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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:26 pm

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VOTE: Tuxedo

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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:27 pm

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VOTE: Battle Mage

Oh wait, fuck this guy.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:28 pm

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Wait.......no, this guy is the real problem,

VOTE: votato
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Post Post #9 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:29 pm

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In post 8, Marashu wrote:VOTE: Doctor Drew - make up your mind already.
They are all scum, not sure which one to vote.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:32 pm

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In post 10, word321 wrote:here we go agaaaaaaain
VOTE: piisirattional
Wait, so they are the fourth scum?
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Post Post #16 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 13, word321 wrote:yeah, there r six of us pal
Good play, scum claim right away.......hidden in plain sight.

I respect your boldness, won't vote you today no matter what.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:37 pm

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Jesus, so many 2020 join dates.

I feel like the crafty veteran of this game.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:39 pm

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In post 18, word321 wrote:I see u r letting the best scum for last, wise choice
Real recognizes real.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:46 pm

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In post 26, Marashu wrote:
In post 24, word321 wrote:u literally have 100% scum rate
I left the Newbie board because that queue is cursed
You couldn't believe all the Newbs there.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:54 pm

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I am not going to hide my intentions here.

You post gifs of anime.....you move up the Drew scumdar.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:12 pm

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You could post a gif of any cartoon and I would believe it was from your avatar.

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Post Post #38 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 37, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Wow, way to obv scum page two.

VOTE: Dr.Drew
I don't have my glasses on.

Is this Pedo the bear?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:48 pm

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Compelling case, I won't disagree.

Pre edit: You aren't batshit insane enough.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:35 pm

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In post 103, word321 wrote:unlike deimos, I dnt blv even distribution is good for psychological reasons, and I dnt think there is a correltation btw voting for oneself and resistance to outside pressure
I do think it is easier to wagon and it is harder to lynch the first wagons tho
Be prepared for lots of similar posting from Deimos. Just finished a game with them, very good player, but their posts are full of analytical data. I felt like I was reading a science journal at points.
In post 104, word321 wrote:tuxedo/drew is a good guess at this point for page 5
Ya, we have done a bad job at hiding our buddying. How about you give us another shot?

Also, town points for announcing the L-2. I have seen wagons fairly quickly formed early in the game where people don't do this and then a lol hammer happens. Though if Midari is in fact scum than there may be an associative tell there, but I don't want to put the carriage before the horse.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 115, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 83, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 79, votato wrote:
In post 78, Battle Mage wrote:I am surprised nobody is shading me for voting no lynch...
i think we know better than to pay attention to anything you do
It took you this long to shade me for no reason? You must be scum here! VOTE: votato
Weird post RVS post though...
BM is......weird in general.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:06 pm

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In post 119, Marashu wrote:@votato you should put your vote somewhere.

Also I just noticed that Worcestershire hasn't posted yet.
In post 120, votato wrote:VOTE: superbowl y u lurk?
Forced vote?

Also, totally forgot Super is in this game.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:24 pm

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In post 77, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 76, Midari Ikishima wrote:So you are saying my self vote was a scum slip?

Or could be something to note later in the game when I don't find it for anything else but humour. Due to it was posted with a gif of me with a gun to my head.

I think you are reaching a bit there. I mean I thought we were still in RVS. I have you in my town pile for now but it feels a bit reaching.
Votato's "scumslip" is a reach and a half but this reaction reads like you are very anxious to defend yourself
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In post 78, Battle Mage wrote:I am surprised nobody is shading me for voting no lynch...
i think we know better than to pay attention to anything you do
These two posts were about an hour apart, from earlier today.

Seems weird that to call someone out for lurking this early, and out of all the people to vote.....vote the person kinda backed you.......who posted more or less right before you.

Back to back scum games my dude?

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Post Post #127 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:32 pm

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In post 125, votato wrote:tbh i chose the vote by looking at the activity overview and chose someone i expected more activity from. according to that its been 7 hours since last post, and he was near the bottom of the list. i wish i could get back to back scum games.
I was looking to get a response that would either confirm or deny, I got one.

This is way way townier than any response you gave to me in Lovers.

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Post Post #131 (isolation #18) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:56 pm

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Tuxedo Mask wrote:Why no L-2 call out Drew?
......

There WAS a reason I didn't mention it.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #19) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:58 pm

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In post 131, Doctor Drew wrote:
Tuxedo Mask wrote:Why no L-2 call out Drew?
......

There WAS a reason I didn't mention it.
Oh, was sniped by the mod anyways.......mod killed my pro strats.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 133, votato wrote:baiting the lolhammer?
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Post Post #142 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:59 pm

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In post 141, brassherald wrote:
In post 132, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 131, Doctor Drew wrote:
Tuxedo Mask wrote:Why no L-2 call out Drew?
......

There WAS a reason I didn't mention it.
Oh, was sniped by the mod anyways.......mod killed my pro strats.
Please expand on the pro strats after you just said an L-2 announcement is towny?

VOTE: Dr Drew

For now
I mean, seemed obvious to others.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #22) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 186, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 178, Marashu wrote: PEdit
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In post 172, Marashu wrote:Tuxedo Mask, why are you so focused on Drew?
I enjoy joking around with them. Also based on how our last game went, I sort of want to test this game as a ripple out from Drew in the center if that makes sense?
Ok, and what have you found from it?
NOTHING!

(That's not fully true, because I am getting off vibes with Drew having a reputation for being scum read and is just being ignored so far.)
My reputation procedes me.

What do you mean about being ignored though?
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Post Post #196 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:16 pm

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I think I could kick the tires on tux.

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Post Post #202 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:08 pm

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In post 201, Tuxedo Mask wrote:VOTE: BrassCJ didn't do anything page 8, therefore he can't see the future, therefore he's a liar.
You seem to want rvs to keep going.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 237, Deimos27 wrote:My early gut townleans are on Drew, Midari, superbowl, Battle Mage, and Worcestershire.
Tux might be scum but pi is scummier.
Everyone else floating around null.

I am now accepting questions (though I won't answer them until tomorrow because it is late o'clock).
Explain BM?
In post 238, superbowl9 wrote:I'll hop on this wagon because is incorrect
VOTE: piisirrational
What is so wrong about it?
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Post Post #249 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 243, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 242, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 240, ceejayvinoya wrote:The way the conversation has drifted away from tuxedo mask is slightly concerning, though perhaps there is nothing more to be discussed about him.

I agree with a piisirrational wagon though. I haven't seen them post anything related specifically to this game yet.

VOTE: piisirrational
If you have questions I'm here. What conversation would you like to have about me? What concerns you about things drifting off me?
Just one. Are you suggesting that the lack of reads towards drew would help in determining his alignment? How does this differ from anyone else? Am curious.
Because I am unsure of other's reputation, but Drew's is to be scum read. So the current state is an abnormality, I am trying to identify why. Is the abnormality in their play, or in how other's treat them? Is that abnormality nefarious?

If the dropping in content around me made you uncomfortable, why did you jump on the new hotness wagon?
I really like this post from Tux, being town read read so universally is unusual for me haha. UNVOTE:

Also, Deimos......your posting seems less analytical this game(besides one of your earlier posts). I have a gut feel that you are just giving reads for the sake of giving out reads. I guess I feel you are not trying to sort. I dunno, need to interact more directly with you.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:25 pm

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In post 231, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 225, word321 wrote:either way, I still dnt buy completely deimos attitude. I feel the particular questions he has made r too generic in nature, too general, and easily replicable as scum to feign an investigation of sorts (im talkin about things like , and as the most generic, others can be replicable). Im also not convinced of the actual intent behind the even distribution of votes; do u have any game when u have openly upheld such an opinion?
VOTE: Deimos
ninjaed by the above
I have openly upheld this opinion before and I can name the player I learned it from, which is LuckyLuciano. We are out of RVS so I can explain. Even distributions create possibly AI situations in who breaks the ties and how. This can then transition into wagons to create pressure. Immediate wagons are fine, but they bypass this extra step and the added info it can provide.
Hmm, this was the post I was referring to......not sure why though it came earlier.

But, do you understand what I am saying when I am saying that you are not as analytical, Deimos?
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Post Post #259 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:18 pm

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In post 258, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 257, votato wrote:drew is usually scummy. but scum drew is also scummy and obviously so in my experience. so this suggests hmmmm either drew stepped up his scumgame or his towngame
Could it be Drew is just doing enough to stay off the radar of a lot since there are a lot of lurkers?
Explain this.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:44 pm

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In post 260, Midari Ikishima wrote:People are unsure of your alignment no?
Hence you aren't making waves one way or another and trying to muck your "meta" up a bit so one can't tell if you are town or scum.
Have I 'stayed off the radar' in your opinion?
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Post Post #264 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 263, Midari Ikishima wrote:I have you in my null town list aside the fact you hate Anime.
I'd say I want more but I would say the same about myself at this moment
Who has been more 'on the radar' in your opinion?
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Post Post #293 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:42 pm

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In post 291, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 188, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 171, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 167, Deimos27 wrote:Midari, what's your experience with mafia?
Specifically, have you rolled scum in forum mafia before?
I have a few games on site if you wanted to look for meta. But I don't believe in meta. If that's what you are asking.
I think we can all change the way we play from one side to another and has no bearing.

And I've been scum before and I've been town and some PRs.
Based on this post it does actually sound like she has off-site experience so maybe I should be more suspicious than I am.
I am glad you brought this post up again.

Midari, yes obviously if you are aware of your own self meta you can manipulate it, but there are patterns and certain idiosyncrasies that you will do that you are not even aware of. Your post comes off as being scared of someone looking up your meta. like there is something you have done here that you have also done in your scum game(s?).
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Post Post #294 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:48 pm

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In post 261, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 254, Tuxedo Mask wrote:@Midari, if you're only reason for not voting me is because you think this my first game outside of the Newbie lobby, then you're mistaken. I have a handful of finished micros. Also, who's alignment have I found out?
It's not even a reason. I've got you town leaning here. And I don't plan on changing that. Just like I feel Drew is town but a bit clueless.
Not sure how I missed this, but clueless? Interesting choice of words, am I supposed to have a better understanding of the gamestate this early? Or are you purposely invalidating my reads? Or simply just calling me an idiot lol.
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In post 249, Doctor Drew wrote:Also, Deimos......your posting seems less analytical this game(besides one of your earlier posts). I have a gut feel that you are just giving reads for the sake of giving out reads. I guess I feel you are not trying to sort. I dunno, need to interact more directly with you.
I usually pick up in this department as the game goes on.
Please understand that I'm being just as analytical internally — the difference is in what I'm choosing to out at this stage of the game.
I need to read through the early part of the cultd3 game, maybe my judgment is clouded because I was scum that game but your posts here lack that Deimos charm I remember.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #33) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:49 pm

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In post 297, the worst wrote:hello it's me your emergency crisis mod, the worst
nice to meet you all
here...have a vote count

VC 1.6
Marashu (1)
- piisirrational
Battle Mage (2)
- ceejaybinoya, Worcestershire
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- votato
piisirrational (5)
- Midari Ikishima, Deimos27, Battle Mage, superbowl9, ceejayvinoya
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- Marashu, brassherald
Deimos27 (1)
- word321

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- Tuxedo Mask

With 7 votes as hammer... piisirrational is at L-2

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I also wasn't voting.

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Post Post #304 (isolation #34) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:24 pm

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In post 300, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 294, Doctor Drew wrote:Not sure how I missed this, but clueless? Interesting choice of words, am I supposed to have a better understanding of the gamestate this early? Or are you purposely invalidating my reads? Or simply just calling me an idiot lol.
I went back and read open 779.
That's all. And how you played it.
But.....how does that game make me clueless? I was on one scum on D1(until a dumb switch off at the last minute tbf) and didn't buy the fake cop claim by the other scum, and correctly town read the person I hooded.

Also, I am not voting you.....I am not even sure what you are doing.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:00 pm

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In post 305, Midari Ikishima wrote:I missed the vote was a skim. I think more unsure of your reads and the game status are a better word combo.

And taking the gambit out. Odds are I'm reading a bit more into it then I should. And of course it was Skitter though she is a very sneaky one but no reason for that here.
What gambit?
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Post Post #308 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:13 pm

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I really don't get the point of what is going on here, anyone who is sure of their reads right is sus.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:21 pm

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In post 309, Midari Ikishima wrote:Don't worry about it. And so if anyone puts people into a block they are sus?
Reads are reads......no one should be sure of said reads unless they are privy to extra info.

Who are privy to extra info on D1?
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Post Post #312 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:25 pm

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In post 311, Midari Ikishima wrote:We both know who is. Are people trying to solve this on day one?
Then why are you giving me shit for not having it figured out?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #39) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:25 pm

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VOTE: Midari
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Post Post #316 (isolation #40) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 315, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 312, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 311, Midari Ikishima wrote:We both know who is. Are people trying to solve this on day one?
Then why are you giving me shit for not having it figured out?
What are your top reads at this point?
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Post Post #322 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 316, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 315, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 312, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 311, Midari Ikishima wrote:We both know who is. Are people trying to solve this on day one?
Then why are you giving me shit for not having it figured out?
What are your top reads at this point?
Votato and Word prob town......you, tux........and to a lesser extent demois as scum.
Slight addendum:

Tux should be in the 'to a lesser extent' category.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 368, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 367, Battle Mage wrote:
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Good read
I mean, I can't argue that.

On the surface I like BM for town, but he seems a little more focused and less wack a doo than a previous game we had, where he was town(and I was 3p haha). I will have to skim his iso from that game, I probably just don't have enough experience with him.

People seem to be coming around as Tux as town, but I dunno. I do get a vibe that is pocketing me and I can't shake it.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #43) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:47 pm

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In post 461, Deimos27 wrote:Battle Mage gives me like 16 tonnes of resonance every time he posts. He's active and engaged, he's scumhunting, he's tonally squeaky clean.
I don't have substantial logical reason for why he is town, but this is one of the stronger gutreads I've had in my mafia career.
I do tend to agree.

I also agree with his hider plan.

Let me catch up with the rest of today's happenings as well.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #44) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:01 pm

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In post 473, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 436, Worcestershire wrote:Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.
So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.
I have said the same thing, basically verbatim, as Worcestershire. Also this shade buy Midari just comes off as really trying to act townie, but still scummy.
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In post 431, votato wrote:whoops. If im not invested im probably town
I hate how people can use this as a tell.
It's like oh I'm not scum I'm just going to fuck off for a bit. Ironically you can manipulate this and flip it so you just fly under the radar.
In post 422, votato wrote:well my case rests primarily on midari being scum. but if that isnt enough reason for you to vote someone (FoS on you again), midari's tone/style doesnt match town!midari. more to come.
How many games have you seen me in from the start in? Most times I've replaced into games where I have to figure out the motivation from the slot before me. It's quite aggravating sometimes just for how people can muck up a slot.
This is fantastic, Midari contradicts herself in the same post!

How dare you use self meta as a town tell!

Btw, my self meta that makes me town is 'this'.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #45) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm

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In post 480, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 476, Midari Ikishima wrote:So I understand BM has the same thoughts you do super?
More or less. I agree with his thought process a bunch and share some of his reads, but I have Worchestire and pi/nash null and you townlean, also slight scum on word.
Apologies if you have already, but walk me through your Midari town lean?
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Post Post #483 (isolation #46) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 482, votato wrote:im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though
Everyone is a Hectic or A50 alt.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #47) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 485, superbowl9 wrote:Well the townping I just got sort of pushed it over the edge into town lean, but I was quite in agreement with Deimos in that she gives out noobtown vibes.
I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #48) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 490, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 489, Doctor Drew wrote:I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho
Who's talking policy lynch on lurkers, I don't know why you brought that up?

I am talking making excuses for scummy behavior.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #49) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:41 pm

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In post 495, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 490, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 489, Doctor Drew wrote:I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho
Who's talking policy lynch on lurkers, I don't know why you brought that up?

I am talking making excuses for scummy behavior.
Super, I fear this got buried.

Please respond.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #50) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:47 pm

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In post 503, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 495, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 490, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 489, Doctor Drew wrote:I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho
Who's talking policy lynch on lurkers, I don't know why you brought that up?

I am talking making excuses for scummy behavior.
Yeah i only threw lurking in there because I see it as similarly anti-town: if you are playing poorly (too scum to be scum) or lurking then you're not making valuable contributions to the game even if you are town, so mislynching a person like that is imo okay.

I'm saying yes we should be aware of scummy behavior, but I'm sure you know that it's quite easy to paint any noob as scum because their reasoning/play is just not great most of the time. This does excuse a lot of things one usually sees as scummy.

pedit: Already on it :)
But, why do you assume that Midari is a noob? Lots of 2020 join dates here, why her?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #51) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:23 pm

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In post 520, votato wrote:
In post 519, Nash wrote:Personally, I'd prefer diversity over gut feels.
by diversity you mean randomness, right? generally gut feels are pretty useful. thats the whole point of this game, innit?
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Post Post #525 (isolation #52) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:28 pm

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In post 523, word321 wrote:nash is american, potato is danish
Pardon me, but I was talking to votato.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #53) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:29 pm

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In post 525, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 523, word321 wrote:nash is american, potato is danish
Pardon me, but I was talking to votato.
Also.....I should learn to read better haha.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #54) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:13 pm

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In post 578, superbowl9 wrote:Welcome to the anime pfp guild CJ
The anime guild is my natural enemy.

Also a slight V/LA until friday for me......getting tested for covid tomorrow and my mind is a bit elsewhere. I may be more active the rest of the week, but I am not sure.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #55) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:26 pm

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Oh forgot to bold.

V/LA until friday


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Post Post #617 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:42 pm

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In post 616, word321 wrote:should i feel guilty about midari?
Were you mean to her in way that wasn't in context of playing the game?

If not, no need to feel guilty.

Anywho, in a slightly better midstate tonight. May or may not actually contribute, but I will probably skim whatever I missed at least.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:01 pm

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Word, as someone who is a card carrying member of the 'artist formally know as Midari is scum' fan club, which I see you are as well.

*initiate secret handshake*

But, opinions on Mara wagon? I have only been lightly skimming, but I find it odd that solid players like Deimos and Super are on a competing wagon.

I will say, I need to go back and look at the reasoning behind the Mara wagon, and maybe I have my blinders on, but The Artist Formally Known as Midari seems obvscum.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:39 pm

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So this is the part of D-1 where scum really tries to get people off the top wagon.

Noted.

Coupled with replacement of said top wagon instantly getting town read(at least by BM).

Duely noted.

I am feeling a little better about Deimos though.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 656, PenguinPower wrote:Why were you on said top wagon, Doc?
I have been a card carrying member from almost the start on Midari.

But you would see that if you read back(not trying to be snarky, I wouldn't read 20+ pages as well).

I can show you if you would like?
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Post Post #663 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 478, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 473, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 436, Worcestershire wrote:Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.
So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.
I have said the same thing, basically verbatim, as Worcestershire. Also this shade buy Midari just comes off as really trying to act townie, but still scummy.
In post 474, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 431, votato wrote:whoops. If im not invested im probably town
I hate how people can use this as a tell.
It's like oh I'm not scum I'm just going to fuck off for a bit. Ironically you can manipulate this and flip it so you just fly under the radar.
In post 422, votato wrote:well my case rests primarily on midari being scum. but if that isnt enough reason for you to vote someone (FoS on you again), midari's tone/style doesnt match town!midari. more to come.
How many games have you seen me in from the start in? Most times I've replaced into games where I have to figure out the motivation from the slot before me. It's quite aggravating sometimes just for how people can muck up a slot.
This is fantastic, Midari contradicts herself in the same post!

How dare you use self meta as a town tell!

Btw, my self meta that makes me town is 'this'.
There was too much stuff that made Midari scum iso, imo, but this is what really is the cherry on the top.

Btw, I am not asking you to defend/explain, just giving you a glimpse on why she was the top(and correct imo) wagon.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:10 pm

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*that made Midari scum 'in my' iso.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 665, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - I’m not and can’t defend stuff I didn’t say.

Doesn’t seem like the slam dunk you think it is unless there more though (despite my slight bias).

Did the Midari wagon start around post 400?
Not sure the exact start tbh.

And listen, I think your slot is scum, and scum is going to try to invalidate the wagon on them. I feel like you are setting me up here.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:37 pm

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That was one of the later posts in regards to Midari actually.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:39 pm

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In post 259, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 258, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 257, votato wrote:drew is usually scummy. but scum drew is also scummy and obviously so in my experience. so this suggests hmmmm either drew stepped up his scumgame or his towngame
Could it be Drew is just doing enough to stay off the radar of a lot since there are a lot of lurkers?
Explain this.
In post 262, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 260, Midari Ikishima wrote:People are unsure of your alignment no?
Hence you aren't making waves one way or another and trying to muck your "meta" up a bit so one can't tell if you are town or scum.
Have I 'stayed off the radar' in your opinion?
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In post 263, Midari Ikishima wrote:I have you in my null town list aside the fact you hate Anime.
I'd say I want more but I would say the same about myself at this moment
Who has been more 'on the radar' in your opinion?
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In post 291, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 188, Midari Ikishima wrote:
In post 171, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 167, Deimos27 wrote:Midari, what's your experience with mafia?
Specifically, have you rolled scum in forum mafia before?
I have a few games on site if you wanted to look for meta. But I don't believe in meta. If that's what you are asking.
I think we can all change the way we play from one side to another and has no bearing.

And I've been scum before and I've been town and some PRs.
Based on this post it does actually sound like she has off-site experience so maybe I should be more suspicious than I am.
I am glad you brought this post up again.

Midari, yes obviously if you are aware of your own self meta you can manipulate it, but there are patterns and certain idiosyncrasies that you will do that you are not even aware of. Your post comes off as being scared of someone looking up your meta. like there is something you have done here that you have also done in your scum game(s?).
This is where is all became clear, to me at least.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:39 pm

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And when I say beginning, the real beginning of her wagon.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:16 pm

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What? Are you a list mod or something Penguin?

Also, I just remember Penguin yelling at me via PM about a year ago.....so vote stays on him.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:21 pm

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Yes, you were very rude.

If I were a petty man I could get you banned for the verbiage you used. There were some terms used that I didn't even know were a thing!

Pre Edit: All words should be banned.....starting with word321.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 723, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 712, Looker wrote:Is there a fascination with anime that someone could sum up?
Anime is dope try it sometime
In post 712, Looker wrote:If there are any claims, please let me know, because I don't understand why I shouldn't be suspecting Deimos or Word.
Lol Deimos has been townblocked (blocced?) by p. much everyone D1, and word has been townblocked by most except me (I think?). Ik you haven't read, but usually if you put people down as your second/third lynch options you have some reasoning besides "why not"
I have been weary of Deimos most of the game, only as of late I am feeling better about him. Would be tough to include him in my townblocc at the mo.

Also, anime sucks......scum points for Super.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 724, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 723, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 712, Looker wrote:Is there a fascination with anime that someone could sum up?
Anime is dope try it sometime
In post 712, Looker wrote:If there are any claims, please let me know, because I don't understand why I shouldn't be suspecting Deimos or Word.
Lol Deimos has been townblocked (blocced?) by p. much everyone D1, and word has been townblocked by most except me (I think?). Ik you haven't read, but usually if you put people down as your second/third lynch options you have some reasoning besides "why not"
I have been weary of Deimos most of the game, only as of late I am feeling better about him. Would be tough to include him in my townblocc at the mo.

Also, anime sucks......scum points for Super.
I don't want my opinion on on anime to be lost forever.

Also, the Deimos bit is important too.....I guess.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 728, PenguinPower wrote:Maybe you could explain the Deimos bit?

Also, your horrible opinion on Anime.
Just finished a game with town Deimos, and early on in this game his posting seemed a little different(he had a very analytical style that was lacking a bit here). But lately I sense a bit more of critical thinking I remembered. Now this was after I mentioned why I was weary of him, so I am not ready to call him town(unlike others), but would rather get rid of others(ie you, Penguin) before Deimos.

As far as anime goes, I think votato can best sum up why my opinion is correct.

Just wait until he shows up, he will blow your mind!
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Post Post #735 (isolation #71) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:38 pm

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Any minute now votato will be here to back me.....any minute.

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Post Post #751 (isolation #72) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:16 pm

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In post 750, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 747, the worst wrote:
announcement!!!Aristophanes replaces votato!!
Big shoes that I will not be filling btw
Fucking more anime people.....ok.

*deep breath*

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Post Post #753 (isolation #73) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 752, Tuxedo Mask wrote:VOTE: Marashu

Welcome.

Pedit: Anime is trash, I'd never be connected with something so cringe. We should make an anti-anime town block.
HOLY SHIT!

I knew we had a connection, just couldn't figure out in what way.

Guys, you will have to threaten my family to get me to vote Tux from here on out.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:26 pm

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Hey guys, don't really have the energy to catch up to today's activities, and gotta be up early tomorrow. I may come back tonight, but more likely tomorrow.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:40 pm

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I have been celebrating the day that Jesus invented 'Murica by kayaking, fishing, getting a sunburn, shooting cans with a pellet gun, throwing axes at shit, and getting drunk.

So basically I am prepared to drop the hammer if need be.......ready to spread some freedom around.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:57 pm

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Is Mara at H-1?
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Post Post #914 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:17 pm

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In post 912, Gypyx wrote:Done catching up, i have mara as light scumlean but i'd much rather have a penguin Execute there
In post 892, Aristophanes wrote:Def holding off on a hammer until Gypyx gets a chance here.

I will get you that readslist D2.
I would consider a Nash elim reasonable though right now. That would be my preferred I think.
Why wait D2 to provide content? You're never sure if you're making it to D2, as if you
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Post Post #917 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:40 pm

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Is it still H-2?
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Post Post #946 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:15 am

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In post 939, Deimos27 wrote:I have noted the recent absences of Tux and Drew.
Holiday weekend.
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Post Post #959 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:37 pm

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If Mara is town, PP please.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:40 pm

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In post 960, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I'm very confused about why no one has hammered yet. I don't know what else we're waiting for?
I thought someone did hammer?
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Post Post #963 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:18 pm

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VOTE: Mara
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Post Post #989 (isolation #83) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:48 am

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BM, I thought I was scum.

Why onto PP now?
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:17 pm

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In post 988, PenguinPower wrote:{word, Ari, BM}

That's where I think we should look today.
Why word?
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 1043, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I totally missed that Worsh got replaced. Froppy scared the shit out of me. We truly are being overrun by anime.

I forgive you Ari, but only just.
Seriously, can I WOTC this and demand no more anime avatars replace in please?

And Froppy, you don't think scum would prefer to hammer or at least be late to a wagon on there buddy who was almost guaranteed to be hammered?
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #86) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:22 pm

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I don't.....hate it?

Plus, it really isn't anime.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #87) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 1071, Froppy wrote:Blame it on the wine but I decided to start reading D1 and just the opening from midori is super look no mafia would do this so I'm town.

VOTE: Midori
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #88) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 1078, Froppy wrote:
In post 1073, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1071, Froppy wrote:Blame it on the wine but I decided to start reading D1 and just the opening from midori is super look no mafia would do this so I'm town.

VOTE: Midori
Well this is scummy for a whole lot of reasons.
So vote me
Ok.

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Post Post #1102 (isolation #89) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am

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In post 1095, Battle Mage wrote:drew is confscum
Lol....ok buddy.

I probably won't be around much tonight or tomorrow. Plans I had are all up on the air.
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #90) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:45 am

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Well I think I got stood up, so I may be active tonight.

My vote isn't doing anygood where it is, I want to sheep my top town read (word) but BM is also on the wagon and the way he is calling me confScum is giving me bad vibes.

I will go with my gut from yesterday.

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Post Post #1117 (isolation #91) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:59 am

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In post 1113, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1111, Doctor Drew wrote:Well I think I got stood up, so I may be active tonight.

My vote isn't doing anygood where it is, I want to sheep my top town read (word) but BM is also on the wagon and the way he is calling me confScum is giving me bad vibes.

I will go with my gut from yesterday.

VOTE: Penguin
giving you "bad vibes"? i would think if you were town, it'd trigger a slightly stronger reaction than that :lol:

sorry to hear you got stood up though!
You calling me confScum is the only thing that makes me think you are scum, since I can't think of anyway, mechanically or otherwise, how you came to that conclusion.
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #92) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:34 pm

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Post Post #1121 (isolation #93) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:15 pm

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I will be honest, really tough for me to read super analytical posts. My eyes just glaze over.
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #94) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:44 pm

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In post 1128, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1127, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1124, Froppy wrote:
In post 1103, Battle Mage wrote:Excellent, I'm happy lynching PP then. I could have bought Midari's play if she was a PR just being overly worried about being directed, but definitely didn't feel vanilla.
Would a PR not out as a VT? I feel like anyone would have said VT if they were in that position.
A fake claim would be a really bad move as town here - I am 99% sure PP would not do this
Dear god you have no understanding of how I play this game.

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Love that low key shade Penguin just brought.
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #95) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:21 am

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I agree with the plan.
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #96) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:34 pm

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I won't be super active the next day or so, a hammer would be perfect.
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #97) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:13 am

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I am the hider.

And yes, I hid behind word and BM.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #98) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:45 am

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In post 1264, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1263, Doctor Drew wrote:I am the hider.

And yes, I hid behind word and BM.
I figured that was probably the case yesterday which is why I was happy with you targeting me last night (obviously at that point I didn't know for certain PP would be lynched and flip scum, and your hands were unhelpfully tied by the list). Makes total sense - apologies if I offended with the whole "Drew is scum" shtick.
Not offended, just couldn't figure out what you were doing lol.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #99) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:00 am

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I am surprised they didn't figure out I was hider, I dropped some obvious crumbs early D1. Or they were more worried about a potential tracker.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #100) » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:03 pm

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Well that was quick.

Mara, I am not surprised you picked up on me not being a hider, open expected to be a NK.

Feels good to have been right about Midori, they seemed such obvScum.

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