Mini Normal 2333 | woah that's a lot of 3's | It's Gypover !
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Hi
VOTE: Political Clout-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
UNVOTE:
I like that Political Clout is trying to figure people out right from the start-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I got an error when I refreshed the page-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Nah, it's too soon for that. I need people to post more to figure out who sounds genuine and who doesn'tIn post 59, Political Clout wrote:
would you feel comfortable calling anyone leaning scum rn? why or why not.In post 52, BlackStar wrote: UNVOTE:
I like that Political Clout is trying to figure people out right from the start-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
So far I'm slightly leaning town on you and Penguin. Why are those people your town leans?In post 61, Political Clout wrote:
I think smiley, yessirre, kayjayqueue, and penguin bringing up the rear are leaning town for me. what about you?In post 60, BlackStar wrote:
Nah, it's too soon for that. I need people to post more to figure out who sounds genuine and who doesn'tIn post 59, Political Clout wrote:
would you feel comfortable calling anyone leaning scum rn? why or why not.In post 52, BlackStar wrote: UNVOTE:
I like that Political Clout is trying to figure people out right from the start-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
VOTE: Random Nurse-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I thought it was a bit strange that he said wanting wagons is sus. Then he started to defend PC hard as soon as people started voting for them. I don’t like it
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
@Random Nurse
Do you have any reads right now?-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
This quote chain just feel really defensive to me for some reasonIn post 107, Random Nurse wrote:In post 99, BlackStar wrote:I thought it was a bit strange that he said wanting wagons is sus. Then he started to defend PC hard as soon as people started voting for them. I don’t like it
OK, I'm going to give you a chance to clarify because I wasn't defending PC at all, and it starts to feel like you're mischaracterizing what I'm saying. Go ahead and show me where I "defended PC hard," BlackStar.
In post 89, Random Nurse wrote:In post 88, yessiree wrote:
Why so many questions random nurseIn post 87, Random Nurse wrote:In post 85, davesaz wrote:
PC's vote.In post 79, Random Nurse wrote: What's making you choose PC, Dave?
And?
Why don't you like me asking questions, yessiree?-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Sorry how do you do that?In post 112, yessiree wrote: personal pet peeve but could yall put giant quote walls in a spoiler
ty ty-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I agree
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I'm curious to hear the reasoning for this
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
In post 160, StraightFlush wrote:
I’m not experienced enough to speak in absolutes here, but it absolutely can be. Prodding readless people this early into D1 is a super LHF way to male yourself look like you’re doing something solvy, which benefits scumIn post 158, SmileyDude1 wrote:Spoiler: quote wall
Would you say that this behavior is AI though? Like do you think it's more just ineffective or more indicative of scum intentions in this instance?
I'm a little confused. What's the point of saying that something can be alignment indicative but might not be? If you don't feel strongly about it one way or the other then why mention it?In post 161, StraightFlush wrote: (yes I know the irony of my word choice in the first sentence, but you get the point I’m trying to make lol. Can’t say it absolutely is AI, but it can be)-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I didn't see post 136 so I wasn't sure why you were voting for himIn post 164, Political Clout wrote:why curious?
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Is Hu Tao's assessment accurate? Or did you have a different reason?In post 169, Political Clout wrote:
I think 136 just generates more questions than it gives answers for. Why did 136 answer your question or how did it.In post 166, BlackStar wrote:
I didn't see post 136 so I wasn't sure why you were voting for himIn post 164, Political Clout wrote:why curious?
Spoiler:
Edited for clarity-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Can you say what your reasons are?-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
VOTE: brian skies
The hostility in your posts during that argument felt kind of unnatural and forced. And I agree with Smiley's point about it being weird that you thought PC was blatantly rolefishing and didn't call him out on it until after the argument started. It seems sus-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
In post 282, Titus wrote: Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.
Is that a good reason to let someone go if they might be scum?In post 283, PenguinPower wrote:
good - this is his second game back in ages.In post 282, Titus wrote: Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Sorry, I misread that-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
That’s how I read it at first but when he said I was wrong I realized that he meant it was Brian’s second game back so it wasn’t a good reason not to vote for himIn post 322, Political Clout wrote:In post 283, PenguinPower wrote:
good - this is his second game back in ages.In post 282, Titus wrote: Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.it reads exactly how it's typed out
good - as in that's a good point it's a good post it's a good thing
it's his second game back in ages - correcting them and then repeating the sentiment.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Yeah, I think this is a good pointIn post 336, StraightFlush wrote:
I disagree with the premise of this vote. Nurse has been inactive for a while for unknown reasons to the point of a modprod, and we've had zero chance to see them catch up to important thread activities like the Brian wagon, the whole PC v. Brian thing, Titus actually doing stuff, etc. Not really reasonable to go here until he's engaged againIn post 335, Greeting wrote:
I thinkIn post 334, KayJayQueue wrote:
What do you think a better vote is?In post 333, Greeting wrote: Then again, I feel icky about jumping on theBrian Skieswagon, because I could very well see their posts coming from a townie perspective and also I feel icky about most people who already are voting them.Random Nursecontributed very little and I'm happy with that wagon building up. The posts I read while running his ISO seemed like he really had nothing to say even in the few times when he did post.
VOTE: Random Nurse-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
That’s called paranoia lolIn post 337, Political Clout wrote: ITT everyone is gaslighting me.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I never accused you of thatIn post 376, StraightFlush wrote:
Go read dave's 163 and the posts it references. As a correction, it was actually BlackStar that first suggested it but dave latched onto the idea quite quickly afterwardIn post 375, Political Clout wrote:
wait slipping on what?In post 373, StraightFlush wrote:
If dave and I are scummates, that was some pretty clumsy distancing from him earlier when he accused me of slipping for no reasonIn post 372, Hu Tao wrote: StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.
I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
If you think had to pick one person on the other wagon who you think is scum, who would you pick?In post 353, Political Clout wrote: you can't convince me this counterwagon isn't a scum one. I just need to find them.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
What brought this on?
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
There was a Random Nurse wagon before the PC one gained momentum. But you’re right that it feels like there hasn’t been that much movement. This game has been kind of slowIn post 408, PenguinPower wrote: these have been the same two wagons since start of game and the progression and silence just feels off to me. you don't usually end up limming the first wagon unless it's a flash wagon.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Can you post that game?In post 451, yessiree wrote:
interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between themIn post 436, SmileyDude1 wrote: Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.
i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, butpart of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Thanks. I’ll look over itIn post 461, yessiree wrote:
viewtopic.php?t=92350In post 459, BlackStar wrote:
Can you post that game?In post 451, yessiree wrote:
interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between themIn post 436, SmileyDude1 wrote: Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.
i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, butpart of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
VOTE: Greeting-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
In post 535, KayJayQueue wrote:
James Franco went 127 hours, we can make it!In post 533, Hu Tao wrote: 21 hours-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
You have yessiree listed as voting for both Greeting and Political Clout
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Out of the people on the wagon I'm the most suspicious of Penguin and Davesaz. But Random Nurse's post near the end of the day when they tried to hammer also felt weird to me-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
You flip flip too much and it seems like you just want to see anyone get limmedIn post 567, PenguinPower wrote:
Hi. I'm penguin.In post 556, StraightFlush wrote: and they also hopped on literally everyone who had anything resembling a wagon during the course of the phase.
Why do you feel good about me?In post 562, KayJayQueue wrote: I think I feel least good about Penguin, Titus, yessiree from the wagon. Still feeling iffy of Brian.
Same questions, but change good to bad.In post 565, BlackStar wrote: Out of the people on the wagon I'm the most suspicious of Penguin and Davesaz. But Random Nurse's post near the end of the day when they tried to hammer also felt weird to me
VOTE: PenguinPower-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Saying that you do that as any alignment isn't a good reason for me to trust you.In post 572, PenguinPower wrote: buddy - you can read my d1 inanyof my games and I do the same thing regardless of alignment. such a weak reason.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
In post 589, PenguinPower wrote: i mean - sure. doesn't change the fact that this is your progression and it was a bad end to the day:
In post 497, yessiree wrote: the speed of the Greeting wagon makes me think he's probably not scum hereIn post 526, yessiree wrote: Aight, Greeting can go ahead and claim
This does seem like a really quick turnaroundIn post 547, yessiree wrote: VOTE: Greeting
let's just get this over with
would rather not let apathy linger
Why?In post 590, yessiree wrote: And I'd do it agane!!-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I messed up the quoting-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
You've been saying for a while now that you scum read me, so why haven't you voted for me? What are you waiting for?In post 596, StraightFlush wrote: Good morning... or afternoon. I've been making progress on improving my sleep schedule lately but this was a setback.
Here's a full readlist:
TOWNREAD
StraightFlush
Titus
Brian Skies
TOWNLEAN
KayJayQueue
Hu Tao
NULL
Davesaz
MIXED
Random Nurse
Political Clout
yessiree
SCUMREAD
PenguinPower
BlackStar-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I still don’t understand why you’ve been saying I’m your top scum read for so long but you didn’t vote for me until I asked you about it-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
My bad. Usually when people list someone at the bottom of their list it means that they trust them the leastIn post 615, StraightFlush wrote: If you think I order my readlists by read strength, I don’t.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Yeah, that’s why I thought the scum read me the most. It seemed weird to me that it took this long for them to vote for me if they felt so strongly about itIn post 617, PenguinPower wrote: Regardless of order strength - I would assume that when you have someone consistently in your scum bucket for almost all of the game and write a blurb on why they are scummy...you would in fact, find them scummy so his point is a valid one.
Spoiler: quote wall-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Why is BrianSkies so high up?In post 627, yessiree wrote: Town
Brian Skies
KayJayQueue
PenguinPower
Random Nurse
BlackStar
davesaz
Titus
StraightFlush
Political Clout
Hu Tao
Scum
Anyway, where my head is at. I'm ok with limming any 1 of the bottom 3-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I’m also interested in finding out who his top scum read isIn post 635, PenguinPower wrote:
Would be nice if he answered those directed toward him before asking a paragraph’s worth of his own.In post 632, yessiree wrote: One question at a time buddy-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
VOTE: StraightFlushIn post 643, StraightFlush wrote:
You are now, why else would I be voting for you. Reading my SoD wallpost makes any other reading impossible; if you read back, you’ll notice that my objection yesterday was limited to you thinking it had been that way since D1 based on an ordering system that actually meant nothing.In post 642, BlackStar wrote:
I’m also interested in finding out who his top scum read isIn post 635, PenguinPower wrote:
Would be nice if he answered those directed toward him before asking a paragraph’s worth of his own.In post 632, yessiree wrote: One question at a time buddy
This whole conversation about me not being your top scum read but actually being your top scum read has been so weird and it feels like you’ve been lying. I don’t know what the motive is, but this doesn’t feel authentic at all-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
How is this bad faith? You claim to scum read me in multiple posts and have me at the bottom of your list but never put a vote down on me. The moment that I question you about this you finally vote for me but say that I’m not your top scum read. Then when I ask who your top scum read is you change your tune and say that it is me.In post 649, StraightFlush wrote: Dude this is a bad-faith reading of events and you know it, get the OMGUS out of my face. And you have the fucking gall to whinge about authenticity.
The best explanation I can think of is that you’re scum who was testing the waters to see if anyone was interested in wagoning me, but nobody seemed interested. I showed the inconsistency between your reads and your votes and you started panicking-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
In post 655, StraightFlush wrote:
Does 608-611 mean nothing to you?In post 652, BlackStar wrote: The moment that I question you about this you finally vote for me
Also I assume your nonsense is mainly based on my 614, but the only thing I say there is that I have never SAID you were my top scumread, not that you aren’t it currently. Even in my wallpost where I outline the case against you, I don’t actually say that and that should be worth noting. Your interpretation reads more like scum insecurity about how much you’re being sussed, to the point that you need clarification form me in order to adjust your behavior accordingly.
Can you explain what you meant by the bolded part?In post 556, StraightFlush wrote: Alright, time for some late-night wagon analysis.
Firstly, based on the lack of a counterwagon or ANY tangible resistance to Greeting's wagon after it formed, there has to be a heavy scum presence on it imo. If we're dealing with a 10-3 setup, two mafia are on that wagon minimum. I'm willing to be pulled off this theory later if the evidence points to it, but that's what I'm proceeding on for now.
Secondly, Smiley being chosen as the NK tells us quite a bit after reading his ISO. I don't really do detailed readings and note-taking for ISOs much but you can really get a good idea of where his head was at because he was so active. Great town player tbh, let's get on with the loose analysis
Titus: As the originator of the Greeting wagon and the one who really only talked about how much they wanted to launch Greeting past a certain point in the phase, the easy thing to do is point the finger at him. However, I think it's unlikely atp because of how they handled their post-VLA thread presence. They were the lowest poster by far and exclusively tunnelled Greeting past a certain point, which is extremely nooby scumplay and not something I'd expect from anyone in this game, not even myself. I think they were more convinced than most of us that PC/Brian was TvT, but remember that MOST OF US WERE WILLING TO BELIEVE THAT PC/BRIAN WAS TVT REGARDLESS. To the point that we turboed them with no CW. So it's hard to blame Titus for their position.
Me: I was the first to sheep Titus. I look sus. If you scumread Titus or me separately, this probably makes us look more sus. However, I maintain that I am town.
BlackStar: This guy keeps setting off alarm bells for me and this is the loudest one.He was not the FIRST to sheep Greeting, but the SECOND person, which is much better optics from a scum POV. He also didn't have any visible progression from sussing one of PC or Brian to being convinced enough about Greeting to turbo them MINUTES after the opportunity showed itself. His TP in general has also felt kinda sparse, like a lot of his interactions are just single posts spread out by about 12 hours to the point that he rarely ends up appearing in the same conversation more than once. Feels like scum trying to spread themselves out and seem more active/solvy than they actually are.
PenguinPower: Very hard to read for me, I think their thread behavior is broadly deserving of a scumlean because they were active during RVS then fell off slightly, and they also hopped on literally everyone who had anything resembling a wagon during the course of the phase. But their actual behavior within their posts makes them difficult to nail down. Not my first choice for a vote but scum!Penguin would fit kinda neatly into my hypothesis. Would be interested to see others' reads on this slot.
Davesaz: Null slot, not enough content despite no VLA. Some call that scummy in itself but he made vague references to being busy IRL so I'd leave it be for now. His few posted thoughts have been kinda scattered across topics and unclear with their intent (like with his allusions about the AIness of the rolefishing stuff and my alleged "scumslip"), so I can't really know where his headspace is at. True neutral, wouldn't be surprised at scum or town atp
SmileyDude1: He's fucking dead lmao rip
I'll go over the off-wagon stuff briefly but FUCKING HELL IT'S 2AM WHY DID I STAY UP TO WRITE THIS HALF-ASSED SHIT
Brian Skies/KayJayQueue: Lumping them together b/c my thoughts are simple. I think their stance on the Greeting wagon and how they handled it leans towny based on the idea that they smelled a rat and wanted to chase something else. Titus in KJQ's case, PC in Brian's case. Both valid scumreads. However this could also read as distancing depending on how obvious they thought town would find the scumminess of the Greeting wagon. Hence TLs, not TRs.
Hu Tao: As horrible as they've been about explaining their scumreads on myself and Dave, I was among the first on the Greeting wagon and Dave followed later. I can't be too surprised. Seems towny because scum!HT would know I'm town and have no reason to scumread and antagonize me after I defended them earlier in the phase. Can't speak to their behavior on Dave, they might just be naturally suspicious of lowposters or think the scumslip thing was sloppy distancing.
PC: My only reasonably strong off-wagon scumread. Smiley's ISO reads to me as someone who would be very dangerous to scum!PC: someone who isn't tunneling him or even actively campaigning against him, but always keeping him in the corner of his eye throughout the phase despite its many shifts. Read for yourself and you might disagree, but I'm not feeling as good about PC now. However his D1 behavior still felt towny to me, so I'll have to reconcile that somehow.
Not voting anywhere until I hear other thoughts, my vote habits will be terrible if I just focus on my own interpretation of the flips.
Oh I forgot about yessiree. Must ISO him. Too tired. Will do later, hopefully.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
So you believed that my actions were the scummiest but I wasn’t your top scum read? How does that work? Who WAS your top scum read?In post 662, StraightFlush wrote:
There were certain things I saw in D1 (outlined in post) which I felt could be scummy, and I felt that your behavior around the Greeting wagon was the scummiest of those things. Simple stuff. Anything else, officer?In post 659, BlackStar wrote: snip-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
And the name calling is uncalled for-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I’ve been really busy but I’ll try to get caught up later today-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I'm leaning town on JacksonVirgo so far. He's putting serious effort into trying to understand people and his frustration at StraightFlush dismissing his thoughts felt genuine-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
How much of the game have you read so far?In post 862, Enchant wrote:
I have no idea what i did why i didIn post 861, StraightFlush wrote:Your question and your action seem contradictory. Enlighten us as to your intent here.
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Didn't you call Titus defensive here?In post 878, StraightFlush wrote:Not really that defensive fmpov, and you choosing to call it out only makes me more sure I'm onto something with that observation. On the bright side, it probably gives me a reason to townread you even harder
In post 840, StraightFlush wrote: hmmmmmm. Actually, this is an odd response since Titus is one of the main people that it's been said I could be linked to.Seems strangely defensive to draw that conclusion in this context-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I’m glad you’ve seen the lightIn post 885, Hu Tao wrote: I'm also fine with a straightflush elim
There are just too many instances where he posts something and then directly contradicts himself later on. He writes them off as mistakes or misunderstandings but it feels like a pattern at this pointIn post 886, KayJayQueue wrote: Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
StraightFlush is prbably scum, so you got 1/3In post 902, Titus wrote:
Scumteam.In post 884, KayJayQueue wrote:
I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?In post 882, Titus wrote: Straightflush Blackstar +1-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I've played with Enchant before and they seem like being a force of chaos. It's hard to read them-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Are you gonna claim, StraightFlush?-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I feel bad about the StraightFlush lim. I was so sure that he was scum, but I really messed up. Sorry-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I have a theory about something, but I don’t have much confidence right now because I was so wrong before-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Well, JacksonVirgo made multiple posts where he expressed suspicion of Hu Tao. And now he’s been killed. So I can’t help wondering if he was onto something and Hu Tao wanted to shut him up.In post 992, KayJayQueue wrote:
If it’s not something that might out an asset to the town, I’d love to hear the theory. Sometimes 3 heads on a thought are better than 1. Anything could be helpful, even if we end up deciding it’s not correct. It still eliminates a possibility, you know?In post 991, BlackStar wrote: I have a theory about something, but I don’t have much confidence right now because I was so wrong before
That’s pretty flimsy though-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
I town read Titus. I’m unsure about youIn post 999, Hu Tao wrote:
Aldo why bring me up and not the person he was actually voting? SusIn post 993, BlackStar wrote:
Well, JacksonVirgo made multiple posts where he expressed suspicion of Hu Tao. And now he’s been killed. So I can’t help wondering if he was onto something and Hu Tao wanted to shut him up.In post 992, KayJayQueue wrote:
If it’s not something that might out an asset to the town, I’d love to hear the theory. Sometimes 3 heads on a thought are better than 1. Anything could be helpful, even if we end up deciding it’s not correct. It still eliminates a possibility, you know?In post 991, BlackStar wrote: I have a theory about something, but I don’t have much confidence right now because I was so wrong before
That’s pretty flimsy though-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
Who was bussing?In post 1010, Enchant wrote: Blatant bus
Get well soonIn post 1011, Titus wrote: I am ill. Vla today.-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA
-
-
BlackStar he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3629
- Joined: November 8, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: USA