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Post Post #1353 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:34 pm

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good news
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:34 pm

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In post 1355, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1353, the worst wrote:good news
what is this news
i'm town
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:38 pm

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boooo
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:39 pm

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you scumposted a lot in your ISO any reason for that?
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 1359, Skygazer wrote:any reads
no
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:41 pm

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ok np
why did we lynch town then?
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:46 pm

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PenguinPower and the Lannisters are my honorary loltownreads
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:47 pm

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In post 1368, Skygazer wrote:yumeeee still feels scummy but that wagon was bleh
tw's predecessor's iso gave me some scum pings bc i reread that when he replaced in but eh i can read tw so am not too worried
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uhhhhhh
ok so as my good friend cheekyteeky once asked

skygazer whos scum
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:48 pm

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Slight auro pings from joff
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:49 pm

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oh yeah joff is like 100% auro
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1372, the worst wrote:
In post 1368, Skygazer wrote:yumeeee still feels scummy but that wagon was bleh
tw's predecessor's iso gave me some scum pings bc i reread that when he replaced in but eh i can read tw so am not too worried
red panda

uhhhhhh
ok so as my good friend cheekyteeky once asked

skygazer whos scum
probs those three tbh
you're wrong on me :)
you don't feel convinced on whorve4 y7mee34 is
idk who red panda is

talk me through some stuff?
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:52 pm

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Auro you said the game is solved fypov - give me a quick rundown?
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:55 pm

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grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 1389, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1387, the worst wrote:grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?
i mean - its hard for me to like think of an agenda rn besides pocketing/whatever but like just some of them seem like stretches imo/possibly tmi
what if I told you I don't see anything wolfy in those red panda posts without context :( :(
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Post Post #1399 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:06 pm

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can you try a bit harder to fix your reads? that + the fact you smell like a wolf and apparently lolhammered town is making it really easy to draw an easy conclusion and I feel like I'd rather spend more time and get a better read here
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:07 pm

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I'm not gonna ISO yumeko rn tho :/ throw me why you think they're wc7m + issues w wagon?
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Post Post #1404 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:11 pm

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who was a mislynch
unopposed wagons aren't always town, depends on gamestate/strength of scumteam/bus equity etc. etc. etc.

what pinged you as it being a mislynch?
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:13 pm

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hold up they got to 8 votes before something happened and a lynch could go through then after the other mechanic resolved they didn't have a wagon and everyone powerlynched a lynchbaity hydra
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:14 pm

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is.... that correct? I haven't read the setup I just don't like frozen phases being a thing
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:15 pm

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In post 1407, the worst wrote:hold up they got to 8 votes before something happened and a lynch could go through then after the other mechanic resolved they didn't have a wagon and everyone powerlynched a lynchbaity hydra
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:16 pm

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Nancy, get back in the hydra fam
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 1414, the worst wrote:Nancy, get back in the hydra fam
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:22 pm

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Skyg our engagement has been pretty superficial so far so to sum up where I'm going I think you're trying to deflect me with vague reads and vca theory/possibilities which I don't think you've actually read in the context of the gamestate because they seem like.... shallow and designed to reach a conclusion rather than intuitive and thought out

like I'm going "is this a towngazer read?" at each of your posts and I'm drawing blanks

if you're town and playing lynchbaity and not paying attention to the game mind turning up the gears a little? you look exactly like wolfgazer atm.
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:23 pm

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I'd say {Skyg, yumeko} has reasonable team equity but just a friendly reminder I've read nothing except the peak wagons and what's happened while I've been here
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:26 pm

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In post 1423, Skygazer wrote:so drunk me thinks there's almost def scum in [
lannisters/nancy
/tw/yumeko]
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:26 pm

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In post 1425, Inbred Lannisters wrote:@TW, What are your thoughts on the CheekyTeeky/Saudade/Mary slot so far?

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:56 pm

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@duppin don't worry I'm town
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Post Post #1461 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:57 pm

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In post 1430, Inbred Lannisters wrote:
In post 1428, the worst wrote:
In post 1425, Inbred Lannisters wrote:@TW, What are your thoughts on the CheekyTeeky/Saudade/Mary slot so far?

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)
who
I'm talking about Mary's slot; she was replaced by Saudade, who was then replaced by CheekyTeeky. Mary was someone we suspected a lot on day one.

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)
I have exaaactly no read there
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:34 pm

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why?
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:46 pm

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Should I already have a read on you?
I don't scumread Yumeko in isolation I scumread skygazer and dont think her wagon analysis disqualifies scum!Yumeko in the slightest. idek whwt yumeko"s avatar is rn
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:51 pm

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do you think she's town?
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Post Post #1485 (isolation #31) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:12 pm

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In post 1474, duppin wrote:
In post 1470, the worst wrote:do you think she's town?
I have had hear leaning town all game yes.
So could you please explain why you think her ISO is scummy?
it's not really time for that I'd rather fix my read if it's wrong -- can you throw me some posts you see coming from a town/sorty pov > wolf?

since its been all game without reference to her "acting wolfy" gambit pls
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #32) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:13 pm

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In post 1478, Inbred Lannisters wrote:Duppin, pull out the posts where you feel Skygazer was trying to sort people.
Now contrast that with, say, Newsroom.

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Post Post #1487 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:14 pm

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yeah Auro is doing the thing I intend to do I'mma coast this one
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #34) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:16 pm

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In post 1496, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1490, duppin wrote:
In post 1488, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1482, duppin wrote:I especially thought her opening was town and I really had trouble following the players finding it scummy.
Have you played with sky before?
No I have never played with her before, so I am definitely not in a position to comment on the meta reads
I think people familiar with sky would plausibly believe that entrance was scummy. Sky is a known shitposter not a tryhard. That entrance was a little tryhard. The thing that makes me pause though is that sky would know that looks scummy to people that know her so...?
Don't get me wrong sky can be sharp with her reads she just doesn't typically effort to make them imo.
basically reading skygazer 101 look for astute understated reads not an effort to be townread

this game her reads are 0% nuance and are heavily overstated for what they are and she's trying to be townread

it's wolfgazer. I'm gonna ISO her and see if she tryhardified while I lurked.
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:17 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 1562, Skygazer wrote:im not fun? ):
In post 1570, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1567, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1565, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1394, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1378, Skygazer wrote:@cheeky wait where have we played before again
Too many to be bothered digging :/
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&author_id=30424
newbie 1889
overkill 1 : firefly
i guesssssss their read on me could make sense ??
In post 1571, Skygazer wrote:im actually not SRing panda like tw is right that they dont seem very agenday
In post 1572, Skygazer wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 1577, Skygazer wrote:oh hi [redacted]!
In post 1579, Skygazer wrote:red panda


more like byegazer amirite
VOTE: skygazer
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:18 pm

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duppin + whoever else defended skygazer on the page #1496 was on/one-two pages before

your defences suck
you are defending a wolf
nothing you highlighted as town indicative is town indicative

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Post Post #1649 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 1645, the worst wrote:duppin + whoever else defended skygazer on the page #1496 was on/one-two pages before

your defences suck
you are defending a wolf
nothing you highlighted as town indicative is town indicative

thx
also
when
if sky flips red lynch whichever of them is wolfier (I'll be NK'd probs)
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Post Post #1650 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:19 pm

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Penguin, mind helping me get reads on the slots I haven't looked at yet?
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Post Post #1653 (isolation #39) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 1651, Fuscosco wrote:Def down for Sky Wagons.

Like airships but much cuter
great post
PenguinPower wrote:Which ones?

p-edit

@Duck
lemme readlist but it's gonna be underwhelming
how do you feel about Bob to start with?
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #40) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:25 pm

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{tw}
{pp, il}
{redpanda, fusco}
^ town in tiers

Edgar Allan Foe
Titus
CheekyTeeky
Yumeko Jabami
Uncle Bob

v scum
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{Skygazer}
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #41) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:07 pm

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In post 1711, PenguinPower wrote:1.) Why do you town read me? (even if it is loltown)
sort by postcount + i had a super quick flick through your iso and you look a lot more like town!Penguin than in that Death Note game.
i also figure i don't mind loltownreading you because I trust myself to fix the read if I'm wrong
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #42) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 1711, PenguinPower wrote:2.) Can you fly me to the Caymans if my second flight cancels?
and of course!
but it is a longgg flight...
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #43) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 1672, duppin wrote:Wait theworst I can accept you thinking I am scum, but you are suggesting me and Sky are partners?
In post 1674, duppin wrote:I could not care less if people think this is omgus
VOTE: theworst

I wasnt fond of your slot before and I think your entrance has been pretty bad
this sounds snarky but it's actually relevant
did you read anything i posted besides my readlist?
i think it's very obvious why i had "duppin?" in my wolf tier but i'm curious to see why you think i did it :/
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #44) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 1683, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:
In post 1681, Cabd wrote:
In post 1677, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1666, CheekyTeeky wrote:Caymans sounds nice!
Need to find a way to get there now!
You can try to use your newfound time to go back and elaborate on the reads detail you owed me.
God fucking damn it I've been so good about it.

Mine.
oh wow nice to meet you!! i've enjoyed stalking your games and stuff, you seem cool
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #45) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:18 pm

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In post 1669, CheekyTeeky wrote:TW what are you seeing in the panda?
i forgot to reply to this earlier
i don't strongly love/dislike the panda and haven't spent a lot of time reading them

in a vacuum they're very close to rand buuut i think comparing the actual content of their ISO to what skygazer is saying she's seeing in the iso makes me think panda doesn't look like a wolf
weak read
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #46) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:48 pm

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I did pick up on that. You seem different to what I've stalked, and I wouldn't have been able to pick who was behind the alt.
Hopefully we can kill some scums together.

Penguin, what has you probtown reading panda?
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #47) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:27 pm

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In post 1724, Skygazer wrote:tw i think uve misread me at least once in every game since my return;

not bothered by it because i can lord it over you next time you scum read me regardless of my alignment :p
skyg my friend if you're town this misread isn't on me
it's because you're focusing more on posting stuff like this than on doing anything at all to solve the game :/
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #48) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:29 pm

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tfw still voting a wolf
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #49) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:36 pm

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In post 1738, Skygazer wrote:am at something like

{InbredLannisters, RedPanda}
{Titus, duppin, EOF, Uncle Bob}
{PP, Cheeky, Fusc, the worst, yumeko}

as like a rough ordering i think? haven't rlly done any ordering within those tiers yet
IL is kinda obvtown

Panda was my townread correcting your super sketchy scumread

you have 4...null/town reads? which i have no feelings about

pp w/e idk

you are scumreading cheeky because her pred was bad and a read changed? i don't follow this

fusco is towny and i don't understand how he's ended up in your poe

you can (allegedly) read me and you think i'm scum...for...pushing you...? when you are aware my current style of
reading you is calling you to action and watching for tells. you're clearly not actually pushing my lynch because you know you can't get it off the ground, but crediting me as town means you'd need to try harder to engage with me. this read is underconsidered at best; it's attempted distancing at worse. not gonna have it fam

yumeko as i said i don't think you actually want to lynch. i don't get how you achieved a net townread on the slot. i don't get why you're now scumreading them. i think you're distancing from this slot and you're not convincing me otherwise

skygggggggggggggggggggggg
if you're town i'm accepting 0 responsibility for powerlynching you
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #50) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:37 pm

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fwiw i think auro is townier than nancy in d2 but my chance of reading their iso before lylo is like 2%
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Post Post #1763 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1760, Skygazer wrote:i fucking hate playing tbh
hey i'm sorry you had to roll scum against me too :(
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Post Post #1764 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:38 pm

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UGH I'M BEING FAKE DISTANCED
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Post Post #1766 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:41 pm

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i know how tonereading nancy works but i find the fact auro is constantly #townposting a lot more comforting
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:43 pm

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like a reset might help both of us but i don't feel like i'm wrong at all. :c
should we focus on other things?
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Post Post #1777 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:48 pm

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In post 1769, Skygazer wrote:tw you literally replaced into a town-skyg slot where i played the exact same way here, was super exhausted/busy and didn't have time to sort and kept getting fed up w the misreads and it eventually led to me siteflaking among other things bc i felt like a woat for not having time
mind throwing me the link? i rarely remember preds' posting bc i don't have to sort them

a better way to say it might be to say if you're town i think your time isn't being spent well here. you're focusing a lot on having ~some kind of solve~ but a lot of your reasoning doesn't work when common sense checked

if you're town i think you're kinda half-reading 20% of the posts itt without paying much attention to gamestate and stuff and it's making it look like you're coasting. then when you actually push stuff it looks completely fabricated

maybe stop engaging with me and work on sorting a couple of other slots? ik coaching and shit but you're calling on me to fix my read on you. i don't think there's enough town indicative content for me to get you right if you're town here.
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Post Post #1778 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:49 pm

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In post 1770, Inbred Lannisters wrote:
In post 1766, the worst wrote:i know how tonereading nancy works but i find the fact auro is constantly #townposting a lot more comforting
Auro #townposting
Duck #pocketing?

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you know i'm trying to pocket you irl c:
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:49 pm

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n1, same phase as me
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:51 pm

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i'm probably gonna ignore it bc i mistype phases like 1/5 of the time just via being blonde LOL
idk if it's particularly alignment indicative for cheeky
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:54 pm

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Post Post #1789 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:56 pm

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yea i don't think your iso there was scum meta
it read like exhausted towngazer
you were largely scumread over lolmeta by people who don't know your meta from a bar of soap + ellitell because ellitelling burned out players is sm0Rt
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:01 pm

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In post 1790, Inbred Lannisters wrote:"PP and TW might be scum, but it's D1, so I don't want to lynch them"
fypov if it's like
"PP and TW might be scum, but it's D2, so I don't want to lynch them"
would your opinion on the quality of that statement change?

legitimate question btw, i'm pretty anti relying on slips in a general sense (tho i kinda think cheeky is slightly >rand town anyway so i'm not gonna fight you over that)
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:09 pm

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In post 1797, Inbred Lannisters wrote:
In post 1792, the worst wrote:fypov if it's like
"PP and TW might be scum, but it's D2, so I don't want to lynch them"
would your opinion on the quality of that statement change?
Yes, because the statement would no longer mildly indicate a lack of in-the-moment awareness that we're in D2, so we can't make the weak inference that this isn't consistent with planned scumplay.

I'm not putting a lot of stock into this though, just something of interest. I did have some concerns about Cheeky too, but I'll get to that later.

-Joff
yeeaaaa i'll take it
fwiw ime town!cheeky is more easily distracted by shiny things than scum!cheeky if that helps your read at all
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:11 pm

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In post 1796, Inbred Lannisters wrote:Well Sky is tr my slot - specifically focusing on me only - for the oddest reasons.
interested in hearing what people think of this post

for the record: heartily agree with the quoted section in particular
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:34 pm

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is that alt outed
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:45 pm

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uhh your posting has been net towny Nancy but I think Auro has been more obvtown since I rep'd in
volxen only asked me about something I can't remember the content of so :/

I'm not really sure why this is important, do you think I should be reading any of you differently?
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:46 pm

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In post 1812, the worst wrote:I'm not really sure why this is important, do you think I should be reading any of you differently?
don't answer this i had a mood swing and i can't be bothered talking about it

you're a townread

i'm sick of engaging with hydra dynamic semantics
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:35 pm

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ftr: i don't understand the party mechanic and can't be bothered reading about it unless it becomes relevant
out of that pool of players i expressly do not townread duppin.
fusco is slightly >rand town, penguin probtown with the caveat that if i'm wrong i'll work it out
not sure how to read EAF
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:42 pm

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that's fine, feedback in that vein might be better left for postgame because i'm kinda still processing a lot and only focusing on things as they sorta fall into my line of sight
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #69) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:35 am

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In post 1850, Yumeko Jabami wrote:slots that replace a lot are generally more likely to be scum
sweaty.......
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #70) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:35 am

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"i haven't read his posts so lemme angleshoot rq"
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #71) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:47 am

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it's like
1) probs incorrect holistically (maybe exl. newbie scumslots?)
2) incorrect in this context
3) a 100% angleshooty bad faith read which nobody who wants to play mafia should ever utter again

i'm gonna guess that's an alt not a newbie so they should be embarrassed
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #72) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:48 am

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btw Nancy do you get my read on duppin or
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #73) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:00 am

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In post 1857, Inbred Lannisters wrote:
In post 1856, the worst wrote:btw Nancy do you get my read on duppin or
She agreed that his sudden OMGUS on you was scummy, and I'm not a fan of his Sky defense either.

But... Unless I missed it, you didn't seem to react to it or push him further from that - why?

-Joff
haven't read anything else from him other than that
call my scumread there a bookmark. I think he's exhibited traits I'd expect to see from ~1 wolf (particularly the defence of skyg regardless of sky's alignment) and I need to go and investigate further when I have the time.

Imo he's been wolfy since I got here. again not gonna read the earlier parts of the thread unless absolutely necessary so if I'm missing some vital context whack me w it
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #74) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:01 am

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In post 1858, duppin wrote:fan of you
this post is on the towny side of annoying and useless good tone
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #75) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:02 am

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duppin I think you're attributing a lot more to my posts than is there and I'm not sure why you feel the need to call my concern with you explicitly associative without trying to engage with me about it :? if I challenged you to vote someone else who would you vote?
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:04 am

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Fusco you are my hero dude
also haven't read yday so if there's anything important I need to know pls tl;dr for me
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:47 am

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In post 1872, duppin wrote:I'm not sure why you are suggesting that I am not trying to engage you, this started by me questioning your Sky read.
I really dislike that you are now suggesting that I might be scum no matter what Sky's alignment is - not because I think it's wrong of you to reach that conclusion if you are town, in fact it bothered me that that was not the first thing you went with because I think as town you should be more worried about me trying to pocket Sky with a defense you think is bad. But the reason I dislike it is because if you feel that then your vote should be on me plus it makes me lean more towards the idea that you are attempting to setup a chainlynch.
In post 1870, the worst wrote:duppin I think you're attributing a lot more to my posts than is there and I'm not sure why you feel the need to call my concern with you explicitly associative without trying to engage with me about it :? if I challenged you to vote someone else who would you vote?

How much of the paragraph I quoted from you is an actual read lmfso
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #78) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:49 am

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have a cup of tea and a deep breath, reread your post and let me know if you see what I'm seeing. I am really struggling to believe you've read my posting so far and organically reached the conclusion you're saying you've reached. :? Your read is intensely biased I think
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #79) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:58 am

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In post 1872, duppin wrote:I'm not sure why you are suggesting that I am not trying to engage you, this started by me questioning your Sky read.
just noting my call to action was for you to engage with me at a level deeper than "hey ducky what's your ___ read" like I can cough up some nonsense convincing read as either alignment so you're not gonna sort me with that shit
In post 1872, duppin wrote:I really dislike that you are now suggesting that I might be scum no matter what Sky's alignment is - not because I think it's wrong of you to reach that conclusion if you are town, in fact it bothered me that that was not the first thing you went with because I think as town you should be more worried about me trying to pocket Sky with a defense you think is bad.
*slowly bends self into pretzel*
just to clarify fmpov: you think I'm scum because I read you as possible wolf equity with someone I'm scumreading and at the time because I was heavily scumreading her, in the eat of the moment I didn't decide to sit back and think about a world where she was town and what your alignment would be in that world then later reconsidered unprompted and came to the conclusion...which you think town!me should come to...?

I'm sorry if I worked through it slightly slower than you were looking for but again, I don't think you're paying a lot of attention to my trajectory on my read of you defending skygazer. you just said you expect town!me to reach the conclusion which town!me reached, unprompted, once my tunnel softened.

tl;dr:
me yesterday: lol scumgazer, look for buddies
me today: ???gazer, look for wolves whether she's one or not
In post 1872, duppin wrote:But the reason I dislike it is because if you feel that then your vote should be on me plus it makes me lean more towards the idea that you are attempting to setup a chainlynch.
Both of these suggestions are attributing motive to my posting rather than trying to discern the motive in my posting. And once again you have paid no attention to why I included you in the scumread tier if my readlist marked with a question mark. I didn't vote you and am not voting you because I don't want to yet. I never chain lynches, my mood changes with the wind.


If you're town I need you to stop the bias. I kind of understand how town!you could be reaching this level of confbias and epic failing the read, but it is kinda hard to tell this from an endangered wolf who needs to retaliate against a vocal townie replacing into a slot he has pegged for a mislynch.

I don't do well reading when I'm on the defensive these days anyway tbh but do you get what I'm talking about here?
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #80) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:04 am

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I can't get to sleep. :c
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:05 am

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Do you have a strong impression of duppin? Am I being daft?
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:08 am

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I think some people really heavily towntell with massive tunnels but idrk what I'm meant to be looking for in his, it's kinda hard for me to trace the logic of it based on what I've read. :/ major blind spot.
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:09 am

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I'll sheep it EAF flips town
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:12 am

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Every time someone partyspecs without explaining what they're actually talking about, a duckling freezes to death jsyk
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:01 pm

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I just read the setup and while I like the party mechanic you're all making some super strange conclusions about it and I cannot see why a self respecting scumteam would concede due to a strong towncore d1 with or without a deepwolf
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:03 pm

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(for the record I think Nancy is #townposting now)
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Post Post #1906 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:04 pm

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #88) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:05 pm

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Wait there's long term ramifications of the party?
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #89) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:07 pm

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In post 717, schadd_ wrote:{duppin, Edgar Allan Foe, Fuscosco, Inbred Lannisters} has 4*4 = 16 points; dice roll 1-16
{Hell Knight, PenguinPower, Raya36, Skygazer} has 3*3 = 9 points; dice roll 17-25
{duppin, Inbred Lannisters} has 2*2 = 4 points; dice roll 26-29
{Hell Knight, Mary Saotome, PenguinPower, Skygazer, Titus, Uncle Bob, Yumeko Jabami} has 1 point; dice roll 30
{Uncle Bob} has 1 point; dice roll 31
{Skygazer} has 1 point; dice roll 32
∅ has 1 point; dice roll 33

Original Roll String: 1d33 (STATIC)
1 33-Sided Dice: (10) = 10
so duppin/eaf/fusco/IL is the party
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #90) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:08 pm

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That's.... I like two of those slots and one of them I don't even like a whole lot...
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #91) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 1906, the worst wrote:VOTE: CheekyTeeky
This wasn't a very good spicy vote, sorry. :/

VOTE: Yumeko Jabami
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #92) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:10 pm

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HEAL: tw
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #93) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:11 pm

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In post 1912, Skygazer wrote:{Hell Knight, PenguinPower, Raya36, Skygazer} - 4

still better than this party at the time imo but in hindsight if PP is actually town then that'd probs be an all town party lmfao
yeaaa I'm tmi'd on Raya and she's not like someone who forces her alignment to be known so I get people taking their time there but I rather like that party
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #94) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:11 pm

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In post 1914, Skygazer wrote:i could go cheeky or yumeko i think?? but technically i've *reset* my reads besides my townpool and haven't tried to sort since then
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #95) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:11 pm

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be my guest :D*
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #96) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:14 pm

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@Nancy I agree. For the record we should approach partyscum a little differently from nonpartyscum and from deepwolves. we're fine working through the nonparty list until we hit red or find enough townies, and then seeing if there's partyscum. that's the max ev scum strategy I think? so we have to assume it's the world we're playing in.

I'm happy to add more people to the party.
I'm happy to lynch without the party, and also comfortable lynching within.

It's a cool mechanic but I have mild ambivalence.
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #97) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:17 pm

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Little annoyed Edgar Allan Foe is in the party. Who pushed that?
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #98) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:25 pm

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Okay the more I think about the party mechanic the warmer I feel. I'll feel better when I have a more confident read on duppin and when EAF starts playing the game again. Presence read suggests he's partyscum so I'm gonna kinda trust him to play a bit harder if he's town in the party.

Fusco I'll have a better read on later but I still feel comfortable vaguely townreading him but.. yeah.. I suddenly feel the need to be more confident there as well..

still fine with IL.
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #99) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:28 pm

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EAF was here d1 and presenting reads and making noise. Post getting into the party I don't feel like he was very effective. He is currently a lurksack. This suggests to me his intent was to get into the party/be townread, not to find and lynch scum. Not a great read but you asked, so there you go. :P
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #100) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 1928, Fuscosco wrote:My lynchpool is whoever is trying to grow the party
Do you think the current party is pure?
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #101) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 1933, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1930, the worst wrote:
In post 1928, Fuscosco wrote:My lynchpool is whoever is trying to grow the party
Do you think the current party is pure?
Gun to head and money on table? Yes, Im more confident than not.
can you sell me on duppin and EAF?
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #102) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:49 pm

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If you guys are ok with it I'd rather get Fusco's party reads than let you guys duke it out over party mechanics
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #103) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:51 pm

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"there's confscum" of 1-3/8 players is like saying there's likely to be two scum in an 8p game.. :/ Ugh I'm not going down the mechanical rabbithole..this conversation is annoying and not productive.
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #104) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:51 pm

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In post 1940, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1938, the worst wrote:If you guys are ok with it I'd rather get Fusco's party reads than let you guys duke it out over party mechanics
Ive given my reads.
I haven't seen them and I have discomfort about half the party, which you townread. So... sell me?
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #105) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:53 pm

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Post Post #1951 (isolation #106) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 1947, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1945, Skygazer wrote:i think we should talk about mechanics for like 78 more pages tbh
Theyre spamming their way to front and center.
Nancy is a notorious top-poster.
Auro is a top 1/3 poster.
Neither of them have any history of gating their posts in hydras

What do you expect? :lol: case at will dude
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #107) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:55 pm

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I think you're a cutie fusco
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #108) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 1949, Fuscosco wrote:I have to get up for work in 6 hours. And I only got home and hour ago. Can I do this later
also yes
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #109) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:05 pm

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Skyg is the most likeable scummer ever
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #110) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:13 pm

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Titus are you all in for a {EAF, fusco, duppin, IL} towncore?
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #111) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:14 pm

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In post 1960, RedPanda wrote:Also if there was any doubt to IBL being town, trying to make an addition to party should dispel that
Basically this. The way they're blitzing their desire to party me with their realisation that adding people to the party is an iffy strategy is like a surprisingly towny mech call
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Post Post #1966 (isolation #112) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 1963, Titus wrote:
In post 1961, the worst wrote:Titus are you all in for a {EAF, fusco, duppin, IL} towncore?
For today, yes.
say we have two slots outside the party who are likely to be town. they're systematically night-killed until we reach lylo. How do you propose we use the party mechanic to threaten scum at all?
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #113) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 1972, RedPanda wrote:Also I see that the meta players have overpopulated this site. I am :(
For what it's worth I'm also slightly anti meta (it's useful but unfun :P)
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Post Post #1988 (isolation #114) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 1974, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1972, RedPanda wrote:Also I see that the meta players have overpopulated this site. I am :(
Come off it m8y.

Meta is a tool
So is VCA


Tools are useful, and they have their places in a game.
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #115) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:43 pm

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actually having obvious town outside of the party is proscum
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #116) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:46 pm

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sadly so and I hate not being alive.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #117) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:51 pm

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In post 2002, Skygazer wrote:but tw is good @ this game and v town
pocket me pls
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #118) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:55 pm

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In post 2014, Skygazer wrote:
In post 2009, the worst wrote:
In post 2002, Skygazer wrote:but tw is good @ this game and v town
pocket me pls
ive pocketed u irl :o
That's established.
Need to do some not-this-game stuff. BBS.
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Post Post #2576 (isolation #119) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:40 pm

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Sorry Titus I feel like I'm missing a lot of what you're saying. I can give you a summary of why I think you and EAF were w/w if it will help you feel less anxious about this? I'd really welcome that talk post-game though because there's like a rock in my gut right now and I hate this shit without closure.
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #120) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:52 pm

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Thanks notes. Your posting was absolutely fantastic. We were starting to worry we'd gotten your slot wrong. But the moment we got down to one scum, the party became a public cop mechanic so we really wanted the Titus lynch.
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #121) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:08 pm

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That wasn't an alt skygazer it was the vengaboys!
I hope we get to play more soon<3
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Post Post #2611 (isolation #122) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:40 am

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I'm really sorry for even being associated with this. I think I played well this game and stand by that I had decent reads. But yeah... obviously Quest was so supportive of those reads on the basis that he already knew who the scumteam were, and in retrospect I guess there was no chance for reconsideration or being outplayed because he would hardly have let us push anywhere else.

This is so far out I feel kind of stunned by it all. I'm really sorry to the particularly the scumteam, but also the town and everyone who reached out yesterday post-game.

I won't be considering this game a win. Which is such a shame because I thought it was a really fun, well-played game.

Gg all.
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Post Post #2639 (isolation #123) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:34 pm

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Just dropped you a line, Titus.

I really appreciate you all seeing this the way it is. I feel really uncomfortable with preaching my character and ethics in a public place but this is all very, very far outside the scope of what I find morally ambiguous. I don't feel comfortable with cheating in any way, and I'm really saddened by how this has gone down.

Thank you Titus, Nancy, Cabd, everyone.
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Post Post #2659 (isolation #124) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:46 pm

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There's no rule against just policy healing the top 7 players.

(Also out for the reroll - sorry.)

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