Maybe dunn becomes more obviously town later on or maybe the discussion of mercy/fight comes up later but as of page 66 and after seeing town-town lims I'm not sold and I think people should be reevaluating instead of once again rushing headfirst
In post 3312, Isis wrote:
Keyleth, Lazy Shirou, Taly, Sakura Hana, Dannflor, Dunnstral
oh look
it's the same people that decided to kill meuh
I like this line of thought though
Freedom and Meuh Wagoners:
Taly
, Sakura,
Dunn
, Keyleth
Meuh-Only Wagoner:
implosion, Ydrasse
Freedom-Only Wagoner:
RCEnigma, Shirou, Dannflor
Off Both Wagons at Elimination:
Alisae, Bingle, ssbm_Kyouko
Everyone should succinctly give their spare order of
3.
I have thoughts I don't want to say at the moment
Like according to this there were 4 players on both wagons and one is getting yeeted before we move to D4. We can go kill route and kill all 4 of these players and we only lose if all 4 of them were town.
I think the towncore is likely infiltrated and sparing is a lost cause
In post 3399, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Also I dont understand why mercy is the foregone conclusion here, that seems questionable, like yall have been wrong twice and there's a rush to potentially spare scum!Dunn putting us immediately into a situation where we have to dodge scum spares for what, 4 days straight?
And nobody seems to be considering this
I was told the alternative was scummy. I think the EV favors mercy but eh.
In post 3399, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Also I dont understand why mercy is the foregone conclusion here, that seems questionable, like yall have been wrong twice and there's a rush to potentially spare scum!Dunn putting us immediately into a situation where we have to dodge scum spares for what, 4 days straight?
And nobody seems to be considering this
I was told the alternative was scummy. I think the EV favors mercy but eh.
At rand it probably does, at least it seemed to from implosions post, but we're now down 2 town
In post 3312, Isis wrote:
Keyleth, Lazy Shirou, Taly, Sakura Hana, Dannflor, Dunnstral
oh look
it's the same people that decided to kill meuh
I like this line of thought though
Freedom and Meuh Wagoners:
Taly
, Sakura,
Dunn
, Keyleth
Meuh-Only Wagoner:
implosion, Ydrasse
Freedom-Only Wagoner:
RCEnigma, Shirou, Dannflor
Off Both Wagons at Elimination:
Alisae, Bingle, ssbm_Kyouko
Everyone should succinctly give their spare order of
3.
I have thoughts I don't want to say at the moment
Like according to this there were 4 players on both wagons and one is getting yeeted before we move to D4. We can go kill route and kill all 4 of these players and we only lose if all 4 of them were town.
I think the towncore is likely infiltrated and sparing is a lost cause
HURT:
I like the line of thought but some things to consider:
The odds that the entire scum team are in the town block is low.
The odds scum got Toriel and the other two solidified themselves in the town bloc is… I was gonna say lower but probably not.
If the town bloc is compromised and scum lead both lims then the difference between mercy and fight only comes down to dunns alignment because scum will still have major control over lim targets.
Would also have to consider Taly scum which I’m not thrilled about.
Either way I think I want alisae as the first spare if we are going that route and I’m putting my weight behind whatever lim alisae supports if we fight.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
I was under the impression that Mercy was a foregone conclusion at this point, but since you're asking about it i'll give my opinion on the matter.
I personally went for Mercy because implosion's EV post seemed to imply it had the highest chances of winning, and i found it unlikely we'd end up townlocking 2 scum or at least sparing them before sparing 3-4 town.
But then now i remembered that Dunn could potentially be scum, I know i townread him before, and I wonder if going after beeboy and then townlocking kyouko for the beeboy rep out is something scum!dunn would do.
In post 3399, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Also I dont understand why mercy is the foregone conclusion here, that seems questionable, like yall have been wrong twice and there's a rush to potentially spare scum!Dunn putting us immediately into a situation where we have to dodge scum spares for what, 4 days straight?
And nobody seems to be considering this
I just realized this, but, it didnt hit me before.
If dunn is scum, not only means we have to dodge scum spares 4 times in a row, but also there would be 3 NKs in between.
That's... about 7 townies that we need correct when we're already two down, and scum wont be doing us any favors by killing non consensus TRs either.
Ok, I still think Dunn is town, im gonna trust myself on this.
If i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but i won't learn from my mistakes otherwise if i keep second guessing myself everytime there's a little bit of paranoia.
In post 3407, RCEnigma wrote:
Either way I think I want alisae as the first spare if we are going that route and I’m putting my weight behind whatever lim alisae supports if we fight.
ssbm what you're positing is that I could be mafia and mafia have infiltrated the "town core" elsewhere? In that case I have no reason to be hammering people, really.
I feel like I just sped things along, really. I saved us waiting for several days before people hammered meuh and then freedom.