Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: Beta Sapphire
Bitches be creepin' on my style.

Hi this is a hydra of ofrhz and Menalque

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Just got in, have to corral a bunch of Italian teenagers round London tomorrow so not gonna post tonight

I’ll read through tomorrow and drop a vote if we haven’t yet

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

LOOK i know i said thAT if we could lolhammer then ME or my partner would do so we would, but I'M concerned that's SO likely to hit TOWN that we probably won't do that. That would be bad for town and I want to avoid anything that would hurt town.

I'm going to be honest, I haven't read much of the setup very well since only the mafia really need to , but I don't think there's a Jester in it.
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VOTE: Ben
Mafia definitely need to read the setup and (some) town can get away with not doing it. Some possibility that he’s trying to townslip here (or it could just be a townslip)
-Hop

Except until you mentioned it, I didn't even realize there was a set up link. Had to go looking for it.

Either way, it is odd that you specifically mentioned mafia and checking out the setup as a requirement. I mean, a couple hours in on day one of day one, its plausible there's a few of us who hadn't yet. Also, if you haven't really read much of the set up, why would you base the opinion there's not a jester or jester-like role? Seems like something you'd confirm before replying back to me. I mean, you're right, there doesn't seem to be. But your so sure post after admitting you haven't looked into it, tells me

you're lying somewhere

.

UNVOTE: Vorkuta

VOTE: Hoptic

Town

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: benhalkum

That Vorkuta vote was terrible in the first place... but you unvote and revote?

I hope you aren't intentionally trying to end RVS

-TL

Why was the vorkuta votes bad

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: benhalkum

That Vorkuta vote was terrible in the first place... but you unvote and revote?

I hope you aren't intentionally trying to end RVS

-TL

What's wrong with that?
VOTE: benhalkum

:fry:

[Beta Sapphire]

Huhhhhhhhh
The fact that they didn't pick a roleblocker is interesting

Or just dumb

[Beta Sapphire]

17

I honestly would pick a vampire into 3 PRs- just via sheer force of RNG you have a chance of hitting something.

Strongman says "hey you guys definitely have a healer".

Shit that's a good point

and why everyone needs to chip in their 2 cents

Ok, the ONLY 6 point 100% Zombie-safe setup
Priest & Healer & Trickster (or 2 priests, or 3 healers, or 4 tricksters and.... you get the idea)
and that warrants a vamp to prevent follow-the-cop nonsense

Can we start saying vampire/roleblocker instead of just vampire

Easier to follow

[Beta Sapphire]

It's an RVS wagon...what about the speed is concerning to you?

Fair I guess. I just don't see why town would want a wagon so fast in the early day 1 during RVS.

BP

I'm reading Vorkuta town for the setup spec.

Little scum lean on Tris for sort of discouraging it. Had that on NaCl, but quickly came back around after realizing the scum knew the roles already. That also comes out as a slight townslip, but I don't put much weight at all into slips.

Also don't like how quick that wagon built up on Vorkuta.

BP

I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o

[Beta Sapphire]

Come vote for unstuck in time, Vorkuta

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Hi

[Beta Sapphire]

I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o

this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.

Vorkuta being on the Vorkuta wagon is indeed incredibly scum-AI, but I can't help but feel Vorkuta is leanscum at worst. Considering a zombie/delayed lynchproof exists this might be feasibly interpreted as a

scumclaim

.

PenguinPower's vote is a basic RVS vote, it is NAI to the power of 1.

NaCl's RVS/RQS combo vote on Vorkuta is probably towny.

It's pretty obvious I don't like ben on the Vorkuta wagon for the vote-waffling.

RCE's vote is L-2 but a basic RVS vote... I can't give anything beyond an incredibly miniscule scum dot worth like 1/1000 scum points



TL

Wait so you think vorkuta is scummy?

[Beta Sapphire]

...They said as they create an equivalent counterwagon...

I'm gonna drop the ball here.

I do indeed think Vorkuta is town and benhalkum is scum. However this being this early in the phase means that the reads have low confidence.

-TL

It being this early, care to expand on why yo feel so certain either of are what you say you believe we are?

Vorkuta self-voted so you vote-waffling on Vorkuta reeks of you trying to get a mislynch early in the game.

By the way, Vorkuta has town points for setup spec, especially considering scum don't need to setup spec so setup spec is obvious town points to collect.

I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o

this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.

Vorkuta being on the Vorkuta wagon is indeed incredibly scum-AI, but I can't help but feel Vorkuta is leanscum at worst. Considering a zombie/delayed lynchproof exists this might be feasibly interpreted as a

scumclaim

.

<snip>

TL

I just want to know how TL went from townreading Vorkuta to scumreading Vorkuta

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Hop onboard the township everyone. I extend an invitation to Billy, Hopkirk, Unstuck, and Norwegian.

-Hectic

Pedit: That's fine, better than being scumread for casually dropping a township.

Why is unstuck town -o

[Beta Sapphire]

@Vorkuta
So what my google search told me about OMGUS is "oh my god you suck".
Are you saying you think i have slight suspicions about you because of spite? Because that's just plain wrong. It has more to do with the language and tone of your comments. And also the fact that your extensive setup speculation about the zombie makes it seem like you are "fishing" for PR's like Hectic so elegantly put it.

Town

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Page 9 Penguin prob town

His alignment will also get easier to read over time

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Why is this thread 12 pages already, fuck me

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Page 9 Penguin prob town

His alignment will also get easier to read over time

-o

How come, o?

-Hectoc

Tone lol

He seems to be having fun, which I don’t think he projects as much when he’s scum

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I feel like a lot of these reads being formed are based on previous meta. Anyone want to talk about isolated alignment-indicative stuff that's been said thus far? I'll start writing my comprehensive essay on the setup meanwhile.

-Hectic

I think Ben is towny because he quickly transitioned from RVS to scumhunting in 28. It feels like town whose natural instinct is to scumhunt right away. Especially for a less experienced player, I don’t think they can replicate this instinct as well as scum.

Norwegian just feels town because of his defiance when he was talking to Vork in 197

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Third person to have this for unclear reasons is odd to me. Can you explain this? If there's obvious meta then I'd like to know.

Yeah my pp read is meta based

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

What do you think of him hypothesising about there being a jester in 17?

I’m not seeing it as a slip or anything

[Beta Sapphire]

Definitely feels off to hypothesis someone is a Jester during

RVS

when the setup contains a Jester but you don't know that and haven't looked since you didn't read the setup.

-Hop

Vorkuta self voted though

It’d be weird if he just threw that out randomly, but I’m leaning towards it just being a coincidental reaction because of the self vote

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I was kind of getting at 'what are those meta reasons but if that's going to take you too long I'll settle for 'how strong are they' for now.

I feel pretty good about the read

He’s probably my top townread

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Page 9 Penguin prob town

His alignment will also get easier to read over time

-o

How come, o?

-Hectoc

Tone lol

He seems to be having fun, which I don’t think he projects as much when he’s scum

-o

Talk about this please
Also Hop is definitely making his slot better and the interactions between those heads is also good

Not really sure if I can elaborate better on the tone read

But PP is also quickly responding to new posts in the thread and his responses feel natural

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

did this game really need 18 pages at this point

swear to god, if I find out that half of the posts are from plat phoe, I'm voting to policy lynch them D1

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

stop fucking posting you fuckers

[Beta Sapphire]

God PP, I wish you weren't quite so town this game bc I'd really like to lynch you rn

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

UiT is rly towny can we stop voting there

- Platinum

I agree with this read

talk to me about this gamma bc he wasn't until about p16 or so but from there on he kinda is a lot more?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

hmm, I was happy to lynch in (hop, plat phoe, UiT, RCE) for today, but now I'm less sure because that seems weirdly consensus-y for both plat phoe and hop

[Beta Sapphire]

God PP, I wish you weren't quite so town this game bc I'd really like to lynch you rn

-M

Why is 20 pages so bad tho

cause I'm busy and it's gonna be a fucking nightmare keeping up with this game esp if hop/hec keep posting in the way that they do (i.e. hard to decipher)

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

RCE feels really different here from when we've played before and he was town there so I'm SRing him here

I can see vork scum but my TRs seem to be happy with him as town + I'd rather lynch in (hop, UiT) before him, as it's partly the way that they've interacted that I don't love

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

hmm, I was happy to lynch in (hop, plat phoe, UiT, RCE) for today, but now I'm less sure because that seems weirdly consensus-y for both plat phoe and hop

Why is lynching a consensus scum read bad
You need a read to be somewhat consensus for a lynch to go through

cause we're P early on in day and not that many people have been super active. idk, just feel weird about it coming around this easily if it's real scum?

at the very least it's making me think there's only one scum in (hop, plat phoe) probably

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

hmm, I was happy to lynch in (hop, plat phoe, UiT, RCE) for today, but now I'm less sure because that seems weirdly consensus-y for both plat phoe and hop

Why is lynching a consensus scum read bad
You need a read to be somewhat consensus for a lynch to go through

cause we're P early on in day and not that many people have been super active. idk, just feel weird about it coming around this easily if it's real scum?

at the very least it's making me think there's only one scum in (hop, plat phoe) probably

-M

Town lynched scum page 4 in a game iirc

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I think it's the exception rather than the rule? and I don't think either of hop/plat phoe screams scum which is what I'd expect for that to make sense. they're just both scummy, so I can see one being scum and the other being a scumled counterwagon

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

I can't tell if Beta Sapphire/PenguinPower is TvT or SvT, but PenguinPower is definitely the second T in both



TL

we're not doing a vs with PP?

[Beta Sapphire]

also, have I actually played with you TL or just seen your name around?

-Menalque

[Beta Sapphire]

what seemed AI about our interaction?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: plat phoe

[Beta Sapphire]

Also, 21 hours 30 minutes, Gamma.

hmm?

also assuredly kinda worked too

[Beta Sapphire]

^both M

[Beta Sapphire]

baezu, could we get a new VC pls?

Coming right up!

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: plat phoe

Is that pronounced "plat pho" or "plat phe"?

- Phoenix

the first one

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

RCE feels really different here from when we've played before and he was town there so I'm SRing him here

I can see vork scum but my TRs seem to be happy with him as town + I'd rather lynch in (hop, UiT) before him, as it's partly the way that they've interacted that I don't love

-M

I mean you've consistently misread me every game we've played together but that's minor.

I mean... I have? Bc I’m pretty sure I got to a TR on you in purge and forgive me if I was SRing you for a while while you were busy hard defending scum in pfup

[Beta Sapphire]

Oh cool actually vork + RCE could definitely be a thing based on the last page or so

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

I mean you didn't shoot me but there was a blatant scumslip and a mason claiming scum so like I guess. Fair, I was scumreading you for hard defending scum too.

Are we talking about he same game re: purge? There was a scum gambit, and again I don’t think I ever SR you that game, the lowest you got to was null?

[Beta Sapphire]

What a coincidence that after I catch up and come into the game you and vork immediately post to discredit me, then try to shift the focus onto lurker slots

[Beta Sapphire]

It’s almost like you guys are coordinating or something!

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: RCE

[Beta Sapphire]

I can see why creature enjoys this.

Enjoys what

I assume he means “not doing anything and receiving TRs for it”

[Beta Sapphire]

i dont like Sapphire's progressions and i dont get why my partner voted vork

i particularly dont like the hopkirk and UiT reads because they feel convenient and are probably wrong

What don’t you like about my progression? If UiT and hop are convenient and prob wrong then why don’t you like my progression considering that I pointed that out and am currently voting RCE?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Hi tris

Who’s scum?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

stop fucking posting you fuckers

Or just play. The bleh stop playing from Menalque is weak and ofhrz not engaging me yet is sketchy.

I don’t think so, I didn’t really engage with you all that early in Boon Wars

I don’t think you’ve towntold yet

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I’m actually going to retract my townread on Norwegian

I feel like his last few posts were pop ins to make easy setup spec comments without talking about anything else that has happened

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Okay, my V/LA is over, time to catch up. UNVOTE: Vorkuta, I probably shouldn't have left that on while I was away.

@UiT 48 I'm not really a fan of ben's vote either, but what's the problem with leaving RVS?
Also, 57 if setup spec is obvious townpoints, why does Vorkuta doing it mean he's town?

Vorkuta's 80 is weird, but I think it's mis-stated? I can't imagine scum being like "we should mislynch some people to get the zombie".

@Vorkuta 88 3 if I have points left over and there's nothing better, otherwise 4 or more.
90 Okay, I think Vorkuta's town.

168 Hoptic, why do you care about ensuring people aren't interpreting the previous post as a townslip?

200 Vorkuta, that's not really a rebuttal to things...

And that's a lot to read so I'll do more catchup in a couple hours.

Why does 90 make vorkuta town?

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Votecount 1.04

With 13 players, it takes 7 to lynch

benhalkum (4) ~

Gamma Emerald , notwegianboyEE, Unstuck in Time, Hoptic

Vorkuta (2) ~

benhalkum, Platinum Phoenix

Platinum Phoenix (1)~

PenguinPower

Beta Sapphire (1) ~

RCEnigma

RCEnigma (1) ~

Beta Sapphire

ceejayvinoya (1) ~

Vorkuta

Not Voting (3) ~

ceejayvinoya, tris, NaCl

Mod Notes

NaCl is V/LA on 8/31 and 9/1

The day will end in (expired on 2019-09-13 07:03:00)

I’m not a fan of NaCl’s catchup so far

And I think it’s worth noting that they’ve flown under the radar so far even though their early posts were meh

Spoiler:

Hello, all. Finally, feels like it's been in signups forever.

Oh shit I just noticed that I made Baezu's sig
#biasedmodding incoming

Hmm, do you prefer town or scum, Vorkuta?
VOTE: Vorkuta

Just so everyone is in the clear, i've read the setup and while i really don't understand a single thing about the "points mechanic" i did gather from the setup that we are informed about who the mafia roles are already.
So Baezu has already told us in the second post which mafia roles are in the game:

- The undead role are Zombie, Witch and Ghoul

This means (If i'm understanding this right) that the mafia has looked at the townie power roles and decided they want the 2 specific roles. (Putting aside the generic goon which is called "ghoul" in this setup)

- Zombie
Will always resurrect the next day if lynched. Can only be permanently killed by other means.

- Witch
Basically the mafia rolecop.

(Please explain to me if i misunderstood something.)

Looks like it to me, although there are a few other cases where the zombie can't resurrect (after being lynched in LYLO or if they're the last scum). Also, this means that town have 6 points worth of roles, which could be relevant later in the game, when we get to claims.

Why are you speculating on town PRs?

Oh, wait, never mind. Scum knows what they are anyways.

p-edit. Ah, you beat me to it.

47 is interesting in that I don’t think anyone has tried to accuse it of faking a townslip, even though that was an accusation that was being thrown around

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

V/LA for this head for 72 hrs while I get over this cold pls baezu

[Beta Sapphire]

V/LA for this head for 72 hrs while I get over this cold pls baezu

-Mena

[Beta Sapphire]

gamma pp vorky are my candidates for scum

gamma is #1

and why is gamma in townblock again?

His reactions have been town indicative, both heads of this hydra were townreading him

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

i guess i'll give you that open 755 is sorta different from this

He's different from Mini 2092 too, which just finished

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

(PP was scum in Mini 2092 and I was scum with him)

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

What's the VC zzz

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Oh so salts town, right

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

@ofrhz, do you agree with your partner about Vorkuta + RCE?

On reread, I think RCE is probably town

Not sure about Vork

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

What you're doing is convenient what you're doing is rolefishing and what you're doing is easy to avoid accountability over

I don't hard scumread you but none of my preferred wagons are going anywhere. I do however have issue with you trying to intimidate me into an unvote instead of trying to show your perspective.

Everyone is scumreading me isn't a good defense. It's also a weird angle to argue I'm scum if all of your top scumreads are actually town. Break that down for me actually because it seems like you think I'm stranded scum and or paired with new players.

Were you going to respond to this, Plat?

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I’ve reread some ISOs and feel like my reads have changed a lot. this is basically where I am right now, I think:

Town

PP, Gamma
Unstuck in Time, NaCl
RCE, tris, Hoptic*, plat phoe
——
Vork, SS, Ben, Norwegian

Scum

* caveat here is that I haven’t really had time to reconsider the Hoptic slot, and their placement here is basically because they seemed towny earlier

AMA

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Actually rereading Boondom Menace, I don’t think RCE is outside his scumrange yet

So he can go back down to the bottom tier

This will be the last time I flip flop on this slot

(Or will it)

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Why is Asgard scum
Why is Vork scum
Why is Smarty scum

the bottom tier is both scumreads and “people who I’m not townreading”

I mainly do this because there are three scum in this setup, but I don’t have three scumreads. the slots that don’t seem relatively town just default to the bottom tier by virtue of not being town

Vork’s kind of interesting. I didn’t like how he pressured NaCl when that was a lurker wagon, but when NaCl showed up, he called Salt’s post reactive and political, etc but didn’t follow up there

Asgard seems to continuously focus on the “why would scum pick a zombie” conversation topic, which I don’t really think is all that natural. Also I see posts related to this topic every time I check in but I’m not seeing how this is line of discussion is really developing any reads

I don’t really have a read on Smarty

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

Regarding my other “below the town line” reads:

I’m kind of unsure about Ben

I liked his page 2 posts because he seemed really keen to scumhunt

But his recent posting suggests that he seems to think scumhunting is pointless so -_-

——
About RCE, I think RCE is usually quicker to townblock than this when he’s town

Skimming his iso, I don’t see that many stated townreads

He has a decent number of posts, but he’s not really throwing out quick stances on people

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I haven’t discussed this with Mena yet, but Im now against the plat phoe wagon

They way they’re responding to the growing wagon on them is kinda towny imo. They seem unconcerned, defiant even

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I've got a townblock, I'm surprised it is what it is but meh.

You aren't in it at the moment*

Who’s in your townblock?

[Beta Sapphire]

I’ve reread some ISOs and feel like my reads have changed a lot. this is basically where I am right now, I think:

Town

PP, Gamma
Unstuck in Time, NaCl
RCE, tris, Hoptic*, plat phoe
——
Vork, SS, Ben, Norwegian

Scum

* caveat here is that I haven’t really had time to reconsider the Hoptic slot, and their placement here is basically because they seemed towny earlier

AMA

-o

Are your issues with the Norwegian slot the same issues Votk had?

Was he scumreading Norway for playing the newbie card? If so, not really

I think Norway is having trouble forming reads and is passively contributing by talking about something that isn’t helping anyone generate reads afaict

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

O think I'm less wary of new players fumbling through the gamestate than either of A.) A new player not trying or 2.) A new player that is navigating the gamestate well.

If that makes sense.

By fumbling through the game state, you’re talking about him bringing up the “only dumb scum would pick zombies” and trying to towncase himself off of it?

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

What do you think of Vork and how he feels compared to Jazz?

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

@ofrhz, what pushes me into the slightly town area on your list?

You seemed pretty towny when you were scum in Whats your Emergency?

And I remember people saying you had a scummy town meta. You seem kinda scummy here

-o

[Beta Sapphire]

I am disappointed that neither Menalque nor ofrhz realized that Gamma Emerald was a reference to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.

I think I did know that (from gtkas maybe) but ofhrz suggested the name and I kinda thought it was funny

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

SS you seem tonally different here than in, for instance, pfup

Should I be concerned about that?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

It does not help that your interaction with Norwegian is weird and that’s a slot I’ve liked less as day has gone on (although I haven’t read the last ~10 pages)

I still like scum in (RCE, vork) and would currently lean towards it being RCE

-m

[Beta Sapphire]

I’ve also warmed up to tris bc I feel like she’s getting to similar conclusions as me

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Idk I need to read your ISO more closely but I feel like you’re advancing te game less with what you’re posting this in my past experience with you

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

But, in fairness, that could be because you’re catching up.

I’d like to get to the point where I have a good read on you one way or the other because i think town!you thinks in a different yet complementary way to town!me so if i can get to a TR on you it’ll be useful to bounce ideas off you as well as ofhrz

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

I would prefer RCE today but am willing to compromise into fake-PP

I still don’t love vork but I don’t think he makes sense with the other two and his townreads are roughly overlapping with some of ours, so I’m willing to consider him town pending flips

I’ll say now that if fake-PP and RCE were to flip town, I think his scum equity goes way up

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Forgive me if I was frustrated about having to read 18 fucking pages just to catch up

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Whats the latest VC? (Vorkuta or otherwise)

I don’t particularly like fake-PP, but I also don’t like how easily the wagon came up, but I also don’t like how difficult it was to get them to L-1 (which didn’t even happen maybe?)

So I’d really like to see wagon composition to help me get my head around whether I think it’s more likely to be a town wagon where the momentum died because scum were on it, or a scum wagon that died bc scum wouldn’t get on the bus D1

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

@NaCl

I don't mind lynching Fake-PP.

Was that the answer you wanted?
Anyway i see Vork and some people are switching their vote, but i'm not sure who else i'd switch to so i'm sticking with my hunch.

This is worse than the “was that the answer you wanted” bit and I find it a little weird that fake-App didn’t pick that up

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

VOTE: Vorkuta

There I was starting to seriously SR you in one pages time, I look back through the content before and see this

What do you think my read on your slot is now SS?

[Beta Sapphire]

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Also, both heads of this hydra were SRing RCE last time we talked. We’d both be okay with fake-PP but I think I want it more there. Mostly because I’m being lazy tho, and haven’t totally made up my mind/ISO dived there yet.

We disagree about norwegian. I think he’s scum, ofhrz thinks he’s town but we haven’t had a chance to talk it out yet due to ITL activity reduction reasons.

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

You’re confused or you think my read is confused?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

The latter.

Could you tell me more about why this is/just expand on the point?

I’ll tell you where I’m at on you afterwards, I promise. I just wanna do this first in case you throw me in the other direction with your answer

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

That all makes sense.

The result of the vork vote is that you’re now probably my strongest TR, which is wonderful.

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Solid pagetop there

[Beta Sapphire]

Anyway, reasons: we actually think vork has good scum equity in our PT, we just prefer RCE. I think voting him like that when he’s someone who has good chances of being scum (power scumming, which I’ve heard is something he’s capable of) and at a point in the day when things were majorly stagnating is I think very towny. If vork were to flip green then fake-PP red I would be more worried. But rn I can’t see (as you mentioned) any scum motivation in your vote there.

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

So working from there: what’s your RCE read?

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Tris wanna do me a favour and park on RCE instead of fake-PP if you’re not gonna be here

-M

[Beta Sapphire]

Okay let’s do RCE and if it’s a red flip tris seems like a good bet

-M

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I don’t see why we can’t get RCE through? There’s time

-M

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Gross, 40 minutes from deadline and the most substance in the past day was a page and a half log pissing match between Plat Phoe and Vork. Fun.

My other head is basically fine with any of the three options. I don't want to vote Plat Phoe right now. I think when he's given content it's been decent. Please more content less measuring dick sizes.

I think RCE got slightly better over the past two days so at this point, Tris is sticking out as the best Lynch option. I'd still be down to Lynch Ben, but that clearly isn't going anywhere.

VOTE: Tris

BP

Bad post

-M

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I don’t like how the flip to tris has happened but I also don’t wanna catch up. We ought to do RCE. Tris feels like a late day scum counterwagon on a slot who’s a very viable mislynch (I was SRing her early play this game but she got better). She could be scum, but situational factors make RCE the far superior choice atm

So help me god if anyone quicklynches tris while we still have 20 hrs left and plenty of appetite for RCE I will take the person responsible tomorrow and pursue them until they see rope. There’s no good town reason to quicklynch tris here when we should talk abut the way things moved from RCE to her


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I mean I’d rather we townread each other and just lynch scum?

But I don’t give a shit about the deadline thing really, it’s the second para I didn’t like. I don’t like you being so okay about any of three, that seems scummy. Like, if we’re heading towards a lynch you don’t like the fight it. That’s a very fence sitty post

Idk why you’re being so concerned with my read on you when I’m not even pushing you? That also pings me as insecure scum.

I felt like you were softing onto tris while leaving the option to switch back to RCE if it looks inevitable

-M

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RCE is intensely scummy but unless we get votes on him asap we’re gonna vote tris to avoid no lynch

Can’t go into all the reasons rn, but the two main things are (1) he’s done

very

little. I don’t think based on my other games with him that it would be unfair to expect town!RCE to have done more. (2) the main thing he’s been doing is trying to actively create a townbloc, which I think is scummy. Scum has a vested interest in creating a townbloc they can insert themselves into. I think town is much happier to let a potential townbloc emerge organically.

Pls make the right choice while I’m sleeping and get votes on RCE. If you’re town then think about how the tris wagon cane up right as RCE was becoming a serious contender for the D1 lynch. Look at tris and see that she is much more likely to be town mislynch bait being used to save a scum than just actual scum herself

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RCE is intensely scummy but unless we get votes on him asap we’re gonna vote tris to avoid no lynch

Can’t go into all the reasons rn, but the two main things are (1) he’s done

very

little. I don’t think based on my other games with him that it would be unfair to expect town!RCE to have done more. (2) the main thing he’s been doing is trying to actively create a townbloc, which I think is scummy. Scum has a vested interest in creating a townbloc they can insert themselves into. I think town is much happier to let a potential townbloc emerge organically.

Pls make the right choice while I’m sleeping and get votes on RCE. If you’re town then think about how the tris wagon cane up right as RCE was becoming a serious contender for the D1 lynch. Look at tris and see that she is much more likely to be town mislynch bait being used to save a scum than just actual scum herself

-M

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What’s on your mind Chennis?

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Bah!

-M