Open 716: Making Friends and Enemies [Game Over]

[Alisae]

Hullo
I only replaced in cuz Aster is doing such a good job modding (that's all I really payed attention to when following this) and probably going to post in only gifs or images or something to entertain myself. Or maybe not but you get the point.
I don't have time to actually do anything atm since I have to design a game offsite but I will try to get something done tomorrow?
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

alisae we have 48 fucking hours to the deadline please play the game

Yes.
I see that.
I want to knock out some design first and then I'll look at the current wagons.

If you want to be HELPFUL and give me something to work with like a quick summary, that would be very fucking helpful.

[Alisae]

Mkay I won't even bother looking at Ankamius, SS, and kmd?
Its probably a waste of time, especially if I do end up TRing you

and it sounds like my predecessor was very bad at the game.
sigh
look man
I was going to fuck around with gifs and memes and what not but tomorrow I'll probably get up and play I'm kinda sleepy right now as is.

[Alisae]

and my slot hasn't been locked as trash newbie town yet becauuuuuuuse?

[Alisae]

Yeah I used the word trash and newbie for a reason

[Alisae]

Plz don’t vote me

[Alisae]

Okay all I read was Bu’s ISO
VOTE: Green Crayons
I think GL is spewed town from points in like 461 and 257 so I don’t want that to be a lynch

[Alisae]

VOTE: GL

Bye, Felicia.

Yeah I was thinking this could be Bu’s 2nd wolfbuddy

[Alisae]

lol Alisae you're too late

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC?
IN A YOUNG GIRL’S HEART

[Alisae]

tomorrow should be 1v1 between Alisae/brass first and foremost

I always win this btw.

[Alisae]

I don’t TR GC?

[Alisae]

Because I feel like Bu’s interactions with GL are TvS?

[Alisae]

That’s quite literally all I read so far is Bu’s ISO

[Alisae]

jesus it's probably just brass/GC we're fine

Edit: alisae i'm not talking to you

SO LETS LYNCH GREEN CRAYONS
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

[Alisae]

WE GOT THE VOTES
WE GOT THE TIME
CFD TIMES LETS GO

I BELIEVE IN MAGIC AND YOU CAN TO
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS VOTE GREEN CRAYONS!

[Alisae]

Oh wait I just noticed there was a hammer
Lmfao fuck me

[Alisae]

can I get shot now?

[Alisae]

I would really like to get shot please shoot me ty

[Alisae]

But I think GL is town D:

[Alisae]

But i’m Town watch I’ma get nightkilled tonight :3

[Alisae]

New 1v1 option for tomorrow from you, GL?

HELLO WOLF HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

[Alisae]

New 1v1 option for tomorrow from you, GL?

HELLO WOLF HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

I'm a pig, what are you talking about? I built the straw house. Strongest material I know.

you should try bricks next time

[Alisae]

Btw if one of brass and GC flips town I’m lynching Dino
Just fruit for thought

Pedit: Ye its a good strat

[Alisae]

why are you arguing with lynched town

WHY ARE YOU ARGUEING WITH NOT LYNCHED TOWN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Alisae]

I’ll do things tomorrow if I’m alive!
I’ll do things tomorrow!
OOH OOH!
YEAH!
SHOOT ME PLEASE TY

[Alisae]

I got something known as 2 FAKE GUILTIES on the wolfteam and a tool that’s BETTER then ELLIBERETH’S the PARAGON OF MAFIA CATCHERS.
I’ll have you know that I will dish out JUSTICE if I am not dealt with tonight
I am the top of my class in the navy seals.
You have been warned.

[Alisae]

scumLion never gets wagoned, he's not a god of scumplay but he's basically a god of scumplay

no you get wagoned when ur a wolf because u get guiltied see its in ur name
GUILTY
LION
GUILTY
LION
GUILTY
LION

[Alisae]

Do Navy Seals eat cats, and bite off hands?

Navy Seals of Mafia Hunters shoot down wolves with WORDS AND YELLING AND OBNOXIOUS SCREAMING

[Alisae]

Do Navy Seals eat cats, and bite off hands?

Navy Seals of Mafia Hunters shoot down wolves with WORDS AND YELLING AND OBNOXIOUS SCREAMING

Hey! That was a solid Arrested Development reference.

i tri rly hrd kay

[Alisae]

Now the real question is
Is math TMIing that GUILTY LION is in fact town?

[Alisae]

Honestly I have a game to design but shitposting is so much low effort and so fun I rather do that tbh
Or sleep
That works too

[Alisae]

But argueing with people on the internet is fun

[Alisae]

Tbh I shoulda told Ploti this was the game I was going to hydra with him in but alas
Wasted opportunities.

[Alisae]

Actually tbf this game doesn’t deserve Ploti.

[Alisae]

Just do Brass GC thats ur wolfteam ez

[Alisae]

brass who do you think is scum

now that I'm town and your Mylo/GL theory is disproved

OOOH
THOSE ARE THE REAL QUESTIONS.
BA DUM TIS

[Alisae]

Ok I'm apparently seven pages behind.

Tl;dr me what happened up to now.

Brass hammered GL its twilight now

[Alisae]

Mylo Town
Ank Town
I'm Town
SS Is Town

I'm okay lynching in Brass, GC, and Math for game.

[Alisae]

Like Sparkles just comes off as super fucking wolfy to me.
And GC is like what probs their bud

And then I just don't like Math today with him thinking kmd is a mason and him being dead.

[Alisae]

Honestly I'm tempted to vote Math tbh I feel like he should have read verydark as trash newb town and not a wolf
like he's better then that.

[Alisae]

ty its my mission to do that

[Alisae]

but brass was scummy so
VOTE: Brass

[Alisae]

lol

[Alisae]

I ISOed Agent Sparkles over night and deemed him scummy and Brass' EoD is wolfy.
I kind of feel like Mylo is town cuz gut
I don't like your SoD
You're probably not a wolf with Ank so she is town.
SS is just town
GC PoE and is probably a wolf with Brass judging by Bu's ISO

[Alisae]

Doesn't look good on me having Kmd as my top masonread, I know. That said, that's 2 nightkills now that scum have failed to kill a mason, and you know from Three In One that I can do MUCH better than that.

Like REALLY Mathdino?
REALLY?

[Alisae]

Alisae, Math is town. Don't get distracted.

I mean I’m voting Brass so...

[Alisae]

tonight I shoot Mathdino if me and SS are wolfs hahahaha

[Alisae]

VOTE: GC

[Alisae]

haha I don't get to go lylo if this is a mislynch

[Alisae]

do it man
don't let your dreams be dreams

[Alisae]

also me and SS were going to do maps overnight
instead you can read the masonry on what happened
point is
we never got to the maps

[Alisae]

Ank why should I not instavote you?

[Alisae]

Besides that being bad play that's not really a valid arguement

[Alisae]

I mean like yeah I have 14 days to hash out conerns or whatever but I'm leaning ank right now

btw ywall should do the 1v1 thing.

[Alisae]

Yeah I get to throw popcorn at you and you get to entertain me its pretty fun
if you preform poorly I throw rotten tomatoes and potentially hammers at you.
If you do ur job you win!

[Alisae]

Mylo put a vote down.
I'm confirmed town I'm not going to hammer.

[Alisae]

see
no hammer

[Alisae]

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[Alisae]

VOTE: M y l

wait I said I wasn't going to hammer bad me bad

[Alisae]

I've been confirmed town since Mathdino outed me and SS

[Alisae]

Mylo btw you're doing a great job already btw see
I'm actually already convinced you either shoot anyone but Mathdino!
You're very convincing

[Alisae]

But hammering an hour before F3 started would be bad play
and in fact, this is my first F3 in a long long time
I don't go to F3s anymore if anything I get shot before then

[Alisae]

Like I am somewhat hyped about being town in F3 but at the same time its really saddening that this just seems really easy.

BUT THIS CAN CHANGE!

[Alisae]

Ank you need to
> Describe why Mylo's play throughout the whole game is wolf indicative
> Give me some associations to work with
> Tell me why Mylo shoots Mathdino in F3
> Try to tell me why Mylo's SoD today is wolf indicative or faked.

[Alisae]

Have fun Ank

[Alisae]

Okay look I'm being a jerk, and I'm sry for that.
tbh this situation actually really sucks for you if you're town, I am going to read you and mylo and solve and stuff
Like I actually am going to put in the work and effort to try during F3

but one of my biggest concerns is I don't think Mylo shoots Mathdino and creates this F3, that's just way too risky for him.
I've said throughout most of the game that I TR you and would have probably thrown the game over that read, and I think its makes way more sense for you to shoot Mathdino here.

[Alisae]

Mylo I have the same expectation of you to try to sort and go through wolves ISOs to look for associations

[Alisae]

use multi iso, it'll help you out a lot.

[Alisae]

it won't be able to help you with Bu + Brass + Sparkles + NSG + Ank + LUV

But you can do NSG + LUV + Ank
Brass + Bu + Sparkles
LUV + Ank + Brass

I think that covers relevant bases

[Alisae]

Okay look I'm being a jerk, and I'm sry for that.
tbh this situation actually really sucks for you if you're town, I am going to read you and mylo and solve and stuff
Like I actually am going to put in the work and effort to try during F3

but one of my biggest concerns is I don't think Mylo shoots Mathdino and creates this F3, that's just way too risky for him.
I've said throughout most of the game that I TR you and would have probably thrown the game over that read, and I think its makes way more sense for you to shoot Mathdino here.

Well... Here's the thing: I wouldn't take you + Math into 5p in the first place. Math was never townreading me for my slot, which would be dangerous, but you are also the most likely to catch me in general because you have more game experience with me than anyone else in the playerlist. I would've killed you far before now and taken SS or Kmd into LyLo depending on what their reads are before that.

Essentially, I'm not a very good scum, but I plan my kills very well to serve whatever agenda I have in mind. I don't see what agenda I would have that would have every kill after I replaced in, especially with a brass-partner.

I don’t remember you as well as you think I do.

[Alisae]

I do plan on verifying the selfmeta at some point btw

[Alisae]

OH GOD I'M IN F3

[Alisae]

ok I'm ready to drop a hammer

[Alisae]

I'm joking I would like Mylo to continue up his posting because he said he would and I am holding him too that.

[Alisae]

I'm actually having a hard time trying to find your wolfgames Ank.

[Alisae]

do it tonight or u die

[Alisae]

you hear that
you will DIE

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

Yo I got some bad news for one of you two.

[Alisae]

I think I wanted to hammer Ank based on their progression on Brass, Bu not bussing, a theory I have that NSG lowposts and would flake out of a wolfgame, Ank being more prepared for this F3, and Mylo's posts D4 and onward just seeming really towny.
But I didn't want to throw the game because I doubted math's hard TR on NSG and GC's mylo read. Plus if this IS an f3 that Mylo brings Ank and me too, its 100% because Mylo thinks he can use the hammer as a point of attac and hopes I'd buy that, so instead I hammered Mylo. sorry if you were town

[Alisae]

Ank you WERE town right?

[Alisae]

Because here are the exact points I had drafted up in my mind. I pre-wrote it but then just decided to hammer.

A. I feel like Bu decided that he wasn't going to bus. Like his votes were only on town and his FoSes that flipped were only on town.
B. 1094, 1113, 1116 feels kinda like bussing where as a lot of what Brass said about Ank feels like a wolf TRing their buddy and 1354 feels like a wolf trying to delay they're buddies' flip, like Ank's progression on Brass could easily come from a wolf (out a wolfread and try to work up to a TR) and by the time Brass hammered and started lolcatting Ank basically gave into the Brass being a wolf because thats the smart thing to do there.
C. I feel like NSG lowposts in wolfgames and flakes. Just a hunch.
D.

Double flake scumtell reeeeeee

E. I feel like Ank was more prepared for this F3 then Mylo was by far and if anyone feels like they don't have an agenda right now its Mylo.
F. I am kind of feeling like Mylo's D4 posts are towny to me? Specificly 1988 though 1990 sounds wolfy. 1991 then seems towny lol.

[Alisae]

Like I just know I've been kind of playing badly as of lately so I just decided to trust Mathdino for once.

[Alisae]

mylo i already hammered u

[Alisae]

cuz I trusted Mathdino's Hard TR on NSG

[Alisae]

also I thought Brass was bussing you

[Alisae]

SHIT
I HAMMERED WRONG
WTF

[Alisae]

I'M NOT GETTING TROLLED HERE RIGHT.

[Alisae]

Mylo, don't you dare be trolling me.

[Alisae]

oh wait
I'm the one trolling you
kappa keppo

[Alisae]

I never hammered

[Alisae]

lmfao I got bored so I figured I would troll for a bit tbh while putting my concerns in thread plus if you actually did something that could give me more to work with,

[Alisae]

I really didn't think I would get anything USEFUL out of that.

[Alisae]

Welp I'ma sleep on that.

[Alisae]

Ankamius I see you posting elsewhere checkin for a bit and talk to me about mylo’s stuff on the last page zzz

[Alisae]

Oh fuck it
VOTE: Ank
that is a REAL hammer.

[Alisae]

With all of my prior concerns I stated earlier plus mylo’s recent posting, I have a really hard time believing its faked and if he faked that then good fucking job. Like, thats exactly how I would react if I was town to the T.
Plus I don’t agree with him starting the whole day with the dumbtell that doesn’t seem like a natural push to me.

[Alisae]

And like sure you could say that he faked it but like, I expect town to react that way all of the time as well. And even then he did it post by post by post on how I would do it, it was really convincing

[Alisae]

ok good cause after those chain of posts I was starting to get paranoid about being wrong.

[Alisae]

The factional private topics shall be made public in 48 hours unless a faction member objects (including anyone who was part of the faction but then replaced out.)
The dead thread shall be made public in 48 hours.

ur good to go

[Alisae]

I was a bit upset I spent so much time on that case and lost to that but there's really no way to see if other than my own error. I don't think Mylo would have reacted the way he did if I had called out the gambit earlier.

tbf, I was going to hammer you regardless.
I did it because it was a low effort rxn test.

[Alisae]

If anything it was an answer check.

[Alisae]

Like, don’t feel bad that you lost to that or didn’t shut it down right away.
I felt like your progression on Brass was probably more indicative of being wolfbuddies, and I don’t think wolf!Brass selfhammers if mylo is his scumbuddy, because if Brass felt good enough to selfhammer then I felt like he was pretty confident that his scumbuddy was going to win the game.

[Alisae]

I was a bit upset I spent so much time on that case and lost to that but there's really no way to see if other than my own error. I don't think Mylo would have reacted the way he did if I had called out the gambit earlier.

you actually calling out the gambit would have earned a hammer because that wouldn’t be a town reaction

[Alisae]

Like think about it.
How do you react as that as town?
Why would you call that out

as town

?
If it’ll make the kingmaker in F3 see that you’re town, then you do it, no matter how fake it is.
Basically mylo’s reaction was NAI except what made it alignment indicative is the fact that it was extremely believable.

[Alisae]

i would call it out if i thought my opponent in F3 was extremely good at AtE or mimicking a town tone

fair

[Alisae]

Mathdino you were kinda terrible this game I feel

You were lynched Mathdino was shot-
Why do I even try anymore.

[Alisae]

can't hear you over having lynched scum twice and getting NK'd because scum knew i'd choose correctly in lylo

You say this, but I distinctly remember there being a voice telling Alisae to lynch Myloninja while I was reading the dead thread.

It was my voice

no the voice in my head was "But if I'm wrong Mathdino is going to destroy me postgame for not trusting his NSG TR"

[Alisae]

Hence why I needed an answer check.

[Alisae]

Vote Count 2.Final

Votee	Voters
Gamma Emerald (6)	Ankamius (1017), Mathdino (1153), Green Crayons (1231), Myloninja13 (1316), brassherald (1323), Kmd4390 (1342)
brassherald (2)	verydark (1121), Gamma Emerald (1298)
Myloninja13 (1)	davesaz (948)

Not voting:

GuiltyLion, Something_Smart

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch. Gamma Emerald has been hammered.

both scum were on my wagon because they love me

We do love you, Gamma.

Yeah wolves tend to love
A. Townies who are terrible at the game
B. Mislynch bait

[Alisae]

Oh, I was trying to be nice, Alisae.

And I hate Gamma.

[Alisae]

B. you're being petty because you got mislynched and i argued that you didn't deserve to win Three In One because you failed to lynch scum

[Alisae]

and as always thanks to Aster for modding a very smoothly run game. sorry about using your color that one time

Few suggestions for Aster cuz the modding was the only reason why I replaced in

A. Just handle the accelerated nights better.
B. Waiting for the dead PT is annoying no one makes you wait for the Dead PT.
C. This

Vote Count 1.0

Votee	Voters
verydark (4)	Kmd4390 (22), GuiltyLion (40), Mathdino (41), davesaz (47)
Mathdino (2)	Sando (10), Agent Sparkles (16)
popsofctown (2)	BuJaber (30), Gamma Emerald (35)
Agent Sparkles (1)	verydark (6)
Gamma Emerald (1)	popsofctown (49)
GuiltyLion (1)	northsidegal (8)

Not voting:

Kop, Myloninja13

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Can be changed to this

Vote Count 1.0

Votee	Voters
verydark (4)	Kmd4390 (22), GuiltyLion (40), Mathdino (41), davesaz (47)
Mathdino (2)	Sando (10), Agent Sparkles (16)
popsofctown (2)	BuJaber (30), Gamma Emerald (35)
Agent Sparkles (1)	verydark (6)
Gamma Emerald (1)	popsofctown (49)
GuiltyLion (1)	northsidegal (8)
|||||||	-------
Not Voting	Kop, Myloninja13
Day ends at Deadline. With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[Alisae]

Like the only people you're making wait for the dead PT is Me, Mylo, and Ank.
Everyone else probably already has it and I want to read it.
Factional PTs I personally disagree with but I get it and I know some mods do that.

[Alisae]

Otherwise really well modded I hope you mod some more stuff here!