Open 873: PYP: Anime Music & Memes - Game Over!

[Bell]

How can there be 9 pages and I checked if this was open like 4 hours ago.

[Bell]

VOTE: Taly

FOS: NOTTY.

*Petapan numbers speculation*
I just picked 2 to the 10th power.

[Bell]

I also scumread notty without elaborating

Your response to Taly sucked.

[Bell]

You called them boring instead of obvious frozen scum.

[Bell]

[Bell]

Bell how many townreads do you have?

Like 3, vaguely.
Peta maybe sort of. LLD maybe sort of.
I forgot who the third one was. Luke kind of, but kind of not.

[Bell]

They should just be bullshit based on your innocence right

Stake your position or something

i think you misunderstand

we're not entertaining other people's reads

because

they're true, we're discerning the motivation despite internal dissonance

interesting that the two most suspected slots were also the first slots to have semi-serious convo

vicky

I feel like if this were true you wouldn't have voted me without asking me anything.

[Bell]

/:

[Bell]

I voted unwnd because I felt like everything was boring. I wanted to place down a vote there mostly as a reminder to myself, because at that time I felt like he was the cause for the boringness. His only interesting quality was his meters, and those were so boring too!
I don't remember playing with unwnd alot, all i remember is one game where he was super serious and hating on me cuz i was actually trying!!! So I was expecting unwnd out of everyone to be trying to push us into serious mode, but it didn't really seem like he was trying to do that!
But now I find his luke stuff so funny I want to see more of it!!

I don't like notty still but thats because the "rude" he says whenever someone is susing him is just him trying to appear unaffected by it. I feel like it actually bothers him a great deal but hes just kinda letting it happen hes complaining but I don't really think hes trying too hard to dig into peoples reasonings, hes acting like its on us but!! same energy!!! if you dont care about the reasonings enough to ask why do ppl need to care enough to share

Cephrir made me on alert too, because his consoling me felt buddylike and his further "whoevers still questioning marci is roads behind" or whatever that was also felt
like idk about yall but i think if anyone wants to question me still its very valid and im not as townie as yall are making urselves believe.

I dont know what the hell u guys are seeing in kingtroll but yall are blind af, the points yall are pushing on them seem perfectlly normal to me,
"Three wolves to find, I understand, so we've got this in the bag. I am not a wolf, so that's already one step closer we all are!"
the wording on this felt weird though, but im pretty sure i just hate people calling themselves town... otherwise they seemed fine tho..? I want to see more from them.

I don't know why anyone would think you're town yet.

[Bell]

STD has a small point.
I dismissed it as ribbing, experimenting, and not full-throated.
But they never returned to character.

[Bell]

Not the face.

[Bell]

Sure.
Twice I have caught scum who called their partners boring instead of scum. Simple, boring, I know. It's just honest to goodness excuse not to put fire on them. I Also find it slightly weird that Notty put that much effort into controlling for a player's idiosyncracies this early in the game. Also they keep trying to manipulate people's feelings to get off of them and that rubs me bad. *Thumbs down*
Last game I was in Taly was either meltdowning or efforting. I think I just carry my suspicions from game to game without any reason or logic.

I don't scum read Marci, I just don't town read them. They're always kind of weird, fake, and survivory when they play mafia. So it's pretty hard to read them.

[Bell]

Actually bell is kinda interesting too as his take on the taly situation is kinda ass too

*kicks Notty*

[Bell]

Controlling for idiosyncracies means to remove a variable that is irrelevant to their alignment.

[Bell]

The one in which they post kind of the same in every early game. Or whatever your justification was for watering down your read.

[Bell]

So you're saying you went out to meta them to find reasons to town read them and not to reduce the chances of making a mistake in scum reading them even though you said you began with a scum read on them.

[Bell]

You don't even know what a control is *slap*

[Bell]

*throws up hands*
*Leaves*

[Bell]

Bell, I feel like you are not meeting my expected quota of slots you have gone up to and just poked with a stick.

What are you doing? Are you that sure that Taly+Notty are scum? or?

No of course I'm not sure.
I'm shit posting and chewing on people's posts and sometimes I'm chewing and shrugging cause I can't reach a conclusion
I'm chewing on Dunnstral's selectivity, but I'm not going to do anything with it.
I'm chewing on whether I should start voting Grayice. But I don't wanna yet.
I'm chewing on STD's posts and sort of getting a very weak and slight TL there, but I'm not sure if I should actually be thinking that way.
I'm chewing on whether UNwnd has a point about you, I've grappled with super special tells on you before and shrugged. Your wording about having someone else solve the game for you is distinctly not you, in that in my opinion you're here so that you can solve the game not someone else. But ultimately, I don't think the super special word is fitting with your overall approach. You're not actually sitting around and waiting for others to solve. There's some level of argument to made that you're trying to ingratiate yourself with players that might be a problem for you, but I'm not sure how you'd actually approach that.

[Bell]

....You were reaction testing?

[Bell]

Okay asking basic questions is not reaction testing.
Unless at some point you started making posts to incite people, but I didn't see much of that.

[Bell]

Okay asking basic questions is not reaction testing.
Unless at some point you started making posts to incite people, but I didn't see much of that.

It seems our system has an inherent difference in mafia philosophy from you.

Gaia

Or I'm just scum,
who will never change their mind because they aren't interested in anything but a town death.

[Bell]

What if, and follow me here, I was just making an observation and my plan was not to bait you.

[Bell]

I throw snowcones as town, but in general I don't try to bait people into making mistakes very often and when I do it's usually on a strictly mechanical basis where a misstep would probably point to them being scum.
Uh. I don't know if I've ever tried to bait someone as scum before.

[Bell]

I do.
I think they're tired.

[Bell]

bell, you're not convincing me that this was an observation

you casted shade on us and someone we had a mutual clash with, (

notty

), 214 219, and when we vote you:
- justify your vote when we voted you in return (in part to get you to talk about the misread) 274
- you lead into a prejudice from previous games 383

and you hardly interact with the notty FOS, which reads like an easy pivot point, pooch

vicky

Your mutual clash was them announcing that you were boring instead of scum based on them reviewing other early game states of you.
Yes, it's fascinating that I've deliberately chosen to discredit myself. I can see why you would think that's scummy.
I don't think I understand your pivot point argument probably because you and I have different definitions of pivot. Unless you're arguing that my plan was to vote you and if I changed my mind I could vote Notty instead, but the crux of my argument was that you were both scum. I interacted with Notty more than anyone else in the game. So that's objectively wrong. I do understand roughly based on prior observations that you can be acerbic and inaccurate with your statements as either alignment. So I'm just going to not fixate too hard on the accuracy of your statements and focus more on your feels instead.

[Bell]

It was an observation though, it was an observation that you lacked curiosity about my alignment.

[Bell]

Do you have a hammer and a loony toons setting for severe head injuries?

[Bell]

Like I see posts such as #470 and I think 'Bell would never format his response that way' something something but it's all just

Whatever

I would like to make one(1) confused noise please.
That was me, formatting my response, as town. Well sure though, pattern brain work. Believable. Too weird to be a scum way of expressing interest in terms of peer pressure or what's the word, groupthink. Nor does it really fit with opportunism.

[Bell]

I'm gonna be blunt myself first:

Do you think I'm a sap who is easily pocketed? I'd like some sort of self-defense that you

wouldn't

just be offering your hand if it meant furthering scum wincon. There's a lot of social preference with your game here and I think you've explained it enough. I'm not discouraging you and I think everything you've said so far I can only respond 'fair enough' and 'that's reasonable'.

However, I think some healthy paranoia does people good. I'm surprised there isn't any sense of paranoia from you in regard to me (or elsewhere)

Yes.

[Bell]

I guess you're just a sap forever.
Enjoy being pocketed by anyone that looks at you with kind, simmery eyes.

[Bell]

I am being tongue and cheek here.
I don't truly have much reason to think you're scum this game though. It doesn't really fit with anything resembling a plan.
I guess you could say your plan is to appear self-aware and cautious as scum, but like. That's weird.

[Bell]

My current feelings about LLD amount to that it makes me uncomfortable that they're asking you to marry them when they haven't even bought you dinner first.
It's got nothing to do with their alignment. My generic brain thought is that boundary busting is fairly uniquely town and tends to back fire. But you said yourself they're being careful to come off as reasonable. Not to mention, it's LLD. I don't think boundary busting applies in the same way it would if it were someone like me doing it.
They're also just asking typical LLD questions when they're feeling okay about their day. So I don't see anything other than weak town pings from that angle.

[Bell]

I feel that coming off cautious as scum is boring.
I hope you aren't doing that.
Don't be boring. Don't be me.

[Bell]

I don't know. I'm pretty much playing as myself.
I did delete a few "If I were scum I wouldn't be doing this" posts.
and I don't have a notes PT. I'm spending too much time in this game as it is tbh. I have comments to write for school introductions and responses to responses on poverty. ~_~

[Bell]

Based on vague memory, he usually says I'm sorry you don't see it this way whenever I scum read them as town when they're town. But deep down they're prickly.
Also, I think you're missing the ego thing.
He doesn't and I don't think anyone thinks that anyone here can read anyone else here with 100% accuracy.
In fact his next post will probably be amounting to how dare you say you can read me.

[Bell]

I'm pretty used to Unwnd having a power hour of navel gazing and conduct analysis per game when they're town. I don't really think it's the same and their tone isn't quite as hapazard or maybe better put they aren't coming off as overly cloistered nor overly friendly. It's a nice balance if they're scum.

Cephrir, you're your own category of read. I certainly don't try to apply how I try to read you to others. Because you have a very particular shtick.
I pretend to be cautious as scum but my self-awareness gets dialed down slightly. But nuance. Also unrelated to this game I think.

[Bell]

I don't find it strange I was uncomfortable with LLD's forwardness from over here. The analysis they have of their approach and a genuine self-conscious "do you really think I'm this much of a sucker if you're scum here LLD?" as a kind of ghost poke makes decent sense to me.

On the other hand, I'm very confused at all times.

[Bell]

It does reflect really poorly on kingtroll that they didn’t read the set up prior to the set up.
Can you imagine?

[Bell]

*prior to the game starting.

Also I have a flat tire because random roadside tac lodged into my rear left wheel and I hate this.

[Bell]

VOTE: KT

[Bell]

VOTE: KT

Hello! Anything specific I've said that makes you think I'm a wolf?

No, not particularly!

[Bell]

VOTE: KT

Hello! Anything specific I've said that makes you think I'm a wolf?

omg you are too friendly for this world

Really? I hear similarly worded responses in like 1 out of 8 votes I make.

[Bell]

bell are you a self aware player

I feel like you should know the answer is yes by now.
But yes, very much so.

[Bell]

All the time.
This may have something to do with how I vote people.

Nahhhh.

[Bell]

Also, half the time they have barely simmering rage underneath and it’s the friendly smile while they sharpen their knives and plot my demise approach.

*how dare* you vote me and so on and so forth.
But then they cover it up with flowers and hairspray.

[Bell]

I think I feel okayish about unwnd and Peta.

Past that, not really but there are definitely people I want to leave alone and let them simmer for a little.

[Bell]

It’s hard though because half the time it’s outraged town and the other half of the time it’s placating scum.
But really it’s more like 10% scum. 90% town.
People are complicated but also numbers and statistics. How do they work.

[Bell]

Oh no I post about what I’d do as scum as town all the time. I towncase myself occasionally. If the circumstances are right.

It’s always there and it’s just one of those it’s good for me to always have one handy as either alignment thingies. But…my scum game sucks so you know.

[Bell]

Bell are you still being a towel or have you seen the light

Slightly. Consider me weakly optimistic but I really shouldn’t be.

It’s Tuesday and Notty’s gotten wagon’d in RVS again. (I know, it’s Monday).

[Bell]

Going to slow down on posting now. Just sitting in my car waiting for my service provider to get here is leaving me all dead inside.

I’m in the middle of the city and it’s taking 75 minutes.

[Bell]

Ceph’s point felt dumb.
But I feel dumb for saying that.
It was odd. Or at least not fully formed in consideration. But it might have been a push or something.

Not something I would expect to see ceph scum say to a buddy. So there’s that down the line. But I don’t really think unwnd is scum anyway.

[Bell]

Why are you voting me LLD

[Bell]

Nope, I totally missed it lol.

Well, it’s wrong just fyi.

[Bell]

Oh, I was worried you were gunna give me a lecture mid game when it’s just my play style to get grumpy at being voted , but also I still have a minor fixation on explaining myself and seeming to become more scummy as town than otherwise.

So it’s like a play style thing, but I’m just hiding it behind my general confusion as to why I get scum read more, the more I tell the truth.

[Bell]

I feel very discouraged you know!

[Bell]

Tire changed work drive time now.
I received a town role pm. And my posting should be better. Since I found some guilt free time to play.

[Bell]

It’s extremely weird. LLD does not go down smooth.

[Bell]

I almost want to just throw my hands up in the air and call you scum for it. If I didn’t know better.

[Bell]

Luke’s attitude is perfectly in line with what I’d expect. It earns maybe half a brownie point.

[Bell]

Luke’s attitude is perfectly in line with what I’d expect. It earns maybe half a brownie point.

Not fully indicative?

Yeah, it’s in line. But I’m not sure what to do with that. They know their own attitude toward being misread. But internal consistency is internal consistency.

[Bell]

Yes. Also if you could put in neon lights your point that’d be appreciated too.

[Bell]

That’s the stuff.

[Bell]

STD needs a hug.

[Bell]

I dunno why STD got all sassy. They’re usually more of a subdued sass. I can’t put an alignment to it.

[Bell]

That’s a fascinating VC right there.

[Bell]

bell

are you gucci, louis, fendi, or prada?

taly

Um. Those are brands of clothing or something right?
I don't know or where any of those, I think.

[Bell]

I feel like what scum greyice gains from hard pushing a town unwnd here is town unwnd being dead

2nd

Let me think on it though

[Bell]

Ngl I keep coming back to Notty and going “I should probably kill him.”

[Bell]

I think ceph is town this game but do not quote me.

Also, still dunno what the Std/unwnd spat was about at all.

[Bell]

Hey, if I knew why I’d ask people to quote me.

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

Like 20%. Something just does not feel right.
Your hustling powers feel like they’re being used for evil.

[Bell]

Survive and not do anything productive of course!

[Bell]

Also, you seem fixated on people’s reasoning this game and that’s weird.
Usually you don’t care too much and just throw your opinions at people.

[Bell]

Ah yes, self meta. One of my most reliable scum tells.
You are being disruptive. You’re harshing my vibes with your negative energy, maaaaaan.

[Bell]

[Bell]

Oh. No. Their reads listicle just felt like scum’s favorite pasttime.

Making listicles for the sheeple.

[Bell]

I only unvoted because the robotic bear is on the fritz again and trying to stab people with a butcher knife.

[Bell]

Ah yes, self meta. One of my most reliable scum tells.
You are being disruptive. You’re harshing my vibes with your negative energy, maaaaaan.

Bell I’ve literally been trying to work with you

*stares*
You haz?

[Bell]

Do I work with anyone.
Do I even work.

[Bell]

I was a joy to work with maybe 3 years ago. But that part hasn’t been true for the last 2 or 3 years now. Now I’m just working parallel to people in mafia games.

Find someone else to work with.
I’m occupied.

[Bell]

I actually find GrayIce’s take over explainy.
But I don’t really recall them being explainy as either alignment. So I dunno what to do with that, if anything. It does bother me though so I guess I lean scum on it.

[Bell]

VOTE: marci

*FOS* troll.

[Bell]

And yet here he is, engaging in that most favored of pastimes.
Posting about posting.

[Bell]

*sniffs deeply*

Hi.

[Bell]

I guess I'm chewing on STD, Marci, and Kingtroll with a side of Notty.
And some slight suspicion of GI and Taly.
And some glimmers.

[Bell]

What do you not like about Notty? Felt like he's town for a minute

I guess I just don't entirely buy that they reviewed a bunch of Taly's early gameplay with the plan to prove their initial scum pings right, I'm sure they're moderately aware of confirmation bias. I guess they could have been flexing, trying to appear considerate and well reasoned/careful. With what they said they found, while sharing that they put in effort and meta dive'd. A sort of weird looking down ur nose thing because you 'researched' somebody.
I'm also a little confused if they got the chronology wrong. It also has slightly to do with I forgot what I was going to say next. Oh well, I'm sure I'll recall it if it's important.

and also they're nagging me to town read them and I hate that

[Bell]

Ah it had to do with some half-assed psychology about people waiting to avoid losses instead of taking risks for gains. I tend to think it's more likely someone goes out of their way to avoid fucking up and losing something than to go out there with a plan to succeed. It felt slightly like Notty was just trying to be contrary with their explanation for no reason other than that, hey he's already lying, might as well try to make it seem like Bell has got him as wrong as possible to look good.

Wow,
I really don't like how I think.

[Bell]

Oh, even though they heavily implied they meta'd them I missed it on first impression and so I thought the chronology was wrong where they never implied it. In other words,
never mind. The rest stands tho. I had already recalled that but my fingers typed on their own probably because I'm just pretty exhausted at this point due to work and school I guess.
Sort of.

[Bell]

Q is STD happier as scum or town?

[Bell]

Hey, STD you can answer this question. Coming from you would be the most reliable, probably.

[Bell]

okay wow so now im not allowed to talk about stuff!! lovely yall wont be hearing from me for awhile then

This is scummy as fuck and completely out of character for Marci the person.

Claim.

[Bell]

im sorry guys i dont have time for relieving all your worries, i've been trying my best with what i can do but theres nothing really i can do when you're all stubborn af.

if you believe im mafia, im mafia but i'm tracker and that fact wont change. vote me out if you want, but be happy knowing you voted out a townie.

ill be busy with a friend for a bit.

What in the world

[Bell]

Yes I too regret my actions on Marci who is now my strongest ever town read and the read will never change,
Ever.

[Bell]

VOTE: Kingtroll

[Bell]

I’m so sorry Marci I don’t know what I was thinking will you forgive me

[Bell]

*stares at the ceiling*

[Bell]

I am seriously town reading Marci now.
I am deadly seriously serious.

[Bell]

I mean, I already strongly town read them now. So you didn’t have to point that out.

I’ll just be over here. Fishing and not doing anything. *releases fish*

[Bell]

One of those people isn’t even Marci!
Ridiculous.

[Bell]

Let's set the record straight Cephrir. Why are you voting for me?

[Bell]

Cool.
Can we flip Marci.

I appreciate them, but like,
Their approach to this game is so wrong headed that I’m not sure where I’d start with them if they aren’t scum.

[Bell]

The best I can really say is that maybe they were ironically posting a caricature of a scum player while town because they don’t like us or the game and would like to exit stage left.
That’s honestly the most generous interpretation I can come up with that isn’t them just being scum this game.

[Bell]

VOTE: Marci

*shrug*

[Bell]

I can't read spoilers on my phone.
I have read the spoilers on my laptop.
Sorry you're having stressful stuff happen Marci!
I..don't really know how the two connect very well though, it's too murky for me to change my approach.
A bad day can effect a scum game just as much and probably more* than a bad day as town.

[Bell]

I actually don't think the specifics would help me understand.
Well, they might, but I really wanna respect the idea that we shouldn't be asking for a confession hour for every blip on the AtE scale.

[Bell]

Anyway, murderin' time please and thank you.

[Bell]

So you think she’s town. I’m okay steeping you if you wanna take responsibility for it.

[Bell]

Sheeping. *

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

While waiting on response.

[Bell]

VOTE: kingtroll

[Bell]

That is basically what I mean. She’s really not being community minded in her play.

But i’m genuinely fine with king troll if Luke is confident In their read on Marci.

I forgot what else I was going to say. Oh well.

[Bell]

she started playing when she copped a few votes and then stopped again

i think this d1 is boring as hell and have no strong opinions but would like to start playing d2

What a strangely townie feeling I get from this sentiment even though there’s no practical reason why I feel that way.

[Bell]

Also this whole thing has HUGE bloodstained day one vibes so we’re all clear it’s sketchy

yarr

someone help my photoshop rick astley's trench coat onto this raccoon

A scum claim has been made.

[Bell]

I feel pretty comfortable with where my votes have been this day phase. Please ignore all my hopping on and off. It’s not actually nervousness just a race to the bottom for king and Marci.

[Bell]

I’m still mad ash just used a bunch of new shit instead of making a super team of all his best.

Elitism. Smh.

[Bell]

Don't track:
Me. I'm doing the NK, don't ruin this for me!
Unwnd.

After that I'm pretty sure I could've fucked up.

[Bell]

Also, don't track yourself Marci.

[Bell]

King troll.
Please claim.

[Bell]

If you were scum you would care if he scum read you right

[Bell]

I'm not letting Marci off at all tho
But you're probably talking about other people.

[Bell]

I don't really want KT to try harder for the reasons they're trying to motivate themselves with.
It's okay. I'm lazy too.

[Bell]

I'm happy to discuss alternatives, but I'm going to mostly pretend to listen while feeling the most comfortable killing out of those two.
Path of least resistance = Wrong. Is, you know. Not true. But everybody already knows that. They just want to get a headshot because they're vain or something.
*isn't serious*

[Bell]

You realize that I'm a shit poster and absolutely the wrong person to ask right?

To me you're not even in my top 50 obnoxious spammers that I'm either mildly entertained by or tolerate while worrying about what they're doing to the game state.

[Bell]

Am I in the top five

You're 49th.

[Bell]

Existing while Dunnstral.

[Bell]

It'd be funny if Unwnd was scum but I was being paranoid of Notty instead.
They just seem more genuine and focused tho.

[Bell]

Bell come be my canary and tell me if I’m crazy

You're scum. koo
koo

[Bell]

Maybe KT is a Bork alt.

[Bell]

Okay. Kill time before this game goes rotten.

[Bell]

It is my general policy not to laugh at people being wrong at end game because that would be mean.

[Bell]

Huh.

[Bell]

Okay I would like one(1) hammer please.
Not a fake hammer. Nobody falls for that, esp. Not someone named king troll.
Unless you think he'll make an especially funny and/or fake prat fall.
In which case, proceed.

[Bell]

Nice post Dunn, you forgot to hammer tho.

*kicks Principled Peta*
Just do it.

[Bell]

Funnily enough I didn’t think about the draft when I started hunting.
Woops.

[Bell]

I would like to apologize for calling Petapan Principled Peta.

I would like to instead say that principled people are The Worst.

[Bell]

My bloody kingdom for a double vote.

[Bell]

Verily, your overly loquacious dissertation hath been forgiven in the eyes of dog may you go with dog’s grace.

[Bell]

I'm at work.
I would like to thank the scum team for killing Cephrir.
Now, I thought he was town this game.
But like,
I wouldn't have known for sure and I would've been worrying over it.
On the otherhand,
it sure does suck he died as a PR.

[Bell]

I feel like I usually shoot down Notty as scum too.
So I'm not really sure why they think that.

[Bell]

I don't want to address the other arguments about why I'm town because I don't want to.

Who is suspecting me. Why?

[Bell]

Be well Luke! Thanks for playing!

[Bell]

Oh, Dunn is just saying I haven't exited my scum range.
Sure. Okay.

Did Marci say who they tracked yet.
I'm irrationally hesitating I will always regret the road not traveled when the road ended up being a green blood splatter but you always have to wonder if they're both going to be green blood splatters.
Did I mention I'm upset that KT fliped green, because I'm pretty sad about that.
I genuinely don't know how I was supposed to tell. I guess there were some hints in how they formulated their reads lists on people. But sigh. A minor inkling.

[Bell]

VOTE: Dunn

I feel this violates the flow code.
But you know.
Whatever.

How was your day.
My day was fine thank you for asking.

[Bell]

My god if this is you guys trying to impress.

[Bell]

And then just like that.

Bell how can you do this to me? this

I don’t get it.

Separate:
Not sure what to take from Dunn’s response.

[Bell]

Vague brain reasons

[Bell]

I think in general Dunn is pretty defensive.
I felt they were sufficiently defensive early in the game. There was a key somewhere in there to determine whether his defensiveness was scummy or townie.

Right now they seem to be trying to get a handle on what the problems are to figure out how to address it.
It’s either way really.

[Bell]

I don't think it is fair to call me defensive. I have gone on the attack plenty this game.

On a spectrum of defensive and offensive and what each comes off as in terms of effort, tone, and general approach.

I’d label you defensive. Not in this game, but in general.

[Bell]

One of them is Bell. I’m a freebie. Guess the other two and win a free happy meal.

[Bell]

Oh no I meant to post that in my scum pt please ignore it thank you.

[Bell]

No.
Obviously.

[Bell]

Don’t smoke stuff and inhale it and I’ll post better.
But that’s the deal.

[Bell]

That’s cool ff. The enthusiasm sounds okay. Or at least your seeming joy at finding a stable footing is low-cunning.

[Bell]

I also think that GreyIce may have been cop hunting when fferylt replaced in. Luke hypo'd a result on cephrir, and when fferylt replaced in GreyIce simply said that their was a guilty and to follow their vote. If by chance ffery had done so, it would have narrowed down who the cop is for the mafia team.

Oh and Bell didn't even bother with hypo claiming for some reason.

What’s a hypoclaim?

[Bell]

I still dunno what a hypocop read is.
I also don’t know what FF’s read of me is.

I’m glad you consume the edibles and not the smokables.

LLD, if I wall dumped my thoughts this game all you’d get right now is that I’m town and very confused.

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Missed it
Brain fried etc etc

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I wondered and missed your post explaining your reasoning. For it.

Phone call brb 15

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Oh. I was being totally sarcastic in my reversal of my read on Marci. I was half-heartedly trying to play ball and try to convince the scum team to kill them if I was wrong.

But self control broke and I reverted to active open skepticism.

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At least Marci got it, but I wasn’t sure if it was two layers of irony/sarcasm or three.

I was tempted to dive and murder them just to find out. But I suck and KT tripped some of the classics. (I suck).

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Hey, I did ask.

But I would like to selfishly continue to claim that I need a methodology and accept the criticism anyway.

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Oh, Dunn is just saying I haven't exited my scum range.
Sure. Okay.

Did Marci say who they tracked yet.
I'm irrationally hesitating I will always regret the road not traveled when the road ended up being a green blood splatter but you always have to wonder if they're both going to be green blood splatters.
Did I mention I'm upset that KT fliped green, because I'm pretty sad about that.
I genuinely don't know how I was supposed to tell. I guess there were some hints in how they formulated their reads lists on people. But sigh. A minor inkling.

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But then I won’t get to see your eyes fall out

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This is pretty easily explained since I feel like the conversation has gotten slightly more productive recently.

I thought hypoguilty meant "I'm claiming a hypothetical(hypothesis) guilty with deniability that I am actually claiming a guilty, let's push this" and I was like, okay.
Sure, let's see where it leads and if they push harder or just outright claim a true guilty then I can evaluate from there. I didn't really know where to vote at the beginning of the day because I felt like leaving Marci alone because I didn't really think I'd get much more than and then I'd come around and kill them if I didn't like where that was going, it just depended on waiting instead of arm twisting since arm twisting didn't work and they put spoiler stuff in spoilers. I have a generally
I understand hypothesis is just something you test. but that hypo can also mean "low" or "below" I'm not sure which was meant but I guessed.

I'm also happy to see more from Grayice and I have a relatively hard time reading you Dunnstral, so I don't have much objection to learning more an trying to form an opinion.
I largely avoid (but usually quickly admit) when I'm just voting to pressure people. This was largely that with a side of me openly speculating about whether this is Dunstral on defense scum or Dunstral on defense town.
Also, I think I just naturally scum read your how you approach defense, so vague brain reasons.

I feel that the hypoguilty being a motivation didn't need to be said.
Also, I feel like Dunn always pushes at me, but there is something there that's fairly interesting. I don't really think Dunn has ever successfully gotten me eliminated as either alignment.
I'm kind of surprised they're still taking this approach if they are scum. You'd think they'd avoid engaging with me.

But hypoguilty. So it might not be worth thinking about.

Tada. Brain dump. Everyone was town reading me anyway. No closer to solving the game. but thinking thoughts.

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Sorry for worse than usual spelling errors. Long day. People usually have a hard time following even when I'm not dead tired, but that's because I'm lazy and don't really refer to people or posts I'm responding to clearly enough.
an' I'm fien wit tha

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I don't really think I'm being fooled by Unwnd this game still. They're just town probably.

I'm still pretty skeptical of Notty. They just aren't reaching what it is I need them to reach. Don't ask me what it is.
I remain leaning slightly town on Peta. I don't really have many tells or things I think Petascum does that petatown doesn't. I don't feel like sharing my opinion on him regarding their brushes on those tells this game. It's not terrible.

All I got for GI is that while they have threatened to moralize they haven't actually done so, which means they're not so bored because they don't have a game to solve that I think scum them might be inclined to do. On the otherhand, lol at even the idea of trying to read them through that lense.

LLD keeps telling me how sad they feel about how I think about them this game.
So I won't talk about it.

STD is hard. Sad brains is hard. STD sad brains kill because sad brains or kill because scum with also sad brains. Sad brains. My brain sad.

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i had a dream that bell was scum...

Neat. Tell me more?

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Also full claim result please.

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Std always feels out of place to me.
This game is no different.

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Std always feels out of place to me.
This game is no different.

So, what is your read on him?

Mild flumuxxation.

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I’ve never seen grumpy sad brain STD. I’ve seen stressed and silly STD.

But not irascible STD.
STD lurks and usually doesn’t say much.
I conclude that I dunno.

I already said that earlier though. Albeit differently. All I’m really saying is that std is always weird this is a different weird but I’ve seen them as town and scum and see no similarities between them in those games and games in this one. Except for the gifs/memes/imgs. But that’s usually pretty light.

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no one says hi to me?
Rudest game ever.

Welcome person.

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Easily top 10 worst week of my life.

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Hard time seeing unwnd as anything but a pal to maybe ask a question or two on their opinion about a read.
I don't really think I'd follow them unless I already agreed. I guess it would depend on what they say, but I don't usually feel moved by their thoughts. Just because they're their thoughts.

that said. *stares blankly*

VOTE: firebringer.

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Bullshit, but okay.

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I would happily sheep you if you wanted to kill somebody.

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I wouldn't sheep you unless I already agreed with you or there was a click.

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Eh, I figure that when you're town you're more accurate than I am.

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One of them is Bell. I’m a freebie. Guess the other two and win a free happy meal.

I think it went something along the lines of u being an evil mastermind who posted this because you thought you would get tred for this bs because it makes you seem like you dont care abt ppl scumreading u and makes u seem carefree

This isn't a dream tho and I do this occasionallyc as town.
I also don't really do it for posturing purposes but because I get mildly amused chuckles at poking at my own vulnerability. I think it's normal.

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I have very low expectations FB.
I have never seen you effort.

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FF is town pinging me slightly. I'm being cautious, but they just keep going in the right direction to me.

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I've seen you effort?

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Dragonball.
Hxh
guns and roses.

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Well, of course it doesn't matter.
Nothing does, silly dog.

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Why don't you want to cause offense to fire?

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Do you want to kill Marci today Peta?

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I think instead of shaking people down I'm just going to watch and wait atm. I really want to but I can't rationalize a good reason to do so.

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Finishing up Wrath of the righteous. Working on Homework. Ruminating about the worst wednesday to end all wednesdays.

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Game's not ruined, but I do think this probably kills any chance FF is scum.

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Unless they have a history of making Notes PT's while having a scum PT.
I can't remember. But someone will check.

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But if they do have a history of it, I don't think really think there's a problem.
FF accidentally showed that they have a notes PT and they were looking over GIce's posts, is not revelatory.
imo.

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It really depends how GIce thinks LLD, you'd know better than me. If it were me, I would just report it to the mod instead of the thread and then fuck up by giving FF a heads up that they fucked up in our PT. Because I would be thinking about the advantage without thinking about the ethics of the situation beyond just making sure I reported it. Rather, I would try to protect the team from fall out.

I usually don't think "no harm, no foul, since only I know" because I don't know that.

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....I did not mean to imply that FF fucked up here. lol. Obviously, they didn't know.

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Also, fuck the superbowl, but thanks superbowl for giving me an excuse for my grandpa to come over.

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I'm going to shush. I don't think I should be talking about this without more consideration and I'm not the mod. Not my lane.

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I don't think anyone fucked up, frankly

GI pointing that out seems mostly innocuous as well

Bork absolutely fucked up.

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I'm not. But I really love making fun of Bork.
he did an amazing job and I don't really know how he did it but the website seems faster.

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I can see alternative explanations. It's hard to get inside somebody's head.
That was my initial impression. I forgot what I was reading or doing that made me feel that way.

I'm not opposed though. It just didn't meet my stupidly high standards that I don't actually bother with as a player anyway because I probably wouldn't vote people if I did.

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You're both scum?
Wow, good job Peta.

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My hearts sort of set on killing the taly slo- oh yeah!