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Ninja will Destroy best Trackerbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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How would I resolve cross roleblocking and also self-targeting roleblocking?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I like hider. Even if you have to end up adding the weak part of it.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Is it standard to not inform BPs of the use of their vest/kill attempt upon them?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 211, mastin2 wrote:
Yes. More or less:In post 200, Ether wrote:I've never heard of limited-shot bulletproofs being notified. There's debate?
An x-shot vig is informed how many shots they have left.
An x-shot commuter is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot hider is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot doctor is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot cop is informed of how many shots they have left.
And so on and so forth, so the argument goes why wouldn't an x-shot bulletproof be informed of how many shots they have left when literally every other X-shot role does.
those are all active powers though. assuming you dont actively use your xshot vest they dont compare. The information is of a different caliber.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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??? Why?
We have all these weird variants of tracker/watcher and cop.
Presumably adding the potential for a godfather is specifially a anti-cop strategy.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Thats not what they said.
Like daytalk, the preence of framers/godfather/etal would have to be announced before hand.
So it would be known they were present but not what any other roles were or if they were the even a whole role.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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There are so many weakened variation of both watcher/tracker and cop that this is kind of asking modders to stop using cop.
Others have said that cop is generally an OP/unnesscessary role and I agree, but killing its hard counter to make it stronger is counterintuitive.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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too much work for normals?
part of being normal is simplicity and knowing exactly what is and isnt normal. splitting cop alignments messes with thatbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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thats better served as a gunsmith or other nonalignment cop. Or if the scum can use active powers to alter the result. As nonnormalbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Gunsmiths or vanilla cops or others that recieve non-alignment results.
Or for cops in games wherein scum can use active powers to alter the results. 'framers' or 'painters'beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 293, Ether wrote:Right. What about them?
no wai
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If youre going to give results to an invesitgator through a cipher or other code then it shouldnt be a cop unless the scum can fiddle with the results through active powers.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Im expressing my opinion on the matterbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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They mentioned that they wanted people to play differently if a godfather was present, but instead too often dont and they lose because of a godfather.
Thats never happened in games Im in, but I would imagine that besides being less popular the miller isnt 'an autoloss' situation. Millers should claim at onset, so most millers dont get a chance to suprise guilty. And even then the mislynch isnt quite the same as failing to lynch and otherwise scummy player.
As stated above, Ive always seen a lot of people speccing about a godfather, even if one doesnt exist, so Im not sure where they are seeing godfather skating by.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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