Toriel's Patience (end)

[Alisae]

Ego

[Alisae]

I would delete that too honestly

[Alisae]

im p confident I could win this game if it was like just a straight up sparing game and I got to be dictator

me too

[Alisae]

Who are you sparing first Ali?

ur mum

[Alisae]

im p confident I could win this game if it was like just a straight up sparing game and I got to be dictator

me too

in alisae i trust

[Alisae]

Ari u tell me if Beeboy is town when he posts we will invite him into our kingdom

[Alisae]

Ari u tell me if Beeboy is town when he posts we will invite him into our kingdom

i think he's town

me too
incredible!

[Alisae]

User Aristeia wants to chat

[Alisae]

Okay I'll read this game towards the later end of tomorrow.
I could have posted earlier but I wanted to see how many pages you guys would make before posting because quite frankly I think it's funny.

[Alisae]

It's totally nothing to do with the new pokemon fangame right

I mean that's one thing I would rather spend time playing/streaming (If I wasn't streaming it I would probably be doing nothing but playing it but since I try to be productive by streaming, I only play it if I can get myself to stream and I only go like 2-3 hours at a time when I stream it? Talking drains me more than playing the game) but also a new set came out for ptcg that's pretty hype and I've been playing with that a lot.

[Alisae]

happy cake day taly

[Alisae]

Nah no point just post when you're done

[Alisae]

alisae

do you have commentary on any of the thread atm? you seem quiet

I haven't even read the game yet

[Alisae]

pov you are alisae
You believe that you came across the best deck in the format and no one has realized it yet, not to mention the deck is fun to play.
Eager to play with it, you start playing online with it a lot you enter tournaments with it.
You wake up at 8pm, eat dinner, stream pokemon, take a break, suddenly its 6am and you think "well, there's a tournament in an hour from now might as well stay up and play"
you sign-up, you play 6 rounds of swiss (1 round of swiss is 30mins) and you go 5-1.
It's 10am and you remember you have to leave the house at 1 so you say "fuck it might as well stay up."
then you come home at 3 and then you realize there's another tournament at 5:30 so you say again "fuck it might as well stay up"
it is now 15mins before the tour, there are 140+ people signed up, and you are going to have to play 8 rounds of Swiss IF YOU DO WELL and then TOP CUT after that.

anyway so I'm probably not getting back to mafia games until I have slept.

[Alisae]

i play later tonight frfr

[Alisae]

fun fact i've been lazier than lazy shirou

[Alisae]

wait guys we have 11 days of deadline left.
I will post in this game SOON. Try to get to it tonight, and if I can't do that I will DEFINITELY be able to get to it tomorrow night, but I would like a chance to actually read the game and participate in the game that I signed-up to play before just getting murderized

[Alisae]

my allergies are killing me right now I don't think I'm going to be able to read 60+ pages right now I'm really sorry but I definitely will have time tomorrow night or tuesday when I wake up to read!

[Alisae]

yippee

[Alisae]

Hi Ydra!

[Alisae]

alisae I think is likely to be scum by PoE and the fact that e's had to keep making excuses about why eir not in the thread instead of just bearing that with confidence. im thinking back to Swinger's Hall where Alisae lost motivation very quickly once a town block formed and this feels like a similar scenario.

okay so this just so happens to catch my eye and a thought popped up.
I have been actively lurking and I probably could have caught up while the thread was like 35 or like 45 pages. I choose not to at that time because I thought "it would be fun to see many pages I could possibly get away doing this." I'm definitely sciencing here.
However I do like skim the thread occasionally when I wake up and I do see and understandable hear people going "Ali really needs to post." I understand that by this point in the game my perspective is going to be REALLY REALLY important and I do need to get into the game, not to mention I also WANT to get into the game and play it. If I didn't want to play the game I probably would not have signed up.
I have been messing around with treating mafia on low priority because quite frankly I almost failed senior year of high school because I only played this and it sucked so much time away from me. I have other things I wanna do now.

Anyway my point is, do you think it is specifically wrong of me to think & post "okay, maybe today I can actually catch-up with this game and get into it" while still keeping it on low prio and then do the things I want to do and suddenly I just don't rly have time for it? I could also just not post at all or blatantly prod dodge. Would this be more acceptable than saying "guys I'm going to play maybe tomorrow" and then "I'm going to play today frfr" and then "Guys I thought I could do this today I can't I apologize." Because I think giving everyone else that is playing an idea of when I will get into the game is more honorable than just blatantly prod dodging. Blatantly prod dodging just gives off the impression that I do not care and I think we can both agree that that is just objectively worse?

Like Mandate is right, I have reasons why I have not gotten into the game.
They're not good reasons, but they are reasons.

[Alisae]

OKAY

lets get started

[Alisae]

I'm more curious about why you think Keyleth is likely scum here, and I find that you're making scumreads quite quickly which is of note.

her tone feels a little performative in terms of expressing excitement but nervousness over and over again but i just realized while writing this that that might be an attempt to roleplay as the character keyleth

the main thing is the focus on posting and asking questions about things related to the setup or things that aren't related to anyone's alignment at all

clarifying a joke in 39

asking why you bold usernames in 47

setup talk in 52 and 63

71 feels like a question for a sake of question and not an attempt to sort me especially given there was no follow up thoughts about my alignment after i answered

i would just expect a town entrance to include something about someone's alignment before 89

keyleth is posting a lot but that hasn't really translated into approaching the game in a towny way

VOTE: Dannflor
Way too strong of a push for how early this post is into the game

[Alisae]

I'm interested in Alisae once they start playing because historically, though we haven't played together in a long time, I remember Alisae being like, exceptionally good at catching me as scum to the point where at one point i was kind of afraid to sign up for a game if they were in the player list. So I have some curiosity how their read on me will be. I don't think lurking is meaningfully scummy for them though at all, in my mind they're pretty tryhard as scum though of course it's been some years.

is it crazy I don't remember any of this

[Alisae]

okay i caught up
I think
Ari, Bee, Sakura, Shirou, Taly, and Key are all probably town.
Brown eyes is probably town as well.
Then there's Merlyn, Dunn, and Meuh. Meuh is kind of just unreadable to me.
And then there's Dann Implo Mandate
and I think Dann is the most suspicious. I think Dann's read on me is technically fine but I think they overexplained and overjustified it and I think that comes across as wolfy to me. They also screamed wolf to me early.
I think Dann is teammates w/ Implo

[Alisae]

Tbh beeboy is in the game so I don’t have to actually do anything and I can just let him do everything and then take credit for it afterwards

[Alisae]

Guy seems uninformed

[Alisae]

Like guy seems town don’t rly know how else to put it

[Alisae]

Flip a coin and decide that way

[Alisae]

okay i caught up
I think
Ari, Bee, Sakura, Shirou, Taly, and Key are all probably town.
Brown eyes is probably town as well.
Then there's Merlyn, Dunn, and Meuh. Meuh is kind of just unreadable to me.
And then there's Dann Implo Mandate
and I think Dann is the most suspicious. I think Dann's read on me is technically fine but I think they overexplained and overjustified it and I think that comes across as wolfy to me. They also screamed wolf to me early.
I think Dann is teammates w/ Implo

I was under the assumption that you haven't read at all, did you read every single page or how much did you get through?

Can you go into detail about your Ari read and anything else on your Dann read? Thank you!

I completely caught up
So how I catch up is once I form a read on a player I stop reading their posts.
Ari is completely a vibe she just rly comes across as town

[Alisae]

I believe they have reads

[Alisae]

Okay fine I actually will just post my notes now rather than type up some long summary.

Spoiler: post tags inserted

{Brown Eyes}
{Sakura Hana, Merlyn}
{mandate, key, alisae}
{dann, dunn, implo, beeboy} - null
{shirou, meuh}
{Aristeia}

(as of page 19)

good entrance from implo

mandate's 510 is a good post, although alisae isn't playing like how i'd expect him to play as scum in this setup
- shirou and meuh both are playing a lot more like this

dunn's 557 is a good post

like merlyn's vote on shirou in 566

minor mindmeld with implo's 573

aristeia's 593 comes across as fake aggression, Taly literally just says there that confontation won't help him sort, at this stage in the game the placement of the vote is really immaterial

shirou's analysis in 658 is mildly towny

dunn's 677 is tonally weird / stiff. very bizarre and mechanical way to talk about wagons

implosion's scumread on taly in 696 at a point where most of the pressure on taly seems to have disappeared seems town indicative

dunn's 721 vote on dann is odd given he scumreads ari and i'm pretty sure at this point a wagon exists on her

736 - shirou points out that there's a lack of a "leader", which is somewhat true. likely mildly town indicative for mandate, alisae (depending on out of game business/activity), and potentially shirou himself, even if his intention is to be lazier this game

weak justification in 742

weird pop-in / return to the thread from merlyn in 771, same with the follow up in 784

830 - given what dannflor has said about who he thinks mandate is, this is almost certainly not a thought process he have / a strategy he would believe would be effective (aristeia)
- also applies to dunn's 841

I can tell I'm getting to a bit of a denser part of the game anyways.

like this is ok

[Alisae]

I mean they're different contexts. I could give you a more elaborate answer on how I specifically operate but that's kind of not rly worth the energy and bee has you as townie so I'm not looking too much into it nor do I really care to right now

[Alisae]

I really wish I knew who Mandate was I think I have a good idea but I can't be sure and if I have a good idea then I would probably have to check again but even that's the case the guy probably is just mafia. either way just makes me think on the moment that flipping merlyn probably would not be a terrible idea as well.

[Alisae]

So you're saying Mandate/Merlyn are SvS? They imploded as a team and just???

Idunno what it says about Mandate but Merlyn could be worth flipping ya they would maybe bus someone like that

[Alisae]

Sakura i think if you were mafia you probably would have voted me and made some shit up about how I am TMI'ing you town or something

[Alisae]

Taly not everything is about you stop being so narcissistic /j

[Alisae]

Alisae, if I ISO you am I going to townbin you?

No

[Alisae]

I haven’t read Dunn I’m just going to wait until they get flipped

[Alisae]

Bingle can u read dann next?
He’s my top fos

[Alisae]

No, are you a penguin?

[Alisae]

I guess i'll go play some videogames, and come back with a clearer mind.
Then i'll try to figure out this mess.
But there's one thing that's been bugging me.
And that is Alisae.
I dont think Alisae Scum makes the kind of posts e did towards me.
In fact sometimes i think that i'm eir literal focus this entire phase.
Yet if Alisae's town, then i'm wrong somewhere.
And i need to figure out where my head is at.
My gut's telling me to vote freedom.
My mind's telling me to stay on Meuh.
My townreads say freedom's likely town.
My heart says Meuh's likely town.

I don't even know where to go anymore

Flips table

Ok, rant over, maybe i do really need to clear my head a bit.

from your pov it is okay to want to flip me

[Alisae]

VOTE: Freedom

[Alisae]

Dunn can hammer me if he really wants to, I really just have no clue what the fuck is going on in this game

[Alisae]

Does anyone wanna see a catch-up from me when I replaced into election day 1?
Maybe that might help people here

[Alisae]

viewtopic.php?t=90476&user_select%5B%5D=28780
Read up to Isolation #23 (you can see isolation number to the right of the post number), it should be quick

[Alisae]

i think alisae if scum is probably being bussed

My entire philosophy about bussing is a wiki article written by raybells

[Alisae]

lack of interest in the things being discussed

[Alisae]

I want bodies

[Alisae]

What's your take on

Dann

anything other than just looking at a page 4 post?

I don't like how he's spinning what i'm doing as wolf indicative

[Alisae]

dann's read on me makes me think he is full of shit

[Alisae]

Like I think it contrasts well w/ how everyone else has a read on me because like Dann is the one person that comes to mind as someone who is actively trying to justify the position

[Alisae]

also I was trying to remember just what games it was that made implo scared of me which had me re-reading my older games and omg i am cringing so hard jesus christ

[Alisae]

ali

what would you do if you don't have a confident vote on anyone and its D1 and you have a widely suspected slot that you're voting and their recent posts make you think town.

Give your vote to beeboy, can't go wrong with that if you TR him

[Alisae]

Ali isn't really giving me anything to townread but on a gamestate level it does feel like that's what's about to happen

I don't think I even can be readable even if I post content tbh

[Alisae]

If majority is not achieved by deadline, I will privately contact the mafia to decide on behalf of the town.

WHERE IS BEE

[Alisae]

I have at least 5 townreads go work with those people

[Alisae]

I think i'll be able to get to this tomorrow work just kinda piled up this weekend :V

hi please solve this game and tell me who to vote tyvm

[Alisae]

beeboy waiting room

[Alisae]

3 days, 12 hours, 13 minutes

Realistically speaking we still have time to wait for Beeboy and I think the gamestate and people feeling forced to want to organize onto something is probably wolf motivated?
We realistically have at least 48 hours until we have to actually start thinking of someone to kill like we got time to burn

[Alisae]

I think Alisae's read on me is technically fine but I think they overexplained and overjustified it and I think that comes across as wolfy to me. They also screamed wolf to me early.

I think this explanation is overexplained and overjsutified and I think that comes across as wolfy to me.

[Alisae]

alisae

vote

meuh

with me

ask me again in 48 hours
I'd also just be happy if you voted Dann

[Alisae]

Like I don't understand the deadline pressure to feel like things have to be organized now and we have to kill someone new.
This village is not going to let deadline run out, I just don't see that being a thing that realistically happens. If people can't be there for end of day then (btw this game should just be plurality w/ majority option instead of LITERALLY LETTING WOVLES DECIDES WHO DIES THAT IS CRAZY) we can cross that bridge when we get there and take that into consideration then but until then we got time on the clock we can burn and I'm happy to burn through it.

[Alisae]

how do i read you V dann and NOT think its a "no u" contest?

I mean I read Dann off of intuition and Dann doesn't have much to go off of so it's literally is just a no u contest.
I would actually be more willing to consider this a TvT if Dann didn't come across as overexplainy and overjustified because my theory is that I feel like Dann instinctively as wolf just wants to look good and when you want to look good you are going to be overexplainy and overjustified because you want to look good and wolves want to be ironclad. The biggest way I read Dann is I go "ok does this guy want to be right and is he responding to things in ways that seem natural" vs "Does this guy just want to look good and does it make sense for him to be mafia here" and I think this is case of the ladder.

[Alisae]

ali how do you think a decision in 48 hrs will be any less scum-driven in this gamestate?

I just want to hear from beeboy

[Alisae]

he's a busybee but I have faith in him

[Alisae]

I'm not entirely getting why Ali wants to wait for beeboy but it's probably because they don't have any strong reads.

you don't know who beeboy is so ya you're not going to understand it

[Alisae]

lmao im not even voting dann
VOTE: dann

[Alisae]

Meuh is a really hard player to read but I also have literally no grasp at how it is they play the game.

[Alisae]

the best way for me to read meuh at the current moment is to flip her

[Alisae]

Key what do you think about Dannflor

[Alisae]

oh you posted

[Alisae]

Alisae, can you talk to me on Dann? Because I think Dann's posting is very clean. Like it's polished and worked on, I can tell he puts thought into his posts in a way that is hard to replicate. It makes it easy to townread cause it looks like good solving. What makes Dann a wolf? Can you point me to your posts?

So, everything that you're describing is very realistically likely to come from Dannflor. Dannflor really likes deepwolfing and they will just look very good.
I think the biggest differences between a town!Dannflor and a wolf!Dannflor is that town!Dannflor has moments that are easily able to be identified as the guy just wanting to be right where as wolf!Dannflor will just opt to look very good. I think Dannflor is a wolf who does not want to be right on me and is doing literally everything in his power to try to keep me in poe.

[Alisae]

They will look good regardless of alignment*

[Alisae]

Beats me it's pretty hard to tell because only Dann was like main guy who pinged me

[Alisae]

You can vote Meuh.
Meuh is an unreadable player to me. I'll probably compromise there.

[Alisae]

I’ll give the iso another shot when I get out of the bath, fuck it wynaut
Freedom is rh9 and they replaced mandate who is presumably raybells?

[Alisae]

Idunno who mandate is and I think it’s raybells I can’t think of anyone else I mentioned the game he implied I was playing and that’s kind of a big deal but if not then idunno who it is and it matters for me when reading that player

[Alisae]

Was mandate actually raybells?

[Alisae]

That is pretty funny actually lol

[Alisae]

Now I don’t even wanna vote you anymore
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

Oh boy ok

[Alisae]

Alright let’s take a look

[Alisae]

Is there some kind of summoning magic I can do to summon Klick into this mafia game to read Rh9 for me?

[Alisae]

i don’t have great conviction right now but i just have a suspicion that scum would be pushing me as a deepwolf here because like that’s just the most obvious way to start breaking up some of the more consensus town reads

I don’t disbelieve your scum read of me anymore

but freedom’s feels slimy

and he’s been occupying that middling null space all game that I’d expect scum to be in a game like this

I mean I remember Mandate saying over and over again they have a very confident read on merlyn so like I'm down to flip the slot

[Alisae]

VOTE: Freedom

[Alisae]

hi back i'm alisae

[Alisae]

i would clear mandate slot too off a freedom scum flip

I wouldn’t they love bussing weaker wolf players but this is just in a vacuum

[Alisae]

If meuh flips town it has wolves all over it

[Alisae]

Is nurse being prodded or replaced?

[Alisae]

Honestly can you just not opt to replace into a game if you literally just never have the time for it

[Alisae]

tomorrow morning (real)

Please we need your guidance

[Alisae]

VOTE: Freedom

Btw I’m not complaining about you above idunno if that’s care.
Only reason no one wants to go nurse is because their predecessor was Ari that’s actually just the only reason

[Alisae]

Or it’s mafia that could be another reason but I refuse to believe that

[Alisae]

It is now morning

Hi bee tell me what to do

[Alisae]

I mean Dunnstral isn't even voting and we're on evens so that should speak volumes

[Alisae]

Votecount 1.12

() -

he/him

Dannflor

(1) - Bingle

he/him

Random Nurse

(0) -

View this user's profile

Lazy Shirou

(0) -

He/him

Bingle

(0) -

Meuh

(7) - Ydrasse, implosion, Taly, Lazy Shirou, Keyleth, Freedom, Sakura Hana

She/her

Sakura Hana

(0) -

She/her

Freedom

(3) - Dannflor, Alisae, Meuh

he/him, they/them

Keyleth

(1) - Random Nurse

She/her

Ydrasse

(0) -
She

Alisae

(0) -

Taly

(0) -

He/She

implosion

(1) - beeboy

he/him

beeboy

(2) - Dunnstral, Toriel

Not Voting

- (0)

(expired on 2023-11-17 12:17:50)

Like look at this count lmao

[Alisae]

Meuh (7) - Ydrasse, implosion, Taly, Lazy Shirou, Keyleth, Freedom, Sakura Hana
Nurse AFK
Meuh on Freedom
Me and Dann are voting off.
Beeboy AFK just voted Freedom
Bingle is following his soul

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ydrasse
If we assume Meuh town and she thinks Merlyn is town, Ydrasse is just the best flip here I think we should go Ydrasse

[Alisae]

it's a hunch

[Alisae]

VOTE: meuh
i’m okay with wagons between meuh and alisae right now

I want to flip this

[Alisae]

2461 to me also just looks like there is a bunch of town offwagon.

[Alisae]

Maybe it's like Ydrasse, Shirou, Implosion, Freedom

[Alisae]

that's just purely guesswork looking at that votecount

[Alisae]

Is it complacent with the current wagons-- the notion that scum is complacent with the current gamestate

[Alisae]

OH WAIT 3 player wolf team 3 mafia ok

[Alisae]

idunno why I had a 4 player wolf team in mind

[Alisae]

You have to understand, I think it's 8 to elim since 14 players.
The doublevoter is not voting.
Village needs 8 votes to vote off a wolf while Mafia needs to convince 5 villagers. If you convince the doublevoter, you need to convince 3 villagers other villagers.

[Alisae]

VOTE: ydrasse

[Alisae]

All of the people that immediately are like "OK NEXT INACTIVE" are mafia

[Alisae]

All of the people that immediately are like "OK NEXT INACTIVE" are mafia

Agreed, but I’d probably look into Shirou/key, then the others that I haven’t read posts from yet, then Ydrasse. Idk if you have deeper suspicion you’re basing the Ydrasse read on.

Mandate slot is a good flip

[Alisae]

shhh,

dunn

is town and is getting flipped regardless, dont worry about it

Is that a Toriel mechanic or because Dunn is Toriel they are going to get flipped regardless?

Dunn always dies

[Alisae]

mimimimimimimimimimi
that's what you sound like shirou god

[Alisae]

you voted meuh literally shut up

[Alisae]

you voted meuh literally shut up

YOU FUCKING SHUT UP

mimimimimimimi

[Alisae]

I really should have killed you yesterday Ali

sounds like you don't care about my alignment!

[Alisae]

Will you shut up if Ydra flips town?

I mean I don't say much anyways

[Alisae]

we're not doing mercy anymore.
We are straight-up just flipping every single player on the meuh wagon

[Alisae]

implosion, Keyleth, Ydrasse, Dunnstral, Sakura Hana, and Freedom

Let's kill all o fthese people.
Well
let's not kill Sakura and let's not kill Dunnstral. Also Taly's name is supposed to be here but we're def not killing her.
and then we can add shirous name onto the list for shits and giggles

{implo, keyleth, ydra, shirou, freedom} ya let's kill all of these people

[Alisae]

well if the people he suspected were town then he's probably mafia

[Alisae]

Alisae, we should talk because your recent posting is making me feel a bit, odd? Like, I know I have a weird way of playing so I can respect unconventional means of town reading or replaying the game yet I don't get where your head is? Maybe that's on me, and I want it to be. Can you talk to me more on your reads because I see you have a good list of Poe where a lot of others have not yet you caught up so late were there like, any really good or bad posts that made you town or wolfbin someone?

Bee is town
Ari slot is town
Bingle is town
Dunnstral I don't care to form a read on but gun to head town
Taly is town
Sakura is town

ok great that leaves me w/

Dannflor
Lazy Shirou
Merlyn/Freedom
Keyleth
Mandate/Ydrasse
implosion

i kind of don't want to fight Dann anymore after whatever that was
{Ydra Freedom} probably has a wolf in it I think it's Ydra. It can have 2 wolves in it.
Implosion I've just never townread.
Shirou I want to townread but I probably shouldn't
and then there's you
you exist and ig I want to TR you but like I probably shouldn't

Either way I'm pretty much very happy with just flipping the entire Meuh wagon

[Alisae]

VOTE: freedom

[Alisae]

I didn’t get the impression that mandate was RC.

I do

[Alisae]

Is RC surprisingly reasonable now?

Irrelevant.

[Alisae]

I can’t think of anyone else in the pl that would have a good idea as to what I was doing other than raybells

[Alisae]

Maaaaaybe Koba but I don’t think I mentioned it to them specifically

[Alisae]

We flippin freedom boyz

[Alisae]

I am in fact playing the game

[Alisae]

i need a votecount

[Alisae]

I might vote Implosion actually

[Alisae]

killing implo is also something I want to consider tbh
VOTE: implosion

[Alisae]

Who townreads him again?

[Alisae]

Implo is like that slot u know is mafia but it gets to get away with bloody murder before it gets killed

[Alisae]

I wanna fight so I can just kill everyone on d1 wagon

[Alisae]

I can’t kill everyone on d1 wagon if we spare

[Alisae]

you can just spare everyone not on the d1 wagon alisae

WHAT

[Alisae]

Not immediately

[Alisae]

maybe ydra isn't town

[Alisae]

Since when did Shirou become a grumpy person

[Alisae]

yep I pretty much stayed in bed all day

[Alisae]

can we just kill implo

[Alisae]

dunnstral, dannflor, implosion, aliase, keyleth, lazy shirou-

help

U think I’m a helicopter parent sink or swim bitch

[Alisae]

Keyleth, Lazy Shirou, Taly, Sakura Hana, Dannflor, Dunnstral

oh look
it's the same people that decided to kill meuh

[Alisae]

Not Voting - (2) Ydrasse, implosion,

this is more funny tho

[Alisae]

sorry freedom

ugh im just killing town this game huh

how did u not see that coming LOL

[Alisae]

oh wait you were on wagon nvm

[Alisae]

ya idunno i wanted implo because I stopped feeling Freedom after RH kept talking about what he was going to flip

[Alisae]

I kinda feel like way more people would have wanted to go Implo if he was actually town but like idunno whats going on lol

[Alisae]

I wanna kill people but we are fucking awful at killing the right people huh

[Alisae]

Meuh-Only Wagoner: implosion, Ydrasse

not voting d2 btw

[Alisae]

the fuck am i going to do I'm just one voice

[Alisae]

Either way I think I want alisae as the first spare if we are going that route and I’m putting my weight behind whatever lim alisae supports if we fight.

Lmao

[Alisae]

Does anyone that’s like not dann shirou think I’m mafia?

[Alisae]

what does a spare map potentially even look like

[Alisae]

I feel like I just sped things along, really. I saved us waiting for several days before people hammered meuh and then freedom.

I would have actually liked to see what happens if you essentially removed your vote from play

[Alisae]

And yes
90% chance nothing changes
I am aware of that

[Alisae]

I mean I'm a much different player than I was 5 years ago but I assure you that nowadays I can have a pretty slow start into games

[Alisae]

i lean towards that post being written by a villager hmmmmmm

[Alisae]

Ya know what Implo
ok
ya if ur mafia and ur tactic to try to get me to change my mind is to yell at me then ya ok go you ig cuz I'll reward it

[Alisae]

Dannflor
Aristeia was replaced by Random Nurse replaced by RCE (isis update your thing) - town
Lazy Shirou
Brown Eyes was replaced by Bingle -
Dunnstral - it flips.
Sakura Hana - I want to TR this?
Keyleth
Mandate was replaced by Ydrasse - Wolf
Taly - town
implosion - town
beeboy replaced by ssbm_kyouko (isis update your thing) - town

[Alisae]

bingle key shirou dann
ig i tr bingle I don't know if I should

[Alisae]

being rce's most confident tr is lmao and probably town indicative because the guy wants to immediately spare me and that is wild especially if mafia so like that's probably town

[Alisae]

I find it really hard for ydra to actually change in my reads I think that's something that just never changes

[Alisae]

kyouko is probably town she's pretty wild for a replace in she seems uninformed

[Alisae]

taly has 800+ posts okay

[Alisae]

like somehow i am so disconnected from the game but also untouchable literally how

[Alisae]

Plus with the whole mercy route that works in favor cause all you gotta do is find the super duper obvious people and yay! You win.

Although I guess you could go the fight route but I just assumed everyone like me joined for the mercy route.

Look at this:

If Mercy is chosen, for the rest of the game subsequent eliminations are flavored as sparings and town wins if town spares four townies and loses if it spares two mafia.

The day 3 elimination is Toriel.

This is what I initially missed, if we spare then I end up as one of the spared people, rather than simply leaving the game. So you're not supposed to know what route we are going for yet.

So like we take a second public vote D2 on if we think you're town or a wolf and make a vote based on that? Okay, I see.

Wow glad I'm not a wolf way too much pressure.

im glad I'm not a wolf way too much pressure

Way too much pressure yo it would be like 101 kpa

all of this into this makes me think Key townie

It comes across as a very forced towntell, Keyleth.

[Alisae]

Who is actually for suresies town

Keyleth RC Taly Sakura Dann Implo

BE should self resolve
Aristeia isn't town for sure but I don't think I'm limming her in the first 2 days ever
Dunn isn't relevant for now

Ali Merlyn Meuh Shirou Beeboy

revision

maybe {Ydra + Shirou} has a wolf maybe 2 wolves

[Alisae]

what if
mandate town
dunnstral wolf
shirou wolf
dannflor wolf

[Alisae]

im not sure I really feel that :/

[Alisae]

Keyleth what exactly are your reads

[Alisae]

man I sure hope dunn is actually town because if not I'm probably never finding dunn wolf

[Alisae]

HEAL:

[Alisae]

oh look its taly

[Alisae]

hi taly

[Alisae]

no

[Alisae]

that's part of why I like RCE

[Alisae]

i think that slot is town

[Alisae]

Ok I concede to that

Ali

what happens to your reads if

Dunn

flips town?

well I probably don't like mandate very much

[Alisae]

mandate from my pov would have pushed exclusively town

[Alisae]

well considering that guy usually doesn't have awful reads as town I think they're mafia

[Alisae]

if ydra is town i'm probably flipping shirou

[Alisae]

if ydra is town I have a feeling dunn might just flip mafia as well

[Alisae]

a what

[Alisae]

VOTE: end phase

[Alisae]

what if we want the phase to end early

[Alisae]

Bingle you'll be a skeleton by the time its 2027

[Alisae]

how dare you talk to me in that way

[Alisae]

I don't really care or feel compelled to do answer to you

[Alisae]

wHaT abOuT mE

AliSaE

shut up stupid bird I always ignore you

[Alisae]

Lol sorry if I tanked your spare chances Ali.

It’s ok I’ll just spare the right people

[Alisae]

honestly this is winnable even if dunn is wolf

[Alisae]

just spare the people I want you to spare and you'll be good

[Alisae]

I think shirou might be tmi-ing Dunn scum here, tbh. This looks like a really shitty bit of theater to distance.

if dunn is a wolf then the team is dunn dann shirou gg

[Alisae]

I am actually almost certain that ydra is town if dunn is mafia

[Alisae]

Isn't Dunn just town? It feels a bit cruel to play like this if he isn't.

If they're a wolf, they're having a lot of fun.
Most wolves in this situation would just opt to post nothing

[Alisae]

That would be beyond shitty theater

Do you think I'm shitty at theater, Bingle?

Or is the most likely answer just that Dunn's posts feel off and there's other players that feel similarly too?

Are you mad because I'm right and it was really shitty theater?

TRUUUUUUUUE

[Alisae]

I should start to just post gifs and meme again, especially now that I can't be mislimmed anyway

trying to effort in this game is making me mald and I don't like that

I am everything lazy shirou wishes he could be

[Alisae]

while i also feel like

{ali/bingle/rce}

hasnt really been resisted as a group to leave out, i feel like this has also does not have more than 1 scum

The one person you could be skeptical of in this grouping is Bingle but like I'm not

[Alisae]

this is my ideal f4 btw
dann
shirou
Mandate was replaced by Ydrasse
Brown Eyes was replaced by Bingle