TemporalLich's Grandest Idea uPick [Game Over]

ZZZX · Post Post #57 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:31 am

Hey hey, will read and comment soon, just wana make my presence known

Also

VOTE: bbmola

Hey, been a while

ZZZX · Post Post #58 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:32 am

In post 55, Not_Mafia wrote: I submitted the following 4 roles

In post 11655, Not_Mafia wrote:
Town Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11656, Not_Mafia wrote:
Mafia Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11657, Not_Mafia wrote:
Werewolf Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11658, Not_Mafia wrote:
Alien Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start
I am a VT

If I had to bet 5 bucks whether you sent those roles or not... well, lets say that I truly believe in you

ZZZX · Post Post #162 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:02 am

In post 59, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 57, ZZZX wrote: Hey hey, will read and comment soon, just wana make my presence known

Also

VOTE: bbmola

Hey, been a while
Am I delusional or are you voting someone not on the playerlist?

No, i think simply the last week of work is finally taking its toll on me..

ZZZX · Post Post #163 (isolation #3) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:08 am

In post 68, Itinerants wrote:
In post 59, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 57, ZZZX wrote: Hey hey, will read and comment soon, just wana make my presence known

Also

VOTE: bbmola

Hey, been a while
Am I delusional or are you voting someone not on the playerlist?
BBMolla is the creator of the Grand Idea Thread. It is a joke vote. Probably. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a role or two in there that allow for such an elimination, but I doubt we're actually looking at one as of now.

-Rat

In post 101, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.1iamveryhappy (3) - Itinerants, camelCasedSnivy, DragonEater70
BlueSnakelet (1) - Cook
Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - iamveryhappy

Not voting: Invisibility, BlueSnakelet, DkKoba, MegAzumarill, Arko, patchwork, Flavor Leaf, Radical Polaroid, Nono, Guillotina, ZZZX

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

bbmola is not a valid vote as bbmola does not correspond to a player in the game.

Sorry! And well, you have more trust in me than I had in myself haha.

NM is likely town, or so my gut says. Donno, been a while.

Dragoneater with as many posts as everyone else combined.. I didn't play with him afaik so i donno what kind of tell it is, a teeny bit annoying though. A bit too much role-analysis and baiting for my liking. so I will park my vote here for now.

VOTE: dragon

ZZZX · Post Post #165 (isolation #4) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:13 am

Also, just calling out anyone who either didn't post at all or had one post only, give us your thoughts, there is enough content in the game to have an actual thought next and not just a random post.

Zero posts:
Arko
patchwork
Radical Polaroid

One posts:
Cook
Flavor
Guillotina

ZZZX · Post Post #167 (isolation #5) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:14 am

In post 164, DkKoba wrote: zzzx locktown never rescind

Very random thought, I was very, VERY sure we played together, yet looking at your previous posts it doesn't appear so. I am extremely confused and considering if my memory is failing a bit faster than planned

ZZZX · Post Post #170 (isolation #6) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:16 am

Nono*

Look... I am... extremely tired. Ok?

ZZZX · Post Post #171 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:16 am

In post 169, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 163, ZZZX wrote: Dragoneater with as many posts as everyone else combined
Yeah that's why I wanted to stop posting but I just can't

I am addicted and this is not a joke

Been there buddy, been there.

Good old chat mafia days never stopped leaving their mark

ZZZX · Post Post #188 (isolation #8) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:17 am

In post 177, Flavor Leaf wrote: Long time no see, ZZZX, it’s me, Boonskiies.

Oooo, long time bud! How have you been?

And yea, been on a site-wide hiatus while dealing with life, and one thing let to another and here I am back haha

ZZZX · Post Post #194 (isolation #9) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:20 am

Alright people, chill.

I don't particularly care if you want to shoot in the day Leaf, just don't do it before we get everyone talking. Also lets not get into an arguement that will make me read 15 pages when I wake up

I do think both Flavor and DkKoba are town, but not a strong read

ZZZX · Post Post #197 (isolation #10) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:22 am

In post 196, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 194, ZZZX wrote: Alright people, chill.

I don't particularly care if you want to shoot in the day Leaf, just don't do it before we get everyone talking. Also lets not get into an arguement that will make me read 15 pages when I wake up

I do think both Flavor and DkKoba are town, but not a strong read
I’m in big playful mode rn

To be fair, you are always in a big playful mode from my memory, and so I usually was xD

ZZZX · Post Post #200 (isolation #11) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:25 am

In post 198, DkKoba wrote:
In post 192, Flavor Leaf wrote: Im just trolling you Kkoba
Well the context I added earlier its not my first time being threatened with a dayvig on day 1 in a game and being shot so its more tiring than frustrating at this point.

Subject: Anything uPick (Endgame)

In post 1291, RadiantCowbells wrote: In an explosion of cosmic proportions, Toogeloo obliterates DkKoba!

DkKoba was
XrCyclone
.

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome, DkKoba. You are XrCyclone, Obvious Cheater. You are a Helper-Requesting Cheater.

I claim random informed role that I have no way of knowing about!

Thought (Helper-Requesting): Each night you may target a player not in the game, inviting them to be able to discuss the game with you.
Cheater! (Cheater): You may discuss the game during days and nights with every player who accepted your invitation until the end of the game.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Toogeloo was
Gamma Ray Burst
.

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome, Toogeloo. You are Gamma Ray Burst, Strongman Exploder

If you've seen one gamma-ray burst, you've seen one gamma-ray burst!

Supernova (Strongman Exploder): Once per game during the day you may target a player and explode both of you, targeting both of you with a strongman kill.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Ordinarily protocol is to reset the votecount, but I will not bother since no one is close to any lim thresholds.
Subject: Micro 1007: Chess Mafia Game Over!

In post 502, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Game Event:

DKKoba has been shot

DKKoba was a White Pawn

the vote count and deadline have been
reset

Oof.

The first one especially hurts. To be honest, if I had a no-constraints day vig, I'd just fire it at some point, but a dual-elim vig? Thats painful. Interesting role for that game though.

Anyhow, I will be sleeping now, please don't have 20 pages up by the time I wake up, I am still rusty and unable to deal with that yet xD

ZZZX · Post Post #358 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:31 pm

In post 261, Guillotina wrote:
In post 258, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 256, Guillotina wrote:
In post 254, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 253, Guillotina wrote:
In post 251, Flavor Leaf wrote: Lol, just ISO’d Guillo

I have a hard time believing anything in their ISO is genuine, but I also low key think it is
Are you gonna shoot Dragon or bore me to sleep?
Yeah, more likely to shoot you.

On the shoot list:

Patchwork
Guillo
Dkkoba
Do it then what are you waiting for? My permission? My blessing?
Why would I do it now?
Why not? If im scum, i am now and i will be later, what's the difference?

maybe

my post explaining why not is the reason, and flavor being likely town doesnt want to rush the day, the phase where we actually have a chance to gather information?

Just a wild guess

ZZZX · Post Post #359 (isolation #13) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:36 pm

Caught up to the 8 pages while I was asleep. Will think ajd post mg thoughts later. I am still very tired.

Very conflicted feelings about patchwork, I will need to iso them later and see

ZZZX · Post Post #362 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:39 pm

In post 360, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 225, patchwork wrote: mastina’s push on DE
Are we in the same game bro?

I did wonder. Is Mastina in this game? Cus I don't see Mastina

ZZZX · Post Post #371 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:47 pm

In post 367, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 362, ZZZX wrote: Is Mastina in this game?
Not as far as I can tell?

In post 363, DkKoba wrote: if i had a nickel for everytime someone acidentally made up a player in the game i'd have 10 cents. which isn't much but pretty surprising it happened twice.
My current readlist:

BBmolla
Flavor Leaf
CCS
all other players
Gullotina
Mastina

Had to check. Been away enough that i wouldnt be surprised if NM became an alt for a few players or something.

On that note

NM, get here and work with me. Who is bad? And why? I am not used to you posting so little.

ZZZX · Post Post #373 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:49 pm

In post 368, DkKoba wrote: DE's recent posting is better but I'm still not convinced and feels like a shell of town DE so far

will say its likely there will crop up better d1 candidates as they are content heavy and removing content producers is always bad for gamestate even if you think they're "scum trying to control things'

protip: you can just, not listen to them, crazy concept

It depends. Sometimes if you know X is scum but he is affecting enough people, taking immedite action is critical. Other times, it can wait. There is no real "true" answer i suppose.

ZZZX · Post Post #379 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:56 pm

In post 375, DkKoba wrote:
In post 371, ZZZX wrote:
In post 367, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 362, ZZZX wrote: Is Mastina in this game?
Not as far as I can tell?

In post 363, DkKoba wrote: if i had a nickel for everytime someone acidentally made up a player in the game i'd have 10 cents. which isn't much but pretty surprising it happened twice.
My current readlist:

BBmolla
Flavor Leaf
CCS
all other players
Gullotina
Mastina

Had to check. Been away enough that i wouldnt be surprised if NM became an alt for a few players or something.

On that note

NM, get here and work with me. Who is bad? And why? I am not used to you posting so little.
NM has a bit of a flakey reputation lately, and trolly too if he was more ... normal playing in the past haha. that being said he's like 10x flakier as scum.

I will say when he tries and doesn't just shitpost (which usually only happens when people just write him off 100%) he has really decent reads tho which I'm guessing you know which is why you care

NM has always been a bit trolly, but also used to be more active and had good reads. Plus I could usually trust him.

A bit of a shame, but I get how things can be. Been there.

ZZZX · Post Post #383 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:02 pm

In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff

ZZZX · Post Post #443 (isolation #19) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:01 am

In post 442, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.5DragonEater70 (3) - Guillotina, DkKoba
iamveryhappy (2) - Itinerants, camelCasedSnivy
Guillotina (3) - DragonEater70, ZZZX
BlueSnakelet (1) - Cook
Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - iamveryhappy
Radical Polaroid (1) - MegAzumarill
patchwork (1) - Flavor Leaf

Not voting: Invisibility, BlueSnakelet, Arko, patchwork, Radical Polaroid, Nono

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 426, Nono wrote:
@mod: v/la 12 hours or so, sorry and ty

Nono is V/LA today.

@Mod either a vote is missing, or the total is wrong for Guillotina

Also, to be honest I dont have much to say about the Koba v dragon situation.. I think both are likely town, but its not a hard read. And to be honest I ran outta fucks to read further into it for now.. Maybe I revisit it in a better day.

ZZZX · Post Post #463 (isolation #20) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:35 am

Agreed. This entire discussion added nothing tbf

I'd be behind pushing cook for content. Why not

VOTE: cook

ZZZX · Post Post #521 (isolation #21) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:48 pm

In post 467, Guillotina wrote:
In post 383, ZZZX wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff
VOTE: ZZZX

This is the third scum.

It is not because they voted me. It's because they are
sold
without ISOing me first. It's fabricated.

Who taught these guys how to scum? They need more training.

Im opening up classes post game. $300 for four classes and you will graduate as professional scum players. You dont want to miss out.

I don't particularly care if you scum-read me, but I will not iso- someone every single time I decide to move my vote around at this point. Sue me

ZZZX · Post Post #523 (isolation #22) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:51 pm

In post 481, Guillotina wrote:
SCUM

1 in Dragon/FL
Patch
ZZZX

Is where im at.

Koba disassociated from Dragon

ZZZX/Dragon may be a team (see my vote for ZZZX)

————————————

SPICY WORLD

FL maybe whiteknighting Dragon and DKkoba may be whiteknighting me.
Meaning those two monster players are instigatimg and perpetuating the fight between town Dragon/Guillo

I would believe in this world if Dragon was not so obvious scum.

I do like the OMGUS here,

especially

when the mindset of "I found the third scum w/those guys" goes into lets attack that guy. I like it.

I am happy with my vote where it is. Let me see.

ZZZX · Post Post #524 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:55 pm

In post 505, Itinerants wrote: VOTE: Guillotina

I have my own doubts about DragonEater, the vibes are... definitely not there.

However, Guillotina's shitpushing here is very, very bad. It's not a Town tunnel, and I think that's extremely apparent.

I agree about not liking Guillotina's tunneling, but I'd still poke anyone not providing content for now first and come back to Guillotina later. Regardless of anything, we need people to get information out, otherwise we cannot reasonably solve the game.

ZZZX · Post Post #526 (isolation #24) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm

In post 518, DkKoba wrote:
In post 479, Guillotina wrote:
In post 451, Flavor Leaf wrote: yeah, idk if koba even believes their posts
Dkkoba is town.

In post 481, Guillotina wrote:
SCUM

1 in Dragon/FL
Patch
ZZZX

Is where im at.

Koba disassociated from Dragon

ZZZX/Dragon may be a team (see my vote for ZZZX)

————————————

SPICY WORLD

FL maybe whiteknighting Dragon and DKkoba may be whiteknighting me.
Meaning those two monster players are instigatimg and perpetuating the fight between town Dragon/Guillo

I would believe in this world if Dragon was not so obvious scum.
this also shows a progression that implies solving - guillo called me town, then went on to say I could be mafia immediately, which points to in between paranoia of thinking through the scenario rather than just making it up.

I do not think he called you scum here, if my reading comprehension isn't failing me, isn't he calling you town for not assosiating with Dragon, with a low chance you are whiteknighting him (and then re-iterates that he doesnt believe it since he sees Dragon as obvious scum, despite not trying to vote him Lol)

ZZZX · Post Post #527 (isolation #25) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:59 pm

In post 525, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Guillo

I’ll sheep Itenerants. I like that slot, and can potentially see it as a deep wolf, but specifically deep cuz I’m towning them right now

You know, you

are

tempting me to follow along

ZZZX · Post Post #529 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:03 pm

In post 528, Flavor Leaf wrote: Damn, did you just italics scum tell zzzzx?

italics what?

ZZZX · Post Post #532 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:10 pm

In post 530, DkKoba wrote:
In post 527, ZZZX wrote:
In post 525, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Guillo

I’ll sheep Itenerants. I like that slot, and can potentially see it as a deep wolf, but specifically deep cuz I’m towning them right now
You know, you
are
tempting me to follow along
what was convincing about their statement? to me that was possibly the least convincing argument to vote a player on day 1.

Less about their statement being convincing, and more about me wanting to have a wagon on Guillo for my own reasons I've expressed, now that I am seeing it is catching traction.

ZZZX · Post Post #534 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:12 pm

In post 531, DkKoba wrote:
In post 383, ZZZX wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff
huh.

VOTE: zzzx

getting what meg was talking about

Sure, I will bite:

Meg basically mentioned I was too passive (Whatever that means) and not liking my tone

How does that post show that? I am happy for the vote to be there on me, just explain your views

ZZZX · Post Post #537 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:19 pm

@mod If my maths are correct, Invisibility, Arko, Radical Polaroid should be prodded by now

I also dislike how little activity NM has so far, or to be honest how a significant bunch isnt active. I am happy to entertain you guys until those guys start posting.

So why am I scum?

p-edit: Let me reply to those seperately

ZZZX · Post Post #538 (isolation #30) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:23 pm

In post 535, DkKoba wrote:
In post 534, ZZZX wrote:
In post 531, DkKoba wrote:
In post 383, ZZZX wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff
huh.

VOTE: zzzx

getting what meg was talking about
Sure, I will bite:

Meg basically mentioned I was too passive (Whatever that means) and not liking my tone

How does that post show that? I am happy for the vote to be there on me, just explain your views
I don't find your content indicative of a solving process, the guillo vote to the cook vote had no actual flow to me.

Your worldview seems to be extremely shallow despite your engagement being higher than others

Your Guillo vote feels overtly opportunistic.

Granted - I have never played with you. You might be this way as town. The more you talk about your perception of the game the more accurate of a read I can get on you. (that being said, if you are scum don't think faking it will work)

The Guillo vote (the only one I did) was the second vote on that wagon, I don't see any opportunity for it to be oppurtinistic

Moving to cook for not posting is something I have been talking about since early game, about wanting to push non-posters to provide content, and seeing one of those take steam I have ofc decided (and still am) to jump on that wagon.

I like you being open to reading further, and hence why I am more than happy to engage further. I mention that I think both you and dragon are both leaning town, and to me most of the last few pages of arguements were pointless, so yes, I didn't have much to add there, especially as unlike the Flavor situation early on, none threatened to dayvig or do something that threatened the entire game day

I do think we don't have enough to get a good read on most people, especially as most of the playerlist has no input. we have 25ish pages of like 6 players in a Large

ZZZX · Post Post #543 (isolation #31) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:28 pm

In post 536, DkKoba wrote: And yeah the tone feels very standoffish where conflict is avoided as much as possible.

You feel very much on the sidelines of things in a way that indicates you lack care.

There are many reasons why someone might not want to catch attention as much, all I will say

I can't tell you why you need to read me as town, I like to believe that both my scum and town game be as close to each others, although quite a few people can tell differences. And if I tell you anything it will be to the tone of "I know I am town, trust me!". But what I will tell you, is regardless if you read me as town or not, there are bigger priorities, like getting more information out by pushing people who are asleep here.

And yea, its been a while. I was much younger at that GtkaS haha. I can't even recall what I wrote there. Good times.

ZZZX · Post Post #544 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:29 pm

In post 541, Flavor Leaf wrote: @zzzx - 7 years ish ago, there was a game I believe you were in with another player with a Sheep avatar icon.

You were scum pocketing me there, i think. Good game.

Do you mean the game where I made you trust me completely, before betraying that trust, resulting in you being unable to trust me for life anymore?

I've heard my RL friends tell me they can't trust me anymore after our RL mafia game. that was fun

ZZZX · Post Post #548 (isolation #33) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:36 pm

In post 547, DkKoba wrote: my self iso sees why I thought that

You know, you are giving me inspiration to look at mine later, probably in the afternoon, I need to go catch a train soon and Germany is very well known for having Good(tm) Internet(tm) especially in trains

ZZZX · Post Post #551 (isolation #34) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:39 pm

My bad @mod

ZZZX · Post Post #558 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:44 pm

In post 556, DkKoba wrote: starting to come to the conclusion we should unironically just sort by postcount atp lol

Well, anyone with less posts that the mod is worth looking at. Bonus points for people with less than 5 posts but more than 0, anyone with zero posts could just be away

In post 557, Flavor Leaf wrote: They really don’t like you zzzx

Well, I needed this for the authentic mafia experiance

I am used to it

ZZZX · Post Post #569 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:54 pm

In post 566, Guillotina wrote:
In post 500, patchwork wrote: guillo why do u scumread me again
I dont remember anymore so i guess i dont anymore.

I like it

ZZZX · Post Post #588 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:13 pm

In post 585, Guillotina wrote:
In post 521, ZZZX wrote:
In post 467, Guillotina wrote:
In post 383, ZZZX wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff
VOTE: ZZZX

This is the third scum.

It is not because they voted me. It's because they are
sold
without ISOing me first. It's fabricated.

Who taught these guys how to scum? They need more training.

Im opening up classes post game. $300 for four classes and you will graduate as professional scum players. You dont want to miss out.
I don't particularly care if you scum-read me, but I will not iso- someone every single time I decide to move my vote around at this point. Sue me
That is not the issue, the issue is that you never did.

Either you lied about being sold
Or you lied about not having read my ISO

WHY?

Because you can't be convinced on a case on someone without verifying it yourself.

I... am not going to even get into the arguement of "you cannot be convinced on a case without iso-ing".

Sue me.

ZZZX · Post Post #593 (isolation #38) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:17 pm

In post 583, Guillotina wrote:
In post 512, DkKoba wrote: It's like saying I am mafia for lying or being manipulative to get my way - it completely ignores the fact this is something present within both alignments of play.

I think Guillo is town because he does not come off as having TMI, which is my primary way of reading his slot in games.
How do you figure i dont have TMI without you having TMI?

You know, you can make decisions and thoughts from how people react to certain things, showing information, or how a certain few posts are, without needing to read every post they ever wrote in eternity, or knowing all the information,

ZZZX · Post Post #594 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:18 pm

In post 591, Guillotina wrote:
In post 588, ZZZX wrote:
In post 585, Guillotina wrote:
In post 521, ZZZX wrote:
In post 467, Guillotina wrote:
In post 383, ZZZX wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 262, Guillotina wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I shoot on my terms.
Chicken.

Why chickens get day vigs. Boring
It's not chicken, it's rational thinking.

Would you call someone "chicken" for not running into a highway when you tell them to?

Okay I guess some people would call that person chicken, but these people are idiots who are willing to risk their and other people's lives so you really shouldn't copy them

Anyhow I kinda get the sense that Guillotina
could
just be town with terrible reads and off-meta playstyle, but I still think they are much scummier than most players who have posted so far so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

You know what, I am sold.

I will park my vote here for now

VOTE: Guillotina

I will iso Guillotina and have a more concrete readinf later. I will go now and do stuff
VOTE: ZZZX

This is the third scum.

It is not because they voted me. It's because they are
sold
without ISOing me first. It's fabricated.

Who taught these guys how to scum? They need more training.

Im opening up classes post game. $300 for four classes and you will graduate as professional scum players. You dont want to miss out.
I don't particularly care if you scum-read me, but I will not iso- someone every single time I decide to move my vote around at this point. Sue me
That is not the issue, the issue is that you never did.

Either you lied about being sold
Or you lied about not having read my ISO

WHY?

Because you can't be convinced on a case on someone without verifying it yourself.
I... am not going to even get into the arguement of "you cannot be convinced on a case without iso-ing".

Sue me.
Yah dont, because there is no argument. Just lay there defeated in just two posts. Ty.

Ofcourse, you cannot win an arguement against someone who tells you the sun is blue, because there is nothing to argue about

ZZZX · Post Post #597 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:20 pm

In post 595, Guillotina wrote:
In post 537, ZZZX wrote:
@mod If my maths are correct, Invisibility, Arko, Radical Polaroid should be prodded by now

I also dislike how little activity NM has so far, or to be honest how a significant bunch isnt active. I am happy to entertain you guys until those guys start posting.

So why am I scum?

p-edit: Let me reply to those seperately
Why are you asking for prods publicly? Are not those requested privately?

I haven't been on the site for the last ~3 years if I am not mistaken, so I am not aware that you now need to request for prods privately. If so, my bad.

ZZZX · Post Post #600 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:22 pm

In post 596, Guillotina wrote:
In post 593, ZZZX wrote:
In post 583, Guillotina wrote:
In post 512, DkKoba wrote: It's like saying I am mafia for lying or being manipulative to get my way - it completely ignores the fact this is something present within both alignments of play.

I think Guillo is town because he does not come off as having TMI, which is my primary way of reading his slot in games.
How do you figure i dont have TMI without you having TMI?
You know, you can make decisions and thoughts from how people react to certain things, showing information, or how a certain few posts are, without needing to read every post they ever wrote in eternity, or knowing all the information,

Such as? (In my case).

To translate, some blind reads with a lot of confidence, reads that go against the common flow without a reason, can be attributed to TMI. I can't say anything specific you did because Koba's entire arguement was about you

not

have one of those instances.

I don't entirely share his view, but am happy to explain

ZZZX · Post Post #601 (isolation #42) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:23 pm

In post 598, Guillotina wrote:
In post 114, Guillotina wrote:
In post 58, ZZZX wrote:
In post 55, Not_Mafia wrote: I submitted the following 4 roles

In post 11655, Not_Mafia wrote:
Town Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11656, Not_Mafia wrote:
Mafia Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11657, Not_Mafia wrote:
Werewolf Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start

In post 11658, Not_Mafia wrote:
Alien Winner

You immediately exit the game in a win at game start
I am a VT

If I had to bet 5 bucks whether you sent those roles or not... well, lets say that I truly believe in you
Zzz and Not Mafia are not group scum together
Oh yah

Not Mafia is also town then

Ah yes, you have a read on NM when he has 3 votes in RVS?

Yea, no comments.

ZZZX · Post Post #606 (isolation #43) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:34 pm

In post 604, Guillotina wrote: If you are piling on me for speaking my mind out loud with the intent to silence me, you are wasting your time. There is nothing you can threaten me with, death? I welcome death. I play to die as soon as possible while making the most impact in as less time as possible. There is nothing you can do to shit me up, not even if you are a chicken day vig.

You are giving yourself way more credit that anyone is giving you

ZZZX · Post Post #619 (isolation #44) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:48 pm

In post 616, Guillotina wrote:
In post 613, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 602, Guillotina wrote:
In post 600, ZZZX wrote:
In post 596, Guillotina wrote:
In post 593, ZZZX wrote:
In post 583, Guillotina wrote:
In post 512, DkKoba wrote: It's like saying I am mafia for lying or being manipulative to get my way - it completely ignores the fact this is something present within both alignments of play.

I think Guillo is town because he does not come off as having TMI, which is my primary way of reading his slot in games.
How do you figure i dont have TMI without you having TMI?
You know, you can make decisions and thoughts from how people react to certain things, showing information, or how a certain few posts are, without needing to read every post they ever wrote in eternity, or knowing all the information,

Such as? (In my case).
To translate, some blind reads with a lot of confidence, reads that go against the common flow without a reason, can be attributed to TMI. I can't say anything specific you did because Koba's entire arguement was about you
not
have one of those instances.

I don't entirely share his view, but am happy to explain
Are you koba?
To be fair you did ask them and not Koba
I asked Koba.

Do yourself a favor and dont ask questions addressed directly at others. That easily gets you to eat a bullet from me.

You quoted MY post, asking "Such as?" Making no mention of Koba,

and instead of even doing anything else, you double down on it.

I am not engaging you any further, I dont know if this is your playstyle or if its scum you trying to make everyone disinterested in dealing with you, if it is the latter you succeeded, I am done here.

Now back to things that matter, lets see what we can get out of the others here

ZZZX · Post Post #627 (isolation #45) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:11 pm

Well, big if true lol.

I.. will await the mod confirmation with strong interest

ZZZX · Post Post #638 (isolation #46) » Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:41 am

Just reached my destination in train. I will rest for a few hours, gather my thoughts and post. Too tired rifht now

Until then,

VOTE: cook

I

ZZZX · Post Post #641 (isolation #47) » Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:31 am

In post 640, pisskop wrote: Fuckin Flavorleaf, I join the game and he offs himself

Classic

Welcome pisskop. Been some time!

ZZZX · Post Post #643 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:34 am

In post 642, pisskop wrote: it has! Great to see so many familiar faces. I started to read before I got my role, but then decided against that. You know.

Ummmm, I super rusty, so bear with me guys.

It si interest. Both of us just came back from a long hiatus at the same game haha.

Well ill read this game more later, just swung by to say hi

ZZZX · Post Post #712 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:02 am

I am glad not too much happened, I will post in a bit, sorry, got a bit busy rl

ZZZX · Post Post #716 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:04 am

In post 714, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 708, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.10Cook (3) - DkKoba, ZZZX, camelCasedSnivy
Itinerants (2) - pisskop, BlueSnakelet
patchwork (1) - Nono
pisskop (1) - Itinerants

Not voting: Invisibility, Not_Mafia, MegAzumarill, Cook, Arko, patchwork, Radical Polaroid, iamveryhappy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

It appears to be a lot

Flavor boomed Guil, both town,

And then the game went on a standstill more or less

And I barely have the braincells to process stuff, so I am taking things slow until I have the time and will power to deal with it

ZZZX · Post Post #717 (isolation #51) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:05 am

In post 715, iamveryhappy wrote: p sure Im on itinerants
might be wrong so
VOTE: Itinerants

Why?

You were indeed on itinerants, as an OMGUS, but I am not curious, you didnt say much so... whats on your mind?

ZZZX · Post Post #720 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:08 am

In post 718, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 717, ZZZX wrote:
In post 715, iamveryhappy wrote: p sure Im on itinerants
might be wrong so
VOTE: Itinerants
Why?

You were indeed on itinerants, as an OMGUS, but I am not curious, you didnt say much so... whats on your mind?
owie is on my mind
I punched the wall while trying to punch someone

That sucks.

Let me try that again

What is on your mind regarding the game/itinerants?

ZZZX · Post Post #724 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:28 am

In post 723, MegAzumarill wrote: Open for questions though if someone wants me to focus on something in particular

Curious about your thoughts on Koba actually.

Will sleep now, and read this game more later, but thats a good place to start

ZZZX · Post Post #771 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:48 am

@MOD I am VLA for 2 days, bit of life busy-ness

In post 762, DkKoba wrote: [Nono, std, pisskop, xxxz,cook, bluesnek]

Has all non towns potentially me thinks

It is ZZZX thank you very much

ZZZX · Post Post #899 (isolation #55) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:50 pm

Alright, I am back(ish), and I will read up after work

ZZZX · Post Post #907 (isolation #56) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:11 am

Ok,

What is even happening.

And why is half this playerlist dead xD

I have barely, if at all been here, yet I am top 6 in the activity. and no useful discussion is even happening anymore

??

ZZZX · Post Post #914 (isolation #57) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:32 am

In post 913, Yimmy wrote:
In post 10, DkKoba wrote:
In post 5, TemporalLich wrote:
Players may sacrifice themselves to the Guardian Deity of Cops during the night. Everyone has gained the Sacrifice global ability.

Global ability:

• During the night, you may sacrifice yourself to the Guardian Deity of Cops to provide the Guardian Deity of Cops one Offering. If you sacrifice yourself to the Guardian Deity of Cops, you will unavoidably die.

i think it goes without saying, using this is a really dumb idea unless you are an unjester
idk it really feels like if we just get 8 people to sacrifice themself tonight and then have the cop investigate the entire player list then we auto-win. like i guess the guardian might not be town but its a pretty good gamble i think. >rand at least

Its definitely a horrid, horrid idea

I like it.

Anyway, doing some reads on everyone (or at least a few?) tomorrow. i am too tired now, Goodnight

ZZZX · Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:20 am

Prodge. I promise a full readlist analysis (or an attempt to) by my next post.

I am tired, a bit sick, and just overwhelmed with life a bit rn.

ZZZX · Post Post #1224 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:36 am

In post 1187, pisskop wrote: The fact that votes were reset counts for something

Well, it does indicate that the dayvig failed if nothing else, and that it was real.

Well, thats the 2nd day vig in this game... SO FAR

ZZZX · Post Post #1225 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:37 am

I was planning to prodge because I didnt have the mental will to make a full readlist, yet here we are, with fresh action for me to post about and ignore my problems for one more day haha.

Since the deadline is frozen anyway, I guess I have time to gather my wits and then start reading the game

ZZZX · Post Post #1602 (isolation #61) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:19 am

Ive been extremely busy irl, sorry!

Let me see what has been up

ZZZX · Post Post #1605 (isolation #62) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:23 am

Am i missing something?

Patch is at E-5 or whatever, why are people talking about hammering him?
I will skim everything within the next 24 hours. Busy busy weekend finishing my move and whatnot. I really didnt give this game the time it deserves..

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:03 am

In post 1607, patchwork wrote:
In post 1605, ZZZX wrote: Am i missing something?

Patch is at E-5 or whatever, why are people talking about hammering him?
I will skim everything within the next 24 hours. Busy busy weekend finishing my move and whatnot. I really didnt give this game the time it deserves..
them

Apologies.

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:05 am

Ok, maybe I am a bit lazy, and I still need to skim through stuff. But i quickly read the last few pages and I am confused.

Can someone do me a favor and explain the state of the game right now? Who claimed what or what the hell is up lol.

I promise to get to it, in time. But i feel i cant even read the last 2 pages with all the context I am missing

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:16 am

Alriiiight I see none has a single fuck to give to answer either my questions, or even to consider my existance.

I will go sleep now and read the whole day again then. Gah.

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:18 am

In post 1632, ZZZX wrote: Ok, maybe I am a bit lazy, and I still need to skim through stuff. But i quickly read the last few pages and I am confused.

Can someone do me a favor and explain the state of the game right now? Who claimed what or what the hell is up lol.

I promise to get to it, in time. But i feel i cant even read the last 2 pages with all the context I am missing

In post 1605, ZZZX wrote: Am i missing something?

Patch is at E-5 or whatever, why are people talking about hammering him?
I will skim everything within the next 24 hours. Busy busy weekend finishing my move and whatnot. I really didnt give this game the time it deserves..

I skimmed the last few pages and nothing made sense.

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:23 am

Ah, I see. Thanks.

I think the last few days with moving have really taken a toll on my total number of brain cells

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:28 am

In post 1650, pisskop wrote:
In post 1648, ZZZX wrote: Ah, I see. Thanks.

I think the last few days with moving have really taken a toll on my total number of brain cells
sorry to hear that. Id love to know who you think I should cop, or what you think of our plan

Honestly? Either, Any slot with no activity what so ever in the game. Or someone you trust to lead the town if they are town. If you are asking for who i suspect to be scum, thats a different question that I need to have a more in depth read to decide on

I think it is always possible to read people eventually, but anyone who is just not there is not possible, and are scum going through for free are worst, or lim bait at best which will be problematic later.

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:30 am

Honestly I agree with moving the game forward. Nothing really happened in the last few days what so ever, and i can attribute half of my lack of posting to that. It is draining for the town, and a free pass for scum.

So if everyone else is fine with it, we can just have this moving forward, at worst the night is paused until replacements are found. But at least we arent stuck in a prodge loop

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:31 am

And i think I would normally not agree to that plan, losing someone who can be a confirmed town hurts. More so now that the cop is gone within 1-2 nights (barring shenanigans, and this is greatest idea...), but the game state is.... bad. Nothing better to say. So it might be the play

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:32 am

You know what they say, be the change you want see in the world

VOTE: patch

ZZZX · Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:34 am

Anyway hitting the bed now
Catch you guys later

ZZZX · Post Post #1793 (isolation #73) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:34 am

Uh oh, Let me read up and see what I missed. Was around when day started, but it was late and I... forgot about the game haha

ZZZX · Post Post #1794 (isolation #74) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:37 am

In post 1774, Itinerants wrote:
In post 1762, pisskop wrote: it was a pm to me.

Anyway, Its not an indictment on you
You received a PM that Flavor sacrificed himself to you, even though that very obviously didn't happen?

Sounds like someone's fucking with your messages to me.

-Rat

Sounds extremely weird,

if we didn't know you were a confirmed town due to the Masonary, I would've called bullshit on that, which makes it even weirder

ZZZX · Post Post #1795 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:37 am

In post 1773, pisskop wrote:
In post 5, TemporalLich wrote:
Players may sacrifice themselves to the Guardian Deity of Cops during the night. Everyone has gained the Sacrifice global ability.

Global ability:

• During the night, you may sacrifice yourself to the Guardian Deity of Cops to provide the Guardian Deity of Cops one Offering. If you sacrifice yourself to the Guardian Deity of Cops, you will unavoidably die.

hmmmm

maybe youre right. Ill look more closely in the morning but I sure
feel
jipped lol

Even more so with this here lol

ZZZX · Post Post #1796 (isolation #76) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:38 am

In post 1790, Enchant wrote: Amway really suck i am surprised people ever accepted knowing they will lose all powers.

What do you mean?

Did I miss something about how things work here?

ZZZX · Post Post #1847 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:08 am

Oh I already reached the prod timer? Weird. Let me see if anything really happened.
Not gonna lie, being busy and nothing really happening drains my motivation to do much, which I hate. Maybe I need to jump start it or sometihng

ZZZX · Post Post #1848 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:09 am

Indeed it was 2 days since my last post, I thought it was only one. Fuck lol

ZZZX · Post Post #1849 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:10 am

In post 1826, pisskop wrote: I did not get one. The pm I got last night was 'you got one offering'

So was it the same one you had yesterday when the offering got stolen?

ZZZX · Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:42 am

This game needs a miracle haha

Well, looking at how nonsensical cook v dkkoba is makes me want to believe both are town. But thats a bit of a reach. But I mean, Dkkoba is town from prior interactions soo...

Maybe it might make sense to see what the replacements thoughts are and maybe they bring more life into the game..

ZZZX · Post Post #1932 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:39 pm

In post 1897, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1895, ZZZX wrote: This game needs a miracle haha

Well, looking at how nonsensical cook v dkkoba is makes me want to believe both are town. But thats a bit of a reach. But I mean, Dkkoba is town from prior interactions soo...

Maybe it might make sense to see what the replacements thoughts are and maybe they bring more life into the game..
why do u think cook is town

I dont think cook is town persay, I think that interaction felt TvT somewhat

ZZZX · Post Post #1933 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:41 pm

Also, can someone sell me on either cook or Eiralox? I don't have a hard read on either, and I do not see it yet.

But we have a deadline in two days and we really need to get moving i suppose.

ZZZX · Post Post #1935 (isolation #83) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:49 pm

In post 1934, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1933, ZZZX wrote: Also, can someone sell me on either cook or Eiralox? I don't have a hard read on either, and I do not see it yet.

But we have a deadline in two days and we really need to get moving i suppose.
Any reason you're not talking about Itinerants?

Mostly because more people had the willingness to vote for you and cook, so its more likely we can get an elim before the day ends. I havent been interacting much with the game sinc enothong is happening. And honestly i forgot most of my reads so I probably have to go back and re read

ZZZX · Post Post #1937 (isolation #84) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:59 pm

In post 1936, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1935, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1934, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1933, ZZZX wrote: Also, can someone sell me on either cook or Eiralox? I don't have a hard read on either, and I do not see it yet.

But we have a deadline in two days and we really need to get moving i suppose.
Any reason you're not talking about Itinerants?
Mostly because more people had the willingness to vote for you and cook, so its more likely we can get an elim before the day ends. I havent been interacting much with the game sinc enothong is happening. And honestly i forgot most of my reads so I probably have to go back and re read
Can't say your viewpoint encourages me. Bingle has no solid reasoning. Not_Mafia is Not_Mafia, radiant and pure. Itenerants has been on every wagon basically day one and simply doesn't act town from what I've felt.

The correct play is voting in Bingle, Enchant, Itenerants. My plan at least.

Makes me a bit sad that your take is 'maybe just go for cook or eira, there's people voting there.'

But I'm not pushing you today so you do you.

NM is indeed NM, so I get that. And honestly? I am.not happy about it either. But reality is that half the playerlist is absolutely null, we are running out of time, and a no-elim at this point is VERY bad. And i have low confidence in rereading, making a new case and getting someone else elimd in this time frame we have left. So its mostly a case of lesser evils.

ZZZX · Post Post #2035 (isolation #85) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:35 pm

In post 2002, Eiralox wrote:
Current Readslist

Basically Cleared:

Pisskop
: GDOC. No need to contend.

MegAzumarill
: Going on pisskop's word, felt town to me

Most probably town:

Gamma Emerald:
Yimmy felt sort of lost but benevolent, Gamma feels like they have town mentality by judging their actions.

Cook:
Feels town, benevolent intent. idk for me the snivy dayvig might be town indic as well, scum or third party might want to save that shot and not waste it early on a probable non-killing third party. hope u feel better.

DkKoba:
Investigative, driver, day one input paints as town as fuck imo. Missed koba's post last night but yeah I knew we've played together before and I just sense the depth and care I want to find in town here. also not proud of how i acted in that game to koba but this time it feels as if we're on the same side and working towards the same goal. koba's interactions with bingle and iterants really enforced this to me because it's been solid analysis and the sort of things town want to know. asking iten who's scum for instance, which itens never answered, itens' done no scum hunting today. hope ur healthy.

?:

Not_Mafia:
Mystery but I can ignore for now and place as vt

whemestar:
idk despite lack of input psyche finda felt town, not enough grasp to have on nono, so far a null I guess

KatyKimFanClub:
idk save the dragons gave me weird lurky vibes but also felt town a bit. Null I guess, same with wheme just havent done much so far. i can compromise on wheme and katykim but not ideal wagons for me per se

???:

Enchant:
Ok my feel day one was just popping in to be there.day two, has done nothing, struggle to see town here.

Bingle:
Almost every post and action focused on eira. doesnt seem interested in solving the game somuch as getting a spesific elim.don'tsee their actions and arguments coming from a town mentality at all but rather either as an informed driver for a minority faction or more edgewise in my mind a lone third party. probably in a pt for now due to how i've felt they react to my mentions of enchant and bingle. bluesnakelet just sscreams not town to me over all.

Itenerants:
I believe they're strong players so I'm a bit surprised by their game ngl. because scum really don't want to be obvious and to me they sort of are. popping in and now and again, day two done basically nothing, day one heavily incriminated by how and where they voted. my guess is they didn't expect to be caught maybe and know that starting to talk now might destroy any chance their team has left. idk thought maybe a zombie after all but with bingle stuff i'm pretty chill putting them as scum. maybe wouldn't have included zombie in claims if they got that idk.

Boop:

ZZZX:
forgot all about this slot so adding at end. felt town, probably place them above n_m , katykim and wheme in order, but can also see them as scum popping in now and again. town vibes so far but eh definitely not as strong a feel as on cook, gamma,koba

Well I like having my own section. Nice read list othwr than that

ZZZX · Post Post #2036 (isolation #86) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:37 pm

In post 2018, DkKoba wrote: NM flaking is kinda scummy for him regrettably tho but i'd be willing to wait for replacement for him because he showed some good stuff at points

I think its very NAI, this seems to be a period where NM is barely there

ZZZX · Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:23 am

Well i see the day began, but im about to sleep, just popping in to say im here and ill do more later haha. Also waiting to see what the replaced people think. That will be an interesting topic.

ZZZX · Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:01 am

In post 2147, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2107, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 2.14
WhemeStar
(7)
- Gamma Emerald, Cook, DkKoba, Bingle, pisskop, Itinerants, Enchant
[EXILED!]

Eiralox (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: KatyKimFanClub, MegAzumarill, WhemeStar, ZZZX

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Deadline is frozen at 2 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until a replacement is found.

KatyKimFanClub is V/LA until Tuesday.

Hmmm I don’t fully know what it means that enchant hammered his lover partner outside of probably memes

Oh LOL I just saw it

ZZZX · Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:03 am

To be honest at that point I was completely out of the game that I wouldn't have seen it haha.

Well, I agree with pisskops observation. But I am curious about the whole mindset there still, like I still don't see a world where mafia wants to get a lim that gets them dead as well, but well shit I can't deny the fact that it just happened lol.

ZZZX · Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:25 am

In post 2276, Eiralox wrote: anyone wanna tell me cook and megA who've really seemed town ain't because they're talking about inventions because if an inventor flips town, who cook says is scum from info, that means they just ain't scum aside from Bingle? cos it's a tough sell.

avoidance is much the play for the scums here. try and get them locked down on a topic like zzzx or itenerants' day one votes that's my suggestion.

I am happy to contribute as a tribute. What about my day 1 votes? Anything come out to you?

Also reading up, so have some patience while i catch up

ZZZX · Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:27 am

Oh, the cook invention thing is interesting. Cant tell what to make of it though. Id like to believe they are non-scum because a random fake claim of said invention feels out of place but... maybe?

ZZZX · Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:31 am

In post 2246, MegAzumarill wrote: viewtopic.php?t=59348&start=2090

Here's the role giving these out, that makes Cook clear from being mafia at least.

Took a while to find

I am curious, but not enough to go through the entire grandest post, are we sure there arent any other roles that can result in the current outcome?

Also if anyone wants to look at how peoples votes worked in relationship to each others feel free, but i think its dumb this game. With the amount of inactivity and replacements, there is a non zero chance it wont help ajd will do harm. I do believe there was a period early on where everyone active was clearly town fmpov, but maybe we can figure something out? Donno

ZZZX · Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:35 am

In post 2289, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2286, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2276, Eiralox wrote: anyone wanna tell me cook and megA who've really seemed town ain't because they're talking about inventions because if an inventor flips town, who cook says is scum from info, that means they just ain't scum aside from Bingle? cos it's a tough sell.

avoidance is much the play for the scums here. try and get them locked down on a topic like zzzx or itenerants' day one votes that's my suggestion.
I am happy to contribute as a tribute. What about my day 1 votes? Anything come out to you?

Also reading up, so have some patience while i catch up
not voting u today just approaching my POE. don't really recall anything bout your d1 votes that stood out one way or another might check later. reason im more sus of you basically cos titus sounds sincere and jackson maybe sorta felt sincere with vt post so going down the line

p-edit: also cos i kinda get the same feel from u in terms of strategic posting and game awareness i get from iten/bing. but either way not something imma push today really

I get you, and for me its kinda being at a point where i dont have much in mind. Trying to keep up and all. So having a talking or a discussion point for me is a good thing if you get me, because it allows me to actually contribute to something instead of feeling like dead weight haha

ZZZX · Post Post #2336 (isolation #94) » Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:48 am

I don't mind pushing Bingle with the current state, especially mechanically in the game, but if you decide to go for, but I wouldn't end the day yet, esp when sm1 just replaced in. So I'd appreciate if someone unvotes so none ninjas it

ZZZX · Post Post #2340 (isolation #95) » Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:55 am

viewtopic.php?t=91568

My last completed game some days ago, we had a ninja hammer, created way more confusion than it had to, and almost lost us the game if not things working out.

Lets not do that kinda thing again

If the state is clearly that Bingle is scum, then its only an advantage if we slow down, let people who replaced catch up, and then hammer him. And if he is not, he will be able to clear himself. I think with the current info it will be easy to tell if he is or isn't. And if he refuses to claim for a few days then we hammer him with the knowledge we have. Fair enough?

p-edit: Well, I love people trying to sort me, I am not good at reading pages or whatever, but I am good at engaging in a conversation,

especially

if the conversation is about me

ZZZX · Post Post #2341 (isolation #96) » Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:57 am

In post 2338, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2336, ZZZX wrote: I don't mind pushing Bingle with the current state, especially mechanically in the game, but if you decide to go for, but I wouldn't end the day yet, esp when sm1 just replaced in. So I'd appreciate if someone unvotes so none ninjas it
i don't think Titus is bussing. if Element's isn't, where else can I look but you? I have to assume they're both scum and work with the data I have. And I need to stick to my Day 2 instincts, which make gamma and cook town. cook almost conf town to me with the way she spoke about inventions.

so ZZZX just a heads up if i'm busy doing anything the next six days it'll probably be trying to sort u

Also, regardless of your view on me, bussing wouldn't be an accurate word here since I am not pushing him, in reality (and this is a bad thing, mind you, but a fact) I haven't really pushed much. Still in my Mafia rust.. Had the same issue in the last game I did. Plus, with the way mafia hammered sm1 killing their own members, I don't think assosiations make much sense, if at all.

ZZZX · Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:01 am

In post 2342, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2339, Elements wrote:
In post 2337, Eiralox wrote: I will say the Elements vote made me curious.
Catchup wise I've iso'd you, meg, titus, and bingle
I like putting people at e-1
what do you find curious about it?
well to be blunt after i observed what went down with enchant and considering the speed of your vote after entry i considered you might be bussing bingle with itenerants.

but not_mafia and jackson somehow gave me good vibes, i guess you have tbh so

basically just ignore that

i'm starting to settle on zzzx maybe being the last piece of the puzzle. unless there's another third party of course. 11:4:1:1 idk.

Not that I have an issue with this, but I don't see that NM did anything deserving of any read, let alone "good vibes".. and Jackson has THREE posts.. What are you even saying?

ZZZX · Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:03 am

In post 2345, Elements wrote: What went down with enchant?

What do you mean?

ZZZX · Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 am

In post 2347, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2341, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2338, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2336, ZZZX wrote: I don't mind pushing Bingle with the current state, especially mechanically in the game, but if you decide to go for, but I wouldn't end the day yet, esp when sm1 just replaced in. So I'd appreciate if someone unvotes so none ninjas it
i don't think Titus is bussing. if Element's isn't, where else can I look but you? I have to assume they're both scum and work with the data I have. And I need to stick to my Day 2 instincts, which make gamma and cook town. cook almost conf town to me with the way she spoke about inventions.

so ZZZX just a heads up if i'm busy doing anything the next six days it'll probably be trying to sort u
Also, regardless of your view on me, bussing wouldn't be an accurate word here since I am not pushing him, in reality (and this is a bad thing, mind you, but a fact) I haven't really pushed much. Still in my Mafia rust.. Had the same issue in the last game I did. Plus, with the way mafia hammered sm1 killing their own members, I don't think assosiations make much sense, if at all.
i didn't say you're bussing said titus isn't seeming to and elements maybe not. in fact i considered your post more along ythe line of itenerants mech posts 'yeah we can do bingle but think about this' kinda thing.

to me rn it's becomes less a matter of asscoiatives and a matter of process. bingle and iten are intwined but regarding your slot it's where i've come after having a good idea who really feels town. today the dark spots were zzzx, elements, titus, and if elements and become townier and if we do get scum flips in bingle and iten as i suspect then simply put i have to look at you.

but this is also just a game so take your time we chill i guess

Fair enough, I read it as "titus and elements aren't bussing, but you are"

And fair enough, and I'd like to hear your opinion on me, and I am happy to discuss it, I'd also hope many of the players I used to play with back in the day can tell my alignment from that alone. So it is something I am happy to go into.

I still am curious about NM/Jackson piece you said.

ZZZX · Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 am

In post 2351, Elements wrote:
In post 2348, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2344, Elements wrote: I'll UNVOTE: so y'all can stop worrying
im not worrying I just REALLY REALLY REALLY want to hammer bingle and you've been tempting me with that the entire time now
Well now that you've said that I feel like I have to VOTE: Bingle

ZZZX · Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:07 am

In post 2349, Elements wrote:
In post 2346, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2345, Elements wrote: What went down with enchant?
What do you mean?
2342

Ah, my mind didn't put two and two together lol

ZZZX · Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:52 am

vla for three days or so. Ill hopefully have time to pop in but i am going out of town so no promises

ZZZX · Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:54 am

Also i really want to read eiralox up more on depth as soon as i can. Same for bingle. Will make a good decision easier. Maybe if i find time in the next days.

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:25 am

I am here I forgot about the game, sorry. Posting something game related in a few minutes then elaborating tonight

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:27 am

In post 2664, Eiralox wrote: and truth is kidnapper having another variation and zzzx still not having talked has given me a new shade of paranoia XD

just dont have enough mech knowledge regarding the double kill here probably relying on cook more today

Well I had nothing to do in the night, so I kinda was away really. I will also claim later, since it takes a tiny bit more effort than I am willing to do in a quick pseudo prod dodge-y posts but not really because prod dodges are not allowed

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:28 am

Is there any non maf/wolf roles with day kills in the grandest? I'd believe cook is town after those hits. Especially since the chance of a third party taking that risk seems off at that point.

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:33 am

I can confirm though before I full claim that I had done no actions, and that I didnt get any message indicating anything effecting me so no idea.

I tried to lookup a kidnapper in grandest, i expected it to work like a RB or something but it was more interestinf I guess? Are you confirming this is what you mean?

viewtopic.php?p=6261120#p6261120

Also, I will be back later. So no rush

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:33 am

In post 2691, Eiralox wrote: yeah i pretty much have cook as absolute town barring some mechanic i'm unaware of. judging purely by votes also. so not voting Cook at all today.

Agreed. Cant say the possibility is zero but at that point its nitpicking

ZZZX · Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:33 am

Anyway, I will go now and comment later. Feel free to ask me questions to answer until then

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:13 pm

I am here, been very busy.

My claim is the

Unknown Role

, essentially giving me a total random role every day, it was my free slot role. My other unpicked roles were:

- Town Pyromaniac (.. yes, thought that'd be fun)
- Mod Desc. 1-shot death faker (I think it was called that)
- Mafia Gossipy neighbor

My first day role was a 3-shot doctor, resulting in my unknown role being town. I used it on Dkkoba. Ofcourse during that time there were no nightkills due to the sacrafice thing, but I used it since it goes away anyway, and I can use it to verify myself if anyone checked me.

Second day, I had gumshoe, which checks if someone used a killing action at that day, I used it on Jackson(now Elements), and I got the result that Elements did not use any killing action.

Third day, I got Taboo Town, which was really annoying for me, hence why I tried to avoid the topic for mass claiming, because I checked many things with TL, and basically claiming my current Taboo role, claiming my original role, or even my alignment could cause me getting modkilled. Fortunately the way my role works, I lost that role.

Today I am a silver cop, and I have no idea what silver is, but I assume its some third party? No clue.

I will read up to see what I missed

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:14 pm

In post 2705, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2704, Cook wrote: oh right you said earlier :p
zzzx pretty much a wolf flip
u think there could be aliens?

Kinda curious, why are you certain I am a wolf and not Mafia? You seem to talk about it with very high confidence huh

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:16 pm

In post 2711, Cook wrote:
In post 2710, Elements wrote: Cook what are you thoughts on each of Me, Eira and Gamma?
i've gone back and forth on gamma but i think i townread her now

eira... i was SRing eira but i'm now realizing that was because bingle was saying so. and bingle flipped red. so that wouldn't make sense

you have not brought much content to the table, elements

ZZZX is my preferred lim target just based on who is comparatively the scummiest. but they're
also
very coasty like you so

Idk, you can make the fact I was coasty as an excuse to lim me, but reality is that I've been busier than I'd like. And I don't coast to avoid playing the game as scum. Buut anyway

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:17 pm

In post 2714, Cook wrote:
In post 2709, Cook wrote: i think i understand yeah

do you still have shots of your ability?
if so, we could kill zzzx and then have you target elements

knowing that, elements can't kill you, since they'd die too

There is a non zero chance of some weird ability messing things up. Never plan like that, unless you want to lose the game fast

Plan should be always to get scum, and get more info. We saw two kills, and if I am not mistaken, none claimed for the other kill, so we need to hit scum today or we lose simply. (Either that, or one lone scum with some funny ability resulting in an extra kill).

Hard to say

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:18 pm

In post 2766, Gamma Emerald wrote: Do you mean sliver cop? That would be anti-town if so

The unknown role keeps the alignment of the first role they roll, and then they can roll any ability of any role

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:19 pm

viewtopic.php?p=7774627&f=5&t=59348&use ... 5#p7774627

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:24 pm

No idea

I guess he just confirmed it, I am planning to read up on everyone here, and other than my read on cook after the events of yesterday, I don't have as concrete of reads. Which doesn't look good admittedly, but life got in the way and I am simply trying to get through the game by now so I can sort out stuff in life.

But I will give whatever effort I can do here, It is 2 AM by now and so I will go sleep soon, but I do promise in the next 2 days to give a full read list of everyone

And can we stop voting randomly like that, I'd rather not cause an early lim on someone, and then lose the game to a random mix of abilities

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:26 pm

Also, I am actually curious about what role converted to a VT. Maybe you can check what role was submitted? Because we already have a number of strong-appearing roles.

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:36 pm

In post 2777, ZZZX wrote: Also, I am actually curious about what role converted to a VT. Maybe you can check what role was submitted? Because we already have a number of strong-appearing roles.

Oh, nevermind, I read that NM picked all winners and got it all veto'd?

Ok, honestly sounds like NM alright

ZZZX · Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:36 pm

Anyway, I will hit the bed now, and I will read further afterwards

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:51 am

In post 2781, Cook wrote: i don’t exactly like Unknown Role but that does explain a lot thank you zzzx

Well, I liked to pick my roles around having the power to create controlled chaos (e.g. Death faker), having the power to win the game with the correct condition (Town pyro, dosing people who I think will survive to 3-4 man, and in a lim-lo night just ignite everyone else to try and win), or just believing in the chance (E.g. the unknown role), and it worked nicely since things like the unknown role aren't a death sentence if claimed (compared to other anti-town roles which if caught are 100% scum and you have to fake claim).

Although the roles I RNG'd in this game are tragic.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:52 am

In post 2783, Cook wrote: is it because they’re the not_mafia slot or is it because they’re in the not_mafia slot

Not sure what you mean, but in a sense I can believe those roles being picked by NM, but tbh I accepted that the VT claim is either NAI at best, or slight scum lean because its very avoiding, but I think reading on roles at this point doesn't help much tbh

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:52 am

In post 2784, Gamma Emerald wrote: uhhh I don't see the difference
I think the claim feels more dubious than what ZZZX claimed
it's perfectly believable, but it doesn't help us with much

Yea, more or less what Gamma said here

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:02 am

In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so? I've seen you try to talk about me very lightly yesterday, making me scum with random player of the day at random points, making me scum with other players regardless of their alignments, and somehow made me out to be both of WW and Mafia at a certain point. And your explanation is my D1 votes which, had me being with confirmed town now 100% of the time, when WW were on nono, I was on the other wagon, and the only case for me being teammates with WW is that I... wasn't on the mini wagon that formed on them at that point of time when I was away that day?

I told you earlier, I don't mind being scum read, I mind someone using bullshit to scum read me. Scum tried in my last game. They tried to make the fact I didn't have solid scum reads as a reason for why I am scum, or me being busy and away for a part of the game, or my "voting" being off because they didn't like it. But they failed to get me out, because it was all bullshit

Just like this time.

I still don't have a read on you, I need to ISO you and build a case, like I did in my last game, to decide on such with everyone else, but just like last game, the moment someone starts using crappy arguments to justify having a read, when it doesn't exist, it usually points to something.

... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:08 am

In post 2786, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2777, ZZZX wrote: Also, I am actually curious about what role converted to a VT. Maybe you can check what role was submitted? Because we already have a number of strong-appearing roles.
I mean you're a werewolf.

So you think there's one scum left? Is it gamma or elements?

I donno, hard to say if 1 scum with an extra NK ability, or two.
12v3v2 could be it, but it feels a bit weak, 11v4v2 seems like a bit too anti-town, and 12v3v1v1 makes no sense, most realistic case is something like 12v3v2v1. So probably a wolf and a third party. if I had to guess. But we have no info on it what so ever at the moment. Especially as we only had one night with an extra kill which is interesting. Meaning there is probably some bulletproof role somewhere that is not being claimed, or a RB, and since none claimed either of those, we have a lying person about their role, and that person is most likely a third-party. At least that's my guess. But again its grandest idea so there is zero point in trying to find out for sure because we simply can't. Only thing we know is someone is lying about their role.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:12 am

In post 2798, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so?

In post 2793, ZZZX wrote: ... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.
just not into arguing anymore

between elements gamma and you i'm voting you that's it

sorry u had to type all that

but fmpov you're already sorted, aligned with itenerants. don't need to argue that for myself. and don't really care how others act anymore tbh i'm over this basically just want the game to end atp

Not anymore? We didn't even have a talk, or any discussion about it. So you admit that your read on me is just bogus? Fair enough.

Last I checked, you aren't confirmed town nor even close to that, if Cook, who is the closest to that, said it, I can somehow make sense of it, but you are basically saying you have it sorted and you aren't trying to win by convincing others into your point, or by verifying that information?

Sorry, I don't buy that.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:13 am

In post 2799, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2795, Cook wrote:
either way, NM totally would have picked those roles, that's something NM would definitely do

yeah i still think N_M got a vannila'd role at least

elements was town in the single scum game i played here
and i did drama bus the hell out of bbt there
and i did expect that you were voting me based on 'eira didnt hammer bingle' or such but it seems i was wrong
but me expecting it to come from u means i shouldnt take elements sussing me on it as scum indic

my only problem rn is im suspecting another scum
if there is has to be gamma and elements
and i ended d3 having heavy town feels on both
so
i can easily fall to bias trap and convince myself that someone's scum if they ain't
been pretty on point this game but know my luck doesn't always last
still scum cant really kill me so.... meh

maybe i should just vote zzzx and worry about this bs d5

There are definitely roles in grandest idea that can probably kill through the PGO, just so you know.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:13 am

In post 2800, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2740, Cook wrote:
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2731, Cook wrote: ...there's no chance there's two mafia left right
2 wolves maybe, but not 2 mafia
y'think wolves would be popular enough for that?
Perhaps, but I mainly think 2 mafia (which means 5 total to start) would never pass
btw for everyone stating the obvious but

Read iten flip
There is wolf pt

Means theres a wolf at least

That's a good point

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:15 am

In post 2802, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2760, Cook wrote:
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2755, Cook wrote:
In post 2752, Elements wrote:
In post 2751, Cook wrote:
In post 2747, Elements wrote: does it mean we could potentially force the kill on you?
then no, you didn't see it

okay, let's assume there's
3
Town
(me you gamma),
1
Mafia
(ZZZX for this exercise), and an
Alien
(eiralox) or someone with an extra kill, doesn't really matter how they got there

we vote out ZZZX, and then gamma kidnaps me. eiralox shoots gamma, killing both me and her at the same time.

by tomorrow morning, we have:

eiralox (
Alien
) and you (
Town
)

aliens win
yea, that is what I saw

I'm thinking Gamma will target between me and eira
that way you are the only safe kill
seems solid

gamma what do you think of elements' plan
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote: nothing, i'm just pinging it

???
target between elements and eiralox, but don’t tell us which

forces the kill onto me
I,ve never read this page even

Yall know how pgo works right

If gamma is town kidnap that means 2 town deaths, elements scum kills u scum wins

Kidnap can also not be used, or be used on scum, why are we assuming the worst only?

If we hit scum today, kidnap can be used for a 50-50 on scum, or simply be not used since the chance of bulletproof means it might not be worth it with the way things are.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:16 am

In post 2809, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2805, Cook wrote:

the thought was wifom i think

let's back it up though. ignore the kidnapper. to win, we need to kill scum today

as long as we can find one scum we can realistically find the other one, 33% chance or so
agreed but not really into mafia rn so becoming more of a town burden here but the last thing this game needs is another replace so im sticking with it

Im voting zzzx so the first 33 is hundreds for me. And unless theres some whacy role left i should still have my shot so on if i have to choose between gamma and elements and choose wrong theres a chance?

Dont wanna choose wrong. Fears rn are sr-ing elements cos theyre seemingly sus of me
And sr-ing gamma because i convince myself shes pocketing me

I could have taken either one of those paths already but i guess at least this day isnt dead does make it abit easier for me to have data to sort elements on maybe. Cos elements voted wolves and scum with me and gamma really felt town.

So eh tbh im so lazy and bored kinda hoped u could solve them

You know, I haven't read you enough to make a decision, but both scum in my last game had this EXACT same "ZZZX is definitely scum", without any real reason. Seems to be a common reoccurrence lately. And when I asked them it resulted in the same "Well its obvioous" answer.

I don't like it... or maybe I do, a little

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:17 am

In post 2817, Cook wrote:
In post 2815, ZZZX wrote: Kidnap can also not be used, or be used on scum, why are we assuming the worst only?

If we hit scum today, kidnap can be used for a 50-50 on scum, or simply be not used since the chance of bulletproof means it might not be worth it with the way things are.
ya true, we need to find two scum today if we're doing that though

True. I'd rather do it classic mafia style, focus on elim'ing scum, and reduce the chance of funky night actions losing the game.

ZZZX · Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:32 am

In post 2821, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2812, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2798, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so?

In post 2793, ZZZX wrote: ... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.
just not into arguing anymore

between elements gamma and you i'm voting you that's it

sorry u had to type all that

but fmpov you're already sorted, aligned with itenerants. don't need to argue that for myself. and don't really care how others act anymore tbh i'm over this basically just want the game to end atp

Not anymore? We didn't even have a talk, or any discussion about it. So you admit that your read on me is just bogus? Fair enough.

Last I checked, you aren't confirmed town nor even close to that, if Cook, who is the closest to that, said it, I can somehow make sense of it, but you are basically saying you have it sorted and you aren't trying to win by convincing others into your point, or by verifying that information?

Sorry, I don't buy that.
Im voting you today. Beyond that try and convince others not to vote you i guess. Or vote me and hope for the best.

Imo ur best play is voting elements and trying to get cook to do so as well. Gamma seems interested.

For your own sake lol cos im not really replying to more of this so save ur time

I have one goal, and one goal only, catching scum. And your posts clearly indicate that we are not sharing the same goal. And you are refusing to engage in a conversation.

You know, I will bite

VOTE: Eiralox

ZZZX · Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:54 am

In post 2843, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2838, Cook wrote:
In post 2835, Elements wrote:
In post 2829, Cook wrote: elements last was thinking about eiralox i think so...
I've thought it over and would much prefer zzzx
i could go either way but i think town just loses if i'm wrong
i have no idea how anyone wouldn't see me as town this point so don't choose wrong
zzzx isn't town and i'm past explaining anymore

shrug

ZZZX · Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:55 am

In post 2844, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: ZZZX

shrug ^2

If none of you are bothering to say anything, except "ZZZX scum haha" then I have nothing to add here

ZZZX · Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:57 am

In post 2845, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2687, Eiralox wrote: updated d1

Spoiler:

In post 101, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.1
iamveryhappy
(3) -
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
DragonEater70

BlueSnakelet
(1) -
Cook

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

Not voting:
Invisibility
,
BlueSnakelet
,
DkKoba
,
MegAzumarill
,
Arko
,
patchwork
,
Flavor Leaf
, Radical Polaroid,
Nono
,
Guillotina
, ZZZX

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

bbmola is not a valid vote as bbmola does not correspond to a player in the game.

In post 126, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.2
iamveryhappy
(3) -
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy,

DragonEater70

BlueSnakelet
(1) -
Cook

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

Radical Polaroid (1) -
MegAzumarill

DragonEater70
(1) -
Guillotina

Not voting:
Invisibility
,
BlueSnakelet
,
DkKoba
,
Arko
,
patchwork
,
Flavor Leaf
, Radical Polaroid,
Nono
, ZZZX

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 215, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.3
DragonEater70
(3) -
Guillotina,
ZZZX,
DkKoba

iamveryhappy
(2) -
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy

BlueSnakelet
(1) -
Cook

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

Radical Polaroid (1) -
MegAzumarill

Guillotina
(1) -
DragonEater70

Not voting:
Invisibility
,
BlueSnakelet
,
Arko
,
patchwork
,
Flavor Leaf
, Radical Polaroid,
Nono

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 344, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.4
DragonEater70
(3) -
Guillotina
, ZZZX,
DkKoba

iamveryhappy
(2) -
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy

BlueSnakelet
(1) -
Cook

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

Radical Polaroid (1) -
MegAzumarill

Guillotina
(1) -
DragonEater70

patchwork
(1) -
Flavor Leaf

Not voting:
Invisibility
,
BlueSnakelet
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid,
Nono

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 442, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.5
DragonEater70
(2) -
Guillotina
,
DkKoba

iamveryhappy
(2) -
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy

Guillotina
(2) -
DragonEater70
, ZZZX

BlueSnakelet
(1) -
Cook

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

Radical Polaroid (1) -
MegAzumarill

patchwork
(1) -
Flavor Leaf

Not voting:
Invisibility, BlueSnakelet, Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid,
Nono

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 426, Nono wrote:
@mod: v/la 12 hours or so, sorry and ty

Nono is V/LA today.

In post 501, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.6
Cook
(2) -
DragonEater70
, ZZZX

BlueSnakelet
(2) -
Cook
,
Nono

ZZZX (2) -
Guillotina
,
MegAzumarill

iamveryhappy
(1) -
Itinerants

DragonEater70
(1) -
DkKoba

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

patchwork
(1) -
Flavor Leaf

MegAzumarill
(1) -
camelCasedSnivy

Not voting:
Invisibility, BlueSnakelet, Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

Nono is V/LA until tomorrow.

In post 549, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.7
Cook
(3) -
DragonEater70
, ZZZX,
DkKoba

ZZZX (2) -
Guillotina
,
MegAzumarill

BlueSnakelet
(2) -
Cook
,
Nono

Guillotina
(2) -
Itinerants
,
Flavor Leaf

Not_Mafia (1) - Not_Mafia

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

MegAzumarill
(1) -
camelCasedSnivy

Not voting:
Invisibility, BlueSnakelet, Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 537, ZZZX wrote:
@mod If my maths are correct, Invisibility, Arko, Radical Polaroid should be prodded by now
It hasn't been 48 hours yet.

In post 672, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.9
Cook
(2) -
DkKoba
, ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

MegAzumarill
(1) -
camelCasedSnivy

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Itinerants
(1) -
pisskop

Not voting:
Invisibility
,
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid,
iamveryhappy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 708, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.10
Cook
(3) -
DkKoba
, ZZZX,
camelCasedSnivy

Itinerants
(2) -
pisskop
,
BlueSnakelet

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Not voting:
Invisibility
, Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid,
iamveryhappy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 747, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.11
Cook
(3) -
DkKoba
, ZZZX,
camelCasedSnivy

Itinerants (3) -
pisskop
,
BlueSnakelet
,
iamveryhappy

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Not voting:
Invisibility
, Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 754, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.12
Cook
(3) -
DkKoba
, ZZZX,
camelCasedSnivy

Itinerants
(3) -
pisskop
,
BlueSnakelet
,
iamveryhappy

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Not voting:
Save The Dragons
, Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

Clefable is not a valid vote as Clefable does not correspond to a player in the game.

In post 787, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.13
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
BlueSnakelet
,
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Nono
(1) -
DkKoba

Not voting:
Save The Dragons
, Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Arko
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

ZZZX is V/LA until September 15.

In post 800, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.14
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
BlueSnakelet
,
iamveryhappy,

camelCasedSnivy

Nono
(2) -
DkKoba
,
Cook

pisskop
(1) -
Itinerants

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

iamveryhapp
y (1) - Not_Mafia

Not voting:
Save The Dragons
,
MegAzumarill
,
Enchant
,
patchwork
, Radical Polaroid

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

ZZZX is V/LA until September 15.

In post 853, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.15
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Cook

pisskop
(2) -
Itinerants
,
Save The Dragons

Nono
(1) -
DkKoba

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

Not voting:
MegAzumarill
,
Enchant
,
patchwork
, Yimmy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

ZZZX is V/LA until September 15.

In post 906, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.16
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Cook

pisskop
(2) -
Itinerants
,
Save The Dragons

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

Nono
(1) -
DkKoba

Not voting:
MegAzumarill
,
Enchant
,
patchwork
, Yimmy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

ZZZX is V/LA until September 15.

In post 975, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.17
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Cook

pisskop
(3) -
Itinerants
,
Save The Dragons
, Yimmy

iamveryhappy
(2) - Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

Nono
(1) -
DkKoba

Not voting:
Enchant
,
patchwork

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 1041, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.18
Itinerants
(4) -
pisskop
,
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Cook

pisskop
(3) -
Itinerants
,
Save The Dragons
, Yimmy

iamveryhappy
(2) - Not_Mafia,
MegAzumarill

Nono
(2) -
DkKoba
,
patchwork

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

Not voting:
Enchant

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 1057, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.19
Nono (6) -
DkKoba
,
patchwork
,
pisskop
,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Itinerants
[E-2]

pisskop
(2) -
Save The Dragons
, Yimmy
Itinerants (2) -
iamveryhappy
,
camelCasedSnivy

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

Not voting:
Enchant

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 1079, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.20
Nono
(6) -
DkKoba
,
pisskop
,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy
[E-2]

pisskop
(2) -
Save The Dragons
, Yimmy

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

MegAzumarill
(1) -
patchwork

Not voting:
Enchant

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-22 08:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 1112, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.21
Nono
(7)
-
DkKoba
,
pisskop
,
MegAzumarill
,
Cook
,
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
[E-1]

pisskop
(2) -
Save The Dragons
, Yimmy

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

Cook
(1) - ZZZX

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

camelCasedSnivy
(1) -
patchwork

Not voting:

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1151, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.22
Nono
(5) -
MegAzumarill
,
Itinerants
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Save The Dragons
[E-3]

Cook
(4) - ZZZX,
DkKoba
,
pisskop
, Yimmy

Itinerants
(1) -
iamveryhappy

iamveryhappy
(1) - Not_Mafia

patchwork
(1) -
Nono

Enchant
(1) -
BlueSnakelet

camelCasedSnivy
(1) -
patchwork

Not voting:
Cook

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1221, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.24
camelCasedSnivy
(1) -
DkKoba

MegAzumarill
(1) -
camelCasedSnivy

Nono
(1) -
MegAzumarill

Not voting: Save The Dragons, BlueSnakelet, Not_Mafia, pisskop, Cook, Enchant, patchwork, Yimmy, Nono, iamveryhappy, ZZZX, Itinerants

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1268, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.25
camelCasedSnivy
(2) -
DkKoba
,
Enchant

MegAzumarill
(2) -
patchwork
,
Save The Dragons

Nono
(1) -
MegAzumarill

Enchant
(1) -
camelCasedSnivy

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia,
pisskop
,
Cook
, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
, ZZZX,
Itinerants

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1248, camelCasedSnivy wrote: ugh

@mod does being Rolestopped also affect day actions?

I can't answer that question.

In post 1451, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.26
camelCasedSnivy
(3) -
DkKoba
,
Enchant
,
MegAzumarill

Enchant (3) -
camelCasedSnivy
,
Cook
,
patchwork

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia,
pisskop
, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
, ZZZX,
Itinerants

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1548, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.27
camelCasedSnivy
(4) -
DkKoba
,
Enchant
,
MegAzumarill
,
Itinerants

patchwork
(3) -
patchwork
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
pisskop

Enchant
(1) -
Cook

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
, ZZZX

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1508, camelCasedSnivy wrote: @mod would a town martyr being exiled prevent deaths caused by the global Sacrifice ability

i usually feel bad asking mods shitloads of question but in setups like this its bound to happen

for real, this time
I can't answer that question.

In post 1633, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.28
patchwork
(3) -
patchwork
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant

camelCasedSnivy
(3) -
DkKoba
,
MegAzumarill
,
Itinerants

Enchant
(1) -
Cook

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
, ZZZX,
pisskop

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1683, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.29
patchwork
(6) -
patchwork
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Itinerants
,
MegAzumarill
, ZZZX [E-2]

camelCasedSnivy
(1) -
DkKoba

Enchant
(1) -
Cook

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
,
pisskop

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1716, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.30patchwork
(7)
-
patchwork
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Itinerants
,
MegAzumarill
, ZZZX,
DkKoba

[E-1]
[/b]

Enchant
(1) -
Cook

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
,
pisskop

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

In post 1721, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.31
patchwork
(8)
-
patchwork,

camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Itinerants
,
MegAzumarill
, ZZZX,
DkKoba
,
Cook

[EXILED!]

MegAzumarill
(1) -
Save The Dragons

Not voting:
BlueSnakelet
, Not_Mafia, Yimmy,
Nono
,
iamveryhappy
,
pisskop

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is frozen at 5 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

zzzx

1.3 votes
dragoneater
with 2 town(koba+guillotina)
1.5 votes
guillotina
with 1 town (dragoneater)
1.6 votes
Cook
with 1 town (dragoneater)
1.21 still camping on
Cook

1.22
Cook
picks up again with 2 flipped town + yimmy
1.28 after snivy dodges cook no vote till now
1.29
patchwork
(6) -
patchwork
,
camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Itinerants
,
MegAzumarill
, ZZZX [E-2]
1.31
patchwork
(8)
-
patchwork,

camelCasedSnivy
,
Enchant
,
Itinerants
,
MegAzumarill
, ZZZX,
DkKoba
,
Cook

[EXILED!]

Ah yes, me voting with confirmed town only means I am definitely scum. Except for when we voted for the Martyr

You know what, I am sold

VOTE: ZZZX

get me out. None of you want to have a conversation, and the peak excuse you had is "i prefer ZZZX" or "day 1 votes".

Eiralox is scum so I don't mind it from him, but shame on everyone else.

ZZZX · Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:58 am

Do whatever you want, I am hitting the bed

ZZZX · Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:12 pm

Gg, well done cook

No redactions from my side.