the mech makes things harder for me to parse but maybe it's just getting in the way
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i think on play it's still really hard for me to imagine a world where this isn't scum!catgirls
the mech makes things harder for me to parse but maybe it's just getting in the way
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ydra can we talk sometime
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for me i guess trying to figure out second wolf is occupying a large portion of my mind so i was wondering what your thoughts were on that. since for me i think who that could be affects my read on the 1v1 so in my reading im giving it the same importanceIn post 2879, Ydrasse wrote:
it’s probably marginal concern right now i’m a little troubled by all of the slips and strange thoughts like about the 1v1 but idk. at a certain point i do have to figure out a second wolf so ehhh?In post 2878, Sunflower wrote:what's up with your read on us
rereading i’ve been more focused on the cc slots. had a whim to vote outside of it for a while but then no one is apparently dreamer anymore oopsies
also i think one of your heads did a large post in twilight that i felt was sort of case-y or narrative-y at times but other than that i’m a void
i think also it's fairly easy for my brain to want to fill you in as a scum partner here particularly when you're not as forthcoming with your thoughts, but if you are town then i think i am probably better able to find that through direct engagement
i also idk i just think you can read me if you're town and i think you as wolf would benefit from having your read on our slot be in a nebulous state so i would like it to be de-nebulified if possible
i did make a large post that was case-y and narrative-y but that was bc i felt like i needed to bc scum killed all the case-y town people and so i thought we were gonna just run over
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these are substantially different situations. the catgirls split you were right i think, that was scummy because it benefits them heavily, alisae could hard push kyoko and then after a townflip maria can show up and push the other sideIn post 2880, Von Payne wrote: I think Jupiter and fire being on opposite ends of the Catgirl/Silver Ravens 1v1 is hella scummy. Much like Catgirls' split on the Von/Kirigiri 1v1
It feels like fake dissonance being weaponized for an agenda
here that benefit pretty obviously doesn't apply. can you elaborate on your thought process on what the agenda is that you think the dissonance is being weaponized for?
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like idk i think if we were scum here then i would be fully informed of the gamestate and i would know what the ideal path to victory here is and i would have been planning how to reach that for a while
i can't really think of a world where dissonance in this situation would help with that possible plan so im not sure what makes you think that it would
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okay yeah idk i understand the struggle of it
i think i felt most grounded in the game on day 1 and then since then it's been hard. finding town confidently here especially has been hard for me
if you have any questions or anything that you think would help then lmk
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In post 2879, Ydrasse wrote: at a certain point i do have to figure out a second wolf so ehhh?
rereading i’ve been more focused on the cc slots. had a whim to vote outside of it for a while but then no one is apparently dreamer anymore oopsies
these feel like different mindsets to meIn post 2886, Ydrasse wrote: i guess i see it as like two teams or something but even then the hydra dissonance makes it not so neat and that’s ick and just
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maybe im misunderstanding then idk
what do you mean by two teams
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i guess i thought that if you were sorting the game into two camps then sorting among the others can help resolve the 1v1, so reading for both can be useful. and also resolving the 1v1 points you to where the second wolf is so the "i guess at some point i have to find the second wolf" didn't make sense to me with that mindsetIn post 2891, Ydrasse wrote: fmpov it broadly was aligning as you/catgirls vs payne/ravens (i do not ever vote enchant this game probably) but it’s more muddled than i thought. that the game would fall into two camps makes sense to me if there is a double voter in play where you can Almost always brute force if things work out well the day prior
but if it's more muddled then maybe not
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i also felt unsure that would come from a wolf and that was a big part of me having doubts thereIn post 2892, Ydrasse wrote: oh another random thought is that i’m p uncomfortable with wolf catgirls posting what they did today and thag was why i was slightly leaning town on them but i think that it could be wolf frustration too at not being able to do the doublevote today
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both of you initially said that you didn't control where enchant's reporter went?
i don't get how that's a lie
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if you had to guess then so did they. you said the same thing
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In post 2626, Silver Ravens wrote: We also did not get a choice for the second dream, what Enchant did with the ectoplasmic camera and the reporter dream on moonrise 3; but from the looks of things, that is possibly separate from the hijacking; the reporter dream was revealed and went into effect immediately with no time for anybody to make a selection before the mods moved on to the starting the day.In post 2683, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: oh that
i msg'd ffery about that as soon as I found out and it turns out I had nothing to do with itthese are the same thing and ravens said it first
what are you saying that you had to "blatantly guess"?
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i think it's hard to know why the dreamer would be kept alive without knowing the specifics of how the scum power works. but either way the dreamer is alive, so i don't really get why it's relevantIn post 2909, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Are you skipping over the why is Silver alive part on purpose or?
i think that exaggerating something into calling it a lie and clearing for you when it seems to be neither of those things is not something that you would feel the need to do here as town so i am more interested in that
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enchant confirmed that it went to ravens so ravens would know where it went regardless of their alignmentIn post 2912, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Doesn't the wolf in the situation not understand where it went or am I missing something here? I get enchant claimed publically
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if they have a dream hijacking power that seems like the reason they would want the dreamer alive, and would explain rule 14?In post 2914, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
We know that scum is hunting the dreamer and that they probably want the dreamer dead (see rule 14 in the set) I don't see why scum would just keep the known dreamer alive in the world Silver is building and the answer is that world doesn't exist. How is this not seen as relevant to you?In post 2913, Sunflower wrote:
i think it's hard to know why the dreamer would be kept alive without knowing the specifics of how the scum power works. but either way the dreamer is alive, so i don't really get why it's relevantIn post 2909, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Are you skipping over the why is Silver alive part on purpose or?
i think that exaggerating something into calling it a lie and clearing for you when it seems to be neither of those things is not something that you would feel the need to do here as town so i am more interested in that
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????In post 2917, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
When was this?In post 2915, Sunflower wrote:
enchant confirmed that it went to ravens so ravens would know where it went regardless of their alignmentIn post 2912, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Doesn't the wolf in the situation not understand where it went or am I missing something here? I get enchant claimed publically
isn't this what you said they were lying about?
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we don't know how the hijacking power works
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In post 2686, Enchant wrote: Okay so.
Mod said i should give this thing out as i used camera.
I gived it to Ravens (don't ask why i did).
i don't understand what you've been saying this whole time that ravens lied about if you're now saying you didn't see thisIn post 2687, Silver Ravens wrote: Nah we got it Enchant. We were waiting to see if you would claim that or not, and if Von Payne's claim would contradict our results when it came to their turn to claim. We thought we were confirmed town at start of the day, and then Catgirl Chipotle cc'd and we wanted to see what they had to say about the reporter and if they would get caught in a lie.
Reread what we wrote, we didn't say we didn't get it, we said we didn't choose who it went to. We did use our ability on Von Payne and saw that they went nowhere.
explain pls
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where did ravens claim that they didn't know where it went?
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even if it did say that (it very clearly does not), i don't get why they would lie as scum since scum!ravens would still know that they had the reporter
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as far as i can understand (and my brain is small for the record), both of what you two have claimed is mechanically plausible
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balance-wise idk but like the claims seem to check out to be generally believable
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what does this meanIn post 2956, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: So if we knew it was you then the mafia would become the dreamer way sooner than that.
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they actually didn't, she called you mafia coming into the day and then got caught up in the von payne claim situation and ended up 1v1ing there insteadIn post 2968, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
They said Von first but go offIn post 2965, Silver Ravens wrote:
They also called you mafiaIn post 2963, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: And remember the dead villager that called out Von for being fake and we got rid of sadly.
i reread all of this pretty thoroughly and the day felt like it was starting as a kyoko vs catgirls 1v1
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it's saying they didn't choose where the 2nd watcher (enchant's) went
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this is literally the same thing that you said you should be cleared overIn post 2981, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: There's so many holes and those holes are stuff they don't know so they just said "oh we didn't get a choice"
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idk if there's any point to this tbh it keeps going in circles
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In post 2987, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: You can vote us if you think it's us I would be happy for this game to be over I'm only here out of respect for the dead villagersOKOK BET
fire said he thinks it's literally always you and i trust him so
get blammed!!!!
blasts you!!!!!!!!!!
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i don't think jupiter was expecting that to be a hammer
for the record i did not expect him to vote although i was probably always going to land there eventually
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i didntIn post 3016, Enchant wrote: Team is Silver+Sun.
Sun wouldn't knew it was hammer If not doublevote.
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was there a hidden double vote? i don't get it
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i think this was planned to try to make whichever town ended up voting catgirls first look bad
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that is just something he says lolIn post 3025, Enchant wrote:
Literally screamed BLASTING YOU.In post 3024, Sunflower wrote: i didn't know it was going to be a hammer, it shouldn't have hammered
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BECAUSE THATS WHATI DOIn post 3025, Enchant wrote:
Literally screamed BLASTING YOU.In post 3024, Sunflower wrote: i didn't know it was going to be a hammer, it shouldn't have hammered-
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still my bad i guess
i really thought it was catgirls
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whatIn post 3030, Enchant wrote: Nice habit.
Haha gg ez i was scum what you gonna do, vig me?
Haha stupid townies?
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it has to be von payne i think
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i wonder if it just auto triggers when someone gets put at e-1
that would be really lame
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btw if we were scum we would have done that back near the start of day when there were two votes on catgirls
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its my fault not jupiter's i told him i was confident
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enchant feels like the towniest enchant ive ever seen
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like enough even to override me scumreading gimli every time i come across one of his posts again
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im not sure if i could have honestly
i should have maybe but i think i just really wanted to believe that wolves were in control of the gamestate
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In post 3050, Ydrasse wrote:
i think this bothers me mostly because it falls into a line of play of theoretical wolf that's like "jupiter has been told to really sell up the energy and naivety and zest and the silly slips over and over"In post 3047, Ydrasse wrote: gut instinct is that sunflower is the partner but like idk
the hammer was very nasty in how it passed off responsibility but i cn see jupiter doing that i guesswdym zest
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wdymIn post 3047, Ydrasse wrote: gut instinct is that sunflower is the partner but like idk
the hammer was very nasty in how it passed off responsibility but i cn see jupiter doing that i guess-
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oh ok i thought you were calling me zesty-
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fire is my better half how could i not trust himIn post 3065, Ydrasse wrote:
"i trust fire!" and absolve responsibility by playing into aforementioned energy is a possible wolf stratIn post 3063, Sunflower wrote:
wdymIn post 3047, Ydrasse wrote: gut instinct is that sunflower is the partner but like idk
the hammer was very nasty in how it passed off responsibility but i cn see jupiter doing that i guess-
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In post 3068, Sunflower wrote: oh ok i thought you were calling me zesty
these posts in sequence made me laughIn post 3069, Sunflower wrote:
fire is my better half how could i not trust himIn post 3065, Ydrasse wrote:
"i trust fire!" and absolve responsibility by playing into aforementioned energy is a possible wolf stratIn post 3063, Sunflower wrote:
wdymIn post 3047, Ydrasse wrote: gut instinct is that sunflower is the partner but like idk
the hammer was very nasty in how it passed off responsibility but i cn see jupiter doing that i guess
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Ydrasse wrote:you do understand how convenient that is right like youre not dumbi am merely jesting
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well it isn't usIn post 3082, Enchant wrote: It may be possible Von is mafia (with Von idea of voting to "check" double vote), but for real i don't buy it.
If it's Ydrasse. Well. It's not Ydrasse.
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if we lose this here it's on me, sorry
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