Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

[Almost50]

Anyone who votes me is going to eat a bullet tonight. You have been forewarned.

Spoiler:

Also VOTE: N_M

LOOOOOONG time

[Almost50]

I guess the right play is to claim early. No?

I am an informed townie, and I am told both scum faction's kills have Strongman and Ninja modifiers. All townies are MACHO, and we have one compulsive multi-targeting Tracker (will return NO RESULT on each and everyone every night), as well as a Ninja Naïve Doctor.

Now work it out and give me 4 non-town flips.

[Almost50]

Wait! Strongman + Naive Doctor make no sense.

OK.. it's either or. Mod decides. (ALMOST dumb-told)

[Almost50]

@dave: Where did I towntell??

[Almost50]

Yep. I dunno where you went though. I've been active all along. Nice to see you back.

So, are you going to tunnel the guy you're voting?

[Almost50]

Worry worry not cause I'm with you

Tbh this is going to sound dumb.
But I have pretty deep meta on how MariaR enters games and I think she is town here.

You're wrong because she's my scum p.

Spoiler:

There. I said it.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Notty

Meow.

Please note, I cannot count votes if I do not know who you are intending to vote for. Be aware that there is both notscience and Not_Mafia in this game.

Well it was for not science. His nickname is Notty for me and I always refer to n_m as not_mafia.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

1/3 chance of scum

I’m town so one of you must be by numbers and math

Math IS a science though.

[Almost50]

Worry worry not cause I'm with you

Tbh this is going to sound dumb.
But I have pretty deep meta on how MariaR enters games and I think she is town here.

You're right

(not on the maria being town part)

Dunn is Town. Bet on it.

[Almost50]

Early on, one claimed to both live in the monastery and work on the wall. Some didn't seem to believe him.

We can read. Now what do you

think

of it? Is he more likely to be telling the truth (thus is an IC)? Or is he lying out of his teeth (and a lie that 2-4 players would be able to recognize already)? And if he is lying, is that AI for him? What alignment if so??

FoS the MOD.

[Almost50]

Did your parents get you to join this site?

I don't think my parents know what an internet forum is.

You would be surprised what parents of the 21st century know. It ain't like it used to be in the good old 20th century.

[Almost50]

Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

VOTE: notscience

In my personal experience, about 80% of the time, a player asking "why are we wagoning this player" flips scum.

[Almost50]

2 down 2 to go~

What's this mean?

scum

Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

are you reading the game?

I beg to differ on both actually, but more strongly on the latter. I am serious (notice I voted without posting a meme?? INCREDIBLE! )

[Almost50]

WHAT HAPPENED TO NEUTRAL

Spoiler:

The cold war is over.

[Almost50]

Cakez Buldge Hayasaka town.

'But why'

Not answering.

You forgot to say ALMOST50 is SCUM.

OH! No bussing you said. OK. Got it.

[Almost50]

So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons?

lane isn't even in this game (and hasn't been on MS for almost 2 years now), so he could not have been responsible for the wagon on Hayasaka

[Almost50]

It was cold on the

mountain

, perhaps a light coat was a bad choice.

Are you crumbing Monk?

[Almost50]

Does this guy ever get srs or is he going to meme the whole game

Too bad you asked "them" and "not me".

[Almost50]

@notscience: Why did you go silent? I just voted you for "a reason". Shouldn't you try to -maybe- show me why I might be wrong?

[Almost50]

So you DO know why each and every vote was placed on her. You just don't like the wagon/reasons. Why didn't you say something like "I don't like the wagon on Hayasaka" pr "This wagon is suspicious"... etc.?

[Almost50]

a50 would normally be a townread for his shitposting but with this being multiball im leaning slight scum mhmmmmmm no questions

Why does everybody seem to think I only #shitpost as Town? I had always thought it was NAI for me. Only 2-3 players seem to know the difference though (and they refuse to share )

[Almost50]

A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

[Almost50]

@A50 I’m still waiting for the data to back up your statistics.

I can't provide any links. Try searching for "why is X being wagoned" or "why is there a wagon on X" and tell me what you find (hint: Search will only recognize the words "wagom/wagoned" as valis search items and will return each and every occurrence of the word in a thread which does not help. It's not like I'm searching for the word "notsience")

But what is your point? I failed to provide evidence so the jury should acquit you? Fine. I am the DA in that case though and I still say you are scum for it. If the day should end before new evidence is presented you will be free to go.

[Almost50]

VC

Vividly cunning?

[Almost50]

A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

Scum response

Wrong

Right

Left

[Almost50]

It’s the job of the accuser to do the research. My point is baseless claims are good ways for scum to hide behind unless called out upon. This “you go find it you’re still scum” doesn’t show town trying to divine my alignment.

VOTE: almost50

Thank you for teaching me to play. I'll keep your advice close to my heart.

[Almost50]

It's not hard to keep up with this game. The hard part is finding stuff I consider of value.

Cuz we are living
in a material world
and Xayah's a material girl
You know that we are living
in a material world
and Xayah's a material girl

[Almost50]

Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

VOTE: notscience

In my personal experience, about 80% of the time, a player asking "why are we wagoning this player" flips scum.

Rip then I guess you’re gonna scum read him all game

Definitely maybe

[Almost50]

So why are we wagoning Notty?!?

Nice troll. I didn't think you had a troll bone in ya.

[Almost50]

I actually think I like this more now A50's responses make me feel so icky
VOTE: A50

There was a time when I would have thought "Scum!SC wouldn't be pushing me so blatantly on D1". Those days are gone now. No more the fool.

[Almost50]

I actually think I like this more now A50's responses make me feel so icky
VOTE: A50

There was a time when I would have thought "Scum!SC wouldn't be pushing me so blatantly on D1". Those days are gone now. No more the fool.

What does this even mean

It means than sometime ago I would have TR'd you for your push on me, but I do not TR for this push because I no longer believe it's town indicative of you.

[Almost50]

Five Jazz musicians have been featured on the cover of Time Magazine, one is Thelonius Monk.

Second time you've crumbed Monk. Hmmm...

[Almost50]

A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

Scum response

this post sucks

VOTE: sircakez

I like this post/vote

[Almost50]

In 1692 John

Mason

sailed the ocean blue.

Come on! COME ON!

[Almost50]

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

^other scum team from mala

Are you saying Mala is your p??

[Almost50]

WAIT! Doesn't that mean we have THREE teams already? AGar+Elements, notscience+Malakittens, and Almost50+Xayah

Fun fact: I had forgotten what Maria's alt name in this game was and I had to check the

scum PT

first page to remember it.

P-edit: You're EVIL.

[Almost50]

I don't get nice things, though.

What do you mean you don't get nice things? You want me to post dirty jokes instead of nice memes??

[Almost50]

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?

many th

I

ngs.
it's

A

multiball ga

M

e so it's highly likely there will be two kills night one. th

A

t is what i mean when i said "everyone". i was just using hyperbole to indicate the mul

T

iple p

O

ssible kills at night
after people have been killed it

W

ill no longer be day one either and I don't like day o

N

e because nothing has happened at the start and so there's not anything to go off. I also have a habit of being lynched day one which is another reason I don't like it.
i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.

That's an impressive crumb! I'm going to town!bin you for it.

[Almost50]

I hope scum kill me because I'm a very important pr just don't tell them.

^PGO crumb^

[Almost50]

Eat it again

You're more fun the the whole players list combined. Chapeau.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

If you say so

VOTE: SirCakez

[Almost50]

I wouldn't call two people a wagon

But you would still call ONE PERSON a wagon!!! A VANITY

wagon

[Almost50]

It is in 3p LyLo

Yes, and town has already lost. You are now King Maker.

[Almost50]

It is in 3p LyLo

Read it as "Is it..?". NVM.

[Almost50]

I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.

What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)

[Almost50]

I’d say one. Maybe two on different teams but one seems likely.

That would make N_M the seventh scum to be caught on D1. WELL DONE, Town.

[Almost50]

I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.

What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)

Wagoning people, and in particular big wagons, to see what happens.

VOTE: Malakittens
Guess I'd better take my own advice, time's ticking.

She;s going to claim a PR, skip the elimination and get shot at night. *Shrug*

P.S. Monks/Masons are PRs, and not necessarily Town PRs (just in case someone couldn't easily parse what I'm saying above)

[Almost50]

I have no idea, and -I'll be honest- I am not exactly "thinking". I am on a "relax mode", so come what may. I hope the mood will change soon though.

[Almost50]

There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

Reported to PeTA

[Almost50]

There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

Why are you skinning cats? That seems like cruelty to animals.

Town

[Almost50]

Hayasaka has requested replacement,

I don't like this. Hayasaka never replaced out before. (Yet again, she never has rolled SCUM before)

Just keeping it as side-note for now

[Almost50]

I’m only replacing in because I know so much of the plist which is crazy

But here's my number, so call me maybe

[Almost50]

Spoiler: I'm kind of caught up ish

First.

first is always town

Did I step in a time ripple and go to 2016 with this playerlist?

literally explains why i know so many of you and why I wanted to replace in so bad

VOTE: elements

scummy vote

Worry worry not cause I'm with you

Tbh this is going to sound dumb.
But I have pretty deep meta on how MariaR enters games and I think she is town here.

It's not worth overly explaining tbh.

this is townie

I’m town as well!

But I’m sure we got a scumbutt in our click again.

this is townie too, scum doesn't openwolf admit that often especially multiball when scum doesn't know everyone else is town

VOTE: hayasaka
Newb scum response to being voted

tldr: It was interesting because I have 0 idea how to analyze it.

yeah this slot is town

Cakez Buldge Hayasaka town.

'But why'

Not answering.

seems townie

I am looking back right now and that post was an incredible stretch.
I do think your vote was the worst, but half that post was me thinking this game has gone on for 48 hours and not 24 which does change how I read it.

townie backoff

yeah i don't see how anyone scumreads Hayasaka here reading the rest of this page

Ya okay I'll bite

vote: davesaz

townie vote

Will catch up later promise

Liking agar rn

town

I agree with the dunn townread too

i don't at this point

A50 is town though probably

None of your posts look like shit posts to me

Multiball is tricky because I have to ignore his read but also think about the circumstances surrounding it since the key difference is scum really want to survive. His read on me is easily real which is a bit awkward. Social tells won't work on a game with players who have 4+ years of experience.

I fully agree that first post I made in regards to agar was shit, I admitted to that pretty early on, before agar stated issues with my other posts. But it's multi-ball so his push on me being potentially being real isn't that surprising to me.

Although I will admit his posts regarding me "reaching" could be a valid take I look at some other arguments he is making and it kind of gives me a bit of a pause on how legitimate his push on me is. The 2 quotes below feel more scummy then wrong like he is trying to win a debate not solve the game..

good posting, i can get behind agar scum

So you DO know why each and every vote was placed on her. You just don't like the wagon/reasons. Why didn't you say something like "I don't like the wagon on Hayasaka" pr "This wagon is suspicious"... etc.?

good

It's explicitly bad for town to shit post,

Okay boomer

It’s the job of the accuser to do the research. My point is baseless claims are good ways for scum to hide behind unless called out upon. This “you go find it you’re still scum” doesn’t show town trying to divine my alignment.

VOTE: almost50

weird vote

See? I agree with that entire post

He’s town

weird

Agar feels very similar to his intro in mini 2146 we played together a month ago.

I feel like this is the same dunn town intro I’ve seen in minis 2153 and 2148.

Shockingly I have to agree with I’m liking Dunn!fortown

town

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malakittens

Let's fucking do this.

Woo!
I like this energy!
VOTE: malakittens

townish

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malakittens

Let's fucking do this.

not townish

interesting

townish

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?

many thIngs.
it's A multiball gaMe so it's highly likely there will be two kills night one. thAt is what i mean when i said "everyone". i was just using hyperbole to indicate the mulTiple pOssible kills at night
after people have been killed it Will no longer be day one either and I don't like day oNe because nothing has happened at the start and so there's not anything to go off. I also have a habit of being lynched day one which is another reason I don't like it.
i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.

townish

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

I agree with the pretty terrible part but doubt it's scum led.

i disagree with terrible but tr this

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

If you say so

VOTE: SirCakez

i think this is okay

A50 town.

agree and think this slot might be town too

I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.

What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)

Wagoning people, and in particular big wagons, to see what happens.

VOTE: Malakittens
Guess I'd better take my own advice, time's ticking.

Oh yes because time is really ticking with 9 days left in day 1.

:eyeroll:

This is :badposting:

Town should have some semblance of urgency and waiting until deadline for wagons to form leads to bad wagons on town players.

baffled as to why nobody is voting with me, even if elements is town

What was your reason? I think I know, but want to hear it from you.

elements hasn't had a single worthy post but hasn't done anything scummy to the point of being usable in a case. ie he's been trolling. granted by his volition he is bad at d1 play so maybe that's nai, but my point stands. I'm surprised nobody else cares to put pressure on a slot that seems to me like all it needs is a bit of serious pressure to crack.

Because they wanna attack LHF.

And this is not anything that convinces me this wagon is misguided.

---

Notscience is not impressing me.
Disagree strongly with the take that A50 is town but I also would just love to yeet the spam posting to 2016.

Lots of lurking fucks here. Would love more from {Dunn/Dram/N_M/Haya}, lack of content in this game is :sadfaec:

ehhh not a huge fan of this

Hayasaka has requested replacement,

I don't like this. Hayasaka never replaced out before. (Yet again, she never has rolled SCUM before)

Just keeping it as side-note for now

town

Hayasaka has requested replacement, I will be offering the slot to one party who expressed some interest before posting to the Replacement Request

ik ik im sad too but hopefully im ok enough for you dunn

unfortunately i don't see everyone's TR on you

Did you really quote your predecessor THRICE and tried to manufacture a read on them??

[Almost50]

Everyone who TR's IV entrance needs to elaborate. Note that I'm talking about IV and not Haya though.

[Almost50]

hm is Elements low hanging fruit or not
questions questions

Generally speaking, he is. (Based on -at least- two games I've played with him before, in which he was eliminated on D1 on both. Oh, and he was Town on both two.)

[Almost50]

Did you really quote your predecessor THRICE and tried to manufacture a read on them??

do you find me scummy for that or something?

Yes. It's scummy to pretend you don't know who you replaced, and it's still scummy to try and find reasons to TR someone you already know their alignment. So either way it's scummy.

[Almost50]

i obviously know who I replaced and I’m obviously hindsight biased but me commenting how obvtown my pred was based on that is scummy why?

Because.. you..

already know

.. their .. alignment.. therefore.. need

not

find a reason to state or justify a TR on them.

[Almost50]

Mala/notmaf/dram/????

Is that too easy?

I'm town for a start

Huh?? You may all laugh at me (now or postgame if I'm wrong) but this post is actually AI and it says N_M is indeed a townie. Scum!N_M never gives a shit about being SR'd! (And neither does Town!N_M tbh, but it's so odd he decided to intervene here it is town indicative of him).

[Almost50]

Mala/notmaf/dram/????

Is that too easy?

I'm town for a start

Huh?? You may all laugh at me (now or postgame if I'm wrong) but this post is actually AI and it says N_M is indeed a townie. Scum!N_M never gives a shit about being SR'd! (And neither does Town!N_M tbh, but it's so odd he decided to intervene here it is town indicative of him).

[Almost50]

ill help you out, for something to be scummy it has to be more likely to come from scum!me than town!me

I beg to differ. We just finished a game together where I was scum, and you TR'd me for a great chunk of it. You

could

do something that -in your own view- is more likely to come from town!you as scum. The problem is I don't see the town motive behind what you did, so let's say the scum motive was to appear town and argue that it was likely to come from town!you

[Almost50]

if you'd read the game you'd know how I constructed my ist

*list

Das *list nicht gut

[Almost50]

Someone didn't have time to visit a mountain on Saturday

Votecount 1.08

Malakittens (4):

AGar, Xayah, notscience, davesaz

notscience (2):

Almost50, Not_Mafia

AGar (1):

innocentvillager

Almost50 (1):

SirCakez

davesaz (1):

dramonic

dramonic (1):

Elements

SirCakez(1):

The Bulge

Not Voting (2):

Malakittens, Dunnstral

With 13 in residence, it takes 7 votes to send someone down the mountain.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-31 17:40:00)
innocentvillager is VLA until Tuesday
Xayah has been prodded

I taught I twitvhed my vote!

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

If you say so

VOTE: SirCakez

I diiid. I did twitch my vote.

[Almost50]

What the hell does LHF mean

Latvian Hockey Federation

[Almost50]

What the hell does LHF mean

Latvian Hockey Federation

SHIT! You beat me to it!

[Almost50]

PK, found another one: Lebanon Humanitarian Fund

[Almost50]

Town: IV, Malakittens, notscience
Null: A50, N_M
Scum: Xayah, Dunn, The Bulge, SirCakez, davesaz, Agar, Draomic

For everyone who doesn't bother to read, this list is based solely on weather or not people have claimed to be town.

Iirc I claimed scum, so why do you have me as Null??

[Almost50]

I'm, a lawyer

Are you saying that each night you will make someone "uninvestigatable", although this game has no investigators to begin with??

[Almost50]

I’ve played with mala since she’s been back and she was town and she feels different here.

Honestly being town in a multi ball game like this is a death sentence. It’s actually easier to draw scum and win, whereas, town majority of the time they don’t ever win a multiball game. That doesn’t help my motivation much either. I looked at the stats and town hasn’t won this setup yet

happy scumday dave.
You might be scum, but at least ya get a cake.

Let's play a game: What do these posts have in common?

Erm.. they're both on the same page??

[Almost50]

Both made by scum faking apathy?

This is the gist of it, yes.

Neither of those are posts completely detached in a "hey I'll get to this soon," manner. Both of them comment on something game related but are a) severely fucking lacking and b) don't actually provide anything besides noise.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

Almost50 - I think he's town based on a meta factor that I'm unwilling to let him know what it is

Never underestimate me. I could still be faking it despite the fact I dunno what it is. I am just like that.

[Almost50]

VOTE: dave

Weird time to be voting dave tbh

[Almost50]

Is there actually an opinion in here?

Yes. He stated a strong TR on davesaz. for instance.

[Almost50]

Nobody who is voting me is even talking about pushing me

You want me to push the case on you? Fine..

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

I think I was wrong about the hayasaka slot being scum IV has been showing up and doing actually town shit more than most everyone else

What exact town shit has IV done?

[Almost50]

A50 is still my strongest SR by far. Seems like he's not even trying here.

Why would I try when I can make you do all the work for me?

[Almost50]

Oh wait sorry, I just re-checked my role PM, I'm scum

You can keep telling us half-truths. WHICH scum faction are you on?

[Almost50]

Oh wait sorry, I just re-checked my role PM, I'm scum

You can keep telling us half-truths. WHICH scum faction are you on?

All of them

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

someone give me a number from 1-12 inclusive

How about ONE?

Spoiler:

Players

Almost50

AGar

Malakittens

dramonic

*

The Bulge

SirCakez

notscience

Elements

Xayah

*

davesaz

Dunnstral

*

InnocentVillager

Hayasaka

Not_Mafia

Better yet..

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

(1)

Iirc I claimed scum, so why do you have me as Null??

Coz you claimed something

VS

Here is why A50 is scum:
Claims to be scum in the first post. .....
...
Claims scum again in 136

Which is it?? Cuz you can't have both stances.

(2)

Starts scum reading IV for being IV.

This is not true. I only asked SC to explain what he sees as "town shit" IV has done. Doesn't relate to my read on IV much but has everything to do with my ongoing duel with SC.

(3)

That would make N_M the seventh scum to be caught on D1. WELL DONE, Town.

congratulating the town. unconscious distancing. not including himself is the town group. -> scum

VS

VOTE: dave

Weird time to be voting dave tbh

A50/dave pairing!

Again, which is it? Am I distancing from N_M or am I scum with dave? You still can't have both stances here.

Furthermore, you were voting dave, then you switched to SC, and then decided to switch your vote to me. How do you vote SC (with me) then decide to vote me (with SC) within 75 minutes and 2 posts a[art (yours and mine)??

completely unrelated, but how do you put images into posts?

You don't. They appear automatically when they system senses sincerity, which is clearly lacking in your posts.

VOTE: Elements

OMGUS + opportunistically voting LHF and all that lovely stuff.

Your turn

[Almost50]

@dave & @N_M: Since BOTH of you are apparently teamed with me, I don't see why you can't join me on Elements.

[Almost50]

1) My first list was not a read list of my thought's. It was a list of Town = people who have claimed town, Null = people who have claimed something else, scum = people who haven't claimed
2) You stated you thought IV's entrance was scummy then ask what "town shit" people got from it. That implies you think IV is scum.
3) My point has nothing to do with N_M. They just happened to be in the quote. I'm not saying you are conscious in your choice to distance, I'm saying it's a scum slip.

1) Doesn't make sense. People who claim scum are null and people who have claimed nothing are scum?? How does this even work for you?

2) Irrelevant. I may or may not SR IV, and it has nothing to do with my alignment. I wanted (and still want) SC to explain what HE sees as town shit done by IV (so maybe he will convince me)

3) I still don't get it. How is it distancing if I'm not scum with him? And why would I distance -consciously or not- from someone I don't even know their alignment? Where is the scum slip?

[Almost50]

#3 is so funny I am going to let you go unscathed. Jut remember not to tell your friends "Well done, boys/guys" or "come one, men" cuz you will be admitting you're not one.

[Almost50]

Eh I’m not liking a50 posts now but it might be the mixture of troll plus aggression

Can you be more specific as to what exactly you don't like?

[Almost50]

Then you can explain too, if you please

[Almost50]

Listen out of obligation I'm forced to scumread A50 so I get credit for his flip if he ends up executed

I didn't know why you TR'd me in the first place, but I chalked it up on you not playing under your main.

[Almost50]

Come join me on Elements @dram. I think dave might be town too.

[Almost50]

How does anyone not see Dave screaming scum here is beyond me.

I don't see anything out of the ordinary in his play. I hard TR'd him in Gay Mafia and I defended him all game long, and I was right.

Now come join me on Elements because THAT is a Scum slot. This isn't even like LHF TOWN!him. This is him OVERLY scumming it up.


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82957 is how Town!Elements looks like.
THIS is how Town!Elements looks like.

ALSO he was town in Gay Mafia (and was modkilled on D1)

You want a scum game? THIS is the only one I know of.

I honestly can't express how it feels in proper phrasing. I just feel it in my bones that this is NOT his town game (can't even claim I feel similar to when he was scum cuz I was scum with him in that game)

[Almost50]

I honestly can't express how it feels in proper phrasing. I just feel it in my bones that this is NOT his town game (can't even claim I feel similar to when he was scum cuz I was scum with him in that game)

man, you're going to be so disappointed when you find out me role

I don't care what your "role" is. I care what your

alignment

is. Monks can be Mafia and Masons can be Werewolves. You need to be BOTH to become an IC.

But since you softed (not so much of a soft) I will play along.

UNVOTE:

Now tell me who is scum and why?

[Almost50]

Also, if you're really town.. beware NOT to provide a readlist.

[Almost50]

Is this intended to be a general statement or special purpose?
If it's general I'd be concerned that it gives scum an excuse to not provide readlists either.
Even in the specific case that I can think of for a setup like this there are ways for a skilled player to avoid the pitfall.

It's special, and was directed at Elements.

[Almost50]

You have the wrong not

Can I get a complete readlist just in case? I know it's not the usual from you, but it may help us (me personally) in the near future

[Almost50]

Now tell me who is scum and why?

You because your reaction to my scum case on you was off and I didn't like it.
And sircakez is shifty.

There are FOUR anti-town players in this setup. Who are your FOUR suspects? I sure as hell wasn't asking if you SR'd me. You made it abundantly clear you did. Now who else? And why?

[Almost50]

Bravo

[Almost50]

VOTE: Actinium
Aluminium
Americium
Antimony
:
:
:
Xenon
Ytterbium
Yttrium
Zinc
Zirconium

Wrong thread?? Alchemist isn't even in this game!

[Almost50]

And neither is Elements

[Almost50]

i like the latest few sc posts

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

i like the latest few sc posts

sorry! this is my alt

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Almost50]

VOTE: a50
Should have happened yesterday

VOTE: a50
I agree

Fuck u scum ducks for killing him.

VOTE: a50

For now.

I am voting one of these 3 today. Call it personal.. call it OMGUS.. I don't care.

P.S. If it were up to me, Mala's vote is the most disgusting and most opportunistic of the 3.

[Almost50]

VOTE: sircakez

I may join you once everybody chimed in. The kills don't look inspired, but the IV one "may" have had some thought behind it.

Notes:

Both NKs were on the N_M wagon
All 3 voting me were on the N_M wagon

I lowkey think someone wants to imply their team was not on the wagon, and they want to miseliminate (or hunt for the other side) off wagon.

Either way, the scum(s) voting me are stupid (no offense). Once you vote off the wagon we know your p was on it.

But that's not all. You voting off wagon also means you are trying to avoid voting the other scum team (and will hunt for them at night).

This is why it's scummy (from my PoV) to be voting OFF the wagon today.

At least one

from each scum side was on that wagon.

[Almost50]

At least one from each scum side was on that wagon.

Based on what?

Based on the fact N_M was an easy push for scum and actually flipped town.
Look me in the eye and tell me that -if you were scum- neither you nor your p would be on it.

[Almost50]

I may join you once everybody chimed in. The kills don't look inspired, but the IV one "may" have had some thought behind it.

But that's not all. You voting off wagon also means you are trying to avoid voting the other scum team (and will hunt for them at night).

Are these both in response to The Bulge? Do you agree with his vote or not?

The Bulge is voting someone ON THE WAGON.

These were in response to the 3 who voted me in sequence.

[Almost50]

Nobody even really wanted to elim NM it just ended up that way cuz no one could agree

Which makes it easy for scum to blend in with no worries. If Scum didn't want that miselimination they would have tried to push elsewhere. which would have stood out.

YES, I do realize town did the same (didn't try to push away from N_M), but that's not even my argument. I didn't say Scum

pushed

N_M. I said they were on the wagon. Where? I don't know. They could have been early or they could have been late. They just were on it.

If you don't believe me, try explaining why both Scum teams shot ON THE WAGON. It's because they BOTH agree to my logic. Both scum teams were hunting for the other scum team. (Unless you can find something in either NK target's ISO that could have been misinterpreted as a crumb to being a Mason/Monk)

[Almost50]

A50: Scum were on N_M
SC: He was a deasline miselimination
A50: Which makes more sense that scum were on it
SC: So what's your point?

[Almost50]

VOTE: Elements

Yeah should've stuck to this.

You were never on Elements before now

I was. We're a team

[Almost50]

We obviously scumhunt on the wagon. That's what we should do.

[Almost50]

I'm casting my magic spell on this thread in the moro.

[Almost50]

That is IRL tomorrow

[Almost50]

Let me be honest: I don't feel like trying too hard in this game. HOWEVER, I did promise to reread, so I am going to do just that and see where it gets me.

[Almost50]

I don't think I can get myself to change my scum pool no matter how hard I try.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

Elements
Malakittens
SirCakez
dramonic

These are the 4 scums.

Dunnstral
The Bulge
AGar
davesaz

And these are all Town.

Xayah is a wild card, but at this time is more likely town.

Out of the 4 scums I am least confident in my dram read (only PoE got me there) and most confident in Elements & Cakez. Just check their voting patterns on D1.

Furthermore, there are 2-3 scums on this wagon:

Hayasaka (5): Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic

And I already said I TR Dunn & AGar

Hayasaka (replaced by IV) flipped Town. IV was most likely shot because scum thought the wagon failed due to them being Scum, and that Haya replaced out because she was suspected as scum.

Of the 5 (voting Hayasaka above) only SC & Elements were on N_M (the last 2). If I wanted to push my luck I'd say they're a team, but I am not sure (of Elements had hammered I'd know they're not, because Elements doesn't hammer right after his p had voted. SC however can do just that).

Now here's a thought: Could you please use the Hurt/Heal tags to show which of SC/Elements you'd vote if HYPOTHETICALLY they were the only available options?

[Almost50]

Furthermore, there are 2-3 scums on this wagon:

Hayasaka (5): Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic

And I already said I TR Dunn & AGar

Hayasaka (replaced by IV) flipped Town. IV was most likely shot because scum thought the wagon failed due to them being Scum, and that Haya replaced out because she was suspected as scum.

Which VC was this from?

First 2 I believe. Opening 4-5 pages I'm sure

[Almost50]

Today's revelation: Elements is scum with Malakittens. SC is scum with dram (or Xayah).

[Almost50]

OK..

VOTE: Elements

[Almost50]

FYI' just because N_M got town!cred out of it doesn't mean YOU get town!cred for self-voting

[Almost50]

Then you are not reading the game AT ALL, because it's mentioned at the bottom of AGar's 879 on this very page

[Almost50]

Btw, just in case someone flls for the self-vote gambit, I was scum with Elements in BOTC less than 3 months ago, and he did self-vote in this specific post

[Almost50]

Elements replaced in to that game.

So? The point is he self-voted as Scum before. His "trust tell" form Gay Mafia is no longer valid. (You do remember why he was mod-killed in that game, don't you?)

[Almost50]

who was it who said elements would be best kept past day 1?

I didn't say that per se, but I did acknowledge he is miselimination bait when he's town. Doesn't mean he can act as scummy as he is and be given a pass for it. Furthermore, he will still be miselimination bait if he is town, so it's best to take him out now, cuz scum are never gonna shoot that.

[Almost50]

1- I don't think you are town
2- The point was you will be saved for a later elimination if you are town (or even if you are not, since scum don't know who is town and who is on the other scum team)

Now, assuming you're town I'd strongly recommend that you revamp your playstyle. If you are ALWAYS being pushed as scummy, perhaps it's time to take a pause and try to pinpoint what it is you're doing wrong ALL THE TIME.

[Almost50]

Sure. Everyone else is playing the game the wrong way and you're the only one who knows how to play it properly. Got it.

[Almost50]

Let’s leave the tm game out of it.
A50 you said something D1 about elements that made me think you had a tr there. The read list comment. Maybe I misinterpreted?

Um... I had to go back and ISO myself to know what you're talking about. I think you meant THIS

Spoiler:

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?

many th

I

ngs.
it's

A

multiball ga

M

e so it's highly likely there will be two kills night one. th

A

t is what i mean when i said "everyone". i was just using hyperbole to indicate the mul

T

iple p

O

ssible kills at night
after people have been killed it

W

ill no longer be day one either and I don't like day o

N

e because nothing has happened at the start and so there's not anything to go off. I also have a habit of being lynched day one which is another reason I don't like it.
i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.

That's an impressive crumb! I'm going to town!bin you for it.

Which was clearly not serious.

HOWEVER, I did have Elements down as Town at some early point in the game (I don't remember why specifically and my ISO of myself didn't help refresh my memory. All I remember is I moved him out of the list and landed him second only to myself in my word file on the PC)

As for the readlist it was when I started SRing him actually

Spoiler:

(1)

Iirc I claimed scum, so why do you have me as Null??

Coz you claimed something

VS

Here is why A50 is scum:
Claims to be scum in the first post. .....
...
Claims scum again in 136

Which is it?? Cuz you can't have both stances.

(2)

Starts scum reading IV for being IV.

This is not true. I only asked SC to explain what he sees as "town shit" IV has done. Doesn't relate to my read on IV much but has everything to do with my ongoing duel with SC.

(3)

That would make N_M the seventh scum to be caught on D1. WELL DONE, Town.

congratulating the town. unconscious distancing. not including himself is the town group. -> scum

VS

VOTE: dave

Weird time to be voting dave tbh

A50/dave pairing!

Again, which is it? Am I distancing from N_M or am I scum with dave? You still can't have both stances here.

Furthermore, you were voting dave, then you switched to SC, and then decided to switch your vote to me. How do you vote SC (with me) then decide to vote me (with SC) within 75 minutes and 2 posts a[art (yours and mine)??

completely unrelated, but how do you put images into posts?

You don't. They appear automatically when they system senses sincerity, which is clearly lacking in your posts.

VOTE: Elements

OMGUS + opportunistically voting LHF and all that lovely stuff.

Your turn

I may have had doubts after his 734 which I thought "may" be a crumb of Mason/Monk (referring to a ROLE not an alignment), but he sisn't eat a bullet at night so he is likely a Wolf-Mason or a Goon-Monk (Don't ask! This is my mind working it's magic as usual). Either way he continues to be scummy to the point I'd rather do scum a favour and eliminate him myself.

P.S. Regardless of his alignment, elimination ANY slot IS "doing Scum a favour" at this point. If it's a Town slot we are doing BOTH Scum sides a favour. If it's Scum we are doing the opposing side a favour. It's not a slip.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

@dave: Tthen you definitely misunderstood. There's a conditional IF in 736

[Almost50]

Yes. I explicitly said he crumbed (or I thought he crumbed) PR. I now think he could be SCUM PR still. Either Wolf-Mason or Mafia-Monk.

Let me try again:

man, you're going to be so disappointed when you find out me role

This was the post I built my "theory" on. It was just 2 posts above mine that you quoted. He specifically mention ROLE. He didn't say I would be disappointed when I find out his "alignment". That lead me to believe he might be crumbing Mason or Monk, and that's why I told him not to post a readlist (so that he doesn't out the other Mason/Monk). Right now I think he may or may not be a PR, but he is more likely scum either way.

[Almost50]

Right now I think he may or may not be a PR,

but he is more likely scum either way

.

[Almost50]

hes not a pr regardless.

shameless prod-dodge

Do you think Elements genuinely believed I was Scum and was trying to signal to me he was on the opposing Scum team then???

[Almost50]

I'm in the mood for writing a poem, so here goes...

This one is dedicated to my dear friend; Elements:

Mafia are Red
Werewolves are Blue
And if there's anything I'm certain of
I wanna rope you hoooooooooooooooooo

[Almost50]

Wah gwaan. Me ago no contribute today regretfully. Peace out.

[Almost50]

I may be available by the time you're caught up

[Almost50]

I can do dram. He's the weakest of my SRs though

[Almost50]

Oh! We're claiming. :/

I'll wait for my turn.

[Almost50]

*Sigh* I'm a VT.

Popcorn SirCakez

[Almost50]

You can claim before AGar if you wish. It's not like someone can fakeclaim PR and get away with it with all 4 still alive

[Almost50]

You can claim before AGar if you wish. It's not like someone can fakeclaim PR and get away with it with all 4 still alive

I don't think anti-town are at all likely to fakeclaim mason/monk, so does order really matter vs getting masons and monks to claim

That's what I'm saying. Just claim. It's you, AGar & Elements slot left, and apparently these contain 2 PRs (if I didn't miscount)

[Almost50]

I've got nothing more to add except to reiterate scum are Elements+Malakittens+SirCakez+dramonic

[Almost50]

EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.

[Almost50]

@Joey_: Here's my most recent

finished

Scum game. And this was the one just before it (technically I was 3P, but my win con was for the SCUM TEAM TO WIN). Third & fourth most recent as well. And here's a fifth. I think 5 most recently ended should be enough?

[Almost50]

If course I can't speak about ongoing games, but I am waiting for one to start (role PMs aren't even out yet) where I

will be

if you want to spectate that.

[Almost50]

EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.

Again, he's claimed vt already.

I keep friggin' forgetting this.

So it goes w/o saying bith Dunn & AGar are PRs? (If not, please claim PR anyway, because in that unlikely event a PR claimed VT)

[Almost50]

tbh Almost 2fold kinda drained my will to put energy in, so Im just waiting for the moment Dave flips scum so I can go I told you so.
zzz

That game is OVER now, so I can actually point out the OTHER reason I suspect you (besides PoE): Your play here doesn't look ANYTHING like your play in that game. I can buy that you were concentrating on one game over the other, but now that that is over, what's your excuse?

[Almost50]

OMG! OMG OMG! The Bulge is the only VT I TR from the living players. And if we add the flipped my Scum pool on D1 consisted of 6 VTs!!!

P.S. Obviously I meant VT "claim".

[Almost50]

FFS, AGar! He quoted my post where I explicitly said you both should claim PRs even if you're not.

Like, I got the hint.. just as I did get he was PR in the previous game. You did NOT need to out his gambit though.

[Almost50]

EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.

Again, he's claimed vt already.

I keep friggin' forgetting this.

So it goes w/o saying bith Dunn & AGar are PRs? (

If not, please claim PR anyway

, because in that unlikely event a PR claimed VT)

Ah I didn't realize everyone else had claimed already, yeah I am

[Almost50]

Geez! Man. Now you're dead 100% because you're the IC dave was talking about.

[Almost50]

No it isn't. When you're TOWN and you are LAST TO CLAIM you can ABSORB A NIGHTKILL off the real PRs.

Now, if Dunn was Scum then what's the point of his claim? Eat a NK from the other Scum team or get CC'd and eliminated on the spot?? It's an OPEN SETUP, so he knows PRs come in pairs that can confirm each other. No Scum would EVER try this gambit at this point of the game.

[Almost50]

Claiming PR also would force an IC out, get rxns, dodging the lynch pool etc

So we agree the flip pool is ; toadpool/hoothoot/monkey/cakez/buldge/kitty

No we don't. It's toadpool/hoothoot/cakez/kitty. Period. You don't add anyone else unless one of those flips green.

[Almost50]

So I remember myself, AGar, and Joey_. Don't remember who the 4th is will have to reread.

There is no 4th, AGar is a Mason Monk = IC (unless I misunderstood what he meant by "I know Dunn can't be a PR")

[Almost50]

I didn't "assume". I

knew

. Why else would Dunn quote my request??

Let me put it another way.. I have a way of communicating with some players under certain circumstances, and this was one of them. If Dunn had claimed w.o. the quote I wouldn't have been able to tell until he retracted, but with the quote I just knew he was doing exactly what I requested him to do.

Did you know I also knew your slot was a PR? Because Maria had crumbed it in 40, which is why I never bothered to actually tackle her (me and Maria usually end up having some interesting duels).

Bottom line: Sometimes it takes a bit more than "text book instructions" to read the game. I bet nobody took post #40 for anything more than fluff.

[Almost50]

I have a way of communicating with some players under certain circumstances

That sounds vaguely like something

against the rules

Not at all. If I know you well I know how to read you. If you also know me well you know how to read me. The only way to avoid this is by playing under anonymous accounts each game (and then some players may still be able to recognize other players all the same)

[Almost50]

Not sure how you took that as a crumb.

Well, she certainly wasn't claiming Werewolf with "Worry worry..".

[Almost50]

Here's a good reminder:

Not_Mafia

(7): Malakittens,

davesaz, notscience, innocentvillager, Xayah,

Elements, SirCakez

Do you think that wagon was pure?? Would N_M have been eliminated by an ALL TOWN wagon?? GIVE ME A BREAK!

There are AT LEAST 2 Scums in Mala/Elements/SC (assuming 1 of each team) but I'm telling you ALL THREE are scum + dram

Rest of that VC:

Malakittens (1):

AGar

davesaz

(1): dramonic
elements (1):

Not_Mafia

SirCakez(1): The Bulge

Not Voting (2): Dunnstral, Almost50

[Almost50]

Joey might just be scum too

I'm coming around to this. That vote switch off Mala just when the wagon took off reeks of a scum pair. Problem is you won't vote Mala still, so...

[Almost50]

The sun doesn't seem to move here.

Are you in TV??

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

You didn't vote one of DDL/SC though. Surely if you thought/suspected you goofed then you suspected one (or both) of them to be scum (of the other team). Instead, you opted to vote my top TR (before the claims).

Pick one of DDL/SC to vote if you suspect Mala is the wrong choice today.

[Almost50]

If dundun is town he actually deserves to lose and I am fine w/ that.

So, his isn't a town mindset and yours above is??? Get out of here.

P-edit: I find it hilarious that you managed to respond to this part and not the main point which was IF YOU BLOODY SUSPECTED YOU GOOFED THEN -BY NECESSITY- YOU SUSPECT AT LEAST ONE OF DDL/SC IS SCUM.

You know what?

VOTE: Joey_

[Almost50]

I still prefer dundun

With all due respect, I don't care what you prefer. I'm a starter, you're a replacement. You don't replace in to mess up my stats with your whims, assuming you are town.

[Almost50]

Like I was townreading elements when he was there and cakez the majority of the last 20 pages. I disliked cakez vote and Drlittle well, hasn't done anything since replace-in so both my townreads on them was wavering from their vote. Still, even if wavering, they were both still less scum than dundun

Is that clearer?

No. That's bullshit. If both are town then the wagon on Mala was growing naturally. I was positing to hammer once one more vote had been casted on her myself. Town tens to vote scum after a massclaim and based on the D1 elimination wagon on TOWN.

You're fucking assuming 7 Townies voted N_M for the elimination?? SERIOUSLY??

[Almost50]

Listen, you go before Dunn. I am not letting him get eliminated here. If he managed to fool me, I am to blame. But I'm not yielding. Not when my bloody readlist BEFORE the massclaim looked like:

Dunn
dave
AGar/Bulge

Xayah

dram
Mala/Elements/SC

[Almost50]

Damn right I can eliminate you. If I can't then I'll die trying.

But your not

the

elimination I want today. I want one of the 4 yop suspects of mine. If one of them flips green then you sre are the backup pick

[Almost50]

I didn't TR "the whole fucking game". For one thing, you were not there "the whole fucking game". For another, I explicitly said Xayah was a Town lean "for now", after having listed 4 towns reads and 4 scum reads. I never said Xayah was "Town".

And yes, you voted your partner -if you are scum- and didn't expect the wagon to grow so fast. When it did you panicked and hopped off the wagon in an attempt to defuse it. That's what scum do all the time. INEXPERIENCED SCUM that is (and you can't look me in the eye and tell me that you're a master at playing Scum). It's a hell of a tell, and always has been.

So, regardless of your true alignment that was a scummy move, and voting someone other than SC/DDL is another, and voting off the bloody N_M wagon is a third. 3 strikes in just one move.

[Almost50]

Joey, I'm done talking to you. I don't want to get too angry with you I start pulling a kuribo on you. (I love kuribo, btw, and I can understand his frustration like 80% of the time)

[Almost50]

VOTE: Mala

@dave: Do you have a problem with the Mala wagon?

[Almost50]

@dave: Do you have a problem with the Mala wagon?

A quick iso review doesn't reveal any obvious looking for scum. Certainly wouldn't be opposed to it.

Would you care to switch your vote to her then?

[Almost50]

With Mala flipping Green (and Joey too) I am ashamed to say I was wrong about either Dunn or The Bulge. I dunno which though.

[Almost50]

^ This still means my elimination pool is still DDL/dram/SC ^

[Almost50]

Because that's who Scum are!!!!

[Almost50]

Well, you can I so the other two. You can just check your own Role PM for the 3rd.

[Almost50]

Actually, if you want to ISO yourself (i.e. not your predecessor) that might be less work than going to your inbox!

[Almost50]

Ari, my friend: There are only 7 players alive and FOUR of them are Scum. dave is the only living PR left alive after Joey's massclaim move. I know my own alignment (I won't hold it against anyone to SR me after the Mala flip though), which leaves me with a 4 Scum out of the remaining 5 slots.

Now are you telling me that YOU are the ONLY Town player left alive besides me and dave?

[Almost50]

Like, let's have a read list from you with as much detailed reasoning as possible. I know it's too much work for your liking, but I want to know why I should put you above SC/DDL, and even more why I should SR BOTH Bulge & Dunn over you.

[Almost50]

Time for A50 to go methinks

Even if you do that; you go into the night as 2-2-2, and there's no guarantee you (or your p) won't get shot still while the other one eats rope tomorrow.

[Almost50]

Wait! dave a MONK, so SC is a Mafioso. He would expect the Wolves to be shooting dave while he goes hunting for them.

But the fact that you, DDL AND Ari are alive should be enough evidence I am NOT Scum at all. My strategy would have been to shoot one of the other scum team last night over a PR.

[Almost50]

Oh, NVM. I could've shot Joey as I did suspect him.

P-edit: Nothing, but I don't fancy going for the one living PR out of all!! I don't want to eliminate you/Dunn today either, although I happen to know now that at least one of you is Scum!

[Almost50]

Unless you're saying you, me and Dunn are the 3 remaining townies, but that's irrelevant because I still want one of SC/Ari/DDL

[Almost50]

ok I was hesitant at first to bring this up but i dont see how letting it be the elephant in the room helps us at all

why is nobody talking about agar's still-secret partner? how does keeping them unclaimed help anyone besides scum if they're hiding in one of the hoods?

What secret partner???

[Almost50]

@Bulge: Do you understand how this setup works???

P-edit: NVM the question above. You need new glasses

[Almost50]

Oh, FUCK!

@Mod: You put Joey as a VT in post 0 and Mason in the opening day post. Which is it?

[Almost50]

I actually low-key am considering a No Elimination today. BOTH Scum teams NEED to hunt for each other. Whichever shoots Town tonight is likely to lose the game.

What do you think?

[Almost50]

I'll sleep on this thought for now, and will revisit in the morning

[Almost50]

even a scumflip potentially hands the game to one team if they're able to shoot based on assocs

Which is why I'm suggesting the No Elimination play. I've thought of a worst scenario case where we eliminate one scum and the opposing team shoots the other while that lone scumster shoots Town, leaving us at a 2-2-0 situation.
Even if said lone scum holsters (but still gets shot) we end up at 3-2 tomorrow, which means we need to go through 2 EyLo phases to win.

If we flip scum and their p manages to both survive and hit one of the opposing team we would be at 2-1-1 and we still would need to go for No Elimination tomorrow (we would have no choice about it as either a correct or a miselimination would lose us the game)

The one and ONLY good scenario for us today (if we do eliminate someone) would be to:
A- Hit scum, and B- Both Scum teams cross-kill, resulting in a 3-1-0 situation tomorrow.

Going for a No Elimination today FORCES both teams to hunt for each other. Whichever of them misses loses the game. If they both miss we at a no worse situation either (the remaining townie abstains and forces a No Elimination OR a joint Scum win)

VOTE: No Elimination

[Almost50]

let's light a fire here then

VOTE: Aristophanes

ari how much have you read?

I'm sure that its drdolittle. Other 3 are up in the air. We should go for the obvious pick today.

VOTE: Drdolittle

You both going for a vote isn't helping me decide which of you is Scum! If both of you are, then God help us!

[Almost50]

I'll say it again: Eliminating scum is only a good idea if we can guarantee cross killing from BOTH sides tonight. Do the math:

3-2-2 >> 3-2-1 >> 3-1-0 is a GOOD series of events

3-2-2 >> 3-2-1 >> 2-2-0 is an instant town loss

3-2-2 >> 3-2-1 >> 2-1-1 We're in the same situation as today

3-2-2 >> 3-2-1 >> 1-2-1 We lost already

So, 2 out of four scenarios result in a certain town defeat, one doesn't change the odds, and only one gives us a better chance than no elim

If we no elim we get

3-2-2 >> 3-1-1 We only need to eliminate correctly in two successive days to win
3-2-2 >> 2-2-1 We need to eliminate from the larger team and rely on the crosskills
3-2-2 >> 1-2-2 IRONICALLY we STILL HAVE A CHANCE, provided scum crosskill twice. Not that whichever of them shoots the townie LOSES to the other

[Almost50]

I'm in court this morning so vote count will come in the afternoon

What are you being accused of?

[Almost50]

Oh god what the fuck is this

It's a Scum claim. The question is WHY he's doing it.

[Almost50]

Here's my daily nonchalant contribution to this thread

[Almost50]

I said to myself after the day flip that I probably never looked hard enough at The Bulge. Nicely done there.

I really didn't want it to be A50 because that would have meant my method of reading him is completely off.

Doing little is a losing strategy when the game is almost over. If you're going to replace in to a game where being eliminated means probably losing, either work for it or don't replace in. Though I must admit my thoughts were colored slightly by how the PyP game I was modding went. DrDolittle was scum in that one and also did little near the end...

Happy now?? I SAID THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY AND WE SHOULD NO ELIMINATE. You -on the other hand- decided to go against the odds. This is probably the first time I see you play against logic! If we didn't eliminate we would have been @ 2-2-1 today and another no elimination could have won us the game, or -if we take Dunn on his word- we would have been @ 1-1-1 next = DRAW

I am not blaming you per se, but I'm for sure asking you to trust me mechanical solve when I have one, and especially so in an open setup.

GG Wolves

[Almost50]

A50 was correct mechanically but wrong on every other instances

Not "every" other instance though. I had N_M as Town. I had dave as Town. And I had SC as Scum from the get go. That is THREE correct reads. THREE. Not one, not two.. THREE.

[Almost50]

Of course I would have had more hits if I gad called everyone Town (or even called everyone SCUM)