In post 122, Meuh wrote:
Nolim is lame and I'd rather not do it. I agree with Dannflor that even if mechanically optimal in an ideal world, the effect it'd have on the gamestate would ultimately give us less info and it'd be at best neutral overall (plus we waste a week of time waiting around)
if we decide to go with my plan,
it would be effectively deciding to eliminate me and Klick
which is two eliminations in 7 days
and faster than most games go?
gotta hand it to you for turning a dance mechanic into a double suicide one
yea I know, but idk if I'm on board with your plan tho
it bypasses voting, so it kinda removes accountability from players since they don't need to commit to a vote
a lot less can be gleaned from people voting for nolim than voting to eliminate specific players/pairs
I think it might make sense for us to use the mechanics of this game where instead of eliminating a player pair - we simply do not vote to eliminate and instead in the pairing part of the game we pair to make a double elimination desirable.
for example if I were to remain convinced Klick is mafia by the end of this phase - I would like to dance with him so I can yeet him myself and if he flips mafia I would like Cakez to follow next
Actually, this isn't exactly the worst idea.
This could get the scum killed faster. VOTE: no lim
I think everyone voting for no-lim understands that it entails eliminating me/klick as the first pair gone.
I guess if it's important we can also do some kind of psuedo-voting?
like every player may vote for any number of other players. at the end of seven days we commit to eliminating the two highest voted players as in everyone will pair up with each other except for them and they will necessarily be cast into the cold.
that kind of system feels like it's a lot more work and a lot less fun imo though. we'd have to actually keep track of things ourselves and enforcement could be kind of a mess.
In post 122, Meuh wrote:
Nolim is lame and I'd rather not do it. I agree with Dannflor that even if mechanically optimal in an ideal world, the effect it'd have on the gamestate would ultimately give us less info and it'd be at best neutral overall (plus we waste a week of time waiting around)
if we decide to go with my plan,
it would be effectively deciding to eliminate me and Klick
which is two eliminations in 7 days
and faster than most games go?
But we'll be spending those 7 days not voting and waiting for you guys to die
It's not just pure time spent, it's also how productive that time will be, and I know it won't be as productive as it would be if we just decided to go for a lim
Here's an actual thought
You and I seem to actively clash playstyles consistently, at least early on
I don't think this comment actually makes sense if Klick thinks I'm mafia trying to misyeet him - it only makes sense if he thinks I'm town and he's trying to get me to back off.
I don't even think it's accurate because I remember I've worked together fairly well with Klick at least early in the game as our last two games together were;
We were Town/Town in both and I don't remember having any playstyle clashes with him early in the game so it's kind of a ?? defense to me.
You literally spent most of the second half of Hollow Knight tunneling me
And I'm not rereading the Micro atm but I'm pretty sure we were both on each other early
Here's an actual thought
You and I seem to actively clash playstyles consistently, at least early on
I don't think this comment actually makes sense if Klick thinks I'm mafia trying to misyeet him - it only makes sense if he thinks I'm town and he's trying to get me to back off.
I don't even think it's accurate because I remember I've worked together fairly well with Klick at least early in the game as our last two games together were;
We were Town/Town in both and I don't remember having any playstyle clashes with him early in the game so it's kind of a ?? defense to me.
You literally spent most of the second half of Hollow Knight tunneling me
And I'm not rereading the Micro atm but I'm pretty sure we were both on each other early
"early on"
and I didn't even think it was you in HK until like day 6 or 7
In post 96, SirCakez wrote:
Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my vote
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
I dunno but you've seen me interrogate people who push me so its weird to me you think its unnatural for me to do it to Klick.
Klicks posts didn't even read as a push to me, it looked like page 1 rvs bs. That's why it feels so odd.
i'm sorry why wouldn't you just say "i was joking" instead of doubling down and trying to make up some nonsense about "offense and defense" and answering Dannflor by doubling down over and over again.
In post 222, Lucian wrote:Klick's 217 is bleh. Saying that someone's solving comes from "them trying to figure the game out" is a textbook early-scumhunting sentence that doesn't really inspire confidence I guess. Maybe it's because I can kind of see what Norwee is saying about her recently. Level zero.
When I say 'trying to figure the game out', I'm not just saying Una is doing basic solving motions
Una is posting thoughts and I genuinely believe she believes what she's saying
Post 68 specifically feels like genuine thoughts about the game as opposed to her trying to persuade me that she's town or that Gamma is scum
Klick, why are you voting Ari?
She's done nothing to make me townread her
its basically word for word the same nonsense reasoning he used last time to push me as scum.
I was doing a pretty good job emulating parts of my town play there
The big difference there was I cared a lot more about how my message was received
In post 222, Lucian wrote:Klick's 217 is bleh. Saying that someone's solving comes from "them trying to figure the game out" is a textbook early-scumhunting sentence that doesn't really inspire confidence I guess. Maybe it's because I can kind of see what Norwee is saying about her recently. Level zero.
When I say 'trying to figure the game out', I'm not just saying Una is doing basic solving motions
Una is posting thoughts and I genuinely believe she believes what she's saying
Post 68 specifically feels like genuine thoughts about the game as opposed to her trying to persuade me that she's town or that Gamma is scum
Klick, why are you voting Ari?
She's done nothing to make me townread her
its basically word for word the same nonsense reasoning he used last time to push me as scum.
I was doing a pretty good job emulating parts of my town play there
The big difference there was I cared a lot more about how my message was received
it feels like you decided to do some half-assed shit push on me because it worked before and now you want to back off and say "I was just joking" after spending all of yesterday doubling down and claiming that I'm mafia for some combination of offense and defense or whatever mumbo jumbo you made up
