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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:35 am

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VOTE: cowbells
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:38 am

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can we not play reindeer game kthnx
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 22, scum reading wrote:
In post 19, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 12, scum reading wrote:Hello there, so many new faces in here, let’s see...

VOTE: Shoshin

(This is how I make new friends by the way)
Am I a new face to u
I don’t know anybody in here :(
why did you not start in newbie forums? its a good place to pick up the site meta.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 18, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 16, Fuscosco wrote:can we not play reindeer game kthnx
Hm?
nothing. Certainly not irritation at the games people play in the opening phases of a game.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:50 am

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:o you know me.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:58 am

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Indeed. What are you waiting for RC? its not a foreword if everyone else already has a turn.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:07 pm

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I happen to agree w/rc. its way cocky.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 38, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Fuscosco why does early-game bother you?

Pedit2: spciy
Its irksome nonsense. Its necessary nonsense, but its easy to hide in the turmoil of it. Besides, when 4 people of 11 are here and fill out the first 3 pages I don't want to read it ever again. Makes rereads a pain.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:26 pm

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Do talk about volxen, RC.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:27 pm

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Like, is this performance normal for his, in regards to strength and confidence?
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Post Post #69 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:27 pm

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In post 66, scum reading wrote:lease no hammer on this
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Post Post #87 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:36 pm

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Thats actually a fair vote, atp

VOTE: volxen
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Post Post #88 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 86, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do u object on principle or do you think he has wolf equity
I think its a weak showing from volx.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:38 pm

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and that means I cant pursue weak reads?
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Post Post #102 (isolation #14) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:45 pm

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Bussing is the tits. I've absolutely bused people to death - and won.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #15) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:50 pm

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:( maybe Im just old . . .
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Post Post #129 (isolation #16) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:58 pm

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Why are we spatting over it then
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Post Post #130 (isolation #17) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:58 pm

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This is really far to go for a rvs wagon.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #18) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:00 pm

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The hallmark of rvs is wagons based on nothing. Defending it is . . . counterproductive?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #19) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:20 pm

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RC is so good at scum he can have issues appearing town.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #20) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:21 pm

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And has a nasty mean streak about him on occasion.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #21) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:22 pm

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Id like to hear from the rest of town, but from the above I feel I have a decent idea where I want to go.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #22) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:38 pm

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A clear readslist wouldn't hurt.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #23) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:39 pm

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Don' forget to leave out the rainbow colors, unspoilered 3 paragraph descriptions, and purely meta based reads.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #24) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 196, Fuscosco wrote:A clear readslist wouldn't hurt.
In post 199, Fuscosco wrote:Don' forget to leave out the rainbow colors, unspoilered 3 paragraph descriptions, and purely meta based reads.
@DT



And auro too, since its the wagon of the week.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 204, Clemency wrote:guys i hurt my wrist today help
I use speech to text apps for longer forum posts I make on-the-phone.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #26) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:31 pm

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I do not know why you continue this. You arent in the hot seat, and its gone past the point where we need it. We need others to input, and the more i think about it the more I could let auro swing.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #27) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:36 pm

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Time. We're losing the interest of the town for personal squabbling.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #28) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:37 pm

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The town needs to start to scumhunt, and now has to sift through this extra material. We're burying the nuggets of info.

And padding the game. with walls.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #29) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:38 pm

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apathy, scum theatre, dragging personal relationships out into the public square, what good does many pages of this do?
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Post Post #264 (isolation #30) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:38 pm

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I townread you.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #31) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:43 pm

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In post 258, Auro wrote:"Let Auro swing" huh?
Ive never been shy about a D1 infolynch.
Or a nullscum lynch.
Or just throwing around pressure.


I have to read this all tomorrow and sort it out. I stopped reading most of RC/Auro/DT for the night.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #32) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 379, RadiantCowbells wrote:toying with volxen scum, he seems less invested in this game than I would expect him to be and there's not really any smoking guns. still think the reasons given to scumread him were trash.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 410, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm done sorry this game is unpleasant for my sanity.

VOTE: RC
VOTE: RadCow
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Post Post #420 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:33 am

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fuck that noise rc
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Post Post #422 (isolation #35) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:33 am

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Replace out like a man. or at least like a veteran townie would
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Post Post #429 (isolation #36) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:36 am

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I'm not playing the rc meta game. I've been out a few years and I have no clue how RC has developed.

But Im willing to fry mu null read who just AtEd
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Post Post #438 (isolation #37) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:43 am

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is rc l-1?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:47 am

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:/

VOTE: unvote
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Post Post #453 (isolation #39) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:54 am

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:|

im not convinced, but Im still mobile and cant properly take notes
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #40) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:04 am

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Im at work, plan to katchsup this afternoon
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #41) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:29 am

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ewww I just did an egosearch here.

no love for the guy who's played 100+ games on site.

I'm in jury duty today, and I played Europa all day after work yesterday. Ottoman has been my (pope) stallwart ally against the austrian scumlords.
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Post Post #1371 (isolation #42) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:31 am

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please no end day, i need to catchup.

Ill be posting a few walls of opinion, taken as I read. but not while playing IRL mafia here.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #43) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:33 am

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Also,
@MOD: I should not have been prodded. Please take the appropriate actions to restore me to your good graces :p
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #44) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:24 am

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In post 175, Fuscosco wrote:Id like to hear from the rest of town, but from the above I feel I have a decent idea where I want to go.
In post 176, ejjinami wrote:
Vote Count 1.4
Auro:
(3) Shoshin, volxen, scum reading
volxen:
(2) DoubtingThomas, Fuscosco
DoubtingThomas:
(2) Auro, RadiantCowbells
scum reading:
(1) Irrelephant11


Not Voting:
Demonlord, ‪GrandWazoo‬‬‬‬, Clemenc‬y

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-12 18:02:08)
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #45) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:24 am

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opps, was testing out q+ to see if it's still ass
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:34 am

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okay. so Ill do iso whilst waiting.

Clem's up first.




mostly short shitposts, plays kinda similar to me. Scum me would try to do townme but jump on a weak player or setup an easy tunnel to generate content. Looks like clem has a hardon or his vanity wagon rc. Looks like scummy isn't offnthe table.
In post 178, Clemency wrote:VOTE: auroL-2
because pressure is pressure even if i say it out loud
In post 366, Clemency wrote:active lurking is what i do as town
This vote is light red on its own.
and self awareness of meta is not good. it's also low effort defense and setting up shit play for later on.

lean nullscum for lack of good evidence, but I'm advocating his head for lylo rn.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #47) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:41 am

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In post 58, volxen wrote:@RadiantCowbells I hope you rolled town for a change, because you've always rolled scum against me in our previous games together.
holy shit volx can be town for d1

newbishly tryhard and earnest. in a non-insulting way. I like it, pls no hate for my concise choice of words, he is straight out.


if you've spent any significant time playing as an SC or IC in newbies you'll see it......
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #48) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:44 am

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demon is blank. lean slight green for braise and syntax. but def a lurker and an issue.
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:57 am

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In post 66, scum reading wrote:Auro stoped posting at a convenient time for him, I’ll place my vote on him. I’ll go to sleep and be back tomorrow, please no hammer on this, I want to read what he posts when I wake up

VOTE: Auro
In post 338, scum reading wrote:
In post 332, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not lynching you today

If I have my way we kill

VOTE: Clemency
I think that “swinging at random” was an off-hand remark that swept you off your ground, Clemency’s a funny person, I actually laughed when I read what he posted, I didn’t take it as a reason to back his vote up
ugh, scum reading is too caught up in syntax. there's a time and place for them, and its early early game and d2-3. imo.

otherwise, started off null and suspicious for amount of non-info im his posts and by the time I got to I felt he was townish. A modest TR, but, since people dislike hearing 'that might change', town for the day.
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1384, Shoshin wrote:You need to step it up if you're town, Fusco.
excuse me I need to do no such thing. Nor can you ask me to via mobile.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:51 am

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Esp since I could just easily lurk my way into d3.
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Post Post #1388 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:51 am

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I can get off most the uses of my power before then :shifty:
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:00 am

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I just got back and probs will do some reading, this time in chronological order. Not looking foreward to the RC wall, may just laze back to iso.
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:01 am

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I did the skimpiest ones one a phone, wasnt too bad.
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:38 am

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Or you sound overbearing and overcompensating.
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:38 am

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I mean, totally acting like a dick will get me to come play
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 99, Fuscosco wrote:Starting from , when I went mobile . . .

Im going to be skimpy on the bits here, but you know, feel free to take offense.




DT flipping his shit cant mean they are scum, can it? I mean, scum could do it, ill have to read up into it.

- Going off the deep end just cant be intentional. And I know it takes 2, but I think that RC isnt the one who started it. Plus I know how he is, so . . . I know that what he did was nai, at least without looking more closely at it.
In post 194, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 192, RadiantCowbells wrote:DT is wolf
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RC can at times be quite clairvoyant.
And at other times will gamethrow on a whim.

[post=206]206 from clem[post] is actually a good vote. On RC.

Im not reading rc v dt. its dumb, and its annoying, and peppered with both loose ms lexicon and emotions.
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:18 pm

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shhh now. Im trying to read and think and drink beer and listen to a podcast and plan my day tomorrow and think about dinner.

And thinking about how I paid 7$ for 2 slices of bread, 4 strips of roast beef, some onions, some cheese, and some oil.
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:21 pm

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Wagon placement is funny, because I intentionally try to be where people expect scum to be. ssshussssh
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:21 pm

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Every time I preview Im greeted by a seal.
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 253, Auro wrote: No - but a town reaction would be to acknowledge the new information, and attempt to re-evaluate. It would've been fine to still have an early scumread given that.
Keeping note of auro in this -is he like this normally?- and this is rhetorical, mostly what I look for when I play. Dont answer.
In post 245, Auro wrote:
In post 203, Fuscosco wrote:And auro too, since its the wagon of the week
I've been pretty straightforward with my reads so far. Why would a readslist, which basically contains the same information, help you sort me further?
To go back to this, I don't need to. And I don't on principal, usually. I keep my cards closer to my chest, and poke and prod where I may. Im only doing it now because I think I may not be the most motivated, and since I dont have my giant wave of meta backing me I have to prooffer
something
or face rope in a few days.

But to answer why you should: A gesture of capitulation will show an earnest attempt to play, and gauge your level of confidence/competence. It also forces you to remember your positions. Maybe you lied before and didn't keep a straight story?


In post 262, DoubtingThomas wrote:what's your read list, fus? it's time you share yours
why is it? This is a 'no u' response to something. its lightly green in a vacuum.


he seems like he's noticing things and then superficially restating them. Its like reading the book of job and then talking about Job instead of gods relationship and obligation to man. Or anything a little more abstract than the actual story. maybe its a context thing, but I remember my initial reaction was to ick at it.

irrephant seems towny enough, I don't Image
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Image like you are town, but I can Imagesee it.


seems uninterested. I think I heard rc say he is replacing? I tend to think rolefishers who troll are looking for power/scum roles.
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #62) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 1426, RadiantCowbells wrote:Let's throw in something totally different.

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Post Post #1430 (isolation #63) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:13 pm

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Nothing for a bit . . .
In post 391, Shoshin wrote:I think you're letting Irrel off too easy for scumreading me when he should know better. I understand why RC would get paranoid but Irrel should know that my play here wasn't anything like what he saw as scum.
ewwww. such balls.
In post 392, Shoshin wrote:Clemency is bad, agreed. DT, not sure. Wazoo, I got a bad vibe from initially but something he said later feels town to me.
This is about where I sit on these three at this post in time.

In post 455, scum reading wrote:As for his L-2 on you, despite being weird about it, he stated it would be for pressuring. I’m fine with that, I believe getting information on you early on is good, because we can confirm both you and Volxen as town or one of you as scum, etc, since you guys know each other the most. If you guys were both scum and confirming each other as town, that would be unfortunate, that’s a relative low probability as well though.
What? how does a single vote and then a player getting irritated lessen the liklihood of SvS? Especially since they both havent explicitly went toe to toe. Their interactions seem like a sideshow.

This right here is what we call a possible association. If scumRead or one of the two flip red we take this post into context of that.

In post 465, Shoshin wrote:If RC's town, this game's solved, though. That wagon on him was terrible, especially on the part of DT, Clemency, and Fusco.
hate to say it, but I tend to townread cocky stuff like this. it obviously wasnt given much thought, because its just a what-if statement; a bunch of fantasy rolled into a fallacy and tucked under a desperate appeal for approval, but it is kind of towny in its thought.
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 489, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shoshin is scum

I have nothing further to say until I'm hammered.
This is such a crappy thing to do. I hate it and want to policy it pretty badly.

its not okay. its trashy.



everyone is so ablative in this game. its just toxic and i hate it.


In post 507, Shoshin wrote:RC's the worst possible lynch on D1 in this setup.
agreed.

As of this post, DT is
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In post 512, Shoshin wrote:I don't see him trying to solve anything.
yes. Actually, I think im more interested in townhunting and sorting Gabzoo, given the gamestate as of the date I write this.

In post 548, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Shoshin
Voting you just became more meaningful than self voting congratulations
fuck you rc.
This irritates me.
In post 612, Shoshin wrote:And that awkward interaction with Clemency that felt like scum/scum.
hmmmmm?

what interaction?

-Also you saying you scumread rc for their push on you is eye-rollingly bad. From a personal level, seeming that you know rc, in what world would this help the game to tell them that they are bad evil scumman? Youve revved him up even more.-
In post 626, RadiantCowbells wrote:Could also do demonlord
no. This is bad for reasons laid out by Shoshin already.

atp in waiting for more input from gazoo and clem and demon.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:38 pm

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Okay, off cuff here, at post


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Post Post #1433 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:39 pm

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RC is about the null nulltown line. Under that and Im strictly in greyland or worse.
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:40 pm

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Id like to read the last 10 or so pages, but im kind of apathetic here. I wont vote to end the day until Im happy Ive made the right associations.
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:41 pm

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D1 is about catching associations and building framework to catch people in lies.
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #69) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:55 pm

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he's looking too hard at small things, I feel.

In post 50, volxen wrote:VOTE: Auro
Let me guess, you rolled scum like you do in 95%+ plus of your games?
In post 62, volxen wrote: I've literally been wanting to play a game with town!you for like
months
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- New to site: who doesnt have an alt.
- happy to see rc :doc:
- Uses words like literally in the casual sense.

A well-to-do player who has [an undisclosed level of experience at mafia] limited onsite experience.

In post 376, volxen wrote: So, you took my comment about Auro rolling scum 95%+ of the time at literal face value? Come on, I didn't literally mean that he rolls scum that often... no one rolls scum that often. It's an inside joke between Auro and I

[redacted]

In any case, you are saying you also voted for Auro to see if he would react as scum or town. Do you feel you accomplished that goal?
In post 439, volxen wrote: Why would you even talk about the fact that you are at L-1 when you are self-voting? You wouldn't be at L-1 if you weren't self-voting. And I'm not trying to get you to redact your townread, I want to understand why you are townreading him.
Obviously he wouldnt be at l-1. pointing it out feels very new-ish to the game. his focus is on combing the small details instead of directly sorting. Which isn't bad, per se, but it is a symptom on being newer to the game.

In post 976, volxen wrote: By the way, what are your thoughts on scum reading? I disagree with RC on him being "locktown". I still think it was shady how he followed me onto your wagon just because I said "Auro rolls scum 95%+ of the time", and I find his reasoning that he wanted to "pressure" you suspect.
This genuinely smells of engaging in the game, in a way that helps town. New or not, I like it.

In post 1354, volxen wrote: I thought the way you jumped on me and started pushing me for making comments like "Auro rolls scum 95%+ of the time" and "I've been wanting to play with town!RC for months" was suspect, especially how you kept double downing on this push even as Auro repeatedly told you that I've made posts like that as town before. I'm not suggesting you should have been townreading me over those posts, but I do have my doubts that town!you would feel that strongly that those posts were scum-indicative. I'm scumreading you at the moment.

That being said, I think the way Fuscosco followed you onto my wagon was even worse than your initial push on me.

Can you explain why Auro is your top townread?
This too. And again, Im pointing out his newishness, because framing his motivations is as or more important than his content. I firmly believe, as a tangent, that the reasons for doing something tell us a lot more than the content or context in which it occurs.

Its new town hunting, getting nervous at an attempt to pile on pressure via quickwagons -which are/were commonplace onsite-, and its consistent with the rest of the profile, most importantly.
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #70) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:13 pm

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nah. its about catching the sneaky snek scum who can escape your grasp if you dont peg them down from d1 on.

Im used to nacho, jingle, TSO. Hell, nacho and tso were my first two ICs.
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #71) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:14 pm

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My first two scumgames were with them as buddies and winning.
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #72) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:37 pm

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okay. I guess I could check for associations between the proposed scumteams, but enh.

Gazoo seems pretty good. Well, any objections to ending the day?
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #73) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:38 pm

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If we split into two games, and the lynchees get stumped, then we need to establish that we won't lynch the low effort players off rip. Thats my grip rn.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #74) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:40 pm

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nvm. this is nightless 3way gladiator game.
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #75) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:43 pm

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On even-numbered Days, a nomination mechanic applies to the lynch. At the start of the Day, the mafia secretly select three players of their choice (which can be of any alignment, Town or Mafia) to be available to be lynched
This means that we could end up with only half our usual lynches.

VOTE: gazoo
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:43 pm

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:\
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #77) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:46 pm

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:|
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #78) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:47 pm

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Day 2: 2slow2wifom
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #79) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:12 am

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rc wasn't nominated because she was hella obviously town after that place out. That slot IC now, afaic.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #80) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:12 am

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In post 1511, scum reading wrote:With shoshin being active and her being an asset to town up to this point, I’d go for a volxen lynch. Any thoughts on this?
yes, actually. but more on that later.
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #81) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:46 am

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VOTE: vedith
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:36 am

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volx is the weakest player in that pool. :|

Its a shit strat to gladiate yourself against a better performance, regardless of alignment.
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #83) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:36 am

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we aren't rioing volx, thats lazy and he and rcslot are my townbloc
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #84) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:37 am

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irre we can wait for you! GL brother
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #85) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:42 am

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i guess. but it's absolutely suboptimal imo. and wifomy as hell.
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Post Post #1639 (isolation #86) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:26 am

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hmmm vedith being proactive? hmmm what's happened in a year
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #87) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:30 am

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YoY
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Post Post #1644 (isolation #88) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:38 am

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ftmp, i think we should murk one. My gut wants to do shosin, but my notes suggest irre isa better choice. have to reconsider and review my notes. without a proper nk to consider I think we should not analyze the groups chosen by scum.
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #89) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:44 am

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Hmmm, come to think of it; what happened to the unholy amount of distrust volx had for me?
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #90) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:40 am

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Again, I think that analysing the nk picks ala 'possible alignment combos' is bad. Lets lynch the scummiest and/or the infolynch and/or the most dangerous. Shoshin is right.
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Post Post #1676 (isolation #91) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:49 am

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:| and I frankly find that suspicious.

Why you? Are you dangerous?
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #92) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:50 am

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The insistence that you are somehow . . . leading the town? is odd. its boldfaced and its snowflakely and irrational. And it, as a fallacy, could be used by a scumman to explain other fallacies away
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Post Post #1678 (isolation #93) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:51 am

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Kneejerk, I distrust that insistence. Have some humility.
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #94) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:03 am

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Think of today as 'Night 01 Night Kill Day'.
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #95) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:03 am

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And think if your placement as 'filling a space'
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #96) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:05 am

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Please, lets pretend you are town and you are put on that list just to keep people from killing a third, undesirable option. Then what volx? Pretend you arent special. When is scum that wants to kill sho/irre?


Like this is why I said 'don't analyse the list composition'.
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #97) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:12 pm

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In post 1747, DoubtingThomas wrote:SR is locktown?

did the meaning of lock town change or something?
I think shoshin may be trying to drop associations for after their rope?

It seems really poor.
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #98) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

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The analysis that my town reads are in the pool of nks should not be surprising. Im fairly sure others expressed the same general feelings too. They may not have put it down so succinctly, but then why would they when you guys arent doing readlists?
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #99) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

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Who is tring auro and why again?
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #100) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:04 am

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volx, because i think you are town, lemme try to talk you through this.

The list I made is publicly available.
The list I made is of town -> scum.
Scumteam has a wincon to kill town.
Analysing the nk in this particular case is wifomy. Its probs the reason the game was invented.
Why would scumlord fusco list his wishlist at all? I was under no pressure to and I would have lied.
I've already told you all how clem and I seem to play alike. Earnest isnt my style.
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #101) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:05 am

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possible, certainly. shoshin and irre have a good chemistry together for sure.

scum volx's big thing would be trying to generate that much content. I'd expect a some of it to be tunnels and weak logic.
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #102) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:06 am

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in fact, Id say that shosin and irre, while collaborating, have distanced themselves from each other quite well.

not an indictment [yet] . . . just noting.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #103) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:15 am

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sure. Im not scum reading you. But it'd be a cool move on your part
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Post Post #1793 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:15 am

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It'd be like that time I gladiated my P for the win.
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:17 am

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Actually, vedith should contribute. A good vedith read is a slow burn read.
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Post Post #1817 (isolation #106) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 1813, Vedith wrote:
In post 1810, Shoshin wrote:The idea of killing the stronger townie instead of the stronger scum among a group of three likely townies doesn't make any sense by the way.
:up:
this is actually a good point on shosin and vedi.


who is stronger scum? And ftm, who would you least like to have in a lylo?
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:36 am

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contextless self vote does look bad. idk vedi, though. failed self hammer seems reachy.

I don't see volx self voting for the ate though . . .
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:38 am

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shoshin, what's the deal w/your vote?
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #109) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:40 am

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I think we should hammer. volx made his points, and frankly he's already finger-gunned me so I have no qualms about voting him now to get a flip. let's continue the game. not like one if us will die tonight
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #110) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:30 am

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kinda tbh.


i feel like we're being led on. hopefully not into something
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #111) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:21 pm

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yea, soshe.

Umm volx consider how annoying your slot is to me. if i did get off my ass and make a push on
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #112) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:23 pm

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Like lol everyone talks a good game about 'town only should want to catch scum' but there is so much more to mafia than blind obedience to a wincon. you have to consider if a risk is worth it.

ex: is leaving volx alive worth the enjoyment of the game and chance he'll be around in lylo to fuck it up?
A:
No, not really.
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #113) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:24 pm

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Also, lol Im more than happy to be an instructor at the school of hard knocks. IMA LEARN YOU BOI
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #114) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 pm

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And before I hear it, A Push is me shoving you and seeing where you rattle.

i.e. what your fallacies are and what you need to work on. push isn't being used in the traditional MS sense.
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #115) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:13 pm

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In post 2058, volxen wrote:@Fuscosco, let's assume for a moment that all of {Shoshin, Irrelephant, Volxen} are town, which I think is entirely possible considering I have Irrelephant as locktown, and he is "94% confident" that Shoshin is town. Aside from myself, Shoshin is hard scumreading you. Why do you assume you will be around in lylo? Regardless of who is nightkilled today, your slot is going to be under a whole lot of scrutiny on day 3, because you have objectively done a number of scummy things in this game.
why am i around lylo?

because, town or scum, Im that good.
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #116) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm

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i mean, an easy target? yes.

an easy lynch? no.

Hunt off me, hunt with me.
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Post Post #2070 (isolation #117) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:16 pm

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but dont mind me, im a drinky snek rn.
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Post Post #2071 (isolation #118) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:16 pm

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Scum Reading is scum. We all know this.
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #119) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:17 pm

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I think the only people who could be scum in today's lynch is shoshin and volx, and then not really.
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #120) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:18 pm

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In post 2074, Vedith wrote:
In post 2059, volxen wrote:@Vedith, I still don't understand why you are actually scumreading me.
I can't remember.
you arent being super duper town. Im only getting a light green from you for this one day.
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #121) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:19 pm

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In post 2075, volxen wrote:
In post 2073, Fuscosco wrote:I think the only people who could be scum in today's lynch is shoshin and volx, and then not really.
And who do you think is more likely to be scum between Shoshin and I?
shos.
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Post Post #2079 (isolation #122) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:20 pm

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but I mean like, 5 or 6 percent, whats more likely?

Also if I dont make up my mind I cant make pushes on both and see what falls out....
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #123) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 pm

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lol after so many games, like 100+ onsite?

yes, I think I can fill in the void. Optimal play isnt my goal. and besides, consider the politics. Like, serious, consider game of thrones, which I dont watch. See how they are supposed to position themselves.

Yes. I would have used your lynch and shoshins reaction to my offer to hunt. You were used as bait to see if anyone would jump on you.
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #124) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 pm

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lol.
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #125) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:29 pm

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lol.
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #126) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:44 pm

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who is the optimal rope today, from your pov? Doesnt matter why, lets do it; maybe.
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #127) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:44 pm

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or swap the semi and full colon.
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #128) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:06 pm

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VOTE: Shos[/s]

gp,,e ne su[er oissed is RC tirns our to bee town.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #129) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:06 pm

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erm not town.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #130) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:07 pm

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Im cool w/the scumreads on me. lets fdance devils.
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #131) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:08 pm

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VOTE: shoshin
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #132) » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:44 pm

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ugh at least we're moving, but seriously did you guys manage a counterwagon when there's 3 people to choose from? like almost everyone has implicitly stated that they think 2 of the three choices are obvtown . . . :roll:
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Post Post #2127 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:36 am

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okay. thats fair. we'll take a note and dually report that its popular majority to lynch, not absolute...
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Post Post #2128 (isolation #134) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:37 am

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I'm frankly much more likely to sus a player who quietly votes or doesnt than one who is upfront and vocal
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #135) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:49 am

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In post 2129, scum reading wrote:
In post 2128, Fuscosco wrote:I'm frankly much more likely to sus a player who quietly votes or doesnt than one who is upfront and vocal
So why are you on Shoshin?
if they're all town then Id rather kill the one most likely to overthink it. thats volx.


if you'll want to hang shos i can, id be okay roping for an outside scum. As long as we can get some information from the votes..
like who advocates it and et al.
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #136) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:50 am

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booooooo

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Post Post #2147 (isolation #137) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:26 am

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Somebody has to die. atp youre chok full of associations and interactions. irre would make sense if we thought he could flip scum.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #138) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:26 am

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Are you saying he may?
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #139) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:18 am

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I never called him this?
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #140) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:19 am

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I will tell you what though. I have to reread some of the game atsomepoint. Ill see if I dont see some scum mot somewhere? cuz thats what we should be looking for.
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #141) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:20 am

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hmmm 19 hours.
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #142) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:29 am

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If he is scum, its Irre/ScumRead/[3rd party who isnt obivous rn]
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #143) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:31 am

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Scum wouldnt put two of themselves against any one of these, I feel. its super wifomy and we'd have all game to suspect them.

I dont trust vedi to produce a cohesive and detailed list of why 'volx is scum'
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #144) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 2158, Auro wrote:Fuscosco, I'm asking why you think Shoshin is scum.
Your argument is that she's the best "information lynch", if I read right.
I want to know the "associations and interactions" you're speaking of.
relax. youre fighting for them harder than they are themselves.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #145) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:33 am

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I dont see volx as scum. I continue to see misguided newish town here.
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #146) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:35 am

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And I dont see shoshin as scum. Theyve dialed way back today, but in a good way.
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Post Post #2166 (isolation #147) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:35 am

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VOTE: irrel
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Post Post #2167 (isolation #148) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:36 am

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From what Ive read this is where to go, and rereading more on SRs would give me scum number 3
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Post Post #2168 (isolation #149) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 am

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Sure, youve convinced me. I mean if one has to die, Im comfortable with this as well.
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Post Post #2170 (isolation #150) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 am

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In post 2164, Auro wrote:
In post 2162, Fuscosco wrote:I dont see volx as scum. I continue to see misguided newish town here.
Volxen isn't new, but I know the player very well and he's very likely town.
His style speaks for itself. He may not be new, but his style is one often used by new people. Its not denigrating.
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #151) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:18 am

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volx def switched gears today; its something to watch for later, not necessarily instalynch. consider that today is possibly a null day for town.

but, also consider that how we decide who to kill will affect is when we flip a scum
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #152) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:21 am

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smh
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #153) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:54 pm

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we can make a case for auro/shos
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #154) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 2239, scum reading wrote:Yeah, willing to take a 1v1, nothing to lose on my part. You’re either scum or you want to believe I’m scum and you hope I eventully flip scum so it’ll stroke your ego. You have scum reads amongst {Clem, Fus, DT}from me, irrelephant (who flipped town btw) and shoshin and you’re pushing the one who wasn’t scum read by anyone here.

Interested to hear why is your gut telling you I’m scum tho

VOTE: Vedith
Is this directed at me?
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #155) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:57 pm

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In post 2242, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2241, Fuscosco wrote:we can make a case for auro/shos
Was this intended for the scum PT?

Fun stuff.
considering you were on your fucking back and I,
I
spared you you could not say stupid shit
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #156) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:58 pm

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smh. lets start with my buddies shos
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #157) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:23 pm

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shrug, i mean maybe, but it's nice of you to show up after and hindsight around when its safe to
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #158) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:23 pm

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my reads stand as they did D1.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #159) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:38 pm

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okay. Youre welcome to contribute Im not sure which slot you are...


Before anyone gets roped though, we should be talking.
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #160) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 2232, Irrelephant11 wrote:This lynch was my call
you need to not self vote. Thats the straw that broke the back.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #161) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:41 pm

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Spoiler: final vc
In post 2233, ejjinami wrote:Image
Vote Count 2.17
Irrelephant11: (6) Shoshin, Irrelephant11, Auro, scum reading, Fuscosco, volxen
HAMMER!

Shoshin:
(3) DoubtingThomas, chennisden, Alonzo
Volxen:
(1) Vedith

Not Voting: ---


Majority has been reached.


Irrelephant11 has been lynched, they were a
Vanilla Townie!


Day 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2019-03-27 17:00:05).


You may lynch among all players on the playerlist.



That volx vote . . . Still think SR is the best way to go.

What are people's feels about auro?

~fixed the code,
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #162) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:42 pm

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Le Lul.
@mod:
MY BBCODE IS BUGGERED BY YOUR BBCODE. PLS HALP BY NICKING A BRACKET OFF THE FLIP SPOILER?

~done
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #163) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 2213, Shoshin wrote:Vedith's scum, Irrel.
I dont think so. Ill have to look at him, I guess, later, but iirc vedi is scum when he avoids content.
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #164) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:44 pm

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Vedith, can you please make a quick stab at a team?
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #165) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:24 pm

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Well, Ill be outi 5000 VOTE: Scum Reading
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Post Post #3451 (isolation #166) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:36 am

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gg.

I saw the moment the town made the right move. Its kind of satisfying to see

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