Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[PenguinPower]

i'm talking abt the aff and implo wagons tho?

also i stole ur pagetop!

~ skitteR

I will park vote you for this brazenness alone.

[PenguinPower]

Also - i guess i don’t understand

[PenguinPower]

what part don't u understand?

we've been stagnating on aff/implo for at least 2-3 irl days now, if not longer

~ skitteR

Ok - but how long were we stagnating on the Ben/SS - Implosion wagon prior to that? That’s kinda my point.

AAF went up fast comparatively.

[PenguinPower]

Am I wrong- i might be wrong

[PenguinPower]

I am wrong.

[PenguinPower]

AFF was preceding wagon - then we switched to SS/implo - then we stagnated - then AFF went up fast. I was wrong on the earlier part, not the latter.

[PenguinPower]

rescue me penguin-san

I mean - this is how you get me to vote you.

[PenguinPower]

Learn your honorifics.

[PenguinPower]

wait how is san the wrong honorific

It’s not “wrong” per se, but given context and the state of the game one would assume the use of “sama.”

[PenguinPower]

Nice

[PenguinPower]

ah my apologies Penguin-Sama

May I interest you in voting Implosion?

Votecount 1.14

PookyTheMagicalBear (5) - Petapan, Infinity 324, Implosion, Shirou, Isis
Implosion (3) -

PenguinPower

, seCret hYdra, Schiavetto
Something_Smart (2) - Datisi, Not_Mafia
Petapan (1) - Bridgeburners

Not voting (2) - PookyTheMagicalBear, Something_Smart

(expired on 2021-02-16 15:30:00) remain until day end

Shirou is V/LA through February 18.

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

[PenguinPower]

May I interest you?

[PenguinPower]

Oh boy - what if all the greens are town.

Something to contemplate.

Ngl-bad look for you to get me on a wagon that I was already on that you weren’t on but seemingly thought you were on?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - but had enough presence to try and push me toward a wagon that he wasn’t on.

[PenguinPower]

Oh boy - what if all the greens are town.

Something to contemplate.

Ngl-bad look for you to get me on a wagon that I was already on that you weren’t on but seemingly thought you were on?

I knew I wasn't on the wagon.

I didnt know you were on the wagon because i didnt read the vote count before lobbying for your vote

Riiight - but why are you lobbying for them when you aren’t even on the wagon? That’s the easiest vote to lobby for.

[PenguinPower]

(expired on 2021-02-16 21:31:22)

[PenguinPower]

You aren’t though.

[PenguinPower]

Oh sure ignore my countdown...jerk.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I wanted implosion today so I’m happy to go there tomorrow if you’re town.

[PenguinPower]

You should try. It’s loads of fun as both alignments.

[PenguinPower]

I flip green, you should deadsheep me.

kill ico
kill implo

Uh....ok. You’re making it hard to dead sheep correctly.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - you have to troll correctly. I’ll give you some pointers.

[PenguinPower]

1) Ico

2) Implo

3) Peta or Skitter

1->2->3

you can just ignore me too I won't give a shit who wins this game town hasn't done me any favors either

Oh ok cool.......

[PenguinPower]

Certainly...oh wait...

[PenguinPower]

and there's a good chance he gets wagoned D2 for being right on me when other people are wrong on me.

Does not compute.

[PenguinPower]

^
True

[PenguinPower]

NM is a very very very good player.

I know a lot of people on this site don't think so but I've been scum with him before and I know he's very good at every aspect of the scum game.

His positioning is flawless.

Bit of an oversell but he is better than people give him credit for when he wants to be.

[PenguinPower]

Eh - i don’t think that’s ai.

[PenguinPower]

I....have

[PenguinPower]

Idk - people change. I’m just not going to treat it as AI.

Always skeptical of skitteR and mena (individually) though, so I’ll keep your read in mind.

[PenguinPower]

I’m so confused

[PenguinPower]

Only in the form of gifs.

[PenguinPower]

Or trolling. I will allow twilight trolling as well.

[PenguinPower]

Now

that’s

what I’m talking about.

[PenguinPower]

Feeling is mutually pookyくん。

<3

[PenguinPower]

Mutual gdammit.

[PenguinPower]

i don't want to spam the game enough for this to happen but i really was hoping penguin would stop posting faster than me so i could catch up to his post count enough to quote posts 1068-1070 in reverse order at some point

You’ll have to nk me to stand a chance

[PenguinPower]

I will vig you for this.

You and skitteR are treading on thin ice.

[PenguinPower]

hmmm

[PenguinPower]

no one cares that there was no scum kill last night?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: implosion

[PenguinPower]

no one cares that there was no scum kill last night?

Kind of a weird conclusion to draw with any confidence.

The implication here is that we should be talking about it more. What do you want to say about it?

it was a question...hence the ?

you may add a "does" at the start if you would like.

[PenguinPower]

is it?

[PenguinPower]

hmmm

[PenguinPower]

{Best Bird}

{Not_Mafia, Schiavetto, }

{Bridgeburners, Datisi}

{Something_Smart}

{Petapan, seCret hYdra}

{Isis, Infinity 324}

{Implosion}

{}

[PenguinPower]

me either

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

\o/

[PenguinPower]

I guess I just read the lim and the NK back to back and perceived it as a red and green death for the night
Still isn't there like a 20% chance of no SK?

I don’t understand your point, Isis.

[PenguinPower]

im drunk ama

あんたはマフィアですか？

[PenguinPower]

You said anything....

[PenguinPower]

Yes

[PenguinPower]

PP YOUR CALL WILL BE ANSWERED IN THE ORDER IT WAS RECEIVED

分かりました

[PenguinPower]

私は村です


私は村です

I believe you.

[PenguinPower]

Btw - happy to translate to English any of that for anyone who doesn’t feel like doing so themselves.

[PenguinPower]

From a site rules perspective, there isn’t. And given the prevalence of online translation which I know that Isis used (such as google translate) you can’t really argue it’s cryptography or similar.

I’ve actually used Japanese from time to time since joining the site.

But I did say I would translate if requested.

[PenguinPower]

I just said “are you mafia isis”

And isis said her English bit

and I said “ I understand”

And isis said “I’m town”

And I said “i believe you”

[PenguinPower]

Right - that’s why I said the thing about cryptography or anything along those lines.

Anyway - google translate is pretty accurate people!

[PenguinPower]

Where did you learn Japanese, Pingu?

-QB

My wife.

[PenguinPower]

Why am I scum, implosion?

[PenguinPower]

This whole exchange is somewhat meh.

Peta seems angrier than I remember though.

[PenguinPower]

i mean i'm trying to end it, it's not going anywhere

i agree that he's being angry/emotional in a way that i wouldn't really associate with his towngame

~ skitter

That’s fine. I’m especially not liking implosion’s trajectory on me.

Thoughts?

[PenguinPower]

Hmm - I see the no nk thing. I don’t really know what to think with ss voting during d1 tbh.

I can townbin him for now though the aforementioned is why he’s my null read.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him do that though so why is that townindicative?

[PenguinPower]

Linking a scum game - brave.

[PenguinPower]

Also - PsA - please keep your OPs up-to-date as a mod. Helps players and list mods.

[PenguinPower]

walk me through that vote because i don't see it

[PenguinPower]

I don't think penguin is scum and I can't articulate why

[PenguinPower]

I find it really difficult to believe that one would list N_M as literally top town in this game in particular.

Not even going to comment on the rest because I think it’s pretty weak but pooky literally explained why yesterday.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

pooky was very probably wrong about like everything

So, he was right bout everything is what you are saying?

[PenguinPower]

i'm fascinated that i have played weird this game

You have kinda though.

[PenguinPower]

oh nice pooky's reason for NM being town was also contingent on me being scum. lovely.

It wasn’t though? N_M as scum could have easily gotten away with hammering pooky via established lolhammer meta, so the fact that he didn’t is ++town especially given he’s been playing somewhat more seriously recently.

[PenguinPower]

If he's "playing more seriously" then that's all the more reason to think he wouldn't lolhammer? If he can be pretty damn sure town is dying that day without lolhammering... why would he want to get away with lolhammering pooky

Because not everyone agrees or knows that he’s playing more seriously and it’s just typical for him to lolhammer the first wagon in range...so he could?

Regardless - i think the fact that he voted you is even more ++town for him so....yay

[PenguinPower]

See - this is why i don’t actually do stuff. I missed a damn pagetop responding seriously.

Meh

[PenguinPower]

I will not accept prod dodges.

I love mods who have this rule btw.

[PenguinPower]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[PenguinPower]

Slot’s at the top of my reads but still love the rule

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

{Best Bird}

{Not_Mafia, Schiavetto}

{Bridgeburners, Datisi}

{Something_Smart}

{Petapan, Infinity 324}

{Isis, seCret hYdra}

{Implosion}

{}

[PenguinPower]

why don't you townread peta?

I don’t have a reason to.

[PenguinPower]

Nah - second. Peta unvoted before - you voted right after that unvote.

[PenguinPower]

Not my favorite slot

Still want implosion.

[PenguinPower]

@pp why am i town?

You are nulltown. Because I don't have a reason to think otherwise and not everyone can be scum.

[PenguinPower]

{Best Bird}

{Not_Mafia, Schiavetto}

{Bridgeburners, Datisi}

{Something_Smart}

{Petapan, Infinity 324}

{Isis, seCret hYdra}

{Implosion}

{}

Why is no one in your bottom bracket?

I tried not being so cluttered with all my tiers (also found my old format in my google drive) but

sigh

sure:

{Best Bird}

<-----This is high confidence town

{Not_Mafia, Schiavetto}

<-----This is middle confidence town

{Bridgeburners}

<-----This is low confidence town

{Datisi}

<-----This is nulltown

{Something_Smart}

<-----This is truenull

{Petapan, Infinity 324}

<-----This is nullscum

{Isis, seCret hYdra}

<-----This is low confidence scum

{Implosion}

<-----This is middle confidence scum

{}

<-----This is high confidence scum

The implication being that I don't have a high confidence scum read on anyone atm.

[PenguinPower]

'cuz i don't know if it's true or not.

[PenguinPower]

so like - you are either high confidence town or high confidence scum and idk which

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I don't have any evidence to support the claim either way, but sure, go ahead and tell me more about how I should view your slot.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: seCret hYdra

[PenguinPower]

oh i missed implosion had become the leading wagon

by all means

VOTE: implosion

[PenguinPower]

Hmmm - i thought your trajectory on me felt fake

Hmmm

[PenguinPower]

That’s e-1 there implosion.

[PenguinPower]

Lol - sorry

[PenguinPower]

I shouldn’t have said anything

[PenguinPower]

Not voting is also not interesting.

[PenguinPower]

Hmm

[PenguinPower]

Exactly

[PenguinPower]

‘Twas. I enjoy our conversations.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BB

Vry ntrstng

Why the swap?

[PenguinPower]

Hard disagree

<3

[PenguinPower]

Hard disagree

[PenguinPower]

Skit/mena should never be a <D3 elim

[PenguinPower]

Mine

[PenguinPower]

Oh this is gross and someone is going to die over it

[PenguinPower]

Skit/mena should never be a <D3 elim

They should if they're scum

Sure - if you have a guilty I would change my stance!

[PenguinPower]

If only my bird brain believed you

We did this flashwagon swap yesterday and it turned out vry poorly

[PenguinPower]

So - isis and infinity need to provide more....or mebee they die?

[PenguinPower]

Isis already gave a case?

I'm just sheeping isis or something

Yeah - wut?

You both just went from a wagon that had intent to a wagon that had two votes.

Try again.

[PenguinPower]

Interesting time to do it though.

I mean - you were on the wagon when it was it’s largest instead of pushing you bbscummy read.

[PenguinPower]

Like - oh no, implosion got pushed to nm’s e-1

Flash wagon swap

That’s not natural.

[PenguinPower]

You don’t really care about anything so

Meh

[PenguinPower]

It’s clear that most people don’t care that much about this game or I think we wouldn’t be getting scumread

-QB

Probably not quite true, but this shift is completely suspect and one of isis/infinity/implosion will definitely die.

I hate “i’s”

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: implosion but I wish I loved it

I went to look to see who infinity was voting so I could sheep a townie but I guess it's also implosion so.

how much attention are you paying PP

I’m following the wagons not the words.

One can be faked.

[PenguinPower]

Eh - one is easier to fake.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: implosion but I wish I loved it

I went to look to see who infinity was voting so I could sheep a townie but I guess it's also implosion so.

how much attention are you paying PP

Like you are saying you’re sheeping infinity and infinity is now saying he is sheeping you...do you not see how weird this is given the dynamics?

[PenguinPower]

Why are we saying there is daychat? that is contrary to previous games.

[PenguinPower]

(1) is false and bad

(2) and (3) aren’t

[PenguinPower]

Oh - I was responding to Isis.

there were like 10 seconds between our posts.

[PenguinPower]

It’s in the setup

[PenguinPower]

Link

Mafia Goon
Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner(s), [Player Name] (and [Player Name]).
Abilities:

Factional communication:

During the night phase you may talk with your partner(s) here [QuickTopic link].

Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner(s) may perform the factional kill.
Win condition:

You win when the Mafia obtain a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

[PenguinPower]

Okay, I still think there could be daytalk just bc it’s basically standard now and because in nomx3’s C9++ we had daytalk even tho after checking that setup we technically shouldn’t have had it

-QB

It’s an open game. The setup is known.

[PenguinPower]

Oooh - do i get to yell at t-bone?

[PenguinPower]

Yes...it is? That’s explicit as to the phase in which you can talk in the PT.

[PenguinPower]

Whatever - mod can answer

[PenguinPower]

Good to know for after the game.

[PenguinPower]

Boop

[PenguinPower]

Isn’t it fun how isis, infinity, and S_S all evaporate when asked to substantiate their views

-QB

Mindmeld

[PenguinPower]

UCP > Usergroups > Ban

[PenguinPower]

Not really - it’s called poe.

S_S is a true null slot.

[PenguinPower]

Infinity is probably town though

[PenguinPower]

...i was in that game

[PenguinPower]

Oh - so were you

XD

[PenguinPower]

Maybe I’m turning over a new leaf where I patronise people who are incapable of reading me or unwilling to do so instead of screaming

Hi! I hit that stage around year 2.

[PenguinPower]

So curious as to why this didn’t happen earlier....isis....

[PenguinPower]

So curious as to why this didn’t happen earlier....isis....

what are you asking?

Mainly why the game state was comfortable with an implosion wagon to the point of most people not saying much of anything and then once it became likely for the elimination to be pushed through there is this rush to a new wagon with a lot of discussion about why this should be the wagon and prior desire for it.

Paragraphs upon paragraphs.

Seems like that could have been done previously and the timing is weird....no?

[PenguinPower]

I’ll read responses in the morning. Bedtime.

Gnight.

[PenguinPower]

Grrr

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Uh - wow - i missed a lot for a Sunday.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: PP

VOTE: impl

Mmmm

[PenguinPower]

Pingüino, can i interest you in a schiavetto wagon?

Maybe tomorrow - not today.

[PenguinPower]

I appreciate that you are doing something!

[PenguinPower]

Look at that juicy hammer waiting for you n_m...

[PenguinPower]

hmmm

[PenguinPower]

nah

[PenguinPower]

his clear isn't necessarily a clear so i don't really think it's worth it to look at it too deeply yet.

[PenguinPower]

i just tunneled him because he has a green name. worked out well.

[PenguinPower]

how're you doing today isis?

[PenguinPower]

yes - please out who it was on

[PenguinPower]

i lolclaim

[PenguinPower]

We should play as if two scum are alive since those are the games we have the most risk of losing. Right?

yes

[PenguinPower]

S_S is still true null

[PenguinPower]

i concur

[PenguinPower]

mine

[PenguinPower]

but i already claimed

[PenguinPower]

how does your read on that slot change in a world where datisi wasn't the n1 kill?

[PenguinPower]

Why do we think dats wasn’t the N1 kill?

-QB

might have been saved by infinity but maybe not if there's a jk

[PenguinPower]

^
yeah - that.

i don't like your reasoning for the nm yeet anyway

[PenguinPower]

ooooh

i can be nm

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: secret hydra

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: secret hydra

talk to me? why are we scum?

why is my case on BB bad? Why is theirs good?

-seCret

What case on BB?

[PenguinPower]

S_s - who you want to vote right now?

[PenguinPower]

What type of sandwich

[PenguinPower]

wh are you voting sechyd, pp?

There was no other wagon except for BB at the time and I wanted to see what happened instead of hammering BB.

+

deadsheeping (it worked on implosion!)

[PenguinPower]

yeah - i don't like the nm push.

need more skitteR tbh.

[PenguinPower]

deadsheeping has been correct so far

alive sheeping is unproven

[PenguinPower]

how about this. I set a time for one hour and place a vote on BB - if NM hammers during that time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

if he doesn't - i remove my vote.

if you're right, YAY!

if you're wrong, DEAD!

fair?

[PenguinPower]

how about this. I set a time for one hour and place a vote on BB - if NM hammers during that time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

if he doesn't - i remove my vote.

if you're right, YAY!

if you're wrong, DEAD!

fair?

I don’t really understand the proposition

-QB

basically we roll the dice as to if nm comes online during that hour. if he does and you flip town i deathtunnel dats. if nm doesn't come online, i remove my vote and meme for the rest of the day while voting the hydra.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

I’ve been pretty towny this entire game

[PenguinPower]

No comment on my proposition?

[PenguinPower]

Hmmm

[PenguinPower]

Oh, btw, the sandwich sounded great - sorry you burned it

[PenguinPower]

I wasn’t asking for your comment

And - i said that i would deathtunnel dats soooooo?

[PenguinPower]

^
Did not intend for that to come across as antagonistic.

[PenguinPower]

Oof

[PenguinPower]

I was talking to dats?

[PenguinPower]

Heard on the second part.

[PenguinPower]

Why aren’t you voting?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: datisi

[PenguinPower]

NM

Ah - so your vote is on BB in spirit.

[PenguinPower]

I think schiavetto is scummy

I will say that my townread has dropped a shade of green, yes.

[PenguinPower]

go ahead, vote me
you can't ungrab my pagetop
actually wait shit no you can
huhhhh

Thank you for acknowledging this penguin’s power.

VOTE: hydra

[PenguinPower]

oh boy

the longer nm is away the more the urge to lolhammer rises.

[PenguinPower]

why is there a wagon on secyd,

deadsheeping has been profitable.

[PenguinPower]

oh sorry - you're right

serial killers are bad elims

sheesh - we've only had one elim since his and it was on an anti-town faction. that is profitable.

[PenguinPower]

You’re making it too complicated.

deadsheeping is 1/1 in hitting non-town.

[PenguinPower]

boop

[PenguinPower]

beep

[PenguinPower]

beep boop

[PenguinPower]

boop beep

fuck you

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

ooh - that the new challenge?

[PenguinPower]

because i can post in all locked threads.

[PenguinPower]

not that i would abuse this power

[PenguinPower]

brb asking cakez for thread perms

- hYdra

he has to go through a listmod to grant them

[PenguinPower]

brb asking cakez for thread perms

- hYdra

he has to go through a listmod to grant them

you're not the open listmod my guy

- hYdra

but i am the best



also - i used to be and still have privileges.

[PenguinPower]

mine dammit

[PenguinPower]

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH