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I've gotten to the early-middle phase and you're just posting a lot of commentary on Dann/DP without really leading anywhere.-
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I think this was one of the parts of the game that I phased out.-
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Honestly though you describe your play as 'antagonizing the entire TL crew' when the reality is that they were all pushing for you and you were just responding to that, and then the DP/Dann posts that you say prompted DP to push you were just empty commentary about each other's pushes when you didn't even agree with either of them.
Come on now.In post 1650, Luca Blight wrote: I just fail to see that Darth's only conclusion following this is that I must be scum. There's no possible alternative here?
Like I've mentioned already, Darth's play is very predictable. I could see his vote on me coming before he did it. i could see his scumread of me coming before he said it. Dann knew this as well, which is part of the reason he scumread Darth in the first place.Only in some ridiculous gambit, yet this excellent 'town' player doesn't even consider the fact that I could actually be town here, defending my biggest townread?
As scum, would I really defend Dann to the extent I have here and make an inevitable enemy in a player who is supposed to be brilliant as Town?
I intend to vote Darth but have no idea what the VC is, so will hold off until then.-
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Even when you're not taking a stance you're still considering that your non-committal response to his case could end up creating a 'powerful enemy'
Compare that with the way I respond to DP's case on you.-
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It's not well considered. The main reason was from my interaction with him yesterday and seeing a lot of his name in Gob and now also Luca's ISO. (And I really wouldn't discount the possibility that Gob posted his real scum team.)
In post 4438, Grackaroni wrote:
Then why didn't you say any of that in the previous phase?In post 4435, Vivax wrote: I‘m not fond of the way Grack adressed Oats regarding HT‘s fakeclaim and all.
The way he reacted to said claim was one of the reasons I had him as town.In post 4452, Grackaroni wrote:
It is why I'm doubting you though.In post 4442, Vivax wrote:
Yeah, Vivax, why can‘t you just do everything at once ?In post 4438, Grackaroni wrote:
Then why didn't you say any of that in the previous phase?In post 4435, Vivax wrote: I‘m not fond of the way Grack adressed Oats regarding HT‘s fakeclaim and all.
The way he reacted to said claim was one of the reasons I had him as town.
I was busy with Luca and Oats and his zany theory about us being partnered.
When I played with you on mafia universe you were actively trying to get people to yeet me throughout the game. In the last phase you were placing me in teams, but you weren't trying to convince anyone to yeet me or even mentioning the things I was doing that you found scummy - and obviously I'm the front runner to be yeeted now and you mention this for the first time.In post 4455, Vivax wrote:In post 4452, Grackaroni wrote:
It is why I'm doubting you though.In post 4442, Vivax wrote:In post 4438, Grackaroni wrote:
Then why didn't you say any of that in the previous phase?In post 4435, Vivax wrote: I‘m not fond of the way Grack adressed Oats regarding HT‘s fakeclaim and all.
The way he reacted to said claim was one of the reasons I had him as town.Yeah, Vivax, why can‘t you just do everything at once ?
I was busy with Luca and Oats and his zany theory about us being partnered.
When I played with you on mafia universe you were actively trying to get people to yeet me throughout the game. In the last phase you were placing me in teams, but you weren't trying to convince anyone to yeet me or even mentioning the things I was doing that you found scummy - and obviously I'm the front runner to be yeeted now and you mention this for the first time.Yeah that‘s why my vote is on Luca Blight.
Anything else ?In post 4552, Grackaroni wrote:
I don't even know what the questions are. I got caught up replying to DP's attempt to bury me with his scum-motivated crap.In post 4550, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
Ask him to answer the questions!In post 4549, Grackaroni wrote:
Hammer please.In post 4547, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Vivax, if you answer my question in post 4453, I'll cast the hammer vote!
Don't get in the way of progress, Vivax
I do think Vivax was very shifty in his reply to me.-
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In post 4656, Grackaroni wrote: It's because I re-read some of the exchanges from the early pages.
DP was doing a good job of trying to build pressure on Gob right as I was entering the thread and I pushed him off it.
This post in particular I realized is very likely coming from the perspective of scum looking to defend themselves from town rather than the type of post scum makes while distancing.In post 408, gob wrote:
It wasn't really true. I was really just trying to post to 'charge myself up' so to speak, and also move the topic away from whatever was going on at the time since i deemed it not worthwhile.In post 405, DarthPunk wrote:
It may be a simple turn of phrase but was it true? If so, why were you posting for the sake of posting?In post 399, gob wrote:
It's a simple turn of phrase. You and Ninja are reading way too much into that.In post 391, DarthPunk wrote: Basically my case on GOB is that he openly stated he was posting for the sake of posting.
That is mafia 101 scummy. What can I say? I am a simple man, I see a scum claim, I vote.
I find it weird you choose to vote me over Roden though, trying to save Ninja?
I am not trying to 'save' anyone. I am trying to get the elim correct. I think Ninja also has a good chance of flipping mafia, but I want to elim the person with thebestchance of flipping mafia.
For me, that is posting for the sake of posting, cause I am posting to 'charge myself up' when in reality I could go 'charge myself up' doing something else IRL, but i instead chose to post in the thread. So from a certain point of view it was a selfish play since it was purely focused on elevating my play. That is why I described it was the terminology I did.-
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I would continue but it's getting super late and I need to sleep.-
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I don't think it's fallible.In post 4702, DarthPunk wrote: That’s fine I want to take time to figure this lynch out.
Grack you look 100 percent the worst by association with gob and hypothetically you are town, so in that case why would gob spew be interesting to you at all, as you know that it’s fallible.
I think people's ability to read it is fallible.
I think it's obvious that I wouldn't play the way that I have if I was partnered with Gob, but that's for you guys to discover.-
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Do scum never vote each other off on this site?
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Why not?In post 4747, Naerys wrote:
They do, but would she sit on her buddy wagon for that long?In post 4745, Grackaroni wrote: Do scum never vote each other off on this site?
Everyone seems to say that me having my vote on Gob on day 1 is indicative of scum leaving an easy vote on a buddy.-
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I think you just want to provoke a vote and hammer.In post 4749, Vivax wrote:
So where is the Grack vote?In post 4501, Hu Tao wrote: What's the votes at? I'm okay with vivax or grack. Don't see myself voting elsewhere
Grack opportunity. Hu Tao doesn‘t vote.
Vivax opportunity, she votes.
Fact: They aren‘t equal wagons to her-
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VOTE: Luca Blight-
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I mean going back to that post - am I really going to take my two partners {Hu-Tao/Gob} and put them as my top town as my entrance when nobody else shared those reads.
I would feel very iffy about making that post as scum and having to answer questions to it. I'm just a bad player lol.-
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My intent wasn't to list something scummy from Hu-Tao and then say she comes off as care-free/contributive.In post 4754, Vivax wrote: The But implies you were hedging to write a non-town reason, insted you decided to commit to a town reason in the sentence.
My guess is that this could be a language difference between German/English. In this case I was using 'but' as a neutral connective.
Point 1, but also point 2.-
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In post 2186, gob wrote:
I am against it, but not very against it.In post 2182, Hu Tao wrote: Okay who is very against a Luca elimination right now and why
I am thinking we go dunnstral here unironically. I still need to catch up though but the fact I haven't seen dunn post at all and can't remember any of their posts is a bad sign.-
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Around pages 89-95 I decided that I wanted to try to move the wagon towards Dunnstral.
DP - starts hard pushing Dunnstral and the wagon gains momentum with all four of me/OutofOrder/DarthPunk/Oats voting for Dunnstral.In post 2256, Luca Blight wrote: I just Iso'd Naerys and got absolutely nothing from it.
I'm looking through Dunn's posts now (I'm not finished yet), and I really don't feel great about how he began the game, talking mainly about theory and hardly engaging with anything else. I also didn't like this:
In post 798, Dunnstral wrote:
This is a good point.In post 793, outoforder wrote: In a similar sense, in case Ninja is actually town, Luca's "100% agree to that post" doesn't look good to me, because there is DEFINITELY stuff you should not agree with. It's just very easy thing to say as mafia in case you know it's actually a townie who wrote that post.
Because it wasn't a good point, in fact outoforder misread my post as I explicitly said that i disagreed with ninja on things such as the reasoning behind her oats read, and I would expect Dunn, as careful as he has been in this game, to pick up on that if he was genuinely trying to read me in this situation. Especially when Dunn mentioned/implied he only comments on posts he finds worthy. He also does nothing with this - it leads nowhere, and is never mentioned or referenced again, so he couldn't have believed it was that good a point.In post 2258, Luca Blight wrote:
There is a real lack of curiosity here from someone whose wagon built up suddenly and was almost hammered out of nowhere. Not just here but in general this game.
This seems overly simplistic from someone who seems to consider the game carefully. But what really pings me here is that again there is no follow up on this. It just feels like a token comment to seem as though he is analysing the wagon, while playing it pretty safe by not taking a hard stance on anything.In post 916, Dunnstral wrote: Hu Tao's vote feels survivalistic. I think they are voting me because I said I suspect them and are the largest wagon.In post 2262, Luca Blight wrote:In post 1019, Dunnstral wrote:
I was expecting some pushback from my read on them but they either didn't get there yet or didn't find it memorable.In post 981, Oatsmaster wrote: Okay so Roden came back vomited up some stuff and left, what are y’all thoughts about it?
Because it really wasn't memorable. Even reading through your Iso now I had forgotten about your early Roden suspicion, as it was phrased in such a non-committal manner.
Again, Dunn just enters the thread every now and then to seem like he is active, but it doesn't feel like he's actually playing the game in a genuine, inquisitive way.In post 2263, Luca Blight wrote:In post 1073, Dunnstral wrote:
To expand on my post, Dannflor would not be 100% sure that Vivax is mafia so is still capable of looking at things from a perspective where Vivax is town. That is why they are asking questions like that - because they are considering things from multiple angles. (Or if mafia, that's what they'd like us to believe. I do think they are quite good at mafia which makes it hard to townread them, which I believe is something they get irritated at.)In post 1018, outoforder wrote:
It's actually a bit weird he says this:In post 1012, Oatsmaster wrote:
he does say this right before but otherwise you are in his firmly town section in the reads list that he posted a while before this whole thing happened.In post 865, Dannflor wrote: I guess if I’m wrong on a town read in these three I think OoO is the most likely to be wrong?
idk just that masons wouldnt be the first place my brain goes to if someone yells dont yeet that dude
I mean, he has just expressed suspicion towards Vivax.In post 865, Dannflor wrote:In post 859, Vivax wrote: To be clear, my current pool would be Oats/Ninja/OoO but Ninja is more on a whim right now.
That said I appreciate that Naerys thinks similarly.
I guess if I’m wrong on a town read in these three I think OoO is the most likely to be wrong?
I feel increasingly solid about Ninja as town
Why does he care about who Vivax scumreads? Or like "if one of these three NEEDS to be mafia THEN it's this guy". Seems a bit out of place how to talk to your scumread.
This is very reasonable, but it does feel as though Dunn is using Dann's reputation as a good scum player to regard him in a fair yet non-committal way here. It basically means that we're never going to get a real opinion on Dann from Dunn this game, and that is just too convenient on a player who has been very much at the centre of things.
This comment isn't necessarily scummy in of itself, but for someone who has had so few reads and insights this game, it's like scraping the barrel.
For the first time Luca starts forcing lots of reasons for why Dunnstral is scummy - (while making sure to mention that he is not contradicting himself and that has not forgotten that he has said he liked his posts in the past. )In post 2265, Luca Blight wrote:In post 1329, Dunnstral wrote:
You are not really getting this. She is saying that you are indicating you have a strong opinion with your language, and that is part of her argument. She is not reading into your state of mind.In post 1145, Roden wrote:
Right. Why does town think scum has a "rock-solid opinion"? Scum just lies.In post 954, Dunnstral wrote: Roden she said you used language that makes it seem like you have a rock-solid opinion.
There's a lot of this from Dunn - playing mediator, clarifying misinterpretations, keeping up appearances while not actually adding anything new to the game or drawing attention to himself. I generally find this kind of behaviour scummy.
Again, if he was actually doing other things, then I have no problem with the above, but at this point in the game it's the only sort of content he is offering.
Again - this is the path of least resistance.
You give town reads to everyone until they start pushing you and then when it becomes clear that you need a counter-wagon you choose the person that looks like the most likely alternative and try to throw everything you can towards them. (Coincidentally in the same direction as Gob is also looking to re-direct attention)-
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You made a post that you weren't going to hammer and that town needs to take its time.In post 4759, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Yall are barking up the wrong tree with Luca. There's not a single scum team that includes Luca that makes any sense.
Yesterday he clearly had suspicions on both Grack and Vivax. Regardless of where he is now, that's where he was.
When Grack was at E-1, I said "intent to hammer", and he advised me not to. If he were teamed with Vivax, or literally anyone other than Grack, why would he do that? Grack was asking for it, pleading, practically, and Luca could have just let me kill a townie, but he told me not to.
Then the only logical explanation left is that he is teamed with Grack. Now you have to consider that Vivax was at E-1 this morning, and Luca could have easily pushed that wagon to completion, but instead he said, nah, let's not.
So that now leaves us with 0 logical teammates with him as scum.
The only thing that explains it adequately is that he's a sincere townie.
As it stands he's on track for an easy win and just needs to avoid doing anything drastic.
He's not going to draw attention to himself by rushing to hammer a townie.-
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After you write this post, there's no world in which mafia Luca writesIn post 4556, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Okay.
Well if someone is going to hammer you, it's not going to be me.
I'm deeply concerned that DP / Vivax are playing us. No way in hell is it smart to give them what they want so fast, if they are the scum team.
When you are tired, Grack, learn to rest, not to quit.
Get some sleep and let's sort this all out over the course of the day. No need to rush into such an early hammer.
I'm going to sleep.
"I disagree. Don't give Grack time to sleep. We need to hammer NOW"
It'd be an absolutely terrible look.
If I write off everybody that could have hammered me then the only possible scum team left for me is Nearys/Vivax.In post 4563, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4542, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
If that is really your claim, this gon be a real short day.In post 4539, Grackaroni wrote: HEAR MY CLAIM.
intent to hammer
Let's not rush this. Remember, you're probably going to be the night-kill and won't be able to influence the game further, so it's important we carefully consider everything now.
My son had an accident at school, so I'm not going to be on the the rest of the day. Hopefully review everything Tomorrow.-
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That wasn't me agreeing with the logic of it.In post 4768, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 4764, Grackaroni wrote: If I write off everybody that could have hammered me then the only possible scum team left for me is Nearys/Vivax.
Then why not vote Vivax?
There's a very real chance that Vivax is town. He came off very well in his back and forth with OutofOrder at the start of the game. It seems like the main reason people are pushing him is that he's chaotic and goes all over the place?-
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In recent times you've been playing more actively.In post 4640, Vivax wrote: Considering that you both know my lazy scum meta it‘s alienating that Grack would believe I was scum.
Mostly though I'm just impulsive and didn't like the way you went about pushing me today.-
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So did Oats and so did I with the role claim.In post 4770, SuperfluousNinja wrote: And he dodges questions and refuses to answer them on a regular basis. Don't forget that!
We're a stubborn group of people.-
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I lost my last game in melo and got yeeted pre-melo this game.In post 5402, Luca Blight wrote: I've come back to the site after a three year break and in both games lost in melo as town. Probably need another long break after this.
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LOL
Even higher than Chezinu playing as confirmed town.
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