Shell Game (Day 8)

[marcistar]

Loving this change to the thread lately. Yall are making it look lovely in here i love all the decorations

i also love dann tunneling me!! Soon it will reduce me to saying rude things and trolling are yall hyped?? I already had to hold back the troll within me (:

If I may request… stop using these spoiler tags. There are better tags and I can’t read these on mobile.

My bad how do i use the other ones again i forgot LOL

[marcistar]

Can we actually please its been so boring without a flip :/

[marcistar]

Bingle and danflor should get matching tshirts <3

[marcistar]

These past few pages really cement spiffeh town for me tbh

[marcistar]

God spiffeh is so obvtown lol

[marcistar]

My hood is so dead for awhile now

But if we're looking to end day soon should we not discuss wh9 gets the cops soon? Or is that gonna be a secret?

[marcistar]

I don't think we should make a plan for the cop shots and the dethy hood should distribute them as they fit.

Okay ill give mine to u then thanks <3

(This is a joke.. maybe)

[marcistar]

*lack of strong scumreads that you feel confident pushing

Is probably a better way to put that thought

~ skitter

Pedit can cop shots be used tonight?

I didnt ask, but i think next n8ght they can be used.

I think morph is getting 3 cuz i said if we want mechanics we need to wait until 2 shots can go off so we can get accurate info. But then said it isnt realistic.

[marcistar]

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

Why am I the subject of your ire?

What do you want to do today wrt your hood?

cuz i looked at your posts and yawned

in regards to my hood, i dont really care. prefer for it to get solved but im not confident enough to make the call myself. more just "voice my opinion and dont shove it down throats"
i think in regards to letting it sit for a day for ~mechanical reasons~ (which i saw some people, i can specifically remember dragons but im sure others have said) would it not make sense to let it sit for a few more after that?
1 night to give
another night to give and get a result
and another night to get a result to confirm upon what we learnt previously
does that not make the most mechanical sense if we want to go down that route?
but i dont think its realistic to let a 1/5 shot slip through our fingers for that long.

my personal reads on my hoodmates have not changed much.
sunflower - klick - dragons - actiondan slot
granted the hood has been dead ever since the "hi" fest this morning, save for jupiter head complaining about # of pages and then not following up in hood after that. (i think i prob responded after they dipped tho)

[marcistar]

unless you're talking about us being the sanity check target, not a target to receive inventions. Using us as a sanity check is a good choice, probably.

Sanity check target makes less sense mechanically in a large because we can genuinely flip more players. Copventions should be more aimed at getting reevaluated with like 10 flips on the table where it's not that ambiguous who is giving what kind of result.

Arent we basically reducing our worth to 0 if we invest people who we think will die eventually?

[marcistar]

I personally dont like ur list cuz i d9nt overly tr anyone u put under my pool but ill follow it if everyone else agrees

[marcistar]

Yeah theyre all th3 same

[marcistar]

if the scum team is something like bingle/sircakez/brianskies/experience/firebringer this game is so sad honestly

that would honestly be so op!! who would assume the team wuld be all lowhanging fruit? someone would paranoia themselves eventually

[marcistar]

if the scum team is something like bingle/sircakez/brianskies/experience/firebringer this game is so sad honestly

there's no way you believe this is the team

omg we already see the paranoia.....

the strat does work!!

[marcistar]

btw i think we decided to just make lists of 3-4 ourselves

experience already made theirs but i wanna see what dragons and others want too ! :<

[marcistar]

not too much so i dont really have a read there.

i dont know what its based on..

[marcistar]

i think its basically the same its like go girl give us nothing!

[marcistar]

okay dragons is kinda townie i think idk

[marcistar]

ull hate me for this...

[marcistar]

the hood.

i think dragons prodding experience for how their reading/isoing is going + actually starting the discussion in the hood about who we're gonna target + putting pooky in his list so that none of us actually target pookie

is all protown things

[marcistar]

marcistar try not to base her reads on the hood challenge (impossible)

[marcistar]

Sorry what are people asking me to do im tired af rn

[marcistar]

If brian actually decided to playthe game that would be great

[marcistar]

My hood is just waiting on klick (:

[marcistar]

Is it bad to copy paste the list from the hood so we can get it over with

[marcistar]

Thats the ossue

We waiting for klick so we can see if theyre fine with the leftovers or not

[marcistar]

We otherwise havw it planned

So ia it bad to copy and paste it here tho

[marcistar]

the hood.

i think dragons prodding experience for how their reading/isoing is going + actually starting the discussion in the hood about who we're gonna target + putting pooky in his list so that none of us actually target pookie

is all protown things

Did the std post offering to put pooky on his list come before or after pooky made 3260

@marci

(Or anyone in the dethy I guess)

I think after! Not sure cuz im dumb tho! : D < 3

[marcistar]

Actually upon pondering.

If it's a deAAAthy traitor, we ESPECIALLY don't want it in the main thread.

Make the traitor feel forced to signal it to their team.

Right?

Are we 100% the traitor will visit toen tho?

[marcistar]

The traitor is welcome to use their invention on Pooky.

I will post this in hood so yhr traitor 100% knows

[marcistar]

I honestly thought bingle wanted the lists shared :/

[marcistar]

Also someone sent us fruit last night.

You arent the only one who got

[marcistar]

OH SHIT IM SORRY I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY SINCE SOMEONE ELSE DID AS WELL

[marcistar]

Whats oddskeeper

[marcistar]

Yall why is this giving scums perk vibez LOL

[marcistar]

Morph my theory is scum have a thief that can needs to steal our fruit to empower a different role.

Im sorry am i missing something

[marcistar]

Guys whats happening im so confused

[marcistar]

Guys whats happening im so confused

Morph needs to sync and our hood is our for blood. What’s your hood ranking look like?

Last night they HELLA trolled me

But we all had a consensous sr in morph last night, wolfbae did hella effort and had hella spicy reads. Wolfbae and sunflower were sitting in a tree k i s s i n g

I tr wolfbae.

[marcistar]

Talk to me more about how this morph read developed?

Fuck im in the car rn i should be home soon maybe

[marcistar]

Nvm i might be getting made a dinner

[marcistar]

IM SO CONFUSED WHATS HAOPENING IS HE MAKING ME DINNER OR NOT

[marcistar]

Hi guys! I'm new but this game looked like fun so I thought I'd give it a shot. My experience mostly is playing Discord mafia and ToS, but I wanted to give a forum game a try. I got a summary from the neighborhood chat last night, but if there's anything you want me to read just tell me where to look in the logs.

I saw we got an evil out Day 1, does anyone know how many evils are likely to be left?

In a game of this size, there are likely 4 remaining evils. But that is not confirmed.

DO NOT TRUST THIS TROLL HE PULLED THIS SAME MOVE ON ME

[marcistar]

What. What did I do marci?

WHEN HE JOINED THIS GAME

HE TROLLED ME PRETENDING TO BE A NOOB

AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO IT WAS

EVEN WHEN HE HINTED TO ME WHO HE WAS

[marcistar]

What. What did I do marci?

WHEN HE JOINED THIS GAME

HE TROLLED ME PRETENDING TO BE A NOOB

AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO IT WAS

EVEN WHEN HE HINTED TO ME WHO HE WAS

I don't know what you're talking about

[marcistar]

Marci I want your explanation not sunflowers pls and thx

me and my friend were driving sorry

Spoiler: about morph

sunflower first mentioned morph pushing spiffeh away and not working with him in regards to spiffeh starting the brian push
i ask for links
they linked and explained
i called spiffehs 1257 SO TOWNIE
experience mentioned morph is very likely scum based off of brians flip
dragons says something like "do you think morph would be more aggressive if cakez was wrongly sring them"
i: "morph 100% would not let a wrong sr on them slide"
wolfbae posts alot of morphs posts and calls it scummy
wolfbae says they dont see any reason for morphs progression in one scum between klick/sunflower without a tr on experience/std but mentions how whoever is scum in the hood wants it pointed to morph.

im getting bored of looking at it again already, but basically everyone found it weird how all 5 of us agreed when we're assuming theres at least 1 scum there.

if u want me to talk mroe abt the hood i can but it was just mainly alot of wolfbae walls

[marcistar]

i dont think i was fully susing morph tho

but the points mentioned did lowkey look valid

[marcistar]

VOTE: wolfbae

oh yeah you were also srd in the hood by some!

i wont confirm nor deny if it was me who brought you up

[marcistar]

i kinda tr wolfbae tho they were trying so hard in hood

[marcistar]

VOTE: wolfbae

oh yeah you were also srd in the hood by some!

i wont confirm nor deny if it was me who brought you up

You don't actually have to tell them everything. I get better reactions without spilling everything into the main thread right away.

OOP

BUT I CANT KEEP SECRETS

[marcistar]

So if wolfbae genuinely needing answers or do they understand what is going on?

half and half maybe

[marcistar]

you also confessed in the hood that you think its best to elim within the hood today so follow your heart and vote whoever you sus the most <3

[marcistar]

i said in the hood i need new glasses and i stand by that!!!

[marcistar]

tbh was it actually you who was trying to vote cakez yesterday?

i wanted to explore luke / shello / whoever the third who was trying to revive the cakez wagon yesterday, but i cant remember who the last one is

[marcistar]

I said that I was in the hood

do you remember who the 3rd who was trying to revive cakez wagon was

[marcistar]

HELP ME IM SO CONFUSED

[marcistar]

WERE YOU TRYING TO REVIVE CAKEZ WAGON Y/N

[marcistar]

tbh was it actually you who was trying to vote cakez yesterday?

i wanted to explore luke / shello / whoever the third who was trying to revive the cakez wagon yesterday, but i cant remember who the last one is

Tbh I'm not even sure about cakez - I know I thought he was good last night but his chats today seem like they could be evil.

I FEEL SO DUMB RN

DID U FULLY READ OR NOT

I CANT TELL WHO THE 3RD IM THINKING ABT IS

[marcistar]

so do you think cakez is townie?

i kinda thought one of the 3 who were trying to revive his wagon was scum trying to save brian

[marcistar]

Also pooky had a really long message about cakez being evil and evils killed him during the night so maybe he was right?

HUH

[marcistar]

MAYBE BUT WHAT

[marcistar]

oh yeah i remember i also wanted to know how cakez behavior in his hood was last night! does anyone want to spill <3

[marcistar]

he was bad in hood ?

[marcistar]

Also someone sent us fruit last night.

Also someone sent us fruit last night.

You arent the only one who got

VLA until Monday

I was given fruit during the night, but ceph told me I was not allowed to eat it, smh

im confused how did 3 of us get fruit then?

[marcistar]

tbh the message that i got kinda makes me think it can be used by someone

[marcistar]

AM IN PAIN

but i dont think luke is 100% town idk i gotta think on that still

[marcistar]

whats the tea on firebringer?

[marcistar]

My overnight pool got so fucked up so fast
Ig now I'm looking at (Sunflower, experience, wolfbae, Firebringer, Gypyx)

bro you cant just expect us to believe that

you dont seem very motivated

[marcistar]

@spay- does the fruit seem to imply it can be used for something

the note says that to my knowledge it doesn't do anything. It secifically says that I can't do anything with it.

When I read the PM I thought that maybe something has to happen before I learn more about it or can use it in some way, but your idea about fruit thievery makes sense, too.

yeah but imo that implies someone else can

[marcistar]

i dont think i would vote wolfbae today

[marcistar]

MOVING FORWARD. If you get a fruit, shush.

you keep saying its a thief game, is that why you want us to shush?

[marcistar]

but hehe fruit

[marcistar]

yall where is the LOVE for my gal gypyx!!

[marcistar]

damn thats kinda townie then lowkey

like without knowing the claim

claiming unprompted and offering to be leashed is + town imo

[marcistar]

OHHH

SORRY IM DUMB

maybe not super + town

but is the claim towny claim or scummy claim in ur eyes

[marcistar]

can we stop talking abt this please if its not a scummy claim !!

i am so very tempted to ask what the claim is and stuff cuz im curious

[marcistar]

okie

[marcistar]

Mmmhm

I dont exactly think of wolfbae as superb townie rn

[marcistar]

Not on shello

[marcistar]

Its sort of weird tho i reminded him of his read on dunnstral and i dont think he outwardly responded to me but instead started pushing dunn in thread here ??

[marcistar]

What do you mean by reminded him of his read?

I asked him if he was gonna do anything abt it

[marcistar]

I dont want to vote for sunflower here guys! But maybe its just me being selfish

[marcistar]

For the people saying scums in the utr slots where that analysis at LOL

[marcistar]

For the people saying scums in the utr slots where that analysis at LOL

No serious attempt to save brian -> makes me think scum didn't have the influence to

Rlly? I thought your slot and luke made a pretty serious attempt

What do you think of luke?

[marcistar]

For the people saying scums in the utr slots where that analysis at LOL

No serious attempt to save brian -> makes me think scum didn't have the influence to

Rlly? I thought your slot and luke made a pretty serious attempt

What do you think of luke?

I know i'm town, i think luke is probably town, not sure how much he resisted it, but will have to reread

~ skitter

i'm not 100% on this but im pretty sure he was trying to get momentum on cakez. i think he pinged you guys specifically and asked for your help reviving the cakez wagon, and then there was a 3rd person in on it too.
i think luke is more sus today than he was yesterday because of this. imo it looks like he was trying to save brian.

4220 from dunnstral seems like a townie post imo, i don't think scum would let alarm bells ring so quickly to someone "knowing information they shouldnt".

4222 wolfbae keeps saying things like this and its starting to annoy me like bffr just hella push dun if you believe hes scum why back down if the feelings so strong? i dont think acting like this is a protown thing.

4254 is not the vibes, but it sort of aligns heavily with sunflower in the hood! annoyed with the game

I still sort of think my gal gypyx is giving us nothing at all!!

unsure of who the scum is in my hood, but i live laugh love the experience wagon idk might vote there later

i could also see myself maybe voting for luke maybe someone else if im feeling esp like a sheep. dont see myself voting firebringer tho (still dont see whats so wrong with them)

[marcistar]

tbh i might just be getting annoyed with everyone in the hood :/ but it really is making me think things

[marcistar]

originally i had the thought that it was highly unlikely it was svs wagons (i had this thought overnight)

but i no longer really think that (wolfbae pointed out i was just in a game that had svs d1 wagons)

but i dont overly have a read on cakez, but hes a hella easy push forever.

so is cakez a super powerful role in your opinion then?
what makes him so obvscum instead of just the "other wagon"?

we discussed this point a tiny bit in the hood, but ngl i was so confused about it and i still am seeing as wolfbaes read has since changed..? i think ? i dont remember what ive read anymore tbh

[marcistar]

yawn

[marcistar]

love to see the positive change of considering gypyx again after i mentioned her! keep it up thread! we can make this house a home if we try hard enough <3

[marcistar]

eh still not convinced experience is town tbh

i think they need to be giving more reads

[marcistar]

why just now?

[marcistar]

we'd be voting experience about now if we didn't want more out of this game day.

^ this is my thoughts

it seems waaay too early for an elim

[marcistar]

You're leaning scum on me enough to drop an entire wallpost on me. So if that's the case why vote experience?

Because I think that experience has at least as much likelihood to flip scum, and also has the potential to actually be an elim today.

You got a big post because, from my pov you are the most interesting, dynamically updating set of thoughts that I have had on the game recently. Not because I am declaring my intent to endlessly tunnel/push you until you die.

Ngl you kinda just seem like youre setting up to continue pushing in the dethy hood next phase

[marcistar]

1. WHY ARE YOU AWAKE

2. so youre lining up elims? im confused why arent you denying it?

[marcistar]

Maybe ur townie wtf

Not denying that highkey townie imo but wtf

[marcistar]

BRO STOP U GOT ME

[marcistar]

I WAS GONNA ASK HOW U KNEW THAT AND IF U KEPT EXTENSIVE NOTES BUT THEN I CLICKED THE LINK

[marcistar]

My favorite part is that if you copy and paste it, it does genuinely lead you to a post on page 166 where I said that I battle insomnia.

[Side note: I think that not sleeping in my own bed is making it worse the last couple nights ]

Funny thing is its too much work for me when im on mobile at work

BUT UR RIGHT ITS GENIUS

[marcistar]

2. I literally just have two scum reads in the hood. If those two did not happen to be in the same hood, would you even bat an eye at that post?

It was basically me being asked "HoW cOuLd YoU vOtE hIm If YoU cLaIm To ScUm ReAd Me??" And then answering is that it is possible to have more then one scum read simultaneously. That is not chaining elims, it just: True Facts With Luke.

Tbh peobably not.

I think this makes sense thanks! Im just on edge regarding my hood LOL

[marcistar]

VOTE: experience

[marcistar]

Do you want me to tell you who wolfbae is <3

[marcistar]

Wolfbae literally said in hood that it isnt really a secret

[marcistar]

I could vote gypyx as well

[marcistar]

EEH GUYS IS IT OKAY IF I SAY WHO WOLFBAE IS IM

[marcistar]

SECRET GO BRR

[marcistar]

Also this is kinda naive reasoning but I don’t think experience is scum here because I would think scum in dethy would be trying hard right now, since they have incentive to do so.

-HM

Eh i kinda think how the scum in the hood plays is all dependant on the player. I do think experience is pretty sussy though.

[marcistar]

I could vote gypyx as well

i would prefer this tbh

Do you wanna do it rn or let experience marinate in the pressure?

[marcistar]

EEH GUYS IS IT OKAY IF I SAY WHO WOLFBAE IS IM

if it helps explain your read on wolfbae, maybe.
but otherwise, i would say no.

PLEASE I CANT HOLD IT IN

WOLFBAE IS PETAPAN 100%

[marcistar]

I kinda just think this playerlist is full of a lot of headstrong and highly skilled town players that all want their own pocket scum reads to be correct and probably want the game to be harder than it actually is

like i think at this point the team *can* realistically just be sircakez/gypyx/experience + 1

It could be but realistically i think one of them wouldve stepped it up AT LEAST

I could vote gypyx as well

i would prefer this tbh

Do you wanna do it rn or let experience marinate in the pressure?

wagons on experience rn and i'm okay with that.

i can see both as scum.

Mood tbh

Who do you thinks with them?

[marcistar]

EEH GUYS IS IT OKAY IF I SAY WHO WOLFBAE IS IM

if it helps explain your read on wolfbae, maybe.
but otherwise, i would say no.

PLEASE I CANT HOLD IT IN

WOLFBAE IS PETAPAN 100%

Luke is this who you thought Wolf was? Does it change your read?

The true question is what do you think of his alignment now that you know that

[marcistar]

Didnt you say you needed to go to bed why are you still up

[marcistar]

Yall i did the exact same thing as experience tho

I targeted someone in my hood-

[marcistar]

Wait aoeey im not sure i kept switchinf targers

[marcistar]

Yeah i sent someone in my hood it

[marcistar]

Yeah i sent someone in my hood it

BRO LOOK IN THE HOOD

DID DRAGONS NOT SAY TARGETTING FELLOW HOODIES IS FINE?!?!

[marcistar]

I do have the invention yes, but i thought we were meant to keep items hush hush!

[marcistar]

Im not reading it all but on a glance shes giving alot more there

VOTE: gypyx

[marcistar]

Firebagel whats the overview of ur case on dragons

Too many words bore me

[marcistar]

[marcistar]

That is not what i wanted to see at all! <3

[marcistar]

I skim past ur posts haha so i kinda just want it easy in one spot and easy ro read

But i guess i can look later when im not busy

[marcistar]

Isn't that everyones role in the dethy

i have no clue.

aintnoway that's a real thought experience is having

Actually...

Didn't experience acknowledge a list of where each inventor should be targeting in the hood? How can they think their role is unrevealed still?

Originally, it was dragons who brought up how bingle wanted us to have lists, and i joined in echoing its a good idea. Experience then quoted what dragons said and said its a good idea and was the first one to come up with a list! followed by dragons, me then sunflower!

Hope this helps <3 Let me know if you need more xoxo

[marcistar]

I'd lean investigate over invent.

I DO WHAT I WANT!!

WHAT I BELIEVE IN

FUCK THEM KIDS

[marcistar]

ngl i think gypyx susing dunn on page 186 is so weird like ?? it seems so reactive instead of well thought out! an omgus if i've ever seen one LOL

[marcistar]

sometimes i think wolfbae is townie and sometimes i doubt that... it confuses me so much

[marcistar]

i hate yall

im now HELLA reading into experiences posts in the hood like idk

[marcistar]

Marcistar's posts on this page kinda weird me out

its because im on edge

[marcistar]

LOL

no i meant im so on edge because of rl things :/

[marcistar]

whats so wrong with that luke? i think experience mentioned in my hood that theyve read all of the hood and only some of main thread!

[marcistar]

why did u only realize when i gave the answer to the thread?

[marcistar]

IDK WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE

[marcistar]

I wanna admit rn i highly doubt im gonna be posting today <3

[marcistar]

Gypyx do you really think spiffeh!scum hard busses his partner yesterday? It feels like youre throwing shit out there just to lessen how many townreads there are.

I could see experience not knowing we're all cop inventors as legit but tbh i just kinda think hes scum ajyways.

Im curious where cakez and oblivion went off to, no presense and nobodies susing them! I would LOVE to vote there today as well

[marcistar]

What is ufc

[marcistar]

Funny how u popped in instantly lol were you reading up?

@gypyx do you think spiffeh really goes against the grain and brings up the brian case first if hes scum then? Usually i feel like scum short of eh shuffle along and join on after someone else puts in the legwork, is this a wrong thought?

[marcistar]

Oh my god hes mafia AND he beats people up for fun..

[marcistar]

Awh guys i feel bad experience apologized for suboptimal play in the hood

Is that townie to do tho? Unsure

[marcistar]

yeah i dont really see much progressing beyond this unfortunately.

Oblivions pop in is ??underwhelming?? Someone catch them up!!

Dunn and luke on this page is ? (I think wolfbae likes it but i dont quite like it)

I still prefer experience > sunflowers. But gypyx is my #1!!

[marcistar]

Spiffeh why must you steal my thunder i tho7ght i would be the only one posting at this hour smh

[marcistar]

Cakez is so townie wtf

[marcistar]

I dont think sunflowers scum, i think experience is the scum in da hood.

[marcistar]

Sunflower who do you even think is scum??

He doesnt give any shits and just echos whats popular rn. If hes scum wouldnt he care more about the obv bandeagoning >.>

[marcistar]

Sunflower who do you even think is scum??

He doesnt give any shits and just echos whats popular rn. If hes scum wouldnt he care more about the obv bandeagoning >.>

I mean I appreciate you calling me town but I don't think I've just been echoing other people lol

Whats ur spiciest read rn then

[marcistar]

Sunflower who do you even think is scum??

He doesnt give any shits and just echos whats popular rn. If hes scum wouldnt he care more about the obv bandeagoning >.>

I mean I appreciate you calling me town but I don't think I've just been echoing other people lol

Whats ur spiciest read rn then

For starters I do think experience is town now
For a little spicier I think Oblivion is a potential scum candidate and I also don't think Shello is cleared by the claim stuff from earlier either. But I'm not pursuing either of these today.

OOO THIS SPEAKS TO MY SOUL-

tell me more abt the oblivion read <3

[marcistar]

Cakez is so hella townie smh how do yall not see it how is he not locktown already!!

[marcistar]

Loving the energy gypyx! Keep it up!

UNVOTE:

[marcistar]

Hello everyone irl is making me big mad so instead SIR BAKEZ HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

Try to not scumslip this time mr bakez

[marcistar]

Loving the energy gypyx! Keep it up!

UNVOTE:

Thank you anime lady but also i really don't think this does much

My love and support doesnt do much for you?

Wow..

Ouch..

I guess i'll just go...

[marcistar]

Your dunnstral read is a bit flaky but I agree he needs more pressure. Its really hard to read him.

[marcistar]

Guys maybe cuz experience is scum smhhh

[marcistar]

Marci, who originally said they were going to target someone within the hood?

I think most of us had eachother on our lists.

But i said last night

"Yo i feel very stuck with who i had to go, unless if fellow hoodies are a good option"

And then dragons said fellow hoodies are a good option if you tr them

We didnt explicity say who we were going ever tbh.

[marcistar]

Ngl i had a brief thought after experience was getting hated on for targetting me that you were scummy for that but i lowkey forgot abt it

[marcistar]

Genuinely, did brian fight his elim? Its possible experience has just already given up \o/

[marcistar]

@Marci, why is sunflower town? Explicitly as possible, I can't divine it from your iso it seems.

A large part of it really is the hood. I enjoy their posts and esp post "nature of the neighbourhood" leak, they pointed out exactly where they've crumbed our role and I like it, seems natural.
Before peta, they were the one solving the most in the hood. It seems mean to tr based off activity but i really find their points as valid to think stuff.

I also think their paranoia on me is genuine, i think if anyone had paranoia on me it would be pretty genuine due to the playstyle change. Their constant worry abt me is what really does that though.

I also liked alot of redsirs posts. I dont have many links rn since im on phone but i think theyve been trying to solve to the best of their ability.

Ngl i have had doubts but theyre the most townie in the hood other than peta imo. I also have secret reason i dont want that slot limmed

[marcistar]

Tbh i was just gonna leave it there

But sunflowers also has a frustration for how buddy buddy this game is between the cabal and i read that frustrqtion as townie.

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Also they have a frustration with how this is turning into a mechanics focuses game!

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Hmmm. I kinda

wish I recorded it

because I do feel said frustration tends to be less than rand town, such as skitter/prism in the mini that shall not be named, various members of tenet purely as an example.

Hm.

Wait just noticed tjis

Its cuz im 70% sure that happened in the hood

Petapan and sunflower both had a complaining fest in the hood earlier this day phase!

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Your hood sounds WAY more entertaining than ours right now

Yeah not right now theyre just giving reads

But earlier petapan was calling people bad at the game and it was like "PLS THEYRE NOT BAD"

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Spiffehs totally just scared his traitor will be caught by mechanics

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Help how do i open a jar

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i like danns analysis on brian... except he doesnt really go pushing dunnstral so it seems a bit noncommital in that way. would've loved to see more there but its just reading as a MEH post.

whatever this best friends shit regarding gypyx is bs because iirc the og reasonings here is something OUTSIDE game thread? do my gal gypyx more justice!!

im 100% down to vote experience if we're ready to end day right now, but i sort of want to see if oblivion can catch up a bit more before day ends.

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dunnstral personally if you had a 1x cop shot of unknown sanity, who would you aim it at?

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is that your personal opinion or what you thinks best for the rest of the town?

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dunnstral personally if you had a 1x cop shot of unknown sanity, who would you aim it at?

(I am not dunn)

But I would aim it at either csf or one of the masons, in order to start the calibration process. Which is not a fun answer, but its what I would do.

ignoring "calibration" who do you choose

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Maybe not Oblivion.

Whyd you say oblivion then remove them? do you have a tr there?

i'm slightly conflicted on oblivion rn.

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guys please i just want to see dunnstrals readsssss

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"It", not "they".

OOP SORRY

in neighbourhood, sunflower mentioned some "loose" meta on it that points towards oblivion town, but if sunflower is scum im unsure what that means for oblivion :/

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It has a completed game as both alignments as of a few days ago.

i am NOT reading that i have poor old valorant to attend to

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"loosely specced"

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dunn do you think luke is town?

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do you think morph is as well?

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Oblivion has two games. Not enough to use tbh given the presence in the scum game and fadeaway in the town game.

In townread it in the scum game tbh.

So you dont think it means anything for its alignment here? Do you lean anyway based on the posts it made so far?

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I don't think Lukewarm points out that I have historically read them wrong if I am currently reading them wrong. It is something to keep in mind for the future for sure though.

And yes I think Morph is town (pre-claim and post-claim)

i was gonna say that this gives me the ick but looking at the playerlist im no longer sure :/

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I don't think Lukewarm points out that I have historically read them wrong if I am currently reading them wrong. It is something to keep in mind for the future for sure though.

And yes I think Morph is town (pre-claim and post-claim)

i was gonna say that this gives me the ick but looking at the playerlist im no longer sure :/

???

i was gonna say "bad cuz easy poe" but then i realized most of the playerlist is lhf at this point :/

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i feel like in my brain it just already considers dunnstral as scum so nothing he does seems esp townie so then i find fault in everything

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at this point im not sure tbh i think its just cuz nothing feels right :/ and that hes super meh

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yes

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yeah if experience is mafia then this cop shot could be literally anything

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I think im back to susing my gal gypyx. Partly for being one of the 2 insta votes on sunflower, other part for todays posting.

I forget.
Were the cop shots used?

my items were stolen

@std/wolf/marci/sunflower
Do you think there's scum in your hood, and if so, who?

I think there is, but im unsure on who it is. i think theres points against all of them, but if i had to say i think theres the most against wolfbae but idk even.. i like his solving in the hood.

Im also ?? on firebringer for thinking theres no masons.

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woah so am i the person you thought was aggressively and blatantly wolfsiding?

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I want to hear more from oblivion today

I do as well, I think they've faded off far too much.

i think it is possible, that's it's a ruse to get us to kill all the dethy members

i want to throw that out there and see if there's any taste for it

reason being is that i can't figure out who's the scum but my reads have been atrocious all game so what do i know

gth i would do marci tbh but im not very confident in that

marci's day 1 posting seemed like she was uninformed about Brian's alignment. It has this meandering quality about it that makes me think she was considering his alignment instead of setting out with a specific read

wolfbae's defeated attitude is weirding me out a bit, but I really liked his D2 posts and still want Sunflower flipped

Spoiler: marci

Ok so there is little room for scum to hide.

but also it looks like brian skies is pretty afk. its possible for an easy push that way so im a bit wary.

more than brian skies, i am concerned about dunnstral, esp if actiondan winds up being the scum in the hood. dunnstral is easily more active and i can see some reasons here, though i understand the associations im building makes me biased.

mmm thats true. but im just saying i dont agree with some brian skies srs until i see more activity from there. hes null for me rn.i dont get how anyone could get any more unless if im reading too far into it?

I actually like spiffehs read on brian skies. I think its very cash money and makes me think more about brian skies alignment. I think brian skies does leave alot to desire, despite the fact i like his post.

The interaction with me began around 990, with the morph interaction beginning around 1026. I also like the read retraction on marci in the sequence of posts beginning in 1059 also felt town to me.

Oblivion's Dethy speculation is similar to where I'm at in that I feel as though it's probably best to table the Dethy hood for a day unless we feel really good about an elimination there.

I do like how Oblivion segued from the Dethy spec into discussing reads. I feel as though scum love to discuss setup spec, and Oblivion didn't just let the conversation linger there. They took initiative and moved the topic elsewhere. I agree the retraction on Marci feels town as I feel scum are less likely to just change their reads like that.

This just feels town??

Like why mention scum love setup spec of all reasons to tr someone? It feels like brians thinking of the game as a whole instead of looking for easy to make reads.

The interaction with me began around 990, with the morph interaction beginning around 1026. I also like the read retraction on marci in the sequence of posts beginning in 1059 also felt town to me.

Oblivion's Dethy speculation is similar to where I'm at in that

I feel as though it's probably best to table the Dethy hood for a day unless we feel really good about an elimination there.

VOTE: STD

?

What makes you feel "really good" about dragons then?

I dont track between these posts.. am i just slow?

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

Why am I the subject of your ire?

What do you want to do today wrt your hood?

cuz i looked at your posts and yawned

Let’s start one

VOTE: Brian Skies

am i wrong to tr this? it feels so natural.

VOTE: brian skies

The selection of marcis posts you quoted look like she was trying to throw a bone to Brian several (but not 7) times before giving up because he couldn't be saved

Like "I agree Brian is scummy, but dunn is scummier"

And "I kinda townread this, does anyone else?"

And "hey Brian what are your thoughts about x?"

I was 100% trying to throw a bone towards brian, i agree.
I was not 100% sure if he was gonna flip scum, there were things that made me think maybe he couldve been town, esp the speed of his wagon and how his counter wagons so easily voted on him. I wanted to see if reaching out to brian specifically could help get him into the game in case he was town. I was 100% giving him space to breathe right there, but is it so wrong to be unsure of peoples alignments? (:

i think marci is comfortable playing that way as scum and I think people are vastly underestimating marci's capabilities as scum

I am comfortable doing alot of shit as scum, tho when i am caught i will fucking spam thread to the death and you didnt see me give up and do that the very first time you tunneled me.

I spent all night phase being wary of the members of my neighbourhood. Dragon just isnt putting as much solving power into things like the rest of us are. Peta and sunflower are all buddy buddying up in there and stuff. I mention how i find something peta does as weird and sunflower instantly talks that down.
"oh wanting to leverage your personal relationships is something normal that town do"

I think i tr you though dann (: though i will admit it is fucking hard solving this hood.

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igot my new shoes and theyre kinda lowkey cute but the issue is theyre heels and i dont really wear heels so like

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Where’s that list of inventions and results?

I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'VE SAID HERE IN THREAD AND I DONT WANT TO ACCIDENTALLY SPILL WHO EXTRA HAS THE SHOTS

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i know where the other one is at, it was claimed in the hood who has it but i dont really wanna say who has it esp if they havent used it yet

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wait why

Town invention receivers are not supposed to know that their invention can be stolen. I’m town and I give fruit that explicitly let someone know if their fruits get stolen. This implies that thief role is scum. So either Marci faked their stuff being stolen on purpose for some whatever reason while knowing all this, or Marci is just town.

-HM

I doubt she is lying as well. But what if scum stole the invention from their own teammate? I'm not saying that

is

what happened, only that it's possible. There are enough competent players here that I would not rule out someone coming up with a plan like that. I'm wary of these mechanical claims ever since I got burned a few years back by scum using a vote steal ability on their own teammate.

this is townie.

I think i tr you though dann

why do you tr me marci

i think paranoia on me is reasonable to come from town, (specifically sring me -> walking back on it -> walking back into it) i dont think scum would constantly be reevaluating like this.

Spitballing here

if marci is the scum who did the kill/something else she might know there's a thief in play and use it as cover for why she didn't use the cop shot or why no one got an invention from her N2

i invented last night.
you might be confused, but all i did was ask whether i should use the cop shot or not, and never mentioned whether i was going to do so or not.

I have some free time before my next meeting

Also they have a frustration with how this is turning into a mechanics focuses game!

I agree with this

This is a confusing take to me, because I feel like this game has been decidedly not been mechanics focused.

Thread locked before I got a chance to address this:

I see a lot of people lining up eliminations based on the neighborhoods and mechanics currently at play. I understand the desire to focus on the dethy to find the scum there, but in the event Sunflower does flip Town (I don't think they will), I personally would be at a loss for who the scum in the hood would be and would MUCH rather eliminate within my stronger scumspects (Firebringer, Dannflor, etc.) that I feel more confident about. I think it's ridiculous to stay the course and eviscerate the hood when it could just lead to scum guessing the elimination with the Bookie and give them more killing power. And the utility of a masonry is pretty much loss if there's basically no Town players left when we hit the scum in there.

It just so happens that my strongest scum read is in the hood which is why I've been pushing there. If Sunflower flips Town, I will likely set my sights elsewhere unless any of the remaining dethy members scum claim in the process or something.

peta was susing this in the hood, but i like it.

dont know what to think of firebringer attacking the masons.

i do think oblivion should be limmed (soonish) if it doesnt get reads soon. > they posted while i was typing this but its just questions. so im not really convinced

Additionally, from Marci, can you explain to it what your view of the deathy is in terms of your reads on the other slots?

youre asking of my reads of the others in my hood?
wolfbae has the most reason to be tr, hes been posting his solves constantly in the hood and he had a paranoia that (idk who he thought,..? maybe he thought scum would) kill him.
sunflower is ?. i think sunflower and wolfbae have been blatantly buddying in the hood, and it reads as pockety though im unsure of on which end its from.
dragons is also ?. i dont see too much solving in the hood, most of what hes doing at this point is in main thread.

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i will be dipping out soon though, going out to eat with friends <3

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My stock on luke is going down

Can you talk more about this?

luke is not on the table rn sorry

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lol why dont u want luke onm the table then im curious

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Why

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in my heart im okay with gypyx or oblivion

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in my heart im okay with gypyx or oblivion

So you don’t want to eliminate in the dethy hood today?

Remind me why you’re townreading Sunflower, or point me to a post where you’ve explained it already

If you would not put words in my mouth that would be amazing honey xoxo

i've already explained at multiple points that im not sure who the scum in my hood is. i have reasons to sus them all. i am not confident calling the shots hereat all.

i am not looking thru my iso to find the post from last phase where i tr sunflowers. you can go find that yourself.

have fun xoxo

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question me more petapan! trust me im in a bad mood now so ull have lots of fun!

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My stock on luke is going down

Can you talk more about this?

luke is not on the table rn sorry

Marci, why did you say this/

zipper

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I would hope that if Sunflower is town we all decide morph and spiffeh are washed and let someone else get a turn to drive

I thought you thought spiffeh was scum

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I think both the attacks on luke and lukes defense do nothing for me imo. So boring!

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Scum can steal cop shots in addition to fruit? Can marci confirm if she lost both or just her fruit

Both

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The answer is one

You get one Day of basking in obvTown bliss after pushing through a scum wagon before everyone starts to turn on you

What

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I’ve been incredibly low wim this game and haven’t been able to shift that. Is anyone willing to give me a full mech breakdown behind a spoiler for free town points?

Lukes actually already done so in this post!

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