Open 857 | Frienemies | Postgame

[VP Baltar]

imo vp is just upset that he's in the "These are some people in the game. That they are!! I wonder why they're the same tier though.." tier

I'm in good company. And ari isn't with datisi tier

[fireisredsir]

is andante really your strongest scumread?

[catboi]

Vote Count 1.03

VP Baltar (2):

implosion, Aristeia

Vulture (2):

Gamma Emerald, Datisi

fireisredsir (1):

PenguinPower

Andante (1):

VP Baltar

Datisi (1):

GeorgeBailey

Aristeia (1):

Andante
Gamma Emerald (1): fireisredsir

Not Voting (4):

hutmeil, Malakittens, Something_Smart, Vulture

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is July 8 at 5:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-07-08 17:00:00)

Notes:

Datisi is V/LA until 6/27.
GeorgeBailey is V/LA until 6/27.

[VP Baltar]

is andante really your strongest scumread?

It's where my vote is.

Why are you town reading her again?

[VP Baltar]

Like, you're voting Gamma, who is at least trying. Andante over here misrepping and incapable of having an accurate conversation, and you think that's town her?

[Gamma Emerald]

the general lack of wagons and voting in this game is kinda weird actually, maybe thats contributing to the blandness

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

This was why I voted Vulture after catching up

[fireisredsir]

is andante really your strongest scumread?

It's where my vote is.

Why are you town reading her again?

362

and yes i don't really think her finding specific things in posts that she focuses on, resulting sometimes in not really accurate perceptions of them, is scummy for her

[implosion]

yeah vp having that response to that tier list is honestly among the most wild things i've seen in mafia games.

[hutmeil]

Also what's with the Aris-Datisi "flirting", any history there?

yes

you could say we do that a lot :>

Lol ok!

VOTE: hutmeil
they seem a little off, like their “focus” upon entering doesn’t seem to be to actually sort anyone, and just asked a few questions where like you could give any answer and they probably wouldn’t even follow up? idk, they just don’t feel like town to me, and they’re probably my strong “lead” for where to go to find maf, could just be I SR their stuff cause there’s not a lot, but I genuinely don’t like what we have so far from hut

what I like to call "busy work"

and hut did that but worse? hut's stuff was like strictly not really game related lol, like why do you care if I TR or SR Vulture? they don't have lots of posts, so obviously my read there isn't mega strong, like, you want clarification on my VULTURE read? yet I can tr and sr datisi in the same paragraph... and no questions?

Well, my first few posts were because I got mod prodded lol. Didn't realize game has started. Weekend is family time so ....

Anyway, my questions though quite short are genuine clarifications to what the other slots said. Vulture already responded (thanks!). You didn't directly respond to me, but your recent reads posts indirectly answered my question. And that Datisi-Aris thing hmmm ok

i agree hut is being explicitly not townie right now,

Is there some hut meta I should know here? What's not town there other than just general not playing the game yet.

Same Q to andante.

^ This. So I'm not town because I don't post that much? I understand though, I don't like lurkers too! Speaking of, Malakittens hasn't posted yet has she?

So (speaking anecdotally because I can’t reference back to it anymore) on Epicmafia this setup was played with few numbers, basically. I wanna say it was like 2/3/2. Masons sometimes outed themselves day one. This lessened the pool that people needed to hunt within, and kind of... guided the kills in a way, in that uh... you’re not analyzing the kills for “was this mason hunting or not” so much as like...

Kills were then made and analyzed as “the clear died expected” or, rarely, “why didn’t the clear die here?” Almost always the masons died but sometimes they didn’t and it was a ? moment.

I immediately thought of it when I saw this game and wanted to throw it out there as a way of tackling the game, or alternatively having only one mason out themselves and be the go-between for themselves and the others, etc.

What happened then? Did Town/Mason win when they outed early?

Town won more often than not. The caveat is that the pool is smaller than it would be here, but having town focus in on people who it could reasonably be instead of tunneling masons for a bit was beneficial.

I see. That's an interesting strategy. But if Masons claim early, they'd surely be NKd multiple nights in a row? Isn't that bad for Town?

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After going through 21 pages, I see that most of you know each other from previous games. And so far most of the discussions are meta this and meta that. Unfortunately, I don't have that same advantage since it's just my 2nd game on this site.

I find Andante scummy just for the fact that he keeps changing his votes. If I counted correctly, you've already voted 8 times! But then again he seems playful so cannot really read into anything there.

As for Vulture, suggesting to out PR roles this early seems scummy too. But it's a strategy nonetheless. Not sure if that benefits Town/Scum more.

The others I don't really have much read yet.

[Datisi]

implo's 476 is kind of more in line with what i had in mind about his "usual posting style". which is probably... saying nothing about his alignment, still >_>

how about i VOTE: vulture

was not expecting this.

why not? i didn't wanna keep voting you when i started getting a feeling you might be town

can we talk about the fact that in 488, vp baltar's avatar is the only one that is ever so slightly stretched out to the sides? like, why? every other avatar has normal proportions.

[Datisi]

I'm having a hard time getting into this game (they said, as if they ever really got into them these days) because there's a knot of meta/familiarity that's like wriggling around in the center of it. I think it's unfair to say there's scum in there somewhere (Ari/VP/Datisi) but it's difficult for me to see past it right now. One of those "Feels Like It" things.

Does anyone have any questions for me/want my takes on something.. I'm in a post-y mood.

why do you think there'd be scum within the three of us?

also: your three strongest reads in either direction?

[Datisi]

I find Andante scummy just for the fact that he keeps changing his votes. If I counted correctly, you've already voted 8 times! But then again he seems playful so cannot really read into anything there.

As for Vulture, suggesting to out PR roles this early seems scummy too. But it's a strategy nonetheless. Not sure if that benefits Town/Scum more.

"andante is scummy for changing votes but maybe not"

"vulture is scummy for suggesting the strategy but maybe not"

>_>

VOTE: hutmeil

(also andante is a she)

[Datisi]

i'm gonna go pretend i'm studying for a bit

throughout the irl today, i'll try to read through baltar's thoughts on andante and see what i think. i've been kind of ignoring that case because "andante misreading and misrepping people" just seems like... andante to me, but i should probably do my due diligence.

[VP Baltar]

is andante really your strongest scumread?

It's where my vote is.

Why are you town reading her again?

362

and yes i don't really think her finding specific things in posts that she focuses on, resulting sometimes in not really accurate perceptions of them, is scummy for her

There is a subtle difference to it for me. It's not really surprising for andante to get things wrong. It's WHAT she is getting wrong and the way she is trying to push those things that comes across as having an agenda to me.

I could probably not be lazy and write this up as a case, but I also think this is pretty obvious with even a quick glance at her iso.

[VP Baltar]

yeah vp having that response to that tier list is honestly among the most wild things i've seen in mafia games.

Glad to be No.1!

I find the tiers list to be tryharding LAMIST more than actual scumhunting or providing insight into her thought process.

[VP Baltar]

I find Andante scummy just for the fact that he keeps changing his votes. If I counted correctly, you've already voted 8 times! But then again he seems playful so cannot really read into anything there.

As for Vulture, suggesting to out PR roles this early seems scummy too. But it's a strategy nonetheless. Not sure if that benefits Town/Scum more.

"andante is scummy for changing votes but maybe not"

"vulture is scummy for suggesting the strategy but maybe not"

>_>

VOTE: hutmeil

(also andante is a she)

Gotta agree with Datisi here, hutmeil. I'd like to see some takes other than "andante votes a lot" ... which is pretty normal for her.

On Datisi/Ari flirting, that's their shtick. I'd just ignore it since it won't tell you their alignment.

When you were catching up, what did you think about fire?

Also, what's your general mafia experience level since this is only your second game here?

[VP Baltar]

can we talk about the fact that in 488, vp baltar's avatar is the only one that is ever so slightly stretched out to the sides? like, why? every other avatar has normal proportions.

Psychological warfare here.

[VP Baltar]

Not Voting (4): hutmeil, Malakittens, Something_Smart, Vulture

Yikesville, USA.

[VP Baltar]

Implo, what are your thoughts on Penguin so far?

[Andante]

yeah vp having that response to that tier list is honestly among the most wild things i've seen in mafia games.

Glad to be No.1!

I find the tiers list to be tryharding LAMIST more than actual scumhunting or providing insight into her thought process.

I mean, anytime I say anything about my reads I’m yelled at for “misrepping people” so I figured when not sit down, figure out what my reads even are, and then since everyone hates what I say, bam! picture form!!! yes a few things in the tierlist are different from what i’ve said in thread, but like 90% i literally explained already… Datisi is the only one who I was debating between 2 tiers, everyone else is super solid


@datisi I was trying to make all avatars perfect squares/the exact same size… got to SS’s avatar… and just gave up on that plan

@implosion lol yeah that reaction… I was like “ok guess I’m just watching this play out lol cause… wow.. is VP’s tier like 3/3 maf or something… cause like.. wow”

@ari no the list isn’t rng, it’s reads related, the people in the tiers are the same level, but the levels are not ordered

majority of the reason for me even posting that was how the game felt “dead” and guess what? it created like 10 instant posts, got people talking!! mission accomplished!! I love how no one is talking about that, it’s just “andante changed votes 8 times!!” ok? I either move it a lot or like never.. but since hut’s paying specific attention, it might be town indicative tbh, and yeah @hut, I’m a she, it’s not a huge deal, cause I’m used to it, but uhh yeah


yikes long post… I need to go back to chilling… can’t wait to get yelled at for this post… IM JUST TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND MAKE YALL HAVE A GOOD TIME!!! as well as find maf, I don’t get all the “ANDANTE SCUMMY!!!” stuff… i know I’m like never towny by play… but literally leave me alone and I’ll find a 3/3… ahhhhh

[Aristeia]

Dats I miss you <3

[Andante]

Dats I miss you <3

Can we please just stop with this? It's actually getting annoying, I signed up to play mafia, not for this... who do you think the mafia are/why?

[Datisi]

majority of the reason for me even posting that was how the game felt “dead” and guess what? it created like 10 instant posts, got people talking!! mission accomplished!!

...did the posts that were created after you posted that """readslist""" in any way productive to the game? what did you learn from them? what *is* the meaning of the tiers?

[fireisredsir]

yeah vp having that response to that tier list is honestly among the most wild things i've seen in mafia games.

Glad to be No.1!

I find the tiers list to be tryharding LAMIST more than actual scumhunting or providing insight into her thought process.

if she was tryharding LAMIST why wouldn't she just make a normal tier list?

saying its not actual scumhunting or providing insight into her thought process is just... i mean, yes? it's intentionally obfuscated and unhelpful bc it's funny. your implication seems to be that it is supposed to LOOK like it's useful but actually isn't, when like, i think the fact that it isn't is p surface level already

[VP Baltar]

your implication seems to be that it is supposed to LOOK like it's useful but actually isn't, when like, i think the fact that it isn't is p surface level already

No, not at all. The goal, fmpov, was to be funny. It's a social game type post.

Look at her now trying to spin it as useful because it generated discussion. The goal is to buy good will, not find scum.

I could just see that from a mile away as soon as she posted it.