Kemusan - Game Over

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ydraaaaaaaaaaaa

Ydraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ydddddraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

guess what

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fb is town

STD is also town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm having too much fun being high and posting youtube videos and memes as interrogative lines of thinking to care enchant tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if the game becomes a hellhole, at least i'll always have Chunky

he's dead

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DK

CHUNKY'S DEAD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i have no idea what LLD is talking about nor do i care.
but hi LLD how do u do

i'm both memeing and asking if you're sure STD's town cause i ain't STD stinky

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but i'm doing great tbh i've resolved to only post in this game while i'm high if i can help it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i don't know why i didn't do this years ago high mafia is mafia with zero consequences

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i have no idea what LLD is talking about nor do i care.
but hi LLD how do u do

i'm both memeing and asking if you're sure STD's town cause i ain't STD stinky

Probably

STD has good instincts on him. I trust his intuition. Although that doesn't mean he couldn't pocket me.

fb it's really easy to point at you and go "good doggo whose a good townie doggo" and then get this reaction

like, it's not that you're an easy pocket

it's that calling you town for being -insert FB personality trope here- is like the most cold take i can think of, and i used ot live on an icy artic island

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think I've done anything to be tr or sr

you stinky

the way you post makes me not trust you, normally you have this glowwwwww man

the townie GLOW

but rn you stinky

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is there any downside to pairing with ydra besides pairing with ydra.

Because.
Oh wait I already paired with them once, it would be wrong to dance with the same partner twice.

Wait did the last dance game I play in even have an IC.

Okay, okay focus Bell.

Who are the ladies?

LLD.
I can’t read the rest. I am so goddamn tired agh.

hi i am a lady it says in the name Lady LambdaDelta

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD is lying they are always posting while high, eliminate all liars.

Or in this case, don’t dance with them.

no i swear officer snoopy i normally try in mafiagames but this time i wanna not do the whole hypervigilance try to hard thing and weed is so goooodddd for that

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do you really think I'm a paragon of spicy takes

only in survivor

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, though, should already be able to read me off my posts so far.

And, he better get it right.

wine about it more :smugcat:

[Lady Lambdadelta]

get it, cause, wine? like wine cabal?

you get it i'm funny

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i have no idea what LLD is talking about nor do i care.
but hi LLD how do u do

i'm both memeing and asking if you're sure STD's town cause i ain't STD stinky

Probably

STD has good instincts on him. I trust his intuition. Although that doesn't mean he couldn't pocket me.

fb it's really easy to point at you and go "good doggo whose a good townie doggo" and then get this reaction

like, it's not that you're an easy pocket

it's that calling you town for being -insert FB personality trope here- is like the most cold take i can think of, and i used ot live on an icy artic island

when i say probably i am not saying i legit have a townread on STD. I was saying probably in the probalistic sense of randomness.

I think STD was mostly memeing with townreading me and I was just memeing back. But I do think STD has very good reads and is often not listened to so I want to keep him around even if I do get skeptical because I think he will be obvious later or if town give me good direction on mafia.

this post is too serious and makes too much sense stop making sense and let me call std stinky

[Lady Lambdadelta]

get it, cause, wine? like wine cabal?

you get it i'm funny

ur high, u would think anything is funny.

NOT TRUE

there's lots of terrible things in this world i don't think are funny

wait now i'm really sad

can you post cute growlithe pictures and cheer me up

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Maybe I don't like being called stinky :<

then make not stinky posts!

let me see the SHINING GLOW OF TOWN UPON YOU, STAR FOX

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, though, should already be able to read me off my posts so far.

And, he better get it right.

wine about it more :smugcat:

Whine?

Might need to get your eyes checked.

Who do you want to pair with?

i don't know friend, i have no illusions about living to the end of this game it's a dance game i'm here to find scum and meme about it

i'd preferably like to pair with someone i think is realllly townie so i can survive and impact the game and maybe force scum to kill me so there's no paranoia on me or someone REALLLYYYY scummy so i can leave the dance and go wheeee eat lead

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I actually still think fb is town for serious

bork bork bork bork bork

[Lady Lambdadelta]

that's doggo for "this post is stinky and you should talk about other slots"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ff is really stilted but I feel like that's just her

I have no l other reads at this time

You have no Bell read?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also swapped to phone while I dilate

[Lady Lambdadelta]

can you post cute growlithe pictures and cheer me up

omg look at the SCARFFFFF

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i am making so many squeeee sounds rn

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, though, should already be able to read me off my posts so far.

And, he better get it right.

wine about it more :smugcat:

Whine?

Might need to get your eyes checked.

Who do you want to pair with?

i don't know friend, i have no illusions about living to the end of this game it's a dance game i'm here to find scum and meme about it

i'd preferably like to pair with someone i think is realllly townie so i can survive and impact the game and maybe force scum to kill me so there's no paranoia on me or someone REALLLYYYY scummy so i can leave the dance and go wheeee eat lead

I wish I had confidence in sorting you.

i know

trust me dance games are my worst outcome because I barely get to play them, because they are about confidence levels not scum reads and no one is ever confident with me as town even if I try to show it suuuuper hard

so im here for a good time not a long time, not that im gonna like, give up trying to show my downy SHINEEEEE but

i am not gonna delude myself either

[Lady Lambdadelta]

get it? downy instead of towny because im birb?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

firedoggo

firedoggo

firedoggo

Guess what

[Lady Lambdadelta]

On a game-related note, firebringer gives me town vibes.

okay std stinky but you're actually scum aren't you lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

trust me dance games are my worst outcome because I barely get to play them, because they are about confidence levels not scum reads and no one is ever confident with me as town even if I try to show it suuuuper hard

I think ur coming in with a good attitude. Hope u maintain it.
I think u would enjoy mafia more if u didn't care about how everyone is always going to be paranoid of u and just embrace it. Like maria does or something

i mean yeah, probably? it would also probably hurt my winrate as both alignments since i surrender a lot of control being this passive but i hate having to worry about everything?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm going to reread holiday dance party and check for similarities/differences between lld there and lld here.

i guarantee you are going to find nothing but differences lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm going to reread holiday dance party and check for similarities/differences between lld there and lld here.

What...

LLD isn't even made a legit readable post yet. How do u think sorting her right now would help.

wow hurtful i thought my doggo was pretty good? Did I conjugate "bork" wrong?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm going to reread holiday dance party and check for similarities/differences between lld there and lld here.

What...

LLD isn't even made a legit readable post yet. How do u think sorting her right now would help.

wow hurtful i thought my doggo was pretty good? Did I conjugate "bork" wrong?

Yes ur missed the "oark" in BOOOARKK"

on discord i have a "taking notes" emoji yhat I wish i could post here tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi I apparently want to post more than I want to sleep, can a few responsible adults please yell at me to go the fuck to sleep so I can fix my basement tomorrow.

lemme do my best Samuel l Jackson

Go.the fuck. To sleep!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AND 50k in damages flooding in my basement today.

Woooof

That sucks

No no that's wooarkff right?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi I apparently want to post more than I want to sleep, can a few responsible adults please yell at me to go the fuck to sleep so I can fix my basement tomorrow.

i am not a responsible adult

You probably would have let Pidgeon drive the bus, yes.

BTW ffery I'm 150% taking it for granted that you're gonna want to dance with me, I'll be waiting. You'll get there eventually. Let me know when! Or you know, faceplant. That's a choice too.

was that a mike Tyson mysteries reference

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AND 50k in damages flooding in my basement today.

Woooof

That sucks

No no that's wooarkff right?

Ur catching on to fast. Gonna have to put a hit out on u before I lose my cred for being expert in barkese

pls no ill stick to chirps and skrees and tseeers and caww from now on

[Lady Lambdadelta]

fferyllt desperately trying to blend here. Its adorable

It's okay she can just hide in a hood with me and post 80 pages in 24 hours, and then I'll let the thread know. (But she's already clearly eager to dance, so if she's scum, she has one HELLUVA team behind her, and no offense to anyone, but I'm trying to think of three names that ffery draws out of you lot that makes her this eager to go go go in her first game back, directly at me.)

hi

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo someone help me decide what to uber eats while I dilate

[Lady Lambdadelta]

im amazed i have this strong of a scumread on page 7
this is amazing.

I am never this confident this early.

ye did you take my confidence when I took an edible lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo someone help me decide what to uber eats while I dilate

I had these curry balls wrapped in a brown flakey crust today. It was just the right amount of spicey, sadly I didn’t ask the lady that gave them to me what they were called.

Oh damn

[Lady Lambdadelta]

im amazed i have this strong of a scumread on page 7
this is amazing.

I am never this confident this early.

ye did you take my confidence when I took an edible lol

gonna have to give u more edibles. I don't want to lose this feeling yo

i have good news for you about my plans for this game lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Are you sure you wanna go with what she’s trying to present herself as instead of what she’s usually like, which is somewhat awkward as scum.

That adage is about ten years out of date at this point in time.

Morph scum rehab was a THING.

Cabd and FF are scum, Pooky, I didn’t sign up for this.

okay but if you really think this cant we habe them pair up generate a solve while doing a few elims then leave to have their alignments proven so we know who and what to trust

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What is a kemusan anyway

ligma

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hello other fire

u know what they say about having two fires in one game, right?

There can be only one.

oh noooooo

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Both fires are town?

Pedit: what even is ligma anyway all the cool kids are talking about it

ligma ba-

Wait i dont have those anymore

Does that mean i can't do these jokes

Woahhh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Both fires are town?

Pedit: what even is ligma anyway all the cool kids are talking about it

also

STINKY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have about 2 minutes left in me before I actually do go shower and hit the hay, by the by.

okay quickfire reads list go

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have about 2 minutes left in me before I actually do go shower and hit the hay, by the by.

okay quickfire reads list go

TOOO SERIOUS

noooo

okay Uhhh

tsukihime character tierlist go

[Lady Lambdadelta]

dog on dog violenve

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i love love is war

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a slight tr on Fb.

I have a slight sr on ff.
I have a slight sr on cabd.
I’m somewhat (though I’m not sure why I should be) surprised LLD hasn’t made any AI posts I can interpret. So null, with a side of suspicion.
I don’t know what to make of fire’s 4 page yay I’m town thing. When I do it it means I’m scum because I just get excited and post a lot when I’m town instead of saying, yay I’m town.

But only I am that happy to be town so I don’t actually know if that’s alignment indicative it probably isn’t and it’s probably silly.

Ydrasse is scum.

bud

im making helps content here

rh9 is the scummiest slot in the game bud

[Lady Lambdadelta]

bud

im making helps content here

rh9 is the scummiest slot in the game bud

scum RH9 never pairs with u unless the plan is to suicide kill u

where is the pair offer tho bud

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I want to compare her tone before deciding if I should propose a pair with her or not.

unless u think this is fake fronting that he wants pair with u LLD.
I think scum stay far away from u unless the idea is suicide by cop

hmmm

I never considered that if i lay back and wait i am a poison pill scum don't want to swallow.
Huh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

im 4 pages in and im pretty sure everyone is scum

maybe not bell

wow rude

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i kind of want to troll and give LLD a dance request,
but i don't think its alignment indicative for her to accept

because I believe LLD believes she could pocket me as scum. So its not really a test. So its not a good test of alignment for me to do it and not that funny

For what it's worth id dance with you cause we would live a while and I could solve and then get PoE'd for the town win

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but yeah i am not

I lost track of this thought on the wat to the toilet lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD i don't exactly think is scum i think i probably won't be actually trying to sort her yet but she did this kind of highposting vibing as scum in PYP and i had a similar wary feeling about some things there. and i don't really love the std read

you don't even know what the std read is about lol

also I had planned to play this game high regardless of alignment becUss I wanted to play with my friends and not get frustrated at how cliquish dance games get so im here to be like, chill and solve

i can explain std stinky but it probably wont make sense to you unless you open your mind

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do you want the std stinky gospel?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD i don't exactly think is scum i think i probably won't be actually trying to sort her yet but she did this kind of highposting vibing as scum in PYP and i had a similar wary feeling about some things there. and i don't really love the std read

you don't even know what the std read is about lol

also I had planned to play this game high regardless of alignment becUss I wanted to play with my friends and not get frustrated at how cliquish dance games get so im here to be like, chill and solve

i can explain std stinky but it probably wont make sense to you unless you open your mind

being chill and solving is good

my mind is very open you can explain if you want

i think rh9 and std are both lightly towny so far fwiw

okay so like, follow me here

i draw town, sadge.png

i think "okay but what if i think like scum would and try to mind meld with the thread and if anyone mind melds me then STINKY"

i see FB, scum instinct says "call them town to position myself for later", STD does it.

stinky

then i see firered, fire AND fire. posting anime gifs.

"call both fires town for memetic value and get in on the take early so people value you as having called it, more positional value"

STD does it

STINKY

RH9 also does it, but sounds worse doing it

MEGA STINKY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i have given unto thee the stinky gospel

[Lady Lambdadelta]

cabd also not passing the vibe check to me but i have even less baseline there and also probably extenuating circumstances

Tbh one could write like, an entire seven to eight novel saga of the mutual history informing the way Ffery and I are gonna interact this phase and I don't want to like, involve people in our kink, but if you do opt in to knowing you are welcome to ask!

i want that novel, but only if you write it in iambic pentameter

[Lady Lambdadelta]

can i have stinky gospel thoughts pls

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i gave actual real effort into putting my thoughts to paper and no one paid attention but the scum who came in to defend hisself =(

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i give the gospel a D+

>=( i tried really hard and i didn't even pass

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD i don't exactly think is scum i think i probably won't be actually trying to sort her yet but she did this kind of highposting vibing as scum in PYP and i had a similar wary feeling about some things there. and i don't really love the std read

you don't even know what the std read is about lol

also I had planned to play this game high regardless of alignment becUss I wanted to play with my friends and not get frustrated at how cliquish dance games get so im here to be like, chill and solve

i can explain std stinky but it probably wont make sense to you unless you open your mind

being chill and solving is good

my mind is very open you can explain if you want

i think rh9 and std are both lightly towny so far fwiw

okay so like, follow me here

i draw town, sadge.png

i think "okay but what if i think like scum would and try to mind meld with the thread and if anyone mind melds me then STINKY"

i see FB, scum instinct says "call them town to position myself for later", STD does it.

stinky

then i see firered, fire AND fire. posting anime gifs.

"call both fires town for memetic value and get in on the take early so people value you as having called it, more positional value"

STD does it

STINKY

RH9 also does it, but sounds worse doing it

MEGA STINKY

i do understand the angle here but i also think that std and rh9 are two of possibly the furthest away players in this list in terms of closeness to you in scum thought process

and doubly i think the behavior is more or less what i would expect from them as town

ehhhh really?

STD and I have similar thoughts in survivor styling, and i've played enough mafia with them to know they calculate a few yomi layers deep.

i don't uh, know rh9 from a hole in the ground so admittedly you have me at a disadvantage there

idk, i think positional reading works and it's valuable

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i do understand the angle here but i also think that std and rh9 are two of possibly the furthest away players in this list in terms of closeness to you in scum thought process

and doubly i think the behavior is more or less what i would expect from them as town

this is why i gave it a D+
good work fireisred explaining shit i don't have to and being on my wavelength.
have more town points.

i'm pouting irl i need you to know this

i guess if multiple of you really think that both these slots are town for calling you town? i just, positionally i don't think they both can be though =/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i want to strangle bell so he's town probably

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i want to strangle bell so he's town probably

Have you even played with scum me.

yes

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh yeah, Shakespeare.
But I’m pretty sure out of all the games I’ve played with you, you wanted to strangle me the second most in that game.

you don't know how much i want to strangle you at any time lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh yeah, Shakespeare.
But I’m pretty sure out of all the games I’ve played with you, you wanted to strangle me the second most in that game.

you don't know how much i want to strangle you at any time lol

You would strangle a puppy?

depends on how annoying that puppy is

wait now i'm imagining strangling my ptsd puppy penny

i'm sad now this sucks

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh yeah, Shakespeare.
But I’m pretty sure out of all the games I’ve played with you, you wanted to strangle me the second most in that game.

you don't know how much i want to strangle you at any time lol

You would strangle a puppy?

depends on how annoying that puppy is

wait now i'm imagining strangling my ptsd puppy penny

i'm sad now this sucks

Would you kindly...... Not think that?

i'll yell at my brain more >=(
intrusive thoughts suck

[Lady Lambdadelta]

RH slightly up.
Fir I’m neutral on.
You and Cabd remain the same.
FB still town but some head scratchers now. I should probably just town bin them to spite them if they’re actually town.
I’m not trying to read LLD while they may or may not be baked, their acknowledgement request I’m not sure if they’re serious or if it’s manipulative or what I’m even looking at. You responded to it though, such a nice lady.
STD: they’ve been entirely unreadable except when they said they missed Cephrir which made me do a “I should maybe try to write a book about whether STD can be read on this one post”
It was surprising, that he missed Cephrir or even brought it up. I guess someone said something about them seeming comfortable which I guess might be true.

you mean i have to be sober to get read?

fuck.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don’t worry even if you were sober and I tried to read you I’d probably still be wrong.

that doesn't make me feel better

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i exist without weed

this is a travesty

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm gonna go eat hotpot

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think we are doomed

Was this meant for the scum QT lmfao?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like do we have an alt slip and a scum slip on the same page

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think we are doomed

Was this meant for the scum QT lmfao?

Gods you're so oooooold.

Hurtful, but accurate

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am being serious FYI. I dont contextually get Enchant's post

[Lady Lambdadelta]

skitter who do u think i should dance with

me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(in truth you should probably dance with Ydra, but)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am going to do something dumb

EYES?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ms Lady Lambdadelta,

I know the possibility of us together will only lead to chaos, we are not really a good fit for one another. I am a troll, and you are a refined lady. You seek to have a good prospect for your future, and I am a degenerate who can barely think about my lunch plans.

Our parents will not approve of this union, nor will others. A good portion of myself believes that you could manipulate me, but I have no long term plans to be around for that to take root.

So if you will have me,

Will you dance with me tonight, Lady Lambdadelta

I will gladly take this dance, may we blaze into the night skies with our joint flames!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I do feel like LLD is town which makes me feel bad for pairing with her knowing im just gonna nuke her

oh is this the only reason you paired with me?

can i just afk this game then and not try if you're just gonna nuke me lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I do feel like LLD is town which makes me feel bad for pairing with her knowing im just gonna nuke her

oh is this the only reason you paired with me?

can i just afk this game then and not try if you're just gonna nuke me lmfao

u do whatever makes u enjoy the game girl

if your plan is to nuke me off cooldown, what will make me enjoy the game is taking copious amounts of weed and making this thread unreadable with memes so town win% reduces so much that people stop doing this to me lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm already tilted, can i go back to playing while high where i'm not tilted

[Lady Lambdadelta]

it turns out giving a shit about my alignment and wanting to catch scum are negative effects on my health

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD if i just said i will not leave u ever, and just stay around. Shouldn't u be sus of me.
Lets not do this fight about this, I think u know i was planning on nuking who i paired with

no i genuinely didn't i assumed you were only ever going to nuke yourself out of this game like this if you were going out solo so you wouldn't also troll someone elses desire to play

i already explained that i expected some amount of limited life span but getting nuked on fucking CD is just like

why did i sign up for this game, then

[Lady Lambdadelta]

kay

[Lady Lambdadelta]

She’s not even fired up yet.

oh you're not getting fired up me, you're getting 70 pages of youtube videos and conversations about whatever my brain decides to think about until i die lmfao

if there's really no reasoning with him about it and this is just What He Has Decided To Do i'll just reciprocate the trolling with my own trolling

[Lady Lambdadelta]

as long as u enjoy what ur doing LLD. I do want u to enjoy the game

oh that hope died the second you told me that you literally only offered to me with the explicit plan of nuking me out of the game

i haven't played a game on this hellshit site in over a year because the culture here is a fucking cesspool and this is not improving my odds of playing again.

i am not enjoying myself, i'm going to go do literally anything but this and then express my displeasure in a way that i am given as a townie which is apparently my voice

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i genuinely thought you were going to at least give me until second dance to try and solve and play this game before i had to bow out or something

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why are u talking to me like i am town that needs to be reasoned with

because scum you doesn't offer to me with the intention of nuking me on CD because i'm not someone who is living to endgame ANYWAY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if im scum im trying to get rid of u as a threat. why do u think im not scum going to get rid of us a threat

cause in dance games i'm not a threat? lmfao?

if you're scum here and you're really pairing with me because you respect my ability to read this game THAT MUCH that you felt i needed to be removed on fucking upkeep step to prevent me from ruining the game for your team i will genuinely eat a hat

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why are u talking to me like i am town that needs to be reasoned with

because scum you doesn't offer to me with the intention of nuking me on CD because i'm not someone who is living to endgame ANYWAY

That is horeshit

it's literally not, my dude, but whatever

[Lady Lambdadelta]

scumplay in dance games is about putting one or two players into the town PoE and removing as many obvious townies as possible and if you're somoene with a limited lifespan you're outside that PoE so why do I need to be nuked from your PoV as scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why are u talking to me like i am town that needs to be reasoned with

because scum you doesn't offer to me with the intention of nuking me on CD because i'm not someone who is living to endgame ANYWAY

That is horeshit

it's literally not, my dude, but whatever

if u believe that, then ur complaining that im going to leave is u talking out of both ends of ur ass.

I won't immediately leave u once pairing is over. I am definitely leaving. So what do u want, to leave after intermission? U said ur going no matter what so when is the "best time" for u?

i told you, sometime in second fucking dance so i can at least try and solve and play

i already said this in my opening posts in the game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd, though, should already be able to read me off my posts so far.

And, he better get it right.

wine about it more :smugcat:

Whine?

Might need to get your eyes checked.

Who do you want to pair with?

i don't know friend, i have no illusions about living to the end of this game it's a dance game i'm here to find scum and meme about it

i'd preferably like to pair with someone i think is realllly townie so i can survive and impact the game and maybe force scum to kill me so there's no paranoia on me

or someone

REALLLYYYY scummy so i can leave the dance and go wheeee eat lead

[Lady Lambdadelta]

go for it LLD.
solve all u like, we are going in second dance then.

that's literally all i give a shit about, lmfao

it does somewhat ruin the like, ability for us to get shot in the middle of the night but frankly we're never being shot sooooooo

if you're giving me to like, mid second dance to say my peace and bow out and shit, i'll fucking take that. if i can't solve and give a PoE that wins the game from there i don't deserve to win this game lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why did you pair with fire?

cause i genuinely thought he would do the thing i'm describing for me, he sees me as town, he knows i'm valuable, and he's never NOT going to be paranoid of me... but in the past HAS literally alloweed a game to go through because he said he was certain on me being town and would not vote me (Tenet where i was scum) so there WAS a world where if i played well enough i get shot in the night which is like, the best world.

if i could catch two scum in dance phase 1 and get shot that was like, my dream

[Lady Lambdadelta]

we were never going to get shot lol

i mean, i can HOPE lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but if you're saying "we're nuking mid second dance once a PoE can be established" and not "I'm nuking you on CD before you can even try" then i've got 0 qualms lol

i've already embraced the limited lifespan, the change of plans pain here was not even getting to play the game i signed up to play with my friends

[Lady Lambdadelta]

jesus, so i've gotta find, what, 2 pairs that contain either nothing but town or at max 1 scum and identify that player as the scummy one to remove as a PoE?

outside chance at there being 3 scum within 3 pairs of players, probably never seeing 4 within 4 so i think if I can identify like, 3 pairs to leave alive as PoE, then figure out who to remove as a pair from that point and then who needs to die after that if the game still runs we'd be in good shape.

with that in mind, i'm gonna be V/LA for superbowl party we're hosting tonight, but next time you see me i'll be high and probably considering which 4 players I want to sit at the end of the game in that way?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

spiffers, if i said your pair had to die, what one pair or presumptive pair would you advocate for the hardest to be in the final PoE?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm too tired from hosting superbowl to pay attention, posting tomorrow lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

my scumteam looks something like one of Cabd/Ffery (I don't care to sort which it is but their interactions are poodo) Enchant, Rh9 and (someone who is somewhat townread and coasting to the end) because there is a lack of urgency in this thread for fighting over reads that scum would need to have to win this game. FireRed? HST? STD? Somewhere in there.

Leave RH9 and Enchant out as well as one Lady (FireRed), then kill Ffery/Cabd and see where we stand, is my current solve. I don't wanna go too deep into it, but if I can kill 5 players and see where we stand after that I'd be very confident in winning from there I think.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

that's my sober effort post for the day.

I'll also state that if a Lady isn't willing to sac themselves for leaving out two gentlemen, I prefer Enchant being left out over RH9 at this point but god just drown them both with Ffery and Cabd for me please.

Like even if we kill those 4 (and by definition kill the lady who pairs with the one of RH9 and Enchant we don't leave out) that's where I stand. I'd just prefer to take a shot in my Deep Wolf Pool while killing those 4.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

my scumteam looks something like one of Cabd/Ffery (I don't care to sort which it is but their interactions are poodo) Enchant, Rh9 and (someone who is somewhat townread and coasting to the end) because there is a lack of urgency in this thread for fighting over reads that scum would need to have to win this game. FireRed? HST? STD? Somewhere in there.

Leave RH9 and Enchant out as well as one Lady (FireRed), then kill Ffery/Cabd and see where we stand, is my current solve. I don't wanna go too deep into it, but if I can kill 5 players and see where we stand after that I'd be very confident in winning from there I think.

Uhhhhhh
I'm dubious

Yeah? Of which part precisely.

The part where Ffery and Cabd can't be S/S in this setup and never will be but their posting indicates they're not T/T because I'd know with certainty and be waving the flag for their defense if they were?

or The part where Rh9 and Enchant's posting has been ungodly slippery since what I'd describe as openings intended to ease into the thread and neither have shown me any real growth since then. Enchant is sticking to their troll first troll often strategy that makes them hard to read but i'm not getting what i expect to see from town enchant (where as town Bell is flyign the flag this game so, and i read them similarly) and Rh9 has not recovered from my initial problems with them and if anything have been seeking refuge behind people who are reading their style of play more charitably than they should.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

cause i'll tell you this much right now, i'm 100% that there's exactly one scum in ffery/cabd (they can't be S/S and they're just not T/T here to my eyes)

and I'm pretty confident there is at LEAST one scum in Enchant/RH9/FireRed

So I'm expecting my play kills 2 scum. At worst we're only getting 1 and at best i'm even better off than I think and we're getting like 3.

ALL of these outcomes I'm pretty pleased with. 1 isn't ideal but we'll survive.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree that cabd/ffery is not tvt

I really don't like the idea of limming through enchant/rh9 and forcing a lady to go unpaired (esp. Fire???) - my confidence level that we'll hit even one scum in these is not high and feels like we'd just be chaining a lot of 'town but hard to read' people here

I feel VERY confident that we find 1 scum in Enchant/Rh9/FireRed. But if you want to swap to another of the ??? Ladies who aren't paired I'll do anywhich one you want, because I'm more confident in Enchant/Rh9 than I am about any of the ladies tbh? I do think FireRed is my most suspicious of the ones I listed, though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m fine giving you two maximum time to try to solve the game without actually sparing either of you.

... oh.

oh no.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

uhhh, how do i handle this cursed knowledge, saying it is bad, not saying it might also be bad uhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree that cabd/ffery is not tvt

I really don't like the idea of limming through enchant/rh9 and forcing a lady to go unpaired (esp. Fire???) - my confidence level that we'll hit even one scum in these is not high and feels like we'd just be chaining a lot of 'town but hard to read' people here

I feel VERY confident that we find 1 scum in Enchant/Rh9/FireRed. But if you want to swap to another of the ??? Ladies who aren't paired I'll do anywhich one you want, because I'm more confident in Enchant/Rh9 than I am about any of the ladies tbh? I do think FireRed is my most suspicious of the ones I listed, though.

I guess i'm really just not that confident we'll find scum in enchant/rh9
Like is it impossible? No
But also like do i have high enuf confidence that i want to make a gameplan on this? Also no

(I will say that the first thought that popped into my head upon reading this is that you might be scum functionally chaining mislims on easy / non-controversial targets ....)

right but with zero flips how are you going to go "you're scum chaining mislims"

mislim chaining is something you can only see once you get, you know, flips. The "chaining" part is done by going "and if this is town, then by logic THIS one is scum instead!" it's chain logic

i'm not chaining anything, I'm advocating for scorched earth on 4-5 slots in the game and then evaluating where we stand from there. I don't get what you're trying to say here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like you're both hedging on enchant and rh9 like "oh they COULD flip scum but i'm not sure" and then accusing me of possibly being scum chaining miselims.

when in reality the way to setup for what you're describing is to slot a bunch of slots into the "could flip scum but i'm not sold on it yet" slot, go after your "TOP SCUM READS" and then weed your way down to sorting the people who "might be scum if i'm wrong here" "oh no i was wrong here, it has to be this slot i thought was scummy the whole time i just got it wrong"

like, it's weird that you're doing what you're accusing me of doing, in a way.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't like your pick of people to flip, it goes counter ro my view of the game and i'm not confident we should just 'kill people and let'a see where we are' or that this is a game plan that will lead to success

Pedit interesting thought, elaborate?

How would you like us to proceed? A no elimination?

which take on my worldview is scummier, do you think

firered for ignoring my whole solving process only to come in and accuse me of bussing with no real backup to the claim or flips

or skitter for chainsaw defending rh9/enchant while accusing me of chaining eliminations when again there's no flips and no chaining going on

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I thought about saccing a lady not named Ydrasse for the extra gent flip but I don’t think fire/cakes flips scum between them. So 2 town for 1 possible scum doesn’t seem great.

two town for 1 scum wins the game in 13-4

let's say scum kills 2 townies with their only nk, right? 11-4

9-3

7-2

5-1

3-0

comfortably wins, lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't really follow how i'm doing thr same thing as you, at all

You're also stating a much higher confidence on scum in enchant/rh9 than i am (which is why i don't especially think we should be limming through them)

I'm finishing up my workday but happy to discuss more in a few hours

I'm saying you're using words that don't describe my play, and if anything those words are more indicative of how you are playing (though not really accurate either)

I respect that you don't have as high scumreads on those slots, so let me ask you point blank, beyond Ffery/Cabd, who ARE you scumreading at this point Skitter?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't like your pick of people to flip, it goes counter ro my view of the game and i'm not confident we should just 'kill people and let'a see where we are' or that this is a game plan that will lead to success

Pedit interesting thought, elaborate?

How would you like us to proceed? A no elimination?

No but 'there's probably scum in one of rh9/enchant and some unpaired lady so let's just do all of them' isnt the way we should go either

it literally is, lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't like your pick of people to flip, it goes counter ro my view of the game and i'm not confident we should just 'kill people and let'a see where we are' or that this is a game plan that will lead to success

Pedit interesting thought, elaborate?

i don't think she as scum would gain that much for insisting that there's scum in there and we have to lim them. especially when people bop her so often, she's just kind of burning cred for not much reason

if she were trying to save a scum lavar/rce, again i don't think that's a super likely track because her saying this is pretty unlikely to do that much to influence the people who actually have a choice in who lives and dies (me, cakez, ydra)

So you think as scum here i'm more likely to bus people than not in this situation.

Except if I have a known shelf life already, if I'm scum here wouldn't it be more prudent to just remove as many townies as possible before I have to shuffle off this mortal coil?

your logic doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but if it means you want to help me kill these slots, CHOO CHOOO

ALL ABOARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't really follow how i'm doing thr same thing as you, at all

You're also stating a much higher confidence on scum in enchant/rh9 than i am (which is why i don't especially think we should be limming through them)

I'm finishing up my workday but happy to discuss more in a few hours

I'm saying you're using words that don't describe my play, and if anything those words are more indicative of how you are playing (though not really accurate either)

I respect that you don't have as high scumreads on those slots, so let me ask you point blank, beyond Ffery/Cabd, who ARE you scumreading at this point Skitter?

Firebringer
Rce
Spiffeh
Maybe gypyx
Maybe lavar

Like id you wanted to go thru rce/lavar probably woulent object as much

Firebringer is going to be handled, he and I are leaving mid second dance so I can have solving ability.

Sell me on RCE and Spiffeh, please

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I liked you more when you didn't post

aww, muffin.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thankfully real amount of power LLD has now is zero.

also, this isn't town, folks

[Lady Lambdadelta]

this is a blatant attempt to bait me into a fight, which i'm choosing to ignore because i have better things to do than indulge enchant

it's also, not town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't really follow how i'm doing thr same thing as you, at all

You're also stating a much higher confidence on scum in enchant/rh9 than i am (which is why i don't especially think we should be limming through them)

I'm finishing up my workday but happy to discuss more in a few hours

I'm saying you're using words that don't describe my play, and if anything those words are more indicative of how you are playing (though not really accurate either)

I respect that you don't have as high scumreads on those slots, so let me ask you point blank, beyond Ffery/Cabd, who ARE you scumreading at this point Skitter?

Firebringer
Rce
Spiffeh
Maybe gypyx
Maybe lavar

Like id you wanted to go thru rce/lavar probably woulent object as much

Firebringer is going to be handled, he and I are leaving mid second dance so I can have solving ability.

Sell me on RCE and Spiffeh, please

I will in a few hours, gotta bounce for a bit now

aight bet

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m fine giving you two maximum time to try to solve the game without actually sparing either of you.

... oh.

oh no.

So you're scared to give us 2-3 days to solve?

I'm scared Cabd is town and a potential power town team leaves the dance first, but but the leaving early was pretty much always going to happen. I had no interest in pairing with anyone else.

You don't know what I realized here, and if you're asking me this question, you're the town one in this problem.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not saying any more than that, Ffery.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m fine giving you two maximum time to try to solve the game without actually sparing either of you.

... oh.

oh no.

So you're scared to give us 2-3 days to solve?

I'm scared Cabd is town and a potential power town team leaves the dance first, but but the leaving early was pretty much always going to happen. I had no interest in pairing with anyone else.

You don't know what I realized here, and if you're asking me this question, you're the town one in this problem.

And you've given me the best reason in the game thread to townread Cabd. Better than anything he's posted.

i'm so confused by you

you two aren't t/t here and the fact you're going "the best reason i have to TR cabd is you being weird" should TELL YOU THIS FOR A FACT IF YOU ARE TOWN FFERY

I have ZERO interest in killing either of you before you get a chance to speak.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The problem is that's not really in my control, now is it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"Oh No I've Said Too Much" - REM

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi I needed to get high immediately after work because it was just that kind of day

LLD I’m loving your energy keep it up (even though we disagree about a lot)

Then chat with me friendo, tell me where we disagree and see if you can't convince me otherwise or if I can bring you around to my side.

I need people to help me enact my plan either way or it just won't happen sooooooooooooooooo, let's fuckin' chat b'y

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I literally just thought “aww I wish Pooky was in this game”

And then realized he was the host

lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

look it's been a long few days, superbowl party hosting is exhausting, GreyICE took monday off to mourn his niners losing, and i'm finally back to form so i'm giving effort

it turns out that mafia is addicting? I'd planned to go do some speedruns by now and i'm still here analysing and musing over posts and possibilities and trying to solve because i'm not capable of turning away lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The problem is that's not really in my control, now is it.

It looked to me like you were naysaying skitter about giving us a couple days.

Nope. I have zero interest or need in rushing an elimination. If anything, I'm pushing to remove Enchant/Rh9 prior to you all, since you're paired.

No I had a realization about something that I think is going to happen and I'm trying to decide whether I should just speak it into existence or hope it hasn't been considered.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is there any reason to speak it into existence in the pairing phase?

the pairing phase would be the only time speaking it into existence would actually have positive effect.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh right, maybe scum haven't thought of it.

Yep.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I assure you it's not clear cut

[Lady Lambdadelta]

accept rh9

but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

accept rh9

but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Don't be juding other peoples partner tastes. U picked me after all, u need better standards urself

i'm trying to find a talonflame sitting on a growlithe's head rn

[Lady Lambdadelta]

please yeet enchant into the mists

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So we just said fuck my reads and killed none of the people I wanted huh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fucking duh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So cabd was the scum.

Yes duh.

Only reason I wasn't banging that gong more was to possibly buy ffery time

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Skitter thinking that Cabd thinks I can carry this when I had a whole argument with Firebringer about this shit is wild.

I'm good at scum, this is not scum this is townblocking mixed with clique forming, the game.

I have been right for a large portion of this game and no one has wanted to listen. FB has already made ot clear we are dying but if I can kill a scum here I get to shoot again, essentially.

Like, the first time I hit T/T with an elim I am getting nuked, so my goal is to make it to endgame alive by killing both scum.

Here are my thoughts.

There is no S/S pairing.
Cabd trusted his game to someone in the overall town PoE. At least one, maybe two.
The plan to have enchant and cabd suicide to deny info means that people who tried to protect Enchant from being left out of the dance by me are majorly suspect.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So what I am going to do is list names Cabd could concievably see as a carry (I know him better than anyone remaining here) and then look at who amongst the player list pushed to keep Enchant in the dance.

Because we lost a whole elimination because Firered didn't listen to me. If enchant was left out we would have had info AND an voted Elim. No shot scum goes down THREE scum with that suicide plan.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What is wild to me is people saying I need to die by endgame when that was already a known take and how that shit is pure paranoia because I LITERALLY ADVOCATED FOR A GAME WINNING PLAY FOR US OVER AND OVER AGAIN

And people used my lack of power to shove it in my face. Fuck Enchant literally did the cheeky scum thing of pointing out how little power I had I pointed at the post and no one gave a shit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You want to paranoia PoE me out of the game Fine. I've already committed to that being my life in this game, and I know why I can't be left for 3 pairs alive. If we went T/T pair elim twice I can't leave unless I think FB is scum (I don't.)

So we have to leave at #of scum +2 or we don't have a free elim

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd trusted his game to someone in the overall town PoE. At least one, maybe two.
The plan to have enchant and cabd suicide to deny info means that people who tried to protect Enchant from being left out of the dance by me are majorly suspect.

I did exactly this, yet Firebringer said that you and him think myself and Gypyx should be an endgame pair.

Can you explain?

Becausw I haven't checked who did this yet and I was going based on my current reads and vibes prior to deciding this was the way I wanted to approach it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok i gotta bounce
Lld i am very happy to discuss tomorrow night, won't be around till then

Pedit my list is you, hst and like maybe (?) bell or fire (maybe me from your pov)

I don't think he entrusts the game to anyone else
But the same thought process is encouraging!

Nah Cabd wouldn't trust the game to me or Fire given the outcome kf things.

He would trust STD, You, Gypyx, Spiffeh, Cakez, HST.

Those are the people he would trust.

Unless you are looking for a player who has experience to guide a super townie to the end. Then he could trust me. He could trust you. He could trust Fire. He could trust Bell.

But if you are looking for Cabd's wincon it's in that list above.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also FB can confirm that much of these thoughts about Cabd's mindset for this plan I discussed overnight so yeah we are on the same page Skitter we just don't come to the same conclusions which concerns me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

You are WILD if you think this hasn't been Cabd's plan since fucking page 10 when he was getting mostly townreads and Ffery was being crucified.

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game. This was a Con.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd trusted his game to someone in the overall town PoE. At least one, maybe two.
The plan to have enchant and cabd suicide to deny info means that people who tried to protect Enchant from being left out of the dance by me are majorly suspect.

I did exactly this, yet Firebringer said that you and him think myself and Gypyx should be an endgame pair.

Can you explain?

You seem eager though to tell me who did and didn't refute my Enchant should be left out assertions.

Wanna do the research for me and tell me what you find? Since you're eager.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yeah I get one shot to find a scum and I only reload if I get a headshot so I might be a little insufferable for a bit with thread presence and sounding like I run shit. Apologies in advance to everyone else.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game.

I think scum Cabd had to pair with fery. He most likely knew that otherwise I would pair with fery, and that would cast over a giant doomsday spell on his team.

I'm sorry but this is the best argument for you being scum anyone has posted.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cause if you think scum cabd is afraid of you and Ffery pairing as t/T I tho k you have lost your mind.

But if scum cabd was afraid you'd be forced to swallow the Poison Ffery pill instead and determined his longevity in this game (like mine) was lower than yours due to status and paranoia, then he might have swallowed the Ffery pill to protect you, yeah.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

You are WILD if you think this hasn't been Cabd's plan since fucking page 10 when he was getting mostly townreads and Ffery was being crucified.

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game. This was a Con.

i mean, wild is maybe a bit of an exagerration but i don't see how this necessarily indicates he was instaleaving? like, as some people said (and i'm mostly reffering to other people's arguments here) he was very much expected to pair up with ffery, and even if he could go on someone else, i might be misundersteanding, but why not take the best out of both worlds and badmouth ffery into being left alone (so that he may try to pair up with someone who would be more interesting to force to leave) / pairing with a scum who is fine dying and executing his double leaving maneuver with him

This is again because you don't know Cabd like I do. This is one of my best friends. The only player in this lobby who knows Cabd better is Ffery. When I Saw what he was gonna do I freaked. I was hopinh being quiet about it would buy Ffery time.

Like, hell HST saw it too.

This was calculated and intentional. This was a weaponized attack against town and Cabd "using his life for maximum value".

That is in fucking quotation marks because I can hear my boy fucking saying thos exact words.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think it's delirious for me to think that I would not let fery get buried to the ground. I'm lazy, awfully minimalist, and fluffy as ever, but I'd like to think that I can at least manage that much. And the longer town fery lives, things get worse for scum.

We agree on that. It's why he nuked her on fucking upkeep.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I won't argue with you about my competency Skitter because I've done more impossible shit before. It's possible I could convince FB I'm the towniest person in the game and we somehow end up in true endgame. It's not gonna happen because the plan is to trade my longevity for finally having some control to execute my play style and reads and execute someone today and hopefully then again tomorrow if I'm shooting to kill.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah Cabd said enough to save enchant. Isn't that fucking wild

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Right and i'm saying i'm probably willing to accept that tradeoff but will kick up a fuss if you miss and don't die, basically

Like i know you're competant enuf to do that, the pass is if you continue to find scum until the game is over, otherwise you're my number 1 suspect

@lld

Then we have an accord. Im not asking for a blind sheeping especially if I decide STD gotta go he stinky

But at least giving me the Bop rope to hang myself with if I'm gonna be BoPd is nice.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I wish people had given me the BoP more yesterday and not now but we live in the world we live in.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

to be lesss serious for a minute

i am thinking of what to eat today

chinese food (panda) or Pizza (pizza hut)

I need this dance to decide for me

You're specifically looking for like, fast food and not something more upscale? If so, go Panda Express. Cheap American Chinese is a guilty pleasure and its nice to have now and again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... Actually I need to go reread Tenet.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah i'm not gonna blind sheep
(And like if you go after my pairing first was the obvious exclusion)

If i feel like you're obviously wrong (like the conclusion is someone i very strongly townread) i'll also object

But i'm fine with *one* chance basically before i go all in on you

Pedit honestly i think your conclusion waa cabd/ffery
And rh9/enchant/fire all dying iirc

Which isnt awful

Yeah that was my conclusion and then when RH9 paired into Ydra I focused all my energy on getting Enchant left out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would refrain from making assumptions.
All I know is that Cabd had a game plan.
That somehow involved him killing himself and then enchant.
They thought that was a good idea.
They thought that was a good idea. …

Yeah I mean, I’m sure this was along the lines that skitter was thinking as well. Also I think enchant is a lol player but not a bad one so their exit was also calculated. Scum put themselves in a deficit for a reason and LLD being set up to work their way out of their death pairing was my immediate first gut reaction.

Fucking how.

I'M ALWAYS MARKED FOR DEATH. IF I'M SCUM WITH CABD, CABD AND I HAVE THE SAME LOOK ON OUR FACE OF "OH SO WE NEVER LIVE TO ENDGAME HUH?"

I can guarantee you that if there is any ONE player in this game Cabd is NOT setting up to do a final run at it, it's me. I understand I have the skill to evade shit but at this point the paranoia is becoming unreasonable. It's becoming a weapon that scum are latching onto with town.

The issue is there's so many of you it's impossible to tell who is who.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do u think LLD can convince me not to leave or something

thats at @cakez and RCE

nah this is just a scumsiding push to eliminate us because scum is worried i'll land on them and be right at this point.

They need me dead to win, not because I'll live to endgame but because I actually give a fuck now and I'm right and when I'm right on things I tend to have my solves come together.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, my argument is that you’re here to run the yards so that your team can get a touch down at the end.

Uh. But that’s only if you’re scum.

Yeah, no, YOUR argument makes sense. It's WRONG but it at least holds some water. I get it. If I'm scum here I'm setting up for the finale. I'm pushing an elimination through that needs to happen for my buddy to win and then going sayonara on the spot.

I'm not scum, but I at least get THIS paranoia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do u think LLD can convince me not to leave or something

thats at @cakez and RCE

nah this is just a scumsiding push to eliminate us because scum is worried i'll land on them and be right at this point.

They need me dead to win, not because I'll live to endgame but because I actually give a fuck now and I'm right and when I'm right on things I tend to have my solves come together.

Counterpoint. Killing you + Fire over rh9/Ydrasse doesn’t exactly implicate either me or cakes so why would that be the play?

the fuck are you saying here? like i actually don't understand your point

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do u think LLD can convince me not to leave or something

thats at @cakez and RCE

nah this is just a scumsiding push to eliminate us because scum is worried i'll land on them and be right at this point.

They need me dead to win, not because I'll live to endgame but because I actually give a fuck now and I'm right and when I'm right on things I tend to have my solves come together.

Yeah but which is doing it, cause i lean on cakez

I think it's likely we have one person doing it who is in the worse position and will likely die before endgame (Cakez fits?) and one person OFF wagon not doing it but who will find themselves voting on me if needed (HST? STD? Skitter? Gypyx?) someone who is setting up for end.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

*I think scum are in the townread people*
*Suggests eliminating a pair with two widely townread people from predance*

What's the issue

How am I a widely townread person? I'm a "kill at this point so no sense reading them in pre-dance" person".

How do you not see the contradiction of "Cabd wants to let his ace in the hole live to win" and "LLD has agreed to die, and can't escape that"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ah, I see how this is.

If I'm right, it's because I'm scum who knows too much.

and if I'm wrong, it's because I'm scum misleading you.

I missed the part where I was scummy in either case. You've not presented anything I've done, you're literally just spewing conjecture that "oh well she COULD be scum who just knew it was cabd!"

OR I COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVING LIKE A TOWNIE AND NOW I'M BEING PUSHED OUT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The fact that I, as a player, pushed EXTENSIVELY and LOUDLY for Enchant to be LEFT OUT PRE-DANCE.

Would make CABD'S PLAN UNDOABLE. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TWO SCUM TO LEAVE TO END THE DANCE AND KILL YDRA.

I would have had to have been playing ANTI MY ALIGNMENT'S WINCON.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how the fuck are people gonna go "oh you were right about enchant and we should have left enchant out pre-dance we'd be in a much better spot, oh but you COULD BE SCUM so I'm gonna say we remove you on paranoia"

Fucking, bitch please. At least let me fucking play the god damned game. I'm literally the most townie I've ever been in this moment. I feel like I'm playing Mtn Dew Mafia with how locked in on the game I am. The only difference is in THAT game I was a fucking innocent child so people HAD to listen to me instead of discrediting me with "oh but she COULD just be mafia"

Fucking El. Oh. El.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I had an email etiquette training and I was told that all caps was bad because they might think you’re yelling at someone.

Might think? Oh no, who would get that impression, lol.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ah, I see how this is.

If I'm right, it's because I'm scum who knows too much.

and if I'm wrong, it's because I'm scum misleading you.

I missed the part where I was scummy in either case. You've not presented anything I've done, you're literally just spewing conjecture that "oh well she COULD be scum who just knew it was cabd!"

OR I COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVING LIKE A TOWNIE AND NOW I'M BEING PUSHED OUT

You could be town, I said that. But Cabd would have put a shadow over you regardless.

There is more argument that Cabd doing what he did makes me town than makes me scum and thinking otherwise is just strictly wrong. It's not that it's not possible for me to be scum here, it's that it's LESS LIKELY and people are treating it like it's MORE LIKELY.

Oh, and also, I'M TOWN.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Compared to this day phase, I would not say you extensively and loudly pushed for their death.

You didn’t even use all caps.

Yesterday I laid out tons of reasons, tried to play nice and reasonable because when people in this game get yelled at they tend to do the fucking opposite of what I want. (Dance games in particular, I mean).

Like people wanna dance with who they wanna dance. I was VERY extensive and popped in EVERY time there was an opening for me to pitch. Sorry if I didn't yell, it turns out I was trying to have fun with this game instead of blowing a blood vessel.

I'm currently in "blowing a blood vessel" mode rn. Cause now I just wanna win and be heard and listened to. I feel like I got this game on fucking lock if I can just have a few days to piece it together and do my research without people going "LUL LLD SO SCUMMY FOR BEING GOOD AT SCUM"

Like you'd think maybe I'd be able to ignore it but it drives me up a fucking wall and it makes it so hard for me to focus on anything but wanting to strangle those people.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, Bell, the reason you're not getting yelled at is because at least, in your paranoia of me, there is some kind of like, tempered understanding and situational awareness. You make SENSE. You're WRONG. And I hate that you constantly think the worst outcome of me because it feels like I'm being played to in a manner of "LLD always draws scum so just assume she does instead of actually trying to townread her" but I actually understand your logic and can confront it.

The rest of these people are just doing what you're doing only with worst justification and it's so transparently just wanting not to be the one to die themselves!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gonna be busy today, bad brains, i'll post tomorrow sorry folks

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm still not really in an okay trauma headspace rn so i'll get to this when i get to this

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i have 5 whole days rn to post what i'm thinking so

i assume deadlines reset upon one death so....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

During the dances
, normal nightless execution mechanics will take over. An execution will NOT reset the deadline

what is the normal nightless execution mechanic, just so i can judge how much safety brain time i can take for myself