some ISO's to get a better picture, I was in the middle of Springs iso and saw some nice not W/W interactions with Gamma in Spring and I have a meta TR on him.
If Cakez is a wolf he's kinda been playing like a baby so *shrug*

[MariaR]

I don't believe so? I remember one of my teammates posting about how obv they were in our chat and since I was sick I felt like sheeping the read.

[MariaR]

The funny thing is I think the only person on my wagon who thinks I'm flipping a wolf is Zaiden (lol) not that I mind if you care more about gypx/Murder solving/thoughts than my own.

[MariaR]

It feels like if the wolf isn't in the 'PoE' people won't get convinced/talked out of it so I don't really have much reason to put up a fight just wastes time.

Also the NK is only important if the wolf is outside the poe

[MariaR]

Pretty sure Me>Murder>Gypx>Nora is a win though

[MariaR]

Before my team went radio silent we made a case on Norra wolf and if we're townreading S_S that's who I would vote over everyone else in the playerlist with like 85% confidence

[MariaR]

hmmmmm the most compelling thing about that is Pooky saying they were S/S I wish we could've seen how that played out.

(Pro tip if you have a guilty outting it day one instead of getting interactions/pushing it you're trolling)

The PR thing mostly has merit in a world where you want S_S to be the last wolf but I think there's barely a world where a S_S/Pooky team lets Pooky make the kill unless they were like 'lol we lose anyway who cares' but yeah.

[MariaR]

I mean considering I never got a prod and was convinced we were in night phase that should tell you enough

[MariaR]

Before my team went radio silent we made a case on Norra wolf and if we're townreading S_S that's who I would vote over everyone else in the playerlist with like 85% confidence

Lynx?

For the life of me I can't find it and the last thing you have about Noraa is a townread.

The case is in our discord I never posted it.

[MariaR]

Now that I'm almost dead I can say Midway made me scream when he called out my 'joke' when that was just me softing fruit vendor post 1

turns out it DIDN'T MATTER

[MariaR]

What made you think things had shifted to night phase

The fact I figured people would just hammer and then I didn't log into mafiascum

[MariaR]

I'm at hammer range Cakez feel free to end it bye byeeee

[MariaR]

It was fun while it lasted