Open 782: Triad Conspiracy (Finish!)
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My hood partners basically open SCUMCLAIMED in the hood, but threatened me against self voting. Sorry about that.-
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I trust that both my partners are town. Are you scum Isis?-
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GutIn post 52, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre edit: Why do you trust Morning and I?-
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The burden of winning the game shouldn't be on the town in hood. The hood that gets treestumped without game losing are confirmed inno and have the responsibility of sorting the other two hoods
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I don't *know*, I *believe*
Like the difference between agnosticism and atheism-
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This is a poor reaction to my claiming I trust both my teammates (since scum needs other hoods to kill themselves first)In post 59, Isis wrote:I don't know who town is besides my own slot
I'd be glad to have Isis' hood treestump-
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Because then the game just ends?In post 64, Isis wrote:Why is your headspace at the universe where we didn't immediately win, auto? Is it because that step necessarily happens on all your paths to victory?-
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DO ITIn post 66, Doctor Drew wrote:I might do a thing.....
But if we treestump we're going to get Isis' hood to treestump for sure.-
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Does Auro ever talk out of his ass to see how other people react?In post 69, Isis wrote:Faith is not how mafia works
Hmm-
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Exactly, it's a desirable outcome, and thus I cease to stop thinking about it.
The plan is exactly to stump the most suspect hood first and have them solve between the other two hoods.-
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There's an additional method to loosely test it in this case and I'm surprised you missed itIn post 72, Isis wrote:I can't rule that out but the pattern would be Slayer's Gambit fmpov and I don't have a strong enough towngames to both find scum better than rand and avoid misprosecuting slayers gambits-
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I can, however, get excited about that phase nonetheless; D1 is about planning who's the first stump-
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My partners can affirm that I pointed this out in my hood already.In post 75, Isis wrote:You realize stumping a good quickly means more jury pandering day2 instead of more unbiased impressions of day1-
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...what's the basis for this? Like if I lied about it they'll come point it out, no?In post 79, Isis wrote:I want both partners to confirm-
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One partner lying == the other partner knowing it's a lie == caught-
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Oddly specific psych read. What do you think of Isis?-
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I now legitimately townread my partners for their hood play. I won't reveal the reasoning just yet.-
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It's classified, classifiedIn post 101, Tommy Two Times wrote:Chainsawing the chainsaw
VOTE: Auro
Should answer my question, Auro. That question I had earlier? I'd like it answered, Auro.-
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Are you still arguing with Isis in your hood?In post 100, superbowl9 wrote:The fact that you've had no arguments would make yall more sus if anything, wouldn't it? In most mafia games I've played, "nice" interactions are usually scum/scum or scum buddying town, confrontations are usually started by town and more likely to hit town
I do think you'd stage an argument with your buddy in the hood if you believed that people would townread arguments and scumread "buddying"-
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Everything is WIFOM
Everything is WIFOM the way mafiascum thinks WIFOM works.
I kind of feel that this is all that needs to be said. Also, people need to actually try to understand this tell. I can't even begin to describe how many times I've seen someone debating *possibilities* and then being called scummy for 'WIFOM' Or, even worse, someone saying what they believe happened (which is the definition of *not* wifom) and then being called scummy for...yep, WIFOM.
I challenge you to tell me the action that scum might not have done 'WIFOM' on
Yeah...
Y'see, the danger of WIFOM is that it messes with town's heads and makes them doubt reads. But, generally speaking, very few people ever mention it in a scummy manner. I mean, I *use* WIFOM as scum, but you don't ever see me "using" it. Usually my goal is just to make town have to consider things over and over toill their reads are all muddy and useless - that's how scum use WIFOM. Sayingg that you think Player A lied while thinking he would look town for the lie - that's called a conclusion, not WIFOM.
Figure this out, people.-
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And my read is that you're operating at level 1.In post 128, superbowl9 wrote:The argument here is that scum is operating on Lvl 1. However I could just as easily argue that scum is operating on lvl 0 or lvl 2 - making your argument scummy! Etc etc.... So how do we escape the WIFOM? You have to read which "level" the scum is reasonably operating at.
Reading you as playing on level 1 is not scummy because you could be operating on level 0 or level 2, my dear owl
I'm a lvl 100.5 player and thus unpredictable and unreadable myself, ftr. WIFOM doesn't apply to me!-
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You implied that your potential countering that you're even leveled operating (this is why I chose a decimal for my own level btw, otherwise it's even odd parity) can make an argument that you're operating on level 1 scummy, and I have correctly noted that as an accusation.
It's a read. I think you believe argumentation is towny, and I think that as a result you would operate on level 1 play. Thus, I conclude that your excessive argumentation is actually scum indicative and not NAI. As my quote says... It's a conclusion! One of the distinct possibilities which I feel is likelier. It is you who does not understand WIFOM, my friend.-
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Isis accused you of acting intentionally scummy, and then you got paranoid of the way she was treating you - right?In post 131, superbowl9 wrote:If you actually wanted to sort me, you might have asked "Who started your hood argument?" If the answer is me, then you know I'm starting arguments, giving you reason to suspect I might be on level 1.
My read is that Tommy Two Times is town town, and you and Isis are scum in the hood - since the principle argument is between you two, it matters not who started it.-
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At this point I'm interested in who ISN'T offering up such ultimatumsIn post 144, gobbledygook wrote:I also gave them an ultimatum that I would self vote in a few days
Any sneak peek into your hood's content?-
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That actually makes sense, I guess only scum would focus on hoods anyway. If you're lurking in the hood it's town indicative.-
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I think that at this point I'm TWTBAW. (Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf)-
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These are the hoods!In post 0, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:Isis / superbowl9 / Tommy Two Times
gobbledygook / Galron / Adorable
Morning Tweet / Auro / Doctor Drew-
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Do you consider me to be a reliable narrator?In post 161, gobbledygook wrote:
What was the open scum claim?In post 151, Auro wrote:My hood is too silent.-
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I was playing on level 2 though, since I knew you'd say that's my plan!
Don't apologise lmao, I'm loving this :"D-
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Ha - you bought my lie! I was at level 4 all along.-
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It's hard to believe your hood is 40 pages - are you saying that's actually true? Paraphrase pages 28, 33 and 38 if you're able to, quick?-
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I think I know what alt username to register for my next game.-
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I nearly locktown read Gobbles, and Adorable feels town from what little content is hereIn post 200, Isis wrote:Why is Gobble's hood town? I think you're pretty likely to internalize the 6/7th 1/7th skew on your own, so that's less interesting to me.-
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You asked me why that hood was town, and I gave the answerIn post 208, Isis wrote:Why do you townread Gobbles? Why is it like pulling teeth to get content from you Auro, this is like my third question this line
Gobbles feels obviously town from his posting, there's a couple of meta-tells I won't reveal, but I've also had a reliable record of reading him so far.-
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I'm a Hermione?In post 214, gobbledygook wrote:You're such a Hermione. If she took any Divination classes...
I think I'm more like Frodo but that guy's a Hufflepuff right? So maybe not-
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What Isis means is that you could've gotten a scum role PM, and also the name of your partner who's a hood mate, but you might have still thought it's possible to be scum with someone outside the hood.-
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I'd rather self vote before Gobbles self votes, actually c-
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Please don't. Talk to me about how you townread your neighbors? They haven't posted all that much here.-
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Can you summarize your solve again, and Galron's specific arguments for that solve?-
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Any and all, summarizedIn post 254, gobbledygook wrote:I’m not sure Galron and I have the same solve now. Do you want the earlier one?
Because my hood will be the prospective first self-vote, so I'm not too bothered with town telling as much as I am solving.gobbledygook wrote:I like... don’t get the infatuation with my hood when I feel like the other two hoods have done nothing townie or beyond any of their scumranges.-
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Also, Gobbles, c'mon, you should be able to townread me at this point Our BoP goes both ways.-
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I don't think my hood mate Drew does rhetorical play.-
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Why is this not a sufficient follow-up, Tommy?In post 110, Adorable wrote:
On the basic setup it says 2 neighborhoods with 3 vts and 1 neighborhood with 1 vt and 2 mafia.In post 107, Tommy Two Times wrote:Adorable, now that you've found out that scum can be split across hoods, does this change where you think scum are? I can vouch for Isis being scum, being scum.-
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.... Why
The entire point of my not asking you to self vote was because Drew would self vote now-
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