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going with the flow is a calculated play, I'm sure you can see that.-
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I wanna know how you got to a POE of either me or HPE just because we are 'causing chaos', which in my case must be the fact that I'm posting.-
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aaaa my favorite type of postIn post 1989, Black wrote: Gimli could be galaxy braining me but why does Kira!Gimli not just push HPE here? Continuing to solve beyond the obvious Kira suspect at this stage of the game seems ridiculously townie to me but also that could be exactly why Gimli is doing it. I'm getting town vibes from this StD thing. It's actually making me rethink the game a little
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bug and kira are quite similar, all you have to do is not get killed, and in both games you played exactly like this agreeable starfox lurky guy-
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your posting caused no impression there as well, thats what im calling lurky-
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I love playing mafia with youIn post 2004, HighPrincessErinys wrote:In post 1981, Gimli wrote: hpe is playing like a follower would, trying 1v1s, being loud, acting obtusely. I don't think that's how kira would behave.
This one is trying to 1v1 you because it firmly and staunchly believes you to be Kira you meatball. The way you keep trying to wrap everything around your finger, spinning StD as Kira and this one as their follower... It's an admittedly good play, Black's said as much, but the way you're going about it, your tone, and what you were doing BEFORE settling on that possibility, give the impression of absolutely zero good faith. You're very much trying to muddy the waters rather than simply go for the throat on an easy elimination (Not that you didn't try) because it gives everyone else the impression that you're some kind of town paragon making the biggest brained solve of all time or whatever the fuck, which of course seems to be helping your odds the way you're shaking up Black.
anyway we talk later-
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I love the way kawaii solves, it's so revigorating-
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im lock clearing kokichi post incoming-
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im clearing hpe from being specifically kira as well-
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Spoiler: reading into vanderspew
koki is never kira
hpe looks good cause vander pushed hpe
meg also looks okay
std and lorne feel more likely as the kira to how vander played the game.-
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actually the hpe push by vander is quite minimal, I'll re-check at some point to be sure it makes hpe less likely kira.-
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I'm sorry for questioning you mr kiraIn post 1091, Vanderscamp wrote:
Actually I do think I remember you saying this before, my badIn post 1033, Save The Dragons wrote: It's a tone thing it has to do with her zzzzzz and ..... posts coming from liberated town free to do what they want rather than scum that have to care about what they say
lmao I can totally see it-
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std is 100% scum, and the only one with this kind of equityIn post 2101, Black wrote: Yeah but just now... if you are telling the truth about being a follower... why would you not use that ability without the claim?
I say we just kill him-
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he could but the way hpe defended him is more like follower organically defending kira than the other way aroundIn post 2131, Black wrote:
Do you think he could actually be telling the truth? I don'tIn post 2128, Gimli wrote:
std is 100% scum, and the only one with this kind of equityIn post 2101, Black wrote: Yeah but just now... if you are telling the truth about being a follower... why would you not use that ability without the claim?
I say we just kill him
I think std just gave us wifom so we'd kill hpe instead
pedit: hpe keeps defending him, it is not kira
if hpe was kira it'd just accept killing std here-
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i mean you both played this completely face up, I'm surprised
but I'll take it...-
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std pushed me a fair bit this game and I think he voted me when my wagon was picking up
pretty much std/gimli is never a combination that works in any capacity-
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yeah he can do that as literal follower, but it would make no sense. I think he is kira and I'm happy to lose if I'm wrong-
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std/hpe relationship only works when hpe is follower and std is kira
and if hpe isnt kira, then std claimed for no reason. to help us catch real kira? in case it was like lorne/meg. he'd either let town kill him or let town kill hpe.-
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yeah actually there are situations where claiming follower as follower is against his wincon as follower. especifically if kira is lorne/meg, or someone outside of me/hpe, cause the flip was going inside (me, std, hpe) before he claimed. if kira is outside this pool, then claiming follower at that point as follower is working against your wincon.-
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gimli redemption ark imo-
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yeah its my bad re: malakittens
if hpe is kira then I'll get something else postgame ain't I lmao
but I think we got this...-
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yeah that's a very solid recap. so, let's win the game folks?In post 2213, Black wrote: Here's the timeline of StD's claim btw. He was under serious pressure here as a Kira suspect. This was his last hail mary.
Kira Fakeclaims Follower
#2014 - I say Gimli could be right about StD and declare my intent to dig through the thread
Spoiler: #2014
#2016 - StD immediately responds and asks me why I think it's him. He doesn't want me to go through the thread
Spoiler: #2016
#2019 - I tell StD that I just think it could be him and want to look deeper
Spoiler: #2019
#2020 - StD immediately responds and asks if I have any thoughts about the current Gimli/StD conversation. Definitely doesn't want me to go through the thread. Instead he wants me to look at a conversation where he's using a meta argument to towncase himself
Spoiler: #2020
#2041 - Kawaii says he will case StD after I asked him to
Spoiler: #2041
#2047 and #2048 - Meg says there is room for StD Kira and puts him in her Kira PoE
Spoiler: #2047, #2048
#2059 - Gimli narrows down his list of Kira candidates and basically reaches the conclusion it's StD
Spoiler: #2059
#2061 - I make my associative case between Vander and StD
Spoiler: #2061
#2065 - I break down HPE's case on why StD can't be Kira. Keep in mind that HPE has walked back most of this case of his in recent posts. Strong indication HPE is StD's follower
Spoiler: #2065
#2067 - I vote for StD
#2068 - StD immediately responds and starts the counterclaim process. He was reading along as the pressure grew right in front of his eyes
Spoiler: #2068-
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I'm hanging out here for a bit if you wanna discuss this meg
I think HPE is voting std as a gambit. it'll unvote and do theatrics before we reach deadline, I'm sure.-
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'I thought this over and I think it's just gimli!!!'-
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note that HPE itself is talking about grace period. it knows what its doing.-
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well, as long as you're not kira-
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like hpe I think you can be town but even std thought you were a follower right now
I can see meg being std's follower instead actually, let's see how she evaluates things.-
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all I expect from NM is hammers-
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@Not_Mafia I summon thee-
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you hammer and the game endsIn post 2232, Not_Mafia wrote:Sup-
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so someone that isn't HPE and that isn't STD has this ability and decided to use this ability
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well we have another day to talk it out I guess lol-
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if std is a follower the only people I think he spews as not kira are me, kokichi and kawaii I think
I think the way HPE played is not kira-esque
I think Meg has good interactions with vanderscamp in the sense that it being possibly not his kira
so if std is just a follower, his kira is NM lol
but I don't think std says he is a follower unless he is kira, or unless he is trying to save kira!hpe from the kill
I think he says he is a follower as kira for complete WIFOM
unfortunately for std's plans as kira, that means he is the only player in the game with 100% scum equity, and that gives him the highest possible kira equity itg for us-
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the idea of claiming follower is only reasonable from a kira!std standpoint. I'm convinced that nothing else makes sense. it doesn't mean it didn't happen.-
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we know for a fact that this ability was not used by kira
NM what's your ability?
meg what's your ability?-
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if this ability was used by kira, it makes no sense cause its gamethrow, since the std flip serves kira's wincon
std can't have the ability himself cause he already had another ability
hpe can't be the one with the ability since she already has another ability
I rly hope it wasn't kawaiikame but whoever did this is confirmed not kira-
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there are some odd implications at play
if kira holds this power, then it'll save a traitor.-
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I think it's possible that HPE is town.-
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you don't think kira receives a skill?-
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I had clingy
ofc I'm not the one who did this-
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He hardclaimed scumIn post 2277, Kokichi Oma wrote: HPE went from hard townread on StD to just voting him no problem which i find interesting-
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If NM is follower then the ability would set off for std kira even if NM didn't send it in-
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YupIn post 2282, Black wrote:
Yeah but HPE's initial reaction to StD's claim was that he's lying lolIn post 2278, Gimli wrote:
He hardclaimed scumIn post 2277, Kokichi Oma wrote: HPE went from hard townread on StD to just voting him no problem which i find interesting
Well anyway VOTE: std-
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if NM has this ability, I don't think he uses it.
if meg has this ability, I think she might use it, but not coming here to say anything afterwards is bad.
if either is kira, the ability wouldn't be used.
if either is a follower and std is kira, the ability is used automatically.
either way, whoever used the ability is not kira.-
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are you town?In post 2292, HighPrincessErinys wrote: That makes a bit more sense.-
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it doesn't matter we flip std regardless
but you might be town and meg or NM being follower-
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I'm coming around to hpe town tbh
the 'dont bullshit me' post is really townie push
but I think even std was like 'shit my follower outed me' lol and then did what he did-
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the best way to pressure kira is by hard defending him lmao-
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yeah it goes automatically even, if meg is traitor-
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'follower'-
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meg really disappeared didn't she
I think she is the follower and there's no reason to try in this game anymore-
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hi can you vote std so this game will finally end?In post 2256, Kokichi Oma wrote: Who did that ability?-
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you must understand he is 100% scum, yes?In post 2315, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I don't see the motivation for him to do it as Kira when only 2 people suspected him.In post 2312, Black wrote:
So you think StD claimed follower because he was bored with winning the easy way?In post 2310, Kokichi Oma wrote: VOTE: HPE
I'll vote who I think it is, that way if we lose it's not on me
if he is the follower to HPE, why would he claim follower when, if we believe that he is follower, we might vote hpe out instead of him?
I also don't think the way he interacted with HPE makes sense if he is not willing to vote HPE this gameday?-
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why would he prove himself as not kira if he is a follower, koki? the follower doesn't want to take himself out of potential kira candidates!
also you must realise that the power that removed std's hammer, if it came from scum, came from kira's follower. kira would never trigger it! that's one less person that can be kira!-
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I can maybe see it potentially being hpe? but like, let's end this madness. no one else is getting flipped today.
do it kawaii take us to postgame-
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if its hpe, and std thought he had an ability that literally meant he is not kira as a literal follower of hpe, why the absofuckinghell would he use it?-
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IF HE THOUGHT HIS ABILITY ACTUALLY MEANT HIM NOT BEING KIRA
THEN HE'D BE OUT OF CONTENTION FOR BEING ELIMINATED
WHICH WOULD MEAN WE KILL HPE NO????-
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you think std thought his ability meant an inno from him being kira, but if he thought that why would he use it as a follower? wouldn't we just kill hpe if that was the case? or something?-
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this is a post I'm townreading hpe strongly off of and I'll note that it's a bad position to take if hpe is kira. it could just consider std as a possibility instead of staying in its tunnels.In post 2004, HighPrincessErinys wrote:In post 1981, Gimli wrote: hpe is playing like a follower would, trying 1v1s, being loud, acting obtusely. I don't think that's how kira would behave.
This one is trying to 1v1 you because it firmly and staunchly believes you to be Kira you meatball. The way you keep trying to wrap everything around your finger, spinning StD as Kira and this one as their follower... It's an admittedly good play, Black's said as much, but the way you're going about it, your tone, and what you were doing BEFORE settling on that possibility, give the impression of absolutely zero good faith. You're very much trying to muddy the waters rather than simply go for the throat on an easy elimination (Not that you didn't try) because it gives everyone else the impression that you're some kind of town paragon making the biggest brained solve of all time or whatever the fuck, which of course seems to be helping your odds the way you're shaking up Black.-
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yeah I agreeIn post 2341, KawaiiKame wrote: I'm failing to see any evidence that HPE is Kira,
Feels genuinely solvey, same with the 1 v 1 with Gimli, HPE feels townIn post 1796, Enchant wrote:We interrupting night news, because there's important message for us to show:
Spoiler: Public Announcement-
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go kawaii-
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