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huh?In post 24, MegAzumarill wrote:Everything I see this game I'm like " ah yes, the one with the serial killer"
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cuz there was already a vote thereIn post 33, Vex Vience wrote:@anyone who voted yeet - mind explaining why you rvs voted yeet
i'd rather not have the game stall out in rvs, so i'm gonna get it started with this
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bella's vote didn't strike me as totally random.In post 40, Vex Vience wrote:because none of the votes up until dv/stranger felt serious in any capacity?-
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the pressure is crushing meIn post 45, Stranger wrote:In post 41, Vex Vience wrote:thinking about it some more - dv/stranger - what are you seeing in bulge?
My vote was for this. DV’s was the catalyst to go look at Bulge.In post 26, The Bulge wrote:
huh?In post 24, MegAzumarill wrote:Everything I see this game I'm like " ah yes, the one with the serial killer"
Anyone have a clue why
It’s not a lot (saying huh to something irrelevant would normally be nothing at all, frankly) but it’s something pressure-wise, when this game’s quiet.-
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any thoughts on mala so far?In post 49, Stranger wrote:-
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agree on whatIn post 65, Save The Dragons wrote:i agree with others re: bulge but it's not really a strong read-
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getting small pings of tmi on my slot from this.In post 82, Vex Vience wrote:1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to not quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.-
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i dont like this response at all, its vague, feels very dismissive, almost gaslight-y lol like yeesh ok sorry for disturbing the narrative that i provided no content early on. blahIn post 89, Vex Vience wrote:
i can't tell if ur being serious about this, and if you are being serious, i want you to re-evaluate where your head is at currently, because it's not rightIn post 85, The Bulge wrote:also the assertion i havent provided game related content is absurd. i have asked more game-relevant questions than probably anyone. and nobody is trying to engage with me, on or off wagon. feels like my wagon is nothing more than a device for scum to get past a slow-moving D1.-
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number 1 especially seems to presume that I am town. also the whole post is just kinda unnecessary and comes off looking like you're trying to prove you have townie thought processes.In post 90, Vex Vience wrote:
what about this is tmi as well?In post 84, The Bulge wrote:
getting small pings of tmi on my slot from this.In post 82, Vex Vience wrote:1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to not quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.-
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i hadn't followed that train of thought very far and was townleaning my wagoners for the most part. mala was an independent read, something I maybe wanted to pursue later, but here posts since then are ok and made me lol.In post 100, DeasVail wrote: A question I do have for the bulge atm though is, if you think your wagon is a device for scum, why vote Mala, who was not involved with the wagon?-
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i cannot stress how little i care to engage w this, my point is the framing of your initial vote for me was bs.In post 155, Vex Vience wrote:
ok let's look at all the questions that have been asked since post 0 all the way up to post 89 in this thread from me and you, and we'll let everyone else decide if you've provided more game-relevant questions up to the point you asked that, or if i have.In post 150, The Bulge wrote:
i dont like this response at all, its vague, feels very dismissive, almost gaslight-y lol like yeesh ok sorry for disturbing the narrative that i provided no content early on. blahIn post 89, Vex Vience wrote:
i can't tell if ur being serious about this, and if you are being serious, i want you to re-evaluate where your head is at currently, because it's not rightIn post 85, The Bulge wrote:also the assertion i havent provided game related content is absurd. i have asked more game-relevant questions than probably anyone. and nobody is trying to engage with me, on or off wagon. feels like my wagon is nothing more than a device for scum to get past a slow-moving D1.
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are you saying that when you made that post you specifically meant scenario 1 to be town!bulge and scenario 2 is scum!bulge?In post 156, Vex Vience wrote:
wow, it's almost like there are two options for what you flip in this game: town or scum.In post 151, The Bulge wrote:
number 1 especially seems to presume that I am town. also the whole post is just kinda unnecessary and comes off looking like you're trying to prove you have townie thought processes.In post 90, Vex Vience wrote:
what about this is tmi as well?In post 84, The Bulge wrote:
getting small pings of tmi on my slot from this.In post 82, Vex Vience wrote:1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to not quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.
and wow, it's almost like in those two options i provided, there's one scenario where you flip town and one where it's debatable what you flip.
do you have anything else you wanna deeply read into and not actually provide anything useful from?-
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In post 167, Vex Vience wrote:for sake of my sanity too, i’m just going to ignore bulge. bulge is blatantly acting scummy and interacting *solely* with me. we need to pick someone to kill since deadline is soon, and i genuinely think it’s bulge here.
lmfaoIn post 194, Vex Vience wrote:titus - read bulge's stuff and tell me if you think bulge is genuinely town, because right now, it makes you look like scum since i'm utterly convinced bulge has to be scum.-
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idk what any of this meansIn post 179, Stranger wrote:VOTE: The Bulge
Sorry for the absence yesterday.
I don't have a lot to add currently; Bulge at this point seems defensive and bristling at Vex and Vex alone (with a smidge of StD), it feels disproportionate to the things being asked/said. That feels... vague to say or maybe unfair because this game right now feels very... directionless and Bulge probably doesn't feel like that, but I'm unsure how else to get a direction going. Claim, I guess?
Small note is that 152 feels a lot less... angered, irritated, than the replies to Vex. I don't know. Reconciliatory towards DV's question, on the offensive elsewhere and after.-
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In post 205, Titus wrote:
How about looking at the context and seeing Vex's response was very bad and therefore Bulge's focus makes sense. I'd prefer if he townhunted more sure but I've tunneled like that in the past.In post 204, Stranger wrote:In less words it’s just that you seem fixated most on Vex this game and going all in there with an aggression that doesn’t match what you’ve given to other people. And that FMPOV it didn’t seem to be an appropriate level of it, but... I realize we’re in different places in the game, so I’m unsure if it’s fair to really throw back your feelings at you as reasons you need to die but I don’t know what else to do.-
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why would i give the same energy to players i do not scumread as somebody i do scumread? separate question, why would i react w the same aggression toward someone who is not annoying me as someone who is? like it just isnt logical, and on top of that i dont understand what your point is in pointing that all out?In post 204, Stranger wrote:
This isn’t a condescending “really?” but more of a... really? With a squint.In post 198, The Bulge wrote:
idk what any of this meansIn post 179, Stranger wrote:VOTE: The Bulge
Sorry for the absence yesterday.
I don't have a lot to add currently; Bulge at this point seems defensive and bristling at Vex and Vex alone (with a smidge of StD), it feels disproportionate to the things being asked/said. That feels... vague to say or maybe unfair because this game right now feels very... directionless and Bulge probably doesn't feel like that, but I'm unsure how else to get a direction going. Claim, I guess?
Small note is that 152 feels a lot less... angered, irritated, than the replies to Vex. I don't know. Reconciliatory towards DV's question, on the offensive elsewhere and after.
In less words it’s just that you seem fixated most on Vex this game and going all in there with an aggression that doesn’t match what you’ve given to other people. And that FMPOV it didn’t seem to be an appropriate level of it, but... I realize we’re in different places in the game, so I’m unsure if it’s fair to really throw back your feelings at you as reasons you need to die but I don’t know what else to do.
so there's a lot of words in these two posts but im not sure what it is you think you've found?-
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whats this aboutIn post 179, Stranger wrote:(with a smidge of StD),-
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like idk who i can even appeal to atp, hopefully dv is around and contributes before DL?In post 220, The Bulge wrote:meg and titus are my only townreads and also the only people seeing my side of things lmao so i think i might just be dead here.-
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????????????????????????????In post 224, Vex Vience wrote:@bulge we’re expecting your role and unless you claim friendly neighbor, who you’re in a hood with-
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its a simple y/nIn post 164, The Bulge wrote:are you saying that when you made that post you specifically meant scenario 1 to be town!bulge and scenario 2 is scum!bulge?-
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why is thatIn post 233, Save The Dragons wrote:im worried but would rather do you at this point-
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i mean honestly if I'm still the lim today then so be it, sloppy miselims make D1 a content goldmine. and if the scumteams whole play is weaponized petulance then I have every faith we still pull a W. i'm not really all that frustrated rn (at least not nearly as frustrated as im known to get on here sometimes lol-
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what i think titus means by scum making noise, and i only assume this because it's how i see it, is that in a game with nothing going on, it's hard for anyone (town or scum) to make anything stick, or to really follow through w anything. now the difference is in the motivation to do a thing. townies in a dead/very slow game will be kicked into action when somebody does or says something scummy. easy. but scummos will kick into actionIn post 243, Stranger wrote:Mmm.
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I share similar concerns over the sudden reappearance but get it. It sucks to be in a game like this under pressure and no one really does anything else.
To me, I find it very... confusing, why Vex goes to the lengths of this push as scum because it really isn’t necessary in this game. Maybe it’s a bit more needed now because there’s more defense on Bulge but... there’s a general sentiment of “eh sure why not” which means Vex could do a lot less and burn a lot less credit tomorrow on a town flip. It doesn’t feel necessary tocare.
Similarly I think characterizing this as scum making noise, as Titus did, is... a weird way to characterize this game, because it’s not really noisy, it’s slow and apathetic.when they see an opportunity. yours and std's votes for me were fine, whatever, nothing to say about that, its just the flow of the early game. but vex's initial hop onto my wagon had a completely mde up reason. vex saw an opportunity to get the ball rolling towards a miselim, and obviously any scum needs help from a group of misguided townies to push any miselim through. this is where the noise comes in. vex didnt start pushing me because i had done anything particularly scummy, they started pushing me because it was an opportunity to steer the game in a favourable direction.-
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yes lol the role fishing thing was a jokeIn post 245, Stranger wrote:In post 217, The Bulge wrote:like "bulge is suspicious of and irritated by this one specific player...and is not acting suspicious or irritated towards this other player...and i think that is because ____________"
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Going to squish these together. The StD thing was just where you I think (?) jested about StD role fishing but I put it as a smidge just in case.In post 218, The Bulge wrote:stranger are you townreading vex? if so why? do you think their push vs me comes from a townie mindset?
And for me, feelings like irritation especially are very... all encompassing I guess? To me I don’t treat my townreads and scumreads differently if I am annoyed or frustrated and I don’t really zero in on just one so to see you do that to one person is unsettling, because I think you were really just... going all in on them from memory, and narrow focusing in a way I felt just didn’t make... a lot of sense to me.
I’ll reread when I’m home in a bit and see if I come to the same conclusions but Bulge, who do you think is with Vex?
what im getting from this is that we are different people who experience emotions differently, mhm?
mala and bella are both playing from the sidelines. if im wrong about vex it could just be both of them, happy to sit back and watch this TvT. but im thinking probably one of them, unable to join vex's crusade for fear of incriminating themselves via blatant association, and without anything else really going on in the game to focus on instead.
oh i am plenty miffed, just not toward std. and overall today its been more of a chuckle-and-an-eyeroll miffed compared to some other games where my blood has been rightly boiled.In post 246, Stranger wrote:Also sorry if I’m reading your emotions wrong but it does come across as pretty miffed at times...-
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if we're talking ROLEFISHING tho........In post 251, The Bulge wrote:yes lol the role fishing thing was a joke
how about bottom of page 9 where vex asked me to CLAIM MY HOOD PARTNER
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interested in your thought process hereIn post 349, Vex Vience wrote:so, thought right here - the last scum is probably within the surviving hood, right?-
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yea that's what i was saying, an inno result is sent to the fn's target so a claim could come from either orIn post 356, Stranger wrote:I believe that the only inno we would have would be the FN.-
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