But i actually don't care.In post 840, Firebringer wrote:Enchant, u realize that meg did the whole "idc if u scumread me" routine to? And that ur pretending to not care is actually looking very sus
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why would that beShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Why i should care about wolf boy putting one misarable vote on me.In post 842, Firebringer wrote:why would that be-
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that isn't whats relevant and i think u know it.
ur tone has done a 180 in the last 2 pages after i asked you a simple question and u go "i don't care" and ur whole "if ur mafia, yes" was like huge posturing right there.
U just did a huge shift and are like "i refuse to actually engage with u, and ur reason is "ur one person and i don't need to care about ur vote?" yeah thats not the point. if that was the point, you wouldn't need to respond to me at all.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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do u not care if im mafia here trying to push u as easy lim. U don't even seem concerned thats a possibility.
And u are engaging as you say "i don't want to engage".Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Ohhh so you do think im mafia. Lets go into that why don't we???
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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malculm first.
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want to convince me on why i should buss malcom?In post 849, Enchant wrote:malculm first.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Nah.In post 850, Firebringer wrote:
want to convince me on why i should buss malcom?In post 849, Enchant wrote:malculm first.
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also since when do u have the ego to make this post. it reads more like posturing/acting
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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enchant i don't know if ur intentionally trying to annoy me or if this question i asked really triggered ur decision just to be as unhelpful as possible
But i gotta say. Good job annoying me.
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hey pooky was worried about you. should i be?In post 827, Enchant wrote:It's possible.
Considering main goal of setup is "HEY THERE'S FOR SURE GUNSMITH".Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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and instead of just answering honestly like that, you gave a ridiculous answer that looked fake as hell.In post 854, Enchant wrote:It's dumb question "Are you mafia" in other way, they are annoying.
w/e ill drop it now. Think ur checked out from actually talking to me and I don't believe ur answers are ai anymore.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I would not make assumptions about what a closed setup is and whatnot, and even less would I treat them as fact and assume that the opposite is 'bonkers'. That's all I have to say on the matter of setup speculation.In post 830, Crescent wrote:
Because it's statistically the most likely PR town has given the setup. Claiming the role blind at the start of the day is absolutely bonkers unless they have a reason to think otherwise.In post 828, Firebringer wrote:
ummm its very easy to fake claim gunsmith as mafia.In post 826, Crescent wrote:
Only way he's scum is if he's actually "scum aligned gunsmith", or scum otherwiseIn post 823, Firebringer wrote:
Or you know....if bs is mafia. They are just faking being gunsmith. The idea they have to be gunsmith is weird idea to assume is the truthful part if you think could be mafia.In post 820, Greeting wrote:
Claiming Gunsmith is not automatically town indicative. There could be a mafia-aligned Gunsmith, and if there is,In post 818, Crescent wrote:Also Bugspray randomly claiming GS as scum to start day 2 would be insane why are they even on your list?bugspraycould be trying to gain towncred by claiming this and working with town.knowstown doesn't have a gunsmith, or else he gets instantly countered and slaughtered.
Between that and Fred countertraining him against Meg, I don't even have an interest in humoring Bugspray being scum at the moment.
why would scum assume town has a gunsmith here to counter?
Wait why am i going down this argument.
We both agree Bug isn't mafia. I should avoid pointless arguments
While my list could have been seen as PoE, truthfully it is not - it is just a list of players which I did not townclear. Regardless of whether he's a town-aligned or mafia-aligned Gunsmith, it is not worth our time to consider eliminating him, at least for the time being.-
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VOTE: MalcolmShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Run in fearIn post 856, Firebringer wrote:
and instead of just answering honestly like that, you gave a ridiculous answer that looked fake as hell.In post 854, Enchant wrote:It's dumb question "Are you mafia" in other way, they are annoying.-
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Well, my mind registered you as solely interacting withIn post 825, Firebringer wrote:
i am interested in what i have done that is shadyIn post 814, Greeting wrote:I suppose I could leave Firebringer and geraintm out for the time being. Although I am not very sure about these two, they have given me some stuff to townread them for, while the rest are all kinda shady.Pookyon Day 1 and that is behavior which I read as abnormal/not expected from an average townie.
I have never played with you before though so I read you at face value, unlikePookyorEnchant, both of whom I know from past games.-
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Do you think we have 4 scums then, as in 3 left? Or 6 scums and 5 left? Not sure how to interpret your answer.In post 816, Crescent wrote:
I've been led to believe that 4 scum in minis and 5 scum in larges is effectively a hard no here. In 2272 I immediately assumed 4 scum in the game and was shot down on that rather quickly.In post 814, Greeting wrote:So I just did an exercise where I took the names of all remaining players and removed the ones I'm townreading. Order is not relevant.
{Unsure,Firebringer,Fredrick A Campbell,Dwlee99,Lowell,bugspray,geraintm,UNOwen,Prince of Paterson}
I suppose I could leaveFirebringerandgeraintmout for the time being. Although I am not very sure about these two, they have given me some stuff to townread them for, while the rest are all kinda shady.Crescentmade a good observation aboutgera.
I overlooked that post but yes, you are correct in that it does point towards townIn post 773, Crescent wrote:Gera's last two posts of the day are not posts I see him making as scum. Gera doesn't naughty point someone for a hammer if he knows the guy is going to flip scum.geraintm.
{Unsure,Fredrick A Campbell,Dwlee99,Lowell,bugspray,UNOwen,Prince of Paterson}
If I am correct, all the remaining mafia should be amongst the remaining seven. If we had a 5-member scumteam then more than half of them are scum, and if we had a 3-member scumteam then it's almost half.
I have played one 13p mini which had 4 scum, but the host was criticised for it in the post-game when game ended early with a mafia win.-
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I don't know if this was intended to be a dumbtell, but I am having trouble believing that someone who early on was reading carefully enough to be noting down interactions as non-partnered and correcting the mod on votecounts would not notice who the nightkill was.In post 784, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I'm kind of thinking the reason I was townreading PookyTheMagicalBear is useless due to WIFOM.
VOTE: Fredrick
I agree with Crescent's thoughts so far for the most part. I think it's fine to trust her as town for now. I expect that she is a pretty good scum player who would be willing and able to control the game, but I think especially her frustration near the end of day yesterday at the lack of action feels uninformed. Scum would know that it could look bad in the face of an imminent scumflip. I also think that the somewhat shaky townreading of Lowell for being active near end of day is the specific brand of not quite rational play that comes from town, letting your emotional take on the game influence your reads.
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I tried to puzzle together the purpose behind this post.In post 797, UNOwen wrote:Adante = town.
My hesitation with Fred is that Lowell abandoned the Meg wagon for Fred just as it began to gather momentum, and then didn't return until it was clear the Meg wagon was serious. So it seemed like Lowell might have been trying to defuse the pressure on his buddy which obviously doesn't work if Fred is also scum.
Looking at Lowell's ISO it doesn't seem like one should assume that they wanted to defuse pressure. Both Fred and Meg were their scumreads and it looks like they were flexibly swapping between the wagons.
The post above implies a 100% scumread on Lowell considering that the purpose of that post seems to be at mostto townread Fred off Lowells presumed mafia-alignment, but nowhere else is there an indication of a Lowell scumread from Owen.
UNOwen claimed Malcolms hammer was bad and there's a decent wagon right from SoD, but didn't vote.
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The game of mafia seems at times like an escape room game with two teams that have to eliminate each other. In a way, it‘s a bit like the SAW horror movie.
That room you‘re in can heat up quite a bit in the process, if this was a room in SAW and people started to randomly try to slay each other, maybe one should ask around why there‘s a tree in the middle of the room that isn‘t trying to eliminate anyone.-
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