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[Greeting]

Votecount 1.8

OMI - Cheerleader (Felix Jaehn Remix)

(2015)

Commentary: My cousin hates this song. Back in 2015, when this came out, she went on holiday with her family to Portugal. They went on a 3 hour boat cruise on the Atlantic Ocean and this song was played on loop from the boat's speakers for the entire duration of the cruise.

Galron

(3): Salsabil Faria, NJAC, Shiidaji

Wayward Son

(2): Porkens, ProfessorDrapion

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

ProfessorDrapion

(1): KittyTacky

Not Voting

(4): MalcolmTucker, Crescent, Wayward Son, Galron

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-19 10:24:00).

Salsabil Faria

is on V/LA until 17th of September.

[Salsabil Faria]

Conftown: Professor (as no cc yet)

He claimed a backup Doctor, I don't see a cc coming. It sounds to me like an easy thing to fake claim.

Yeah, possible.... I usually get cold feet to eliminate someone who claim any role, in D1 specially. On the other hand, scum won't keep a TPR alive, so their claim will be cleared in D2 eventually.

[KittyTacky]

If anyone has any questions aimed at me, ask them.

What's your opinion on what I said that ProfessorDrapion's erratic behavior might not come from scum?

They could just be a weird townie but I think they have at least scum equity.

Oh look they claimed. While a backup doctor is an easy role to fake... I'll think about it some more.

UNVOTE: for now.

[KittyTacky]

I have a tinfoil theory. It's Professor and Porkens. (Assuming scum) Professor took a lot of time to defend Porkens. Porkens' "gut" vote on me is an attempt to start a different wagon.

It may be thin, but I see it.
VOTE: ProfessorDrapion

That’s super dumb.
I am town here.

But I’m ok with dying for the record.

Isn't "fine, kill me" a scumtell?

Don’t think so but I never said “fine, kill me”
I said “IDRC if I do die I’m fine with it.”

Sorry I misinterpreted it as the former, your phrasing was odd.

[KittyTacky]

Little impression of Kitty based on his posts on page 12 and successive Drapion vote. "Vote not final but" in post 300 sounds a little self-conscious coming from a direct personality like Kitty which is the only thing that stuck out to me.

Just because I am diect doesn't mean I should lie about how sure I am of my reads.

[KittyTacky]

If anyone has any questions aimed at me, ask them.

Wanna vote Galron with us?

After he answers my question.

[KittyTacky]

Oh yeah I'm here just haven't felt like playing.

UNVOTE: wayward was rvs. Probably voting Drap or maybe Malcom today.

Why Malcolm?

[KittyTacky]

POE: {

Galron

,

Porkens

,

Kitty

}

I'm town.

[NJAC]

@geraintm:
Do you think that what you said in 365 could apply to ProfessorDrapion's claim?

I had to go back and find thr claim, I hadn't noticed it.


Note for self" professor has claimed some odd roll linked to Doc

But yeah....does have the feels of "clever as a bag of hammers scum claim"

So you're saying that you're not focused enough on the game to notice his claim?

What's your current read on Professor?

pretty much. i have a tendency when catching up overnight to skip most of the posts and look for my name. if others had made abigger deal of it at the time i woul dhave been more likely to notice

Okay. Now please answer my second question.

[NJAC]

I'm also interested in who is Crescent going to vote, btw.

[NJAC]

@geraintm I think your case on Malcolm is going nowhere, who else are you considering to vote?

[Crescent]

Ok 2 1/2 days left and that war is finally over so my brain can start working ago. Votals don't feel like they've changed much. I noticed Shidaji moved onto Galron.

I then noticed Galron has... Exactly one post in the last 2 1/2 days, and it's questionable.

Oh yeah I'm here just haven't felt like playing.

UNVOTE: wayward was rvs. Probably voting Drap or maybe

Malcom

today.

Yeah but.. Why? Malcolm almost never appears in your ISO before this post, except for in #47 and #64, which aren't in any way calling him scum. It kind feels like you've played this game in "neutral".

There actually is one thing that kinda does stick out to me a bit concerning Malcolm in comparison to the other game I played with him, but I'm not going to feed you an answer soo~

Anyways I'll glance over the rest of the posts now.

[Crescent]

On a side note I already scumlean Gera. Based on my experiences with him, a specific thread of his behavior in this game is more likely to come from his scumgame. I'll go into details if people want me to.

[Crescent]

I'm also interested in who is Crescent going to vote, btw.

I've basically not existed in this game for most of it... Yep I'm not ready yet.

There are two people I don't trust who are both shading Malcolm though, and I do find that interesting. My next task is to nudge them both for responses.

Crescent, Geraintm, Malcolm, and Salsabil are my Town leans atm.

Lottsa Pedits Well, I'm here to find scum, so I hope to be "in the thick of it" (scum hunting) soon!

Another Pedit, nothing to say.

Question though: Why did you townlean me in the first place? I've been pretty close to inactive.

[Shiidaji]

Conftown: Professor (as no cc yet)

He claimed a backup Doctor, I don't see a cc coming. It sounds to me like an easy thing to fake claim.

Yeah, possible.... I usually get cold feet to eliminate someone who claim any role, in D1 specially. On the other hand, scum won't keep a TPR alive, so their claim will be cleared in D2 eventually.

Not necessarily D2!! but if it's a fakeclaim it could be disproved in multiple ways down the line so we table it for now

[Crescent]

The tinfoil hat theory for me at the moment is he actually is town backup doctor but the doctor he's backing up is scum. Pretty sure MNs allow for backups to be different alignments than the role they're backing up?

Last time I metaed something like that it was horribly wrong though, so...

[Shiidaji]

On a side note I already scumlean Gera. Based on my experiences with him, a specific thread of his behavior in this game is more likely to come from his scumgame. I'll go into details if people want me to.

Go for it.

[Crescent]

Also I just remembered the last time I saw someone voice suspicion of scum Gera day 1 they immediately got shot sooo....

Based on my experience with Gera, the way he has been loosely pushing on Malcolm for most of the day as the only vote on him feels like something that is more likely to come from his scum game. He's also voted the guy twice without even unvoting between those votes, which puts on full display just how long he's truly been at it. Heals hasn't contributed much outside of it.

This goes double if Galron or Wayward is scum, and it goes triple if Malcolm is town on top of that.

Scum Gera's favorite place is be is on a splinter vote that shows no signs of going anywhere, where he can nestle himself away and avoid the trains that actually matter. I called him out on this in 240 when I was zoning in on him, too.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I still like my solve (NJAC and Wayward)

[Salsabil Faria]

POE: {

Galron

,

Porkens

,

Kitty

}

I'm town.

[Salsabil Faria]

The tinfoil hat theory for me at the moment is he actually is town backup doctor but the doctor he's backing up is scum. Pretty sure MNs allow for backups to be different alignments than the role they're backing up?

Last time I metaed something like that it was horribly wrong though, so...

Oh yes, I completely forget about the fact that scum also can have doctor (

Professor

goes to my null-list). There was one game where all the 3 scums were doctor, can't remember if it was a normal game but total amount of players were 13, so most probably it was a mini-normal game.

But to answer to your question, I don’t think there is any mix-matched role available in normal games, never see one yet. Either

Professor

is a town-backup doctor or scum-backup doctor.

[Salsabil Faria]

Also I just remembered the last time I saw someone voice suspicion of scum Gera day 1 they immediately got shot sooo....

Based on my experience with Gera, the way he has been loosely pushing on Malcolm for most of the day as the only vote on him feels like something that is more likely to come from his scum game. He's also voted the guy twice without even unvoting between those votes, which puts on full display just how long he's truly been at it. Heals hasn't contributed much outside of it.

This goes double if Galron or Wayward is scum, and it goes triple if Malcolm is town on top of that.

Scum Gera's favorite place is be is on a splinter vote that shows no signs of going anywhere, where he can nestle himself away and avoid the trains that actually matter. I called him out on this in 240 when I was zoning in on him, too.

In that case will you consider

geraintm

signaling the scumteam to nk you in 25 as a traitor (if we consider we have a traitor in this 11 players game) or just signaling the scumteam as per wiki, scumteam don't know who is the traitor?

From wiki⇨

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

•is Mafia-aligned
•knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
•identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
•cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
•is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
•gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

[Salsabil Faria]

I still like my solve (NJAC and Wayward)

Do you read my 415?

[MalcolmTucker]

Ok 2 1/2 days left and that war is finally over so my brain can start working ago. Votals don't feel like they've changed much. I noticed Shidaji moved onto Galron.

I then noticed Galron has... Exactly one post in the last 2 1/2 days, and it's questionable.

Oh yeah I'm here just haven't felt like playing.

UNVOTE: wayward was rvs. Probably voting Drap or maybe

Malcom

today.

Yeah but.. Why? Malcolm almost never appears in your ISO before this post, except for in #47 and #64, which aren't in any way calling him scum. It kind feels like you've played this game in "neutral".

There actually is

one thing that kinda does stick out to me a bit concerning Malcolm in comparison to the other game I played with him

, but I'm not going to feed you an answer soo~

Anyways I'll glance over the rest of the posts now.

Is this anything I can help with? I believe this is only our second game together but I'd argue my last game might be about the weakest I played on the site in terms of effort - I just couldn't find my way into the game at all and it showed based on my play. Not that I'm usually some 4D chessmaster who puts in brilliant contributions but I'd say I'm more focused and engaged this game and have more focused reads.

[MalcolmTucker]

Also I just remembered the last time I saw someone voice suspicion of scum Gera day 1 they immediately got shot sooo....

Based on my experience with Gera, the way he has been loosely pushing on Malcolm for most of the day as the only vote on him feels like something that is more likely to come from his scum game. He's also voted the guy twice without even unvoting between those votes, which puts on full display just how long he's truly been at it. Heals hasn't contributed much outside of it.

This goes double if Galron or Wayward is scum, and it goes triple if Malcolm is town on top of that.

Scum Gera's favorite place is be is on a splinter vote that shows no signs of going anywhere, where he can nestle himself away and avoid the trains that actually matter. I called him out on this in 240 when I was zoning in on him, too.

I TR'd Gera very early on and I felt my logic was solid in doing so but I'm increasingly baffled by the nature of their push on me - they seem to be completely sold on the idea of me as scum on the basis of one post where I believed I was agreeing with what they were saying. Gera's issue appears to be that I agreed with them at all but are they really suggesting anyone who agreed with their early game-reads or with what they were saying is scum? Surely not.

I get it as an early gut-vibe type read, but the consistency with which one post by me has been used for the basis of a relentless push for elimination, especially when that push is going nowhere, is a bit odd. And if Gera isn't perhaps too confident about looking elsewhere I can see a world where as scum they'd hone in on a player unlikely to get voted out at the moment to at least look like they're giving committed and dedicated reads.