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Spoiler: me refreshing this slow site for jingle's pmYou are always gonna be my love-
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so you think I am preempting you on page one of RVS when I don't need to because?In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really neededYou are always gonna be my love-
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like why does scum!me need to pre-empt you again? Do you think scum!me would fear town!you ? why?You are always gonna be my love-
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answer the questionIn post 34, Klick wrote:In post 23, Aristeia wrote:
so you think I am preempting you on page one of RVS when I don't need to because?In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
This is surprisingly defensive for page one of RVSIn post 24, Aristeia wrote: like why does scum!me need to pre-empt you again? Do you think scum!me would fear town!you ? why?You are always gonna be my love-
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like none of what you've done so far feels like you are trying to sort me, its like p vague generic shade
"preemptively offensive"
"surprisingly defensive"
theres little actual reasoning about my alignment.You are always gonna be my love-
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what does this have to do with my alignmentIn post 47, Klick wrote:
Here's an actual thoughtIn post 43, Aristeia wrote: do you not have actual thoughts Klick
You and I seem to actively clash playstyles consistently, at least early onYou are always gonna be my love-
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so here's some context people don't really know unless they know history between myself, klick and sircakez
a couple of months ago, all three of us played in a game together;
viewtopic.php?t=90287
where Klick(scum) did a tunnel on me and pushed me d1 nonstop - I ended up getting fustrated and replacing out but mostly because of some other things - it was a pretty successful tunnel and managed to cloud the game state pretty well on d1.
then a month later all three of us were playing in a different game together;
viewtopic.php?t=90425
and SirCakez(mafia) decided to also tunnel me on D1 - I thought he did it because he saw Klick do it fairly successfully so I interrogated him and ended up getting him yeeted after tracking him to a nightkill.
so SirCakez knows that I have a pretty sensitive trigger finger for when I sense someone pushing me in bad faith - esp Klick who has done it before decently.
So his read on me that I'm posting "unnaturally" when I interrogate Klick is pretty bizarre to me considering he's seen me do it to himself.You are always gonna be my love-
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I don't think this comment actually makes sense if Klick thinks I'm mafia trying to misyeet him - it only makes sense if he thinks I'm town and he's trying to get me to back off.In post 47, Klick wrote:
Here's an actual thoughtIn post 43, Aristeia wrote: do you not have actual thoughts Klick
You and I seem to actively clash playstyles consistently, at least early on
I don't even think it's accurate because I remember I've worked together fairly well with Klick at least early in the game as our last two games together were;
viewtopic.php?t=90508
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We were Town/Town in both and I don't remember having any playstyle clashes with him early in the game so it's kind of a ?? defense to me.You are always gonna be my love-
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on a further note
I think it might make sense for us to use the mechanics of this game where instead of eliminating a player pair - we simply do not vote to eliminate and instead in the pairing part of the game we pair to make a double elimination desirable.
for example if I were to remain convinced Klick is mafia by the end of this phase - I would like to dance with him so I can yeet him myself and if he flips mafia I would like Cakez to follow nextYou are always gonna be my love-
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like trading 1:1 town to mafia is pretty favorable since this is essentially a nightless mountainous game - it would also remove the issue of RH9 possibly being an innocent bystander in all of this as well as cover the downside possibility where Klick flips town and then I have to deal with the headache of "well did Ari!scum powerwolf the Klick elim which can be kind of fustrating.
Knowing the exact alignment splt of an early conflict is pretty useful for seeing how everyone else played around it.You are always gonna be my love-
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I think Cakez has a pretty vivid memory of when I pushed him back when he decided to tunnel me on D1 since he made it pretty clear in the thread he found it painful so I don't see why he would forget the experience and believe my posting here is any different. It's such a nonspecific comment that I find it hard to believe as coming from a unagenda'd perspective.In post 67, Infinity 324 wrote:
this seems like a towny-biased post, i could definitely see it just feeling different to cakez but town is less likely to see that as a possibilityIn post 64, Aristeia wrote: So his read on me that I'm posting "unnaturally" when I interrogate Klick is pretty bizarre to me considering he's seen me do it to himself.You are always gonna be my love-
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well if collectively we are for eliminating me/klickIn post 75, Dannflor wrote: you could vote out klick and then yeet yourself with your second-highest scum read if that's the way you want to go
but i think mafia is going to avoid pairing with people who they believe actively scum read them ?
during the pairing phase nobody will pair with me/klick and we will be yeeted together. to rescue klick would be a scumclaimYou are always gonna be my love-
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whether we lim or not is not important because the mafia do not have a nightkill if im reading the rules correctlyYou are always gonna be my love-
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like being able to select any two players to lim is much stronger imo than being forced into eliminating a certain player pairYou are always gonna be my love-
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well let's look at what happens if Klick is town here and so is his partner - worst case scenario;In post 82, Dannflor wrote: I'm not even sure what benefit this would get you besides if you're wrong you don't have to deal with the consequences?? like you should know you're town so voting two slots out that you don't know the alignment of should be preferable to trading 1 for 1
I flip Klick/RH9 - they both flip town - we're at 7 town 3 Mafia
I get flipped with my partner the next day, we're at 5 town 3 mafia which is elo
Not a great position.
if instead I pair with Klick and we flip together and we're T/T - then you know from 7 town 3 mafia that it was a T/T conflict early d1 and you have room to look for how people played around it and scumhunt.
similarly look at what happens if Klick is mafia and RH9 is town.
if I just flip Klick normally, we are at 8 Town 2 Mafia.
If I pair with Klick and we both flip, we are also at 8 Town 2 Mafia.
it's basically protected from my point of view because it eliminates some downside scenarios while keeping the upside fairly similar.You are always gonna be my love-
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I don't think there's a significant risk of townies making a hero read and defying popular will.
and even if such a thing did happen - there is little downside risk. Worse case scenario in a week's time we are back to dancing with no eliminations, new pairs, and a lot more information with which to make a decision.You are always gonna be my love-
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7 days for an elimination doesn't feel like a tremendous amount of time. towns normally take that long to make a decision anyway.
We can track votes via other methods and simply pair the two highest voted players to be dancing into the night if you prefer that kind of system.You are always gonna be my love-
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I do recognize the criticism that such a system might be unfun or against the spirit of the game etc. if people don't want to do it I have no problems with just playing normally.In post 86, Dannflor wrote: idk I'm just not really interested in having everyone unvote and then waiting out 7 days of irl time. it just isn't realistic or fun
and like even if it's mechanically "optimal"
i don't believe it would actually increase our EV over generating natural reads over wagons on D1You are always gonna be my love-
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the key thing that makes no elims bad is that if you no lim - the mafia get to nightkill and pull ahead.In post 72, Doctor Drew wrote: I will say I am not used to all the effort from Ari.
Someone who is better at(and cared more about) mech, is it better to not lim someone here?
Isn't that not ever a good idea on D1?
this is a nightless game - there are no mafia nightkills, we can nolim over and over and never fall behind - however because the game is designed to re-pair players every day cycle, we can shuffle players around to get two elims we want rather than one elim we want and then a person who just happens to be paired with the elim we want.You are always gonna be my love-
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you think im trying to flip myself and klick so i can push you from the grave as flipped scum?You are always gonna be my love-
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I am trying to figure out if Klick has real thoughts.In post 97, SirCakez wrote:In post 23, Aristeia wrote:
so you think I am preempting you on page one of RVS when I don't need to because?In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
These were the initial posts that pinged me, but I decided to hold back for a bit (which Dann can verify)In post 24, Aristeia wrote: like why does scum!me need to pre-empt you again? Do you think scum!me would fear town!you ? why?
These just don't seem like a natural way to react on literally page one. I know Ari is defensive but these posts just read like they are trying to start something that doesn't exist.You are always gonna be my love-
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I dunno but you've seen me interrogate people who push me so its weird to me you think its unnatural for me to do it to Klick.In post 98, SirCakez wrote:
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.In post 96, SirCakez wrote: Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my voteYou are always gonna be my love-
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In post 104, SirCakez wrote:
Klicks posts didn't even read as a push to me, it looked like page 1 rvs bs. That's why it feels so odd.In post 103, Aristeia wrote:
I dunno but you've seen me interrogate people who push me so its weird to me you think its unnatural for me to do it to Klick.In post 98, SirCakez wrote:
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.In post 96, SirCakez wrote: Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my vote
well thats why i asked him about his "omgus scummy af" line
i didnt know if it was a push or a rvs joke
he then doubled down on it being a pushYou are always gonna be my love-
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like are you actually making the case "hey i did this thing of shitpushing Ari as scum" and she absolutely murdered me for it.In post 98, SirCakez wrote: Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
thus i would not do it again because it ended so badly!
Also ari who has already experienced being shitpushed by me as scum on D1 has no reason to suspect I would do the same move again because it failed last time.
Like that's some pretty hideous logic.
if I know you have the capability of making a shitpush d1 as scum on me, you doing it again is the first thing I suspect because you've shown a capacity and preference for it in the past.You are always gonna be my love-
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he called me scummy af and when I asked to clarification he responded that I was "preemptively attacking him before it was necesary"In post 107, SirCakez wrote:
Infinity called it a push so maybe this is just a difference of wording/play/etc type thingIn post 39, Infinity 324 wrote: ari might be scum but i'm gonna just not push my partner this early sorry
klick's push there i do find weird
ydrasse is conftown
you think that's an RVS joke and not a push
explainYou are always gonna be my love-
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^ him calling me scummy af
^ me asking for clarificationIn post 20, Aristeia wrote: because?
^ him claiming that I am trying to preemptively attack him whatever that means.In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really neededYou are always gonna be my love-
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most of the time I just ignore people who make votes on me in RVS with nonsensical reasoning because its RVS people going to do stupid things
but if you've shitpushed me in the past d1 as scum I will be absolutely mercilessYou are always gonna be my love-
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also this happens to be the exact same excuse he used to push me last time he was mafia on d1In post 55, Klick wrote: I have no towny feelings from Ari at this moment
"i feel ari has done nothing townie"
which is kind of a bullshit read when you cant come up with anything to push someone onYou are always gonna be my love-
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its basically word for word the same nonsense reasoning he used last time to push me as scum.In post 309, Klick wrote:
When I say 'trying to figure the game out', I'm not just saying Una is doing basic solving motionsIn post 222, Lucian wrote:Klick's 217 is bleh. Saying that someone's solving comes from "them trying to figure the game out" is a textbook early-scumhunting sentence that doesn't really inspire confidence I guess. Maybe it's because I can kind of see what Norwee is saying about her recently. Level zero.
Una is posting thoughts and I genuinely believe she believes what she's saying
Post 68 specifically feels like genuine thoughts about the game as opposed to her trying to persuade me that she's town or that Gamma is scum
She's done nothing to make me townread herKlick, why are you voting Ari?You are always gonna be my love-
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I really want to pair up with Klick so we can both exit because I have absolutely 0 patience for someone thinking they can do the same shitpush two times in a rowYou are always gonna be my love-
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Cakes you feel like Frozen scum.
I am sorry if I am wrong
but if Klick is town nobody will listen to me and I'll be dead too so you don't actually have to engage with this content.You are always gonna be my love-
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In post 116, SirCakez wrote:
This doesn't make any sense. I'm not great at mafia but I'm not bad enough to the point where I'm going to repeat a tactic that failed like two months ago. Do you really think I came in here as scum with a game plan to immediately stir shit with you? What kind of plan would that be? What would my goal even be? We both know that I'm not going to be able to get anywhere close to elimming you by myselfIn post 108, Aristeia wrote:
like are you actually making the case "hey i did this thing of shitpushing Ari as scum" and she absolutely murdered me for it.In post 98, SirCakez wrote: Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
thus i would not do it again because it ended so badly!
Also ari who has already experienced being shitpushed by me as scum on D1 has no reason to suspect I would do the same move again because it failed last time.
Like that's some pretty hideous logic.
if I know you have the capability of making a shitpush d1 as scum on me, you doing it again is the first thing I suspect because you've shown a capacity and preference for it in the past.
I think you saw me at a number of votes, you thought it would be good to elim me, and then you decided to vote me and made up an excuse to do so.
I certainly do not believe you think my treatment of Klick is "unnatural" as you put it since you have literally seen me do it to you when scum!you shitpushed town me.
You are now using refuge in audacity as a defense by saying that pushing me is so dangerous that you wouldn't do it as scum.
This is a basic logical fallacy and an excuse used by scum players to justify shady looking votes with little to no reasoning.
Also it doesn't make sense for you to try to convince me that you're town who thinks I'm mafia as my plan is to flip myself and Klick on D1. If I'm scum as you claim to believe and I turn scum, I think you would hardly need to worry about the town listening to a flipped scum ari. Your attitude towards me can only make sense if you think I'm town.You are always gonna be my love-
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ok so you think I'm mafia do you oppose me pairing with klick and flipping both of our slots then?In post 119, SirCakez wrote: I don't even have a take on Klicks push itself honestly, it seems pretty mid to me and it's not a factor in my read on AriYou are always gonna be my love-
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if we decide to go with my plan,In post 122, Meuh wrote: Nolim is lame and I'd rather not do it. I agree with Dannflor that even if mechanically optimal in an ideal world, the effect it'd have on the gamestate would ultimately give us less info and it'd be at best neutral overall (plus we waste a week of time waiting around)
it would be effectively deciding to eliminate me and Klick
which is two eliminations in 7 days
and faster than most games go?You are always gonna be my love-
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we can't vote no lim and skip straight to pairing ?In post 128, Meuh wrote:
But we'll be spending those 7 days not voting and waiting for you guys to dieIn post 126, Aristeia wrote:
if we decide to go with my plan,In post 122, Meuh wrote: Nolim is lame and I'd rather not do it. I agree with Dannflor that even if mechanically optimal in an ideal world, the effect it'd have on the gamestate would ultimately give us less info and it'd be at best neutral overall (plus we waste a week of time waiting around)
it would be effectively deciding to eliminate me and Klick
which is two eliminations in 7 days
and faster than most games go?
It's not just pure time spent, it's also how productive that time will be, and I know it won't be as productive as it would be if we just decided to go for a limYou are always gonna be my love-
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well if you think it's me just let me dance with klick ?In post 135, Doctor Drew wrote:
Leaning you, but I don't mind letting you cook. Like I said you are just different than I have seen.In post 131, Aristeia wrote: who's scum drew
I don't get the situation around Klick.
Wouldn't be surprised if scum lies in the lurkers so far.....short day phase, there actually is reason to hang back if town is fucking itself.You are always gonna be my love-
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I'm fine with people scumhunting more
I am just saying if you believe my case on Klick or you believe I am mafia - I think it makes sense for you to let the clock run the 7 days and then I can exit with Klick.You are always gonna be my love-
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dance games are basically double eliminations
this one just happens to be pretty townsided in that we can pick and match the people we want to elim instead of being forced to elim certain pairsYou are always gonna be my love-
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I think everyone voting for no-lim understands that it entails eliminating me/klick as the first pair gone.
I guess if it's important we can also do some kind of psuedo-voting?
like every player may vote for any number of other players. at the end of seven days we commit to eliminating the two highest voted players as in everyone will pair up with each other except for them and they will necessarily be cast into the cold.You are always gonna be my love-
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that kind of system feels like it's a lot more work and a lot less fun imo though. we'd have to actually keep track of things ourselves and enforcement could be kind of a mess.You are always gonna be my love-
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"early on"In post 158, Klick wrote:
You literally spent most of the second half of Hollow Knight tunneling meIn post 65, Aristeia wrote:
I don't think this comment actually makes sense if Klick thinks I'm mafia trying to misyeet him - it only makes sense if he thinks I'm town and he's trying to get me to back off.In post 47, Klick wrote:
Here's an actual thoughtIn post 43, Aristeia wrote: do you not have actual thoughts Klick
You and I seem to actively clash playstyles consistently, at least early on
I don't even think it's accurate because I remember I've worked together fairly well with Klick at least early in the game as our last two games together were;
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We were Town/Town in both and I don't remember having any playstyle clashes with him early in the game so it's kind of a ?? defense to me.
And I'm not rereading the Micro atm but I'm pretty sure we were both on each other early
and I didn't even think it was you in HK until like day 6 or 7You are always gonna be my love-
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also your entire "this is a playstyle clash" comment makes little sense with your belief that I am mafia.You are always gonna be my love-
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i'm sorry why wouldn't you just say "i was joking" instead of doubling down and trying to make up some nonsense about "offense and defense" and answering Dannflor by doubling down over and over again.You are always gonna be my love-
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this doesn't sound like a jokeIn post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
this sounds like you reaching for an explanation and digging yourself deeper and deeper into doubling downYou are always gonna be my love-
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I don't know but that's literally what you did last time you were scum with town!meIn post 166, Klick wrote:
Why does Klick!scum feel the need to come up with a bullshit read to push someone on on page threeIn post 112, Aristeia wrote:
also this happens to be the exact same excuse he used to push me last time he was mafia on d1In post 55, Klick wrote: I have no towny feelings from Ari at this moment
"i feel ari has done nothing townie"
which is kind of a bullshit read when you cant come up with anything to push someone onYou are always gonna be my love-
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I don't particularly care for your self metaIn post 167, Klick wrote:
I was doing a pretty good job emulating parts of my town play thereIn post 113, Aristeia wrote:
its basically word for word the same nonsense reasoning he used last time to push me as scum.In post 309, Klick wrote:
When I say 'trying to figure the game out', I'm not just saying Una is doing basic solving motionsIn post 222, Lucian wrote:Klick's 217 is bleh. Saying that someone's solving comes from "them trying to figure the game out" is a textbook early-scumhunting sentence that doesn't really inspire confidence I guess. Maybe it's because I can kind of see what Norwee is saying about her recently. Level zero.
Una is posting thoughts and I genuinely believe she believes what she's saying
Post 68 specifically feels like genuine thoughts about the game as opposed to her trying to persuade me that she's town or that Gamma is scum
She's done nothing to make me townread herKlick, why are you voting Ari?
The big difference there was I cared a lot more about how my message was receivedYou are always gonna be my love-
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In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
none of this reads as a joke to meIn post 34, Klick wrote:In post 23, Aristeia wrote:
so you think I am preempting you on page one of RVS when I don't need to because?In post 21, Klick wrote: It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
This is surprisingly defensive for page one of RVSIn post 24, Aristeia wrote: like why does scum!me need to pre-empt you again? Do you think scum!me would fear town!you ? why?You are always gonna be my love-
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it feels like you decided to do some half-assed shit push on me because it worked before and now you want to back off and say "I was just joking" after spending all of yesterday doubling down and claiming that I'm mafia for some combination of offense and defense or whatever mumbo jumbo you made upYou are always gonna be my love-
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I think you didn't really understand how the elimination mechanism in this game workedYou are always gonna be my love-
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I asked you why you thought I was scummy afIn post 178, Klick wrote: Aristeia I went into this thinking you weren't that interested in understanding my thought process and were more interested in pushing something you didn't immediately understand
I think you're town but your recent posting reaffirms that for me
Which is why I'm not really engaging with your main point
you spent an entire day coming up with answers and now you claim it was because you were just jokingYou are always gonna be my love-
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