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Post #2584 (isolation #406) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:29 am
Postby tris »
In post 2576, Black wrote:
Now that we know Ranger/JV is scum I don't really think we can clear Jupiter for not knowing who replaced JV. If Ranger were town I think this would have been more believable
wouldn't it be the other way around? scum jupiter would have more awareness of who his scumbuddies were.
Dann was pretty convinced Jupiter was town though and I generally trust his reads, so this is tough
In post 2576, Black wrote:
Now that we know Ranger/JV is scum I don't really think we can clear Jupiter for not knowing who replaced JV. If Ranger were town I think this would have been more believable
wouldn't it be the other way around? scum jupiter would have more awareness of who his scumbuddies were.
Dann was pretty convinced Jupiter was town though and I generally trust his reads, so this is tough
i agree
I guess I'm thinking it's more likely for Jupiter to fake this if it involves his scumbuddy
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Post #2599 (isolation #410) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:40 am
Postby tris »
an important question is why fire decided to hammer. if black is scum, ALL of the other wagons were on scum. so i guess that would be a reason. but, they always had to option to bus. they choose not to. i wonder who mafia hopes for pc to hammer here
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Post #2601 (isolation #412) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:42 am
Postby tris »
In post 2598, Political Clout wrote:
in fact my hammer seems to only have gone through when I said I was going to switch to fire and try to convince tris to join.
In post 2105, JupiterXV wrote:
lemme uh, check ISO and see if PC/Black is more or less likely. give me a sec,
In post 2106, JupiterXV wrote:
I know Black and JV were sitting on the same wagon together on me but in the timeframe when JV got more inactive Black rescinded wagon on me. I'll have to see if my estimates are right or not
If im reading this correctly then Jupiter would be faking the replacement thing from this point
sobasically jupiter is like "ok heres how were gonna get a lim on Political Clout. i am going to fake a misunderstanding in subtle ways for 5 days while also just like voting other people"
it just like really doesnt seem likely to me
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Post #2685 (isolation #422) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:11 am
Postby tris »
In post 2642, hellbooks wrote:
ok so the arguments in favor of tris scum
- careful seeming bussing of JV and fire
- trying to slow down the game maybe demonstrative of fearing assassin
- black's flailing here feels kind of towny but admittedly i dont know meta
arguments in favor of black scum
- PC counter wagon timing after serious hammer threat to fire
- more unwilling to rule jupiter out which might be towny critical thinking but would also probably be a necessary move to get cover after the PC wagon plus leaving more options open
undecided
- ranger black post wagon interaction... but the thing is fire & black were also kind of like doing a simultaneous opposite theater preformance that was also happening. yeah maybe. plausibly all three scum just jump in the thread and do excessive bits of theatre to try and reclaim the position they sacrificed in order to protect fire lim. i kind of had this pet theory that black was pretending to townread fire in hopes that he is convinced to try to endgame which seems not to be true
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Post #2686 (isolation #423) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:15 am
Postby tris »
In post 2642, hellbooks wrote:
- trying to slow down the game maybe demonstrative of fearing assassin
i understand this perspective but it was simply that i am afraid of voting if i haven't done the work. i waaaas going to engage yesterday evening, but there's no way i can prove that
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Post #2689 (isolation #426) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:21 am
Postby tris »
In post 2667, hellbooks wrote:
its like 60 40 tris for me
the problem is i just keep coming up with alternate explanations for things and finding them believable
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Post #2691 (isolation #427) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:26 am
Postby tris »
In post 2678, hellbooks wrote:
i dont remember her ever being like "im gonna go back and read so that i can come up with some good ideas" the way she did here, feels like pretty similar thing JV did
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Post #2713 (isolation #435) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:51 am
Postby tris »
thinking back to how fire didn't vote hammer when she first had the chance. couldn't she have gotten out with ranger then and leave behind hellbooks or black? this is something that could indicate that jupiter is actually the scum. but, maybe she was afraid political clout was bluffing. yeah i don't think this is a strong point. there's a lot of reasons fire could have hesitated
tris can you explain why you voted for Virgo initially and also why you unvoted?
i voted because i had little reason to townread them i think. i unvoted probably because of the wall they had posted about jupiter. not sure why i didn't vote somewhere else.
In post 1010, tris wrote:
i should consider the merits of returning my vote to JV
In post 1019, tris wrote:
if i were forced to vote right this moment, i would vote for black. alright night night!
And why did you decide you would rather fade me over him?
i forgot that i scum read you a little bit there. oh right. you had seemed less engaged than last time. you seemed to have less of the so called fire in you.
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Post #2755 (isolation #446) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:42 pm
Postby tris »
In post 2746, hellbooks wrote:
i thought tris reminding me of how i townread her before the flips was just not really a good response like of course i remember that its just that i reconsidered
well im asking you because i want to know why! like what changed in your thinking. none of your posts really aknowledged the town read you had had on me before.
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Post #2757 (isolation #448) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Postby tris »
In post 2749, Black wrote:
If I'm wrong, oh well. I didn't really have a good grasp on this game anyway. I'm happy I was right about fire and Ranger though
maybe its clear in the thread but, i dont recall right now. why did you vote pc?
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Post #2759 (isolation #449) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:45 pm
Postby tris »
In post 2750, hellbooks wrote:
i dont know how to respond to black bc the only thing i can think of is like "well ofc she finds a bunch of stuff when PC says its between black and hellbooks" but i just dont see it that way
i didnt rly scrutinize fire at the start of the game bc i thought i would have a rly hard time sorting him. like that was gonna be the endgame problem for me
this is what i was assuming your process with fire was
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Post #2776 (isolation #460) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:13 pm
Postby tris »
hmm, but i guess it's easy to generate scumreads on your team mates. and this is a set up which encourages scum to have one teammate who is meant to go deep