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In post 38, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Ich/Datisi scum team
Explain.In post 42, T3 wrote:
lolscumIn post 37, Ich Troje wrote:I propose that the stronger town players stay in game even if its apparant they are probably town so they can be the ones to leave in an endgame situation where we need to be careful-
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The latter can't be known until post game. I meant high impact players who are valuable tools to town when alive. Such as Pooky/Skitter.In post 46, Vulture wrote:
Ich, did you mean strong play as a whole when town or strong town performance this game alone?In post 45, Vulture wrote:I wonder what constitutes a strong town player.-
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High impact scum who still need to convince another town player to trust fall with them.In post 54, Vulture wrote:
It amuses me we both used the word impact. However, I find this to be unhelpful to suggest early on given the fact that they could be high impact scum.In post 50, Ich Troje wrote:
The latter can't be known until post game. I meant high impact players who are valuable tools to town when alive. Such as Pooky/Skitter.In post 46, Vulture wrote:
Ich, did you mean strong play as a whole when town or strong town performance this game alone?In post 45, Vulture wrote:I wonder what constitutes a strong town player.-
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well there's an issue when you just yeet away a pairing like skitter+pooky early on is what I meant never was supposed to be a strict ruling, more of "try to find outside if possible" if u understand?In post 62, Vulture wrote:
They do. However, I’d rather just have towny people go as we become sure of pairings and stay away from the order being based off of a hierarchy of impact.In post 56, Ich Troje wrote:
High impact scum who still need to convince another town player to trust fall with them.In post 54, Vulture wrote:
It amuses me we both used the word impact. However, I find this to be unhelpful to suggest early on given the fact that they could be high impact scum.In post 50, Ich Troje wrote:
The latter can't be known until post game. I meant high impact players who are valuable tools to town when alive. Such as Pooky/Skitter.In post 46, Vulture wrote:
Ich, did you mean strong play as a whole when town or strong town performance this game alone?In post 45, Vulture wrote:I wonder what constitutes a strong town player.-
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That was my plan initially but I realized quickly how stupid that was and just PoEing people into never-pairings is much more effective.In post 78, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:currently my plan is to make Ich/Dats trust each other so if they r S/S the game is over and if they are T/T then I get to look for other baddies
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I am saying I am currently not townreading datisi and would rather not just shove through a trustfall bc of pooky's page 1 vibesIn post 92, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Are you saying you're town and Dats is scum?In post 86, Ich Troje wrote:I understand that's something scum are scared of but then like how often do you actually solve 2/2 and then oops you give scum a free trustfall-
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I dont believe you're capable of accepting here so (:In post 273, Something_Smart wrote:
Trusted mechanics wise, as in someone offering to fall in with you. The assumption here is that if you push me to accept T3, and I do it and he's scum, then you come out looking terrible.In post 271, Ich Troje wrote:That's implying i had trust in the first place.-
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Meaning people who we don't let trust pair anyoneIn post 254, Almost50 wrote:
What's your definition of "never-pairings" here?In post 84, Ich Troje wrote:That was my plan initially but I realized quickly how stupid that was and just PoEing people into never-pairings is much more effective.-
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this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
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The part where you want T3 to randomly trust people, as well as the T3/Dats pairing.In post 306, skitter30 wrote:
Which partIn post 301, Ich Troje wrote:
this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
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lmao when u subconsciously slip that you could flip scum >>In post 305, Something_Smart wrote:
On the contrary, if I flip scum (and I will flip first, probably), it just makes it seem like he can't be town.In post 299, Ich Troje wrote:I admit i have no good meta on T3 nor any degree of success of accurately reading them but these bold "would never do as scum"gambits are tbe type of thing he does as scum to their scum buddy to make it seem like they can't be partnered ever here.-
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i dont understand quite whats going on here but this is town a50 im pretty sure based on complexity lmaoIn post 338, Almost50 wrote:How about we all try to TRUST each other (not the mechanic..like really have faith in each other)? I -of course mean the TOWN-ALIGNED players here (and I can foresee someone asking "how do I know everyone else's alignment" which would be a bad interpretation of what I'm saying, so...)
Let's first vote (yes, VOTE( for our towniest reads. Like, I'd vote Vulture & PP. Then we count the votes and see which players have the highest votes. Then the highest player states their top two players they can read well. NOT their top TRs, and NOT their preferred pairing.. the two players they can READ well (might be required to provide a record of some kind). Then they tell us their read on these particular two. This way we know where everybody stands with some reasoning. Like, I TR X because I know how to read X (in my case, my TR on Vulture would be voided although he is my top TR because I do NOT have a record to show I can read him with precision. However, my read on PP should be accounted for because I do have a good -lucky - record reading him).
Prhaps when we've done all that we'd have a much better idea of how to move on than trying to play this individually (as we always do)
So, I'll hold the record:
A50: Vulture + PP
Not voting: Datisi/Ich Troje/PenguinPower/PookyTheMagicalBear/skitter30/Something_Smart/T3/Umlaut/Vulture
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I'm not seeing why people are townreading PP here because it doesn't feel like they've really reached out of either their town or scumrange here. While I *do* see traits I've seen from town PP before I don't think they should be first choice yeeted here because thus far I don't see any real complexity coming from the slot.-
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mans just copied my whole ass strategy smhIn post 359, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well first we decide who to throw in the "never getting trusted" box of 4 people who are most susp.
then we begin pairing off the 6 that aren't in there. We do it by having one person trust each of the other 5
if nothing happens we start actually pairing off pair by pair
and if both scum are in the bottom 4 we win the game.
also nobody in the bottom 4 should get mad and ragepair someone else in the bottom 4
people get mis-read its ok, but if a scumbag escapes this game becomes way harder-
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In post 365, Something_Smart wrote:Idk maybe umlaut?
I don't know why I signed up for this game, I can't read half the plist.
I thus declare ye 2 as trust and trusteeIn post 366, Umlaut wrote:I signed up because the setup sounded interesting but now I have no idea what I'm actually supposed to be doing if I can't try and form wagons
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Who else is town to you at this point?In post 402, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I would sure hate to be eaten by a tiger
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Funny because thats my intended trust target if not pookyIn post 455, Umlaut wrote:I was going to ask if I should put out some more trusts before exiting the game but I think it's not really helpful.
You all should at least strongly consider that maybe T3 is just town. And don't be too confident in Skitter, I've soured on that slot a bit.
Datisi and Skitter are not scum together. (I'm trying to get in the habit of saying things out loud that I think are too obvious to say out loud)
There's not really anyone right now whom I would call a hard townread but I like both Vulture and Ich Troje for town.-
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oh I dunno maybe the fact I was scumreading you at the beginning and that paranoia is still there despite your recent postings making me feel better?In post 464, Something_Smart wrote:Though, this isn't a situation where you should take my word, so I'm not sure why you're asking.
at the very least if you flip scum we can just box out T3 and Dats and probably win.-
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me tooIn post 458, Umlaut wrote:I give my blessing to the Vulture / Ich Troje pairing-
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are you saying this is contradictory?In post 477, Datisi wrote:
?In post 350, Ich Troje wrote:admittedly I'm not as sold on T3/SS solve, it's been degrading since my hard accusation and now I see everyone as scummy
except vulture.
vulture is decidedly not scummy
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what I found scummy is that you aren't towntelling and I don't exactly have reasons to townread you here unless Umlaut flips scum here.
I have a current PoE solve but by no means do I feel confident in 100% it because I respect nearly everyone's scumgames here. If you're town it'll be fine as long as we keep flipping purely town because we can be off by a margin of 2 players with 2 scum alive and still win with a proper 4 person PoE.
Who do you think is scum? You said you think SS+Umlaut are both town - so what is your view of the gamestate here?-
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I cc masonIn post 483, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm literally masons with Best Bird-
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its like thats the type of thing i would personally be like "oh no red flag alert"
just like where i just saw t3 express a townread on me here - don't worry, i noticed, i was just stashing the noticing for a moment like this to pull out - where its trying to cozy up to someone who might be inclined to trust with you.-
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damn not having static reads = scummy now RIP !!In post 549, Almost50 wrote:@skitts: I can't really explain the Vulture TR using words, but -at least- I can now explain the SR on Ich:
In post 347, Ich Troje wrote:i dont understand quite whats going on here but this is town a50 im pretty sure based on complexity lmao
Once pretty sure I was Town, now trying to appeal to people in the PoE (except I declared Vulture to be my top TR way early into D1 that I didn't even know who ws leaving and who would be included in said PoE). Ya feel?In post 536, Ich Troje wrote:except scum are going to be getting desperate after failing to get into a pairing on d1 if they aren't outside the PoE.
you and a50 are fairly consensus PoE by the others. trying to appeal to people within the PoE rather than outside is a pretty decent way for scum to get a trust going there.-
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