Open 432: Robo's PYP (Game Over)
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Welcome Starbuck.
Reason for the hydra is Elmo has limited time with work right now , so we got together for this. my bf NS helped me set up the hydra. I am going to sort through these pages and from what I have seen so far we are already getting out of RVS into real discussion. My RVS vote (if Elmo agreed) was going to be on Absta.
@Shamrock? why are you so SURE it is a scum slip on the part of 13th? Could it be that he did not pay attention to the fact there are 3 scum in this setup? In my experience, scum are more likely to pay closer attention to those kind of details than town ESPECIALLY to how much scum there are.
@ Slandaar and Absta could you two give us something about the rest of the players and stop wrestling with each other for a moment or two?
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Slandaar check out Open 408 I screwed up and forgot that there were 3 scum instead of 2, and I messed up on the count for L-1 because I was mainly in Newbie games at that point. (Rach half) Also, if you want to see how I did as scum in this same set up check out Open 397 which was modded by Elmo, and Glow, T and P, and I were the scum. Also, 2/13 chance of being scum instead of 3/13 chance still sounds to me as a mixup by a townie not by a scum.
Way to avoid my question though Slandaar.....Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 18, absta101 wrote:So we learn more about what kind of motivations you have. Not voting denies us that information.
I disagree.
In post 31, noraaa wrote:vote Slandaar
You're trying to break down his motivations without sharing any of your own, and that feels manipulative.
Hi Noraaaa glad to see you're here but do you have anything else to say?
In post 32, Shamrock wrote:In post 15, friday-13th wrote:not likely to say, but there's a 2/13 chance of it being true lol
there are 3 mafia in this game - unless you already know that one of them is you. scumslip? i'll call that good enough for a page 2 vote.
VOTE: friday-13th
Bad vote is bad.
Noraaa's 51 I don't like it she's feeling likes she's being attacked and had no votes on her and now she wants to back off and try to "please" the town.
I would like to to confir with me over somethings. >_>
Slandaar - Come on man. Your #65 is crap.
In post 84, Code_X wrote:Hi, sorry for my inactivity over the weekend - had a personal emergency to deal with. Will catch up tonight.
Let's not lynch me while I sleep again K? K
Really Noraaa drop the walls. Im not reading it and reads like a bunch of QQ to me..
VOTE: absta
Little more vocal here then you got in 430. And even then Mt votes torn between you and Noraaa right now. Slan is town (Sadly)
And the slip was based on if scum was 2/13 3/13. Its not hard to decipher. I also modded this setup last so yeah.
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In post 89, absta101 wrote:@Elmo
Your vote here is very opportunistic. You're attacking me for a null tell.Elmo wrote:Little more vocal here then you got in 430.
A different alignment is not the only possible cause for a different playstyle. Factors like your role and how interested you are in the game play an equally large part. The fact that you only "assumed" a different alignment makes you look desperate to pin me as scum.
Also:
1. Go check my other games, i'm almost always the most active.
2. I replaced into 430 for the sole purpose of helping the Mod out, he needed quite a few replacements. I did NOT join it because of the setup.
Unless you disagree with what's been said about Noraa-town (why haven't you mentioned this?), your accusation against her is evidence of you not thoroughly reading the game. This means it's possible that you're scum and that you still find her to be an easy target which fits your profile of an opportunistic scum.And even then My votes torn between you and Noraaa right now.
VOTE: Panda
Panda is definitely scum.
In post 90, absta101 wrote:(inb4youshoutOMGUS)
HA! Funny there. Really I was making an observation. Did I read Noraaa's wall of joy no. I skimmed it. IT seems shes crying wolf about being called out on things she "says" she was being called out on. Even then look at your vote and tell me how I am opportunistic. Your an idiot if you think I would make my vote that fucking obvious 4 pages in. And so defensive overall. I have a very small list of town/scum atm. You already know what side your on. And I think its funny you're already thinking I am going to accuse you of OMGUS....Its almost as if you know your vote is bad but your going to fling as much shit to see if it can stick that you can.
Is that the best case you have on me though is opportunistic? Is this why you're defending Noraaa? Buddying already 4 pages in?
And if we're talking about how your more active then O430. I wasn't the one who called you out on it and what was said in that game about you being active?
In post 371, DarkLightA wrote:absta does seem to contribute more in games where he has an "anti-role"...
Oh yeah I think it was Dark who said it.Mod: The Quote I Used The Game Just Finished
So do you want to prove me wrong here then? Hmmm? Also you know my lynch there was complete bullshit. Fucking lynch someone while they sleep and can't defend themselves. I had a decent shot at a 3P Lylo for the win...
Do me a favor and find a spot for your vote to sit and calm the fuck down.
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This is the Rach head here. Elmo is playing very consistently for Elmo and well every game someone thinks he is scum for it. Noraa is right I had V/LA and then ended it too early because all heck broke loose just as I got back. However in this case, it was I wanted to touch base with Elmo which I had not been able to do before my first couple of posts. First time for me as a hydra.
I will read walls though, and will see what is up with Noraa's walls. Also will find the question Starbuck asked.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 94, Starbuck wrote:Purrfect Panda
Purrfect Panda wrote:Really Noraaa drop the walls. Im not reading it and reads like a bunch of QQ to me..
I do apologize for my part in that, but it felt like an easier way to ask direct questions to break it down to where I wanted more of an explanation.
Purrfect Panda wrote:And even then Mt votes torn between you and Noraaa right now.
Why? What is your case on noraaa?
Absta101
I've been feeling icky about absta since I first read the game. I know he explained further that posts without votes can be useful, but it seems like a silly position for town to take. This is a game that is highly dependent on words and to openly say that you have a penchant to discount posts without votes is highly strange to me.
I'm still a bit confused at his reply:
absta101 wrote:I do find them useful. Just because I found votes "more useful" doesn't mean I find posts without them useless.
Events have proven me wrong in that a post with no vote can be just as effective.
absta101 wrote:I learn all my tells from the games i've played, I guess you can call me naive. Code didn't exactly help.
How many games has that been?
absta101 wrote:I voted him for:
1. Not voting because I thought (not voting) would prolong our time in the RVS stage.
Then after reviewing the setup...
2. The opposite of what he said in his first post seemed more likely therefore making me slightly suspicious.
1. Why would you think this?
2. why did it make you slightly suspicious?
Another thing, Absta's defense of noraaa is inching closer and closer to white knighting.
Scigatt wrote:I'd guess Slandaar or Starbuck as one of her partners.
How so?
Slandaar wrote:I saw no reason to explain the reasoning or motivation behind my initial post. Not explaining allows others to chirp in their views without being tainted by my explanation.
Absolutely.
Sawyer wrote:His initial post confirms nothing one way or the other and there's nothing to base any assumption off of. It's basically like say "He said he's confirmed town, but he could be just scum saying that. But scum wouldn't say that, it would draw to much attention. Unless he is scum and he knows we would think like that, so we would think he's town!" And it goes on and on.
And this completely.
Shamrock's vote on friday-13th is absolutely terrible.
Still awaiting noraaa to come back and fully answer my questions.
@Starbuck We do not yet have a specific case on Noraa, I want to read her walls first, and Elmo does not read walls. Elmo often sees certain tells and goes with gut, I tend to be a tad more passive and sift through everything for the big picture before making a decision on who is scum.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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I was not so much defending 13th as questioning YOU to get a handle on your slot, though as I said it usually is more often that town not scum mess up on the game setups and mechanics. For a good reason, Scum has to try to blend in and confuse townies so they can get mislynches and avoid being lynched themselves, so they are more likely to pay closer attention to the setup and mechanics of the game. I was suspicious of you jumping on that as a scum tell, so I questioned you.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 145, Code_X wrote:The Rach head of Panda seems far scummier than Elmo. Ergh maybe she's not so good at scum as he. And she still doesn't contribute anything to the convo.
Thanks for the compliment that I can play scum. Sadly I'm not this game >_>
And if all fairness I was an SK last time. And a way to tell who's posting is I sign my posts. Rach does not. I see I have more votes. Hopefully I'll read up and debunk all the bullshit against me. Which there is a slew. But for now I'm going to sleep since the next week of work is going to be hellacious. 50+ hour week same as this past week on top of no days off at all. WOO HOO!!!!
(Yes this was pure fluff. Don't like it bite me. Also my wagon is scum driven. And that's all I got)
Good Night
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Rach half here. I am going to do some ISO research and then discuss findings with Elmo and post them. One of the reasons we are doing this as a hydra is his heavy workload right now.
I also would be happy to provide links showing this is typical of Elmo's play as town. As well as mine.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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@ Mod V/LA till tomorrow
This is the Rach half and I am sorry but I have to go for yet a THIRD night tonight of sleep study because they have determined I have moderate sleep apnea and that the CPap is not gonna work well enough for me so tonight they will try the bi-level and hopefully that works.
I will be back tomorrow though. Do me a favor and don't lynch me yet so I have time to put together a case on someone who is more likely to be scum. And have a chance to answer the cases put against Elmo and I. Thanks.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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I am on my way out the door but it sucks cause it is a mislynch and we still have time til deadline to actually catch scum. I think Elmo indicated his displeasure with it already in previous posts. He usually gets most irritated when he sees that town is on the wrong path when he is town. Then the snarky side comes out in him.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 178, Code_X wrote:Bar saying it's scum driven. Like who is the scum driving it? Slandaar? Me? Absta? Come on Elmo.
When I find time to fucking read this game. I'll explain. Rather have time.
Today was "eventful" to say the least. And I'm going to work in about an hour and to the casino. Maybe the gym as well. It's been a super fuckin stressful day. And I still have Absta as my #1. Read
tl;dr my little one got out of the house and was searching for her daddy. Fill in the rest. So yeah. You'll get more later
~Elmo
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In post 228, Shamrock wrote:So: good lynches IMO right now are Scigatt and Panda. Could see myself getting behind a Monty lynch too, but again, want to see more activity from him.
@Darklight: Have you played with absta before?
@Kyle: Is noraaa/Brandi still your only scumread? Thoughts on Panda, Monty, Scigatt?
Robo, can you prod Monty? Also, is there any chance I could convince you to reduce the prod deadline from 72h to 48h or 36h? 72h really is quite a long time between posts.
If you want to play the Good Lynch game your setting yourself up for the easy hop on my wagon. Pretty easy when you're sitting on a non existant wagon and can now just hop to mine with no consequence...Hmm..Interesting now isn't?
And look Dark makes a case but no one gives a shit about it. Peachy.
Slaandar has done nothing since the last post about setup speculation...Pretty funny isn't it?
Oh and best part of my wagon so far is Sawyer being worthless as well. Let's just complain about my attempt at complaining about Noraaa's walls and what not.
Obv Scum on my wagon: Sawyer & Absta
Worthless Town on my wagon: Slaandar
Obv Scum waiting to hop on my wagon: Shamrock.
If you want to fucking put your votes on me go ahead Shamrock and quit playing the "oh I think their scummy but Im going to leave my vote on someone else for no reason"
GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS AND VOTE ME!
VOTE: Shamrock
Also Mod Im V/LA all week. Boss is on vacation -____-
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In post 288, Code_X wrote:A bit of the heat has gone off Panda and the hydra has gone into lurk mode. I know RL issues and the like but no doubt it will be a case of Elmo throwing a load of rage and Rach saying she needs to speak to Elmo and then defends all his hate rage.
In post 232, Purrfect Panda wrote:Also Mod Im V/LA all week. Boss is on vacation -____-
>_> I was going to get to this but Ive been falling asleep a lot lately..And I have a big matter to attend toHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 305, Code_X wrote:Twiddles thumbs.
Wants Panda to produce. Wants Kyle to appear and post reads. Wants Monty dead.
I just woke up after sleeping my day away. Don't expect much till Friday.
Unless Rach appears
~Elmo
PS. If you think I'm scum just go ahead and lynch me out of this game. Or let the vig off me during the night.
Oh and I have a bit of insider information as well I'll reveal later about the setup.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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bah he meant he Modded this setup before in Open 397. I was in that game along with several others including LS, Gunny, and the scum team was Glowball, T and P (a hydra) and myself. LS was the one shot cop who investigated me, our hydra T and P bussed me heavily cause he forgot I was on his team, my bf NS and I realized we could not play in the same game and he replaced out, Gunny went weird on us as the Innocent Child, and T and P fake claimed tracker which when the IC claim came out and LS claimed Cop showed that T and P was lying and well if it had not been for Glow plus the town making a few odd choices for mislynching, town would have won that game.
Elmo are you trying to commit suicide of us here?
It is very late right now and I am exhausted, but I PROMISE I will give more tomorrow so please give me a chance to speak on our behalf before lynching us.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 322, Purrfect Panda wrote:bah he meant he Modded this setup before in Open 397. I was in that game along with several others including LS, Gunny, and the scum team was Glowball, T and P (a hydra) and myself. LS was the one shot cop who investigated me, our hydra T and P bussed me heavily cause he forgot I was on his team, my bf NS and I realized we could not play in the same game and he replaced out, Gunny went weird on us as the Innocent Child, and T and P fake claimed tracker which when the IC claim came out and LS claimed Cop showed that T and P was lying and well if it had not been for Glow plus the town making a few odd choices for mislynching, town would have won that game.
Elmo are you trying to commit suicide of us here?
It is very late right now and I am exhausted, but I PROMISE I will give more tomorrow so please give me a chance to speak on our behalf before lynching us.
In post 323, Sawyer wrote:Having modded another game of the same set up gives you no "insider information". You better hope that's not what he meant because its not gonna stop your lynch.
Na. Figured I could have some fun with these people. And realize I have modded this setup. Robo even asked me a couple questions on how I did things. But that's not the point. Insider information comes from nodding this before. Rach said it best. She was scum and pretty bad at it. >_>
Her mafia breathen saved her in the end for the win.
But I'm sorry. I can prolly guess 2 of 5 PR's mafia chose just based purely on what the options are.
I mean seriously ffs. You think I'm that stupid to say I'm scum like that.
I can setup speculate like the rest of us here but I bet I guess what we have starting with what your all eluding toHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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SCUMMY.
In post 315, Sawyer wrote:*Looks at set up again*
Yeah, I dont think "insider information" is possible unless you're either Scum or cheating...
Town
In post 316, Code_X wrote:Yeah doesn't look like Monty's getting rope.
VOTE: Purrfect Panda
The Panda wagon has died purely through the dynamic duo lurking/avoiding any semblance of scum hunting.
And now Elmo claims to have insider information. When only scum would have any clue about setup.
Prolly town
In post 317, Brandi wrote:unvote
vote: Purrfect Panda
Was looking at the front page and back here again in case I missed something.
That definitely looks like a slip to me.
Almost... intentional? :/
Prolly scum but not sure
In post 321, BK201 wrote:V/LA till Friday.
Obv town. Would say nothing about what I did.
In post 320, Starbuck wrote:Holy shit, that's a slip completely and I will keep my vote off of Panda until they come in and explain themselves.
I am at the ready, though.
Scum staying off the wagon till it's the right time
It's funny how people react when you do something a bit crazy.
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Yeah I was like WTF when he did that but I am also used to Elmo doing crazy stuff in games.
There are only so many choices the scum can pick from the list, when I was in Open 397, we looked at all of them and decided to go with Vig, 1 shot Cop, and Innocent Child. And Elmo is right, I let my aggravation at Kassadin's play style drive me nuts, and he turned out to be the vig so the vig did not shoot him which was very annoying, and not just to me. Glow kept her cool, and that was what won us the game. As mod, Elmo had access to the Mafia QT of course, so he saw our reasoning and decisions. That is why he is able to figure out at least a couple of the ones that this scum team picked.
Meanwhile back to this game. I agree with Elmo that definitely Slandaar is town, along with Sawyer, BK. Stay tuned for ISOs next.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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HUGS ♥ DV welcome. This is the Rach half of the Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn
@Shamrock are you SURE there is a vig? It is a likely possibility, but only the scum know for SURE. Same question to you Slandaar (though I am thinking you are town that was an odd thing to say.)
Also @ Shamrock, do you have something more substantial? Or are you looking for an easy lynch? BTW on the BK is town part, both Elmo and I have played several games with him and this is typical of his town play. He tunnels he pushes heavily and often jumps to conclusions (not always the right ones).Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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LOL I will pass that thought on to my bf who I may hydra with at some time :p You have been around long enough I am sure you know him he considers himself...... Nobody Special.
He will tell you I am a really sweet girl ♥
Meanwhile I think Elmo has given me enough to work with to come up with reads and get on with the program, after giving me a heart attack without warning me first lolHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 362, Shamrock wrote:I should clarify the above by pointing out that it is Elmo who is giving the OMGUS, and that that "you" was the collective "you". Damn English, and more importantly, damn hydras.
In post 365, Shamrock wrote:(I'm not nearly as much of a vet as my join date makes it look like I am. Before this July I hadn't played on this site since 2006.)
In post 414, Shamrock wrote:why does everyone think Panda's post was a scumslip, that conclusion makes no sense
if he said something like "there are three of us in this setup" that would be a scumslip
but "HERP DERP I HAVE INFORMATION ON THE SETUP" is not something that scum says by accident as a mistake, especially not one who has modded this setup before and knows how it works
he's still scum but it's not a scumslip
tldr: lynch panda
also:
In post 363, Purrfect Panda wrote:Meanwhile I think Elmo has given me enough to work with to come up with reads and get on with the program
hmm it's almost like they're avoiding doing it or something
In post 441, Shamrock wrote:Uh, I want both of them dead, don't really care how it happens. Vig one and lynch the other, lynch both, whatever, both solutions work.
So Does anyone see anything wrong with these posts in context? I mean seriously It wreaks of scum. Honestly what town person would want another townie dead no matter the cost? Hmm..
Also I don't know what Rach is up to its really having me wonder what the hell >_>
VOTE: Shammy Shamm Rock
Can we lynch scum today please?
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In post 530, Brandi wrote:In post 528, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:What retarded scum would ever put a JK in this setup. Seriously.
VOTE: Bk201
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
This vote is so scummy.
You never lynch a claimed power role, unless there is a CC. Then you rationalize it with the town.
Given the players in this set up, I wouldn't put it past scum to make a dumb pick and not think about it.
Yes it's highly unlikely but uh... there's still a chance he's telling the truth. If he's alive tomorrow we can lynch him.
But today? No.
Um no. We kill it with fireHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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Sigh guys I have had a week and half or so of hell. First many days of intermittent internet and MANY phone calls to AT and T followed by even MORE phone calls when the modem completely died and the new one was not working either (seems they switched us over to the UVerse without making sure we had a new modem that worked with it). FINALLY have a new modem/router combo that works with Uverse instead of just DSL.
I am back though.
Will say here what I have said elsewhere I always have a tab open on Mafia but that does not mean I am on that tab at any particular time. I work from home and that means I usually have at least 15 tabs open on Firefox at all times and flip through them as needed.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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I was just reading thru my iso and Absta's does anyone notice he really only votes my slot? And pretty much acts like he has other suspects but seems to "afraid" to move his vote so "if" they flip scum or live thru the night it just goes by the wayside.
Either way my wagon is still shit. I'm only supporting a
Absta/BK/Shamrock lynch today.
And seriously. I never said if there's a JK I can't be scum. I'm just saying the odds are so low it's pathetic. Think about the big picture here. There are 2 scum safeclaims. And even then there's going to be a lot of WIFOM with them.
OH AND ALL YOU FUCKHEADS IN THE GAME! DEADLINE IS TODAY! IF I GRT LYNCHED YOU FUCKS HAS BEST BRING ABSTA TO THE GRAVE WITH ME BECAUSE I'LL 1V1 THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW!
VOTE: Absta
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 601, absta101 wrote:My vote on Nat is just sheeping BK. My vote on Panda is way more productive.
Vote: Panda
@Panda- All my previous points still stand. Add the fact that you and Brandi mentioned JK before anyone else and you're looking more scummy than ever.
Seriously. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Huehuehue imma sheep BK but my vote here is better because it's my top scum read. Seriously. You need to get the ropeHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 604, Slandaar wrote:In post 601, absta101 wrote:
@Panda- All my previous points still stand. Add the fact that you and Brandi mentioned JK before anyone else and you're looking more scummy than ever.
Trying to justify his vote on Panda to Panda.
I feel it
Absta/Natalie scumteam
Then join me on Absta
Sorry for the 3fer.
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Welcome Reck. HUGS ♥ ''
This is the Rach half of the hyrdra (Elmo Teh Azn is the other head).
I have read through Nat's ISO to get some idea who her scum buddies are. Also been looking at the VCs to get some idea of voting patterns.
Considering how much Nat tunneled on Noraa/Brandi, I feel pretty confident she is probably town. I can't see that much energy just for a bus attempt. I think at least one of the scum was on Nats wagon though and am trying to narrow down who. Also there is likely to be one on our wagon. Will also look for any flip flops from the two wagons as well as checking the other wagons.
BK at this point, is in the town pile in my book as an un CCed PR, though it does seem odd to me that the scum team would pick JK, I know that in Elmo's version of this game we all 3 agreed on no JK it is a very powerful PR. Also some of the others are one or two shot while JK is every night. So I will be paying attention to what he does and will want to know who he jailed last night and why.
Vig needs to stay quiet though and not let the scum figure who he or she is. Bad enough that we have at least one possible PR outed this early. Since there were two deaths, we do know there is a vig. I also want to take a good look at Slandaar's ISO too because I have a feeling he was the one the scum were afraid of since Darklight was less active than even we were for the most part.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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ohhhh I am so envious Starbuck I love Cons they are so much fun. I volunteered at a couple of them in the Bay Area of California and had a blast. Have fun.
@BK your reasoning makes NO sense. One of 3 scenarios here.
1. You are town and JK and jailed someone who is town.
2. You are town and JK and jailed scum but not the one who did the kill.
3. You are scum and fake claiming JK.
Naming who you jailed in no way would tell us who the vig is. Also you did not get NKed instead Slandaar did. Your claim is a tad bit suspect here and letting us know who you jailed would help town a lot and not give much to scum.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 656, Shamrock wrote:I am sympathetic to what DV has to say about Sawyer up above. However, Panda is still so painfully obvscum that it hurts. I could go for either lynch but would prefer Panda.
VOTE: Purrfect Panda
More later when I have more time.
Let me know if you actually come up with a case this is so NOT a case
" They are scum because they are so painfully obvscum"??? WTF is that?
oh yeah it is called circular logic... not a case.... not actual scum hunting...Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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@ Brandi
Without getting too much into WIFOM land since NK analysis can do that....
I do not see scum NKing a player who had not even voted etc over Slandaar who was fairly vocal and seemed quite towny. However I can see a vig shooting someone who was a mega lurker. Kassadin, in Open 397, shot an uber lurker first night someone we had planned on setting up for a mislynch the next day. If I were vig and not sure who was scum, the next best thing would be someone who the scum could use for lynch fodder. I may have been seriously annoyed by Kass but that was actually a good move on his part.
@Shamrock You are mega tunneling here dude... When we flip town who will you look at as scum? Do you have any suspicions besides oh they must be scum cause they are scum?Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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umm Absta? Could you explain that post a tad I am kinda lost with it?
I am of course not 100% sure and still have a small bit of suspicion that I would have on someone who is not conf town, but I feel pretty good about Brandi being in our town pile.
I am not getting the push on DV though? Could someone explain the case you have on him? I kinda see him as more town.
Sawyer could you explain yourself a tad there? You changed your vote without any reasons or case listed.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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Rach head here I was re-looking at Nat's ISO and saw this...
Put it in spoiler for those who dont want to read the wall and then at the bottom is my points on this quote. It is post 383.
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Rereading this wall I want to point out that Nat was not wishy washy about wanting us vigged. She also was wrong since vigs can shoot townies just as easy as scum, and she knew that I am sure. So yeah had the vig shot us last night it would not have made us scum it would have made us town just like we said. Notice that she commented on Sawyer a bit but not much and certainly did not suggest voting for him. I find that very suspicious, but I need some agreement from Elmo here he prefers a different scumspect.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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I think it was more likely they figured they could WIFOM it into a mislynch today because they kept him alive and that Slandaar was too close for comfort for them on his scum hunting. Newbies might have just gone ahead and killed the claimed PR, but more experienced players are more likely to look at different ways to go. I dont think they expected us not to race to lynch BK today.
Does not look good for Absta or Sawyer. I may have to make a unilateral decision since I have not heard back from Elmo yetHydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 88, Purrfect Panda wrote:
I would like to to confir with me over somethings. >_>
VOTE: absta
Little more vocal here then you got in 430. And even then Mt votes torn between you and Noraaa right now. Slan is town (Sadly)
And the slip was based on if scum was 2/13 3/13. Its not hard to decipher. I also modded this setup last so yeah.
~ Elmo
You will note that Absta has ALWAYS been a scumspect of us, especially more so of the Elmo head. So yes I was looking primarily at Nat for Absta-Nat connections when I made that statement, Sawyer. So why are you SO convinced he is town? There has been suspicion on his slot from the very beginning. I don't think the wagon built up fast because he is town, I think it built up fast because a number of people think he is scum.
As for you, Sawyer, I am now looking more seriously at you as well. Especially with the soft defending of Absta you have been doing.
(Rach Head here). (cut part of the quote out that was not relevant to this point for brevity's sake.)Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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In post 850, Shamrock wrote:Panda what do you guys think of Sawyer
I think he be scum. Also why is Absta not dead?
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In post 876, absta101 wrote:
If you turn out to be town, i'm never going to join a game with you ever again.In post 873, Purrfect Panda wrote:In post 850, Shamrock wrote:Panda what do you guys think of Sawyer
I think he be scum. Also why is Absta not dead?
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Then never join a game with me again then
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In post 894, Shamrock wrote:Ughhhh this game is so stalled
You guys realize we don't HAVE to wait until deadline to lynch absta right
Why are you in such a rush to lynch him?
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Rach head here, I have not heard from Elmo in a few days or so now, but I know based on previous convo, that he would be just fine with an Absta lynch. Personally I really think the reason they went after Slandaar instead of an un CCed JK, is that they saw Slandaar as a big risk. Which further makes me think that Elmo is right on this Absta thing.
So our vote stays put.Hydra of RachMarie and Elmo Teh Azn-
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