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I didn't have one verbalized but it was summarized as "his entrance was a bit towny." Which, as it's after the fact, take with a grain of salt if you want.In post 547, skitter30 wrote:for the pairing to go through scum-you needs to at least do lip-service to the notion of townreading him?
you didn't have a read before on him i think, you can't just go 'trust a50' upon him saying he would pair with you when you don't have an established read on him without that looking incredibly suspicious
If he asked (which to be honest I think he would if he got PP/you or something to go through) I could probably do the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth and then boom, I'm out. It just feels, to me, that there are a myriad of other ways to do 'lip-service' that I'd care for were I scum.-
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meh this is like the closest thing he has to a read on you and i don't think he could have tried to go for an ich/vulture pairing yesterday what with the t3/ss thing lingeringIn post 506, Vulture wrote:This game currently feels like it's a bit brainless for me personally. I dunno how to feel about Ich wanting to leave with me though and it's like, I could go either way on their alignment.
idk i don't think this point is quite so strong @ich as you/him weren't going to be a viable pairing yesterdayShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
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You were alt guessed fairly publicly by s_s and T3 if that factors in.In post 544, Ich Troje wrote:skitter, consider that I have expressed a willingness to pair with vulture and the easy way for them would be to just follow me along(since they do not know my meta here as my identity isn't quite public within this game afaik)<(") | (")>-
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damn not having static reads = scummy now RIP !!In post 549, Almost50 wrote:@skitts: I can't really explain the Vulture TR using words, but -at least- I can now explain the SR on Ich:
In post 347, Ich Troje wrote:i dont understand quite whats going on here but this is town a50 im pretty sure based on complexity lmao
Once pretty sure I was Town, now trying to appeal to people in the PoE (except I declared Vulture to be my top TR way early into D1 that I didn't even know who ws leaving and who would be included in said PoE). Ya feel?In post 536, Ich Troje wrote:except scum are going to be getting desperate after failing to get into a pairing on d1 if they aren't outside the PoE.
you and a50 are fairly consensus PoE by the others. trying to appeal to people within the PoE rather than outside is a pretty decent way for scum to get a trust going there.-
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@skitter: I am a bit confused. Are distrusting me, Vulture, or both?
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thanks i appreciate your explanationIn post 549, Almost50 wrote:Once pretty sure I was Town, now trying to appeal to people in the PoE (except I declared Vulture to be my top TR way early into D1 that I didn't even know who ws leaving and who would be included in said PoE). Ya feel?
against the bit that i don't understand is that i think he still townreads you in the second quote, he's just saying that *other peopel* poe read you and is thus assessing the gamestate from thereShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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i am afraid i am going to have to take that read with a grain of saltIn post 551, Vulture wrote:
I didn't have one verbalized but it was summarized as "his entrance was a bit towny." Which, as it's after the fact, take with a grain of salt if you want.In post 547, skitter30 wrote:for the pairing to go through scum-you needs to at least do lip-service to the notion of townreading him?
you didn't have a read before on him i think, you can't just go 'trust a50' upon him saying he would pair with you when you don't have an established read on him without that looking incredibly suspicious
If he asked (which to be honest I think he would if he got PP/you or something to go through) I could probably do the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth and then boom, I'm out. It just feels, to me, that there are a myriad of other ways to do 'lip-service' that I'd care for were I scum.
i'm not sure what the difference is between 'doing the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth' and how you explained your townread on him 2 pages ago
like from my pov you kinda did exactly what you're saying scum-you would do to take that pairing?
like yeah he didn't ask yet but he's indicating he's willing to?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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i'm distrusting vultureIn post 556, Almost50 wrote:@skitter: I am a bit confused. Are distrusting me, Vulture, or both?
i'm townreading-ish you. there's some people i would want to leave before you
but i definitely don't scumread youShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Reread his follow up posts.In post 558, skitter30 wrote:against the bit that i don't understand is that i think he still townreads you in the second quote, he's just saying that *other peopel* poe read you and is thus assessing the gamestate from there
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Fair enough.In post 560, skitter30 wrote:
i am afraid i am going to have to take that read with a grain of saltIn post 551, Vulture wrote:
I didn't have one verbalized but it was summarized as "his entrance was a bit towny." Which, as it's after the fact, take with a grain of salt if you want.In post 547, skitter30 wrote:for the pairing to go through scum-you needs to at least do lip-service to the notion of townreading him?
you didn't have a read before on him i think, you can't just go 'trust a50' upon him saying he would pair with you when you don't have an established read on him without that looking incredibly suspicious
If he asked (which to be honest I think he would if he got PP/you or something to go through) I could probably do the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth and then boom, I'm out. It just feels, to me, that there are a myriad of other ways to do 'lip-service' that I'd care for were I scum.
i'm not sure what the difference is between 'doing the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth' and how you explained your townread on him 2 pages ago
like from my pov you kinda did exactly what you're saying scum-you would do to take that pairing?
like yeah he didn't ask yet but he's indicating he's willing to?
To me, the difference is "I slip it in at a time when people are less likely to question it" over "Oh, I like this, let me ring it out." Perhaps the miscommunication is that I do bare minimum as subtle and my expression of read earlier as not, which isn't bare minimum.
He is willing to but I'm equally unwilling to do so unless people are fine with it. Which again, grain of salt, but my individual want doesn't seem as important as everyone chiming in.-
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Would you be upset if I trusted Vulture and left now regardless of the flips? Or would you only be upset if it turns out one of us is red??In post 561, skitter30 wrote:
i'm distrusting vultureIn post 556, Almost50 wrote:@skitter: I am a bit confused. Are distrusting me, Vulture, or both?
i'm townreading-ish you. there's some people i would want to leave before you
but i definitely don't scumread you
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@a50 are you talking abt this post? otherwise i'm not sure what you're referring toIn post 530, Ich Troje wrote:a50 lowkey rushing to pair with a person who townreads them but trying to not seem as though they are, how quaint.
this read is baseless (vulture wasn't townreading you) and i'm not even sure it implies a scumread on you
pedit nm apparently it does
i don't find this progression to be scummy tho, and i'm not sure i understand why you doShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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ok thanks, i appreciate the explanation and i see what you meanIn post 563, Vulture wrote:To me, the difference is "I slip it in at a time when people are less likely to question it" over "Oh, I like this, let me ring it out." Perhaps the miscommunication is that I do bare minimum as subtle and my expression of read earlier as not, which isn't bare minimum.
He is willing to but I'm equally unwilling to do so unless people are fine with it. Which again, grain of salt, but my individual want doesn't seem as important as everyone chiming in.
i guess i'm still dubious that scum wouldn't reciprocate a read when all they need to do is get the one townie to trust them and he was p willing to
like i get that you're saying you'd be more subtle but idk scum don't always play perfectly and i think that while it would have been *ideal* to be more subtle as scum i think the natural reaction as scum there is sort of exactly what you didShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Fuck it. I'd rather be wrong now than wait to see it happen on -the equivalent of- Elo.
TRUST: Vulture
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@skitts: Sorry, but I am overly frustrated right now. (It won't be hard for you to find out why if you wanted to)
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