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[Greeting]

Votecount 1.10

Billie Eilish - bad guy

(2019)

Commentary: Apparently this is the kind of vibe Gen Z-ers like. The Billie Eilish dark vibe. I'm more neutral on her as Billie Eilish always felt to me like an industry plant.

Galron

(4): Salsabil Faria, NJAC, Shiidaji, MalcolmTucker

Wayward Son

(3): Porkens, ProfessorDrapion, Galron

geraintm

(2): Wayward Son, Crescent

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(1): KittyTacky

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-19 10:24:00).

[ProfessorDrapion]

I've seen Gera do this no elimination on D1 thing before but my issue at the moment is they weren't particularly bothered about it early on and appeared to be genuinely scumhunting, whereas now they seriously want to avoid us voting while we look to consolidate on Galron's wagon.

Given the short period of time we have left I think I'm content vote here. But town should obviously be careful as we'll be approaching hammer soon, think my vote is the 4th.

VOTE: Galron

i dont think you should consolodate on galron, i think it is going to end in a green flip.
i also think any sudden swing to another wagon right now is going to flail to another green flip.

it is kinda like i think any elimination today is just going to end up with us one down

Again, weird post, town is uninformed, there's only one alignment that can particularly confidently say this. There are multiple scum in the game, our job is to identify them.

It’s not necessarily a weird post if they believe wolf is having strong agenda today which me personally happen to believe to be true.
Like the way the executions are going is like.
Me then Galron and then Them.
I know I’m town, if they are town they know they are town and Galron they currently town read and I’m starting to come to that as well.

Like tbh Wayward’s positioning is really bad because they have been on

ALL

town wagons.
Id like to see Wayward start pushing someone of their own accord and not just keep joining other wagons.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Votecount 1.10

Billie Eilish - bad guy

(2019)

Commentary: Apparently this is the kind of vibe Gen Z-ers like. The Billie Eilish dark vibe. I'm more neutral on her as Billie Eilish always felt to me like an industry plant.

Galron

(4): Salsabil Faria, NJAC, Shiidaji, MalcolmTucker

Wayward Son

(3): Porkens, ProfessorDrapion, Galron

geraintm

(2): Wayward Son, Crescent

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(1): KittyTacky

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-19 10:24:00).

@Gera

Vote Wayward.

[Porkens]

I strongly believe ger is town.

And I strongly believe the opposite.

If you think he's town, make an actual counterargument.

This is quickly reminding me of 2273 where I am one of the only people actually making an argument.

Read ger’s first post.

[MalcolmTucker]

I think Crescent's case on Gera is solid. Their contradictions here do not make sense as town. Moving my vote before going to sleep.

VOTE: Geraintm

[Crescent]

'Cause I'm skimming. Like, I only actually read a fraction of your last post and my time for now is about to run out.

Gera flipping scum townclears 3 people and makes 2 others look good. Also practically townconfirms me to Boot. I'd call that a lot of info.

But here's a question: If Galron and Gera are town, why does scum Wayward jump so quickly in the first place? What's his motive for drawing potential scrutiny?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think Crescent's case on Gera is solid. Their contradictions here do not make sense as town. Moving my vote before going to sleep.

VOTE: Geraintm

You thought the opposite previously.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I've seen Gera do this no elimination on D1 thing before but my issue at the moment is they weren't particularly bothered about it early on and appeared to be genuinely scumhunting, whereas now they seriously want to avoid us voting while we look to consolidate on Galron's wagon.

Given the short period of time we have left I think I'm content vote here. But town should obviously be careful as we'll be approaching hammer soon, think my vote is the 4th.

VOTE: Galron

It could also be that they just really want you execution.

It could be and I believe Gera has approached the game this way as town before (certainly the no lim D1 thing has come from them as town), but their logic and read on me feels inconsistent and forced, and it came directly in response to me disliking Galron's post early on.

I am amused that people are assigning scum motivation to all my actions.

On day 1. Which I 99% think is useless. You arenjust lucky I didn't do "vote longest wagon" plan.
But I guess identifying people trying to push me out today will be useful later.

This is again actually consistent with town Gera I've seen before, even though it initially reads quite anti-town, but I shall point out Gera is doing the exact same thing with me!

I was going to say “what happened with this” but then I read the whole post at the top here.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Even though I explained how town does that allot more then wolf does that.
Or at least from what I seen and what I do, town is allot more likely to push someone who was trying to vote with them.

[ProfessorDrapion]

'Cause I'm skimming. Like, I only actually read a fraction of your last post and my time for now is about to run out.

Gera flipping scum townclears 3 people and makes 2 others look good. Also practically townconfirms me to Boot. I'd call that a lot of info.

But here's a question: If Galron and Gera are town, why does scum Wayward jump so quickly in the first place? What's his motive for drawing potential scrutiny?

He doesn’t care.
He has been a wagon for ages and as long as it isn’t him he is fine with it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Clearly their partner hasn’t even been pushed yet or at least not enough.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also @Cres
What are the 3 that gets clear and the 2 that look good?

[Porkens]

I think Crescent's case on Gera is solid. Their contradictions here do not make sense as town. Moving my vote before going to sleep.

VOTE: Geraintm

That’s a scummy fucking vote.

[NJAC]

I think Crescent's case on Gera is solid. Their contradictions here do not make sense as town. Moving my vote before going to sleep.

VOTE: Geraintm

That’s a scummy fucking vote.

Why?

And what's so special about Gera's first post that makes him town?

[NJAC]

VOTE: geraintm

This is worth pursuing.

[NJAC]

That's E-2, BTW

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think Crescent's case on Gera is solid. Their contradictions here do not make sense as town. Moving my vote before going to sleep.

VOTE: Geraintm

That’s a scummy fucking vote.

Why?

And what's so special about Gera's first post that makes him town?

VOTE: geraintm

This is worth pursuing.

This is also a bad vote.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’d like to hear Cres a bit more before y’all fucking doggy pile execute on the likely town yeah?

[KittyTacky]

If anyone has any questions aimed at me, ask them.

Wanna vote Galron with us?

After he answers my question.

Kitty if you're talking about a question you had previously posed I can't seem to find it. I feel I'm being gaslighted.

I meant the question I was about to ask.

Then ask, what are ypu waiting for?

I did, and he answered.

In fact, you just responded to his response.

Oh yeah I'm here just haven't felt like playing.

UNVOTE: wayward was rvs. Probably voting Drap or maybe Malcom today.

Why Malcolm?

I'm not really seeing a process there. And there's a whole lot of "well you seem like you could be town or scum" and that doesn't really sit well. There was a post or two wrt geraintm where he had expressed a hard town read and then rolled it back the more he got into the post.

They shows more thought process than you...

@geraintm I think your case on Malcolm is going nowhere, who else are you considering to vote?

does it matter if you dont think anyone else is going to join me?

It surely matters if you're going to sit on a wagon nobody else is interested in pursuing to make it look like a committed town read because as Crescent has suggested it's a way for scum to avoid having to make miseliminations. If your read on me was solid I'd at least understand it but your scumread is quite frankly not very good and I think it's right for other players to begin to wonder what angle you're pursuing it from if you have little interest in eliminating anyone else.

I'm not going to jump to a wagon unless I think they are more likely to be scum. Its day 1, I'm happy with no elimination

Wut?? Since when no elimination in D1 is good for town???

Day 1 eliminations are more than likely to end in thr death of town - scum should be able to easily direct the vote to someone they want. Why give scum a free death? Why allow them to get claims out townies they run up?

And go into day 2 basically blind? There's no guarantee we will have an investigative guilty day 2. A flip is needed to provide some concrete information to base a solve off of unless you are a god at this game.

Not blind. I cut think of a game where town doesn't get some info night 1.
Plus, we have one more town player! And scum haven't been given any info of players forced to claim. I think townnwould do better

One flip isn't enough is what I meant. Especially a flip selected by scum. Also I'd rather have info from claims.

[KittyTacky]

I've seen Gera do this no elimination on D1 thing before but my issue at the moment is they weren't particularly bothered about it early on and appeared to be genuinely scumhunting, whereas now they seriously want to avoid us voting while we look to consolidate on Galron's wagon.

Given the short period of time we have left I think I'm content vote here. But town should obviously be careful as we'll be approaching hammer soon, think my vote is the 4th.

VOTE: Galron

VOTE: Galron

I veto gera, they play day 1 like this as town, they're at worst null, kill Galron today.

[KittyTacky]

Gera is always anti-town day 1 even if they're not scum.

[Crescent]

Um, so I might have a bit of a problem brewing. It was roughly 11:30 when I got to bed I didn't feel quite right. At 12:30 I woke up tremoring with a pretty high fever. I've managed to slowly get my temperature to settle back down a bit (the tremoring has turned more into twitching now) but I don't know if this is just my body totally spazzing out for a night when I'm exhausted or if this is only a portent for things to come. Light isn't bothering my eyes as much as it was so I felt the game deserved an update in case I fall off a proverbial cliff, but I'm not stopping to read anything right now.

[Shiidaji]

@Wayward do you maybe TR Kitty?

He's putting in more effort here than when he was scum in 2100. I wouldn't want to vote there Today.

Okay feel a bit like a kid with their Gameboy under the pillow rn but let's have a look through what's happened since fri.

[Shiidaji]

OK, but what in his ISO makes you feel Town him is a possibility? Serious question.

The way he entered the game and the way he's gone about "arguing" you suggests awful town to me more than it suggests scum, but I don't strongly read him in any particular direction (I also think he missed the mark with pointing out what in your ISO looked bad), and I would not seriously oppose voting him as he hasn't actually sold me he's an asset even if he is town.

Like, for example, NM was referenced earlier in this game. I would vote NM in a second if I got stuck in a game with him in a game, because I think he's anti-town no matter what the alignment of his role says.

I gotta get to Synagogue though.

I’m not anti town although I’m aware I’m not being super aggressive like I can be.
I gave my solve though so take it as you will.

You keep seeing things that aren't there. That post of Crescent was clearly not about you. The main problem I have with this is that I'm leaning to think you're town, but your play is lazy, and if you're truly town it would be nice if you double read.

Anyway. I quote this post because you said you can be super aggressive, and I think this game might benefit from that, so I would like to see your aggressive play.

Drapion do you think scum NJAC takes this approach towards you here? I don't, really!!

Oh yeah I'm here just haven't felt like playing.

UNVOTE: wayward was rvs. Probably voting Drap or maybe Malcom today.

Why Malcolm?

I'm not really seeing a process there. And there's a whole lot of "well you seem like you could be town or scum" and that doesn't really sit well. There was a post or two wrt geraintm where he had expressed a hard town read and then rolled it back the more he got into the post.

That's kinda how Malcolm plays as town. A bit wishy-washy.

Irrespective of Malcolm's alignment this post makes me lean Kitty town, I don't think scum would ever admit an out to someone for being wishy-washy, it's too good ammunition later down the line to push for a ML.

[Shiidaji]

actually it could come from kitty-malcolm team as a very direct form of defense but ehh. doubt it!