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Post Post #636 (isolation #0) » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:45 pm

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Starbuck I love you.

I was making my first post when the topic got locked and it said something like, "I don't reread games over 20 pages so someone fill me in" but nevermind
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Post Post #657 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:29 am

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@DV: I haven't read. Starbuck told me I should replace in so I did, but I never reread games where I replace in after 10 pages.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:44 am

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INSIGHTFUL
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Post Post #667 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:55 pm

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the dead scumbag wrote:Starbuck is reluctant to join the wagon, which is extremely scummy.

oh my god yusssss Starbuck is conftown this game and we get to dance and laugh and sing our way to victory

PS Starbuck I'm still sorry about the last WoW Mafia game :(

Shamrock, does the scumflip from D1 affect your read on Panda at all?
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Post Post #679 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 am

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In post 665, Shamrock wrote:zzzz

requoting this for reck's benefit:

In post 571, Shamrock wrote:dude I've been on Panda literally almost since the beginning of the day, but okay, let me go through their iso again

quick summary:

  • they show no interest in scumhunting, at all (read their ISO, seriously)
  • they refuse to give any kind of analysis whatsoever when asked repeatedly and directly - if they acknowledge these requests at all they just make excuses (see below, I'm going to put it in a separate post right after this one because it's a long list of quotes)
  • the few questions they bother to ask other people are complete bullshit
  • they make blatant OMGUS votes/accusations with no reasoning at all (232, 330)
  • set themselves up to vote the claimed jailkeeper, as I said above (seriously, what protown motivation is there to lynch a claimed JK in this setup?)

This isn't my impression of the Panda hydra from reading their posts.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #5) » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:59 am

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I'm in way too many goddamned games right now, seriously. I made a slight error in judgment when I signed up for so many at once.

I guess I don't really have any strong opinions one way or another, so I can just
vote: Sawyer
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Post Post #727 (isolation #6) » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:36 am

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In post 722, absta101 wrote:Both you and Shamrock are looking great. /sarcasm

Tell me, absta, what was your intention with this post?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:33 am

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I just skimmed all of the above and am anxiously awaiting Starbuck's return.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:12 am

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In post 749, Brandi wrote:
In post 746, xRECKONERx wrote:I just skimmed all of the above and am anxiously awaiting Starbuck's return.

you can give your own opinions on things without waiting for others, you know.

I am here to be a willing vessel for the town who lynched scum on D1 since I really am not going to reread D1 when it resulted in a scum lynch anyway.

Who were the driving forces behind that lynch?
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Post Post #774 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:18 pm

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I AM DRUNK SOMEONE TALK TO ME
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Post Post #777 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:33 am

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You want me to attack Starbuck or something?
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Post Post #779 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:37 am

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These title things on the side are very misleading, I'm really bad at mafia now.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:27 pm

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so looking back at absta D1

- He called Starbuck his second strongest scum read but never voted her. LINING UP DAT SUSPICION FOR FUTURE DAYS.
- He moved off and on the Nat wagon when she was near lynch.
- He was "disappointed" by Nat's lack of aggression which is like scum coaching 101

this lynch is good and I'm sorry for not paying attention earlier
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Post Post #792 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:28 pm

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oops forgot the vote

vote absta
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Post Post #796 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:37 pm

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Because wrong found a scumbag yeah hoebag

Egads it's so sad

(I might be drunk)
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Post Post #797 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:38 pm

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*ye hoebag

Olde engrisj
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Post Post #799 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:39 pm

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NOT WHEN U GET NO FRIDAY CLASSES YEWWAAAAHHH
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Post Post #810 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:18 am

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SUP ABSTA
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Post Post #813 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:26 am

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It'd be really cool for you to respond to my points against you too
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Post Post #817 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:27 am

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Ok then don't call it coaching. Call it... complaining
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Post Post #824 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:02 pm

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STILL WAITING ON THOSE RESPONSES ABSTA
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Post Post #827 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:04 pm

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Be concise for me please
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Post Post #843 (isolation #22) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:42 am

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"a lot of people want him dead"
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Post Post #898 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:50 pm

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I'm still here and nothing absta has said makes me want to lynch him any less.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #24) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:58 am

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In post 902, Starbuck wrote:RECK, what's up? Tell me your thoughts.

I think absta is still scum and nobody's listening to me :(
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Post Post #906 (isolation #25) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:05 am

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True.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #26) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:05 am

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What's the gist of the DV case?
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Post Post #909 (isolation #27) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:55 am

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no seriously
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Post Post #914 (isolation #28) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:02 am

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In post 866, Shamrock wrote:Okay, I just want to spell out exactly why DV's posts on this page make him extremely likely to be scum:

DV was asking for someone on the absta wagon to persuade him to vote. But if he actually wanted to reconsider absta's alignment he could have just reread the last few pages himself (the idea that he "forgot" that these arguments were made, despite knowing of the wagon's existence and size, is hilarious). He didn't do this because he wanted someone to actively persuade him. But there is no reason, apart from being scum, to care about the theatrics of being persuaded in the thread. I just don't see how this behavior could even come from town.

Actually, I bet DV and absta are scum together, and DV was trying to find a way to make his bus on the inevitable-looking absta wagon seem convincing.

oh wow that's pretty good though

hey if DV & absta are scum together why can't we just lynch absta first for meeeeee
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Post Post #916 (isolation #29) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:05 am

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oh duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp

Although... if the two of us switched to DV, we could get a lynch.
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Post Post #919 (isolation #30) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:16 am

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DAT SCUMVOTE
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Post Post #928 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:46 pm

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@absta: You're going to die, and I think you'll flip scum. If I'm wrong, though, who should we lynch when you're dead, and why?
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Post Post #930 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:22 pm

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Brandi please
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Post Post #935 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:40 pm

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Just because you asked, no.

Fuck you.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:44 am

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Okay, that officially sold me on DV as well. Especially the first paragraph of that post.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:16 pm

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This day is going to end in no lynch.
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #36) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:22 pm

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slight VLA till Wed due to midterms

I'll check in when I can
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #37) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:37 pm

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Brandi how can I get you to ======[]
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:13 am

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@Mod: Votecount?
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:18 am

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I was literally just thinking last night, "Man, I wonder if I'd suspect absta101 so much if he wasn't the fucking Spy from TF2..." because just looking at your posts, I get a scumvibe from them with that dude beside them.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:50 am

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Starbuck is NOT SCUM and this lynch is stupid.

I want to lynch absta but I'd lynch DV as a compromise
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:14 am

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In post 1094, Starbuck wrote:It's not a joke. He knows how I play and he'd be the first to call me out if I was scum.

This.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:52 pm

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No. I don't believe Starbuck plays enough or is active enough or is even aware enough about her own scum meta or town meta to replicate it.

P.EDIT: Yeah, that's pretty much my meta recently across the board. I'm a little burnt out and have been for like six months now, but I'm too dumb to really replicate it. You can check other games I've been in recently where I've been town, too, it has been the same thing. It's not a meta tell.
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:06 am

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1. Absta/DV

2. anyone else

3. Starbuck/Brandi
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:50 am

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Pretty much, that's why I didn't really answer #2.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:54 am

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In post 1133, Starbuck wrote:I'm not a fan of how Vox didn't answer the questions given.

Starbuck...are you actually scum, babe?

Because this kind of shit-slinging is bad and you know it.
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:07 pm

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In post 1174, Starbuck wrote:Reck, if you are indeed town, please avenge me as the rest of this town is just playing right into the hands of the scum, just like the scum the want.

Goddammit.

I'm slightly torn on you, girl.

If you're town, I'm not going to stop screaming bloody murder until absta's head is severed from his body. He's still my top scum read, and that's where my vote's staying.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:05 pm

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HMMM YOU SAY THAT LIKE YOU KNOW THINGS YOU SHOULDN'T HMMMM
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:03 pm

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mod votecount?


Also I love how absta hasn't once mentioned I'm scum but NOW OMG IT'S CONFIRMED YOU'RE STARBUCK'S PARTNER

if she flips town, you're dead because you should've been lynched today anyway.

if she flips scum, you're dead because you're now making bullshit arbitrary ties between her and me, when you haven't suspected me at all today.

better kill me tonight, absta, because I'm coming after you tomorrow with a great vengeance and furious anger

Vote: Starbuck


let's get this shit over with
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:04 pm

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and yeah i probably just hammered and yeah i'm drunk and i don't give a fuck

nobody is listening to me on absta so when i fucking die tonight wake the fuck up and lynch him
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:17 pm

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In post 1189, absta101 wrote:Starbuck isn't flipping town.

DV lynch her please.

In post 1195, absta101 wrote:That's a lynch.

Starbuck what was your alignment?

LOL KILL IT
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:22 pm

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ok DV
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:27 am

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In post 1216, Starbuck wrote:Also, for Reck, how active am I usually when I'm scum? I'm usually lurking. I usually try to hide when I'm scum. I don't bring myself into focus. I've gotten lynched more as a VT than I have as any other role because I have nothing to fucking lose.

I know this.
In post 1236, Starbuck wrote:And Reck, you better be scum because I'm not forgiving you for that hammer for a long time.

I'm not. That was partly the alcohol, and partly a hammer outta frustration because nobody would listen to me about absta.

He needs death. TONIGHT.
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:30 pm

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okay we can all listen to me now

VOTE: absta
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:14 pm

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brandi you were wrong about starbuck and you're wrong about absta, I don't give a shit what the Sawyer shit is all about just go with me
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #55) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:32 pm

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Yay more pls
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #56) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:50 pm

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Lynch it now
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #57) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:52 pm

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okay sawyer

brandi thinks your scum and i dont even know but if you're gonna hardcore defend obvscum then you can die next:D
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:42 am

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In post 1306, AurorusVox wrote:HERE IS THE CC BITCHES
LYNCH NOW WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE

hahahahahahahahahaha

gg no re
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:42 am

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In post 1344, Purrfect Panda wrote:Fuck it... I am going with the one I think is most likely scum til we sort the CCs out. Sorry Elmo, but since I have not heard from you in over a week I gotta do this. Love you HUGS ♥

Pedit Umm Absta I was already voting for you and I believe so was Reck so that makes NO sense. Meanwhile I am switching to your scum buddy.

VOTE: Sawyer

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS SHIT

OKAY HERE'S THE MOTHERFUCKIN' DEAL


IT IS 100% CONFIRMED THAT EITHER AVOX OR ABSTA IS SCUM

WE WILL BE LYNCHING ONE OF THEM TODAY. PERIOD

oh and
ANYONE NOT VOTING ONE OF AVOX OR ABSTA WILL BE NUKED FROM FUCKING ORBIT



YOU BASTARDS WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME ABOUT ABSTA YESTERDAY AND I PROMISED STARBUCK I'D SEE HIS LYNCH THROUGH TODAY SO
LET'S GET THIS SHIT OVER WITH, ASAP


need to lynch our vig first? NOPE. JUST LYNCH ABSTA AND GG NO RE
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:57 am

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SOMEONE HAMMER THIS SCUM BEFORE HE FUCKING TALKS HIS WAY OUT OF A LYNCH

PREDIT:

BRANDI WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE GETTING MANIPULATED BY SCUM
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #61) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:47 am

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FUCK THAT

lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum lynch the scum

i compromised on my feelings yesterday and voted Starbuck and no way in fucking hell am I letting myself do that two days in a row with abstascum ALL MARINATED AND READY FOR THE FEAST
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:52 am

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Oh my god Brandi.

Vote absta in penance for that Starbucks wagon
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:13 am

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In post 1407, AurorusVox wrote:RECK - more a post game discussion but let's have it now while the rest of them fanny about.

Should I have kept quiet, scumhunted today normally, looked for other connections to Absta, then cc'd with about a week to go?

I would've just breadcrumbed a CC, tried to get him lynched as normal, then turned around a day or two later and gone "okay, I'm confirmed town because I'm the 2-shot Vig and you can see HERE where I breadcrumbed the CC and this is also why I was pushing on absta so hard"
Brandi wrote:
In post 1406, xRECKONERx wrote:Oh my god Brandi.

Vote absta in penance for that Starbucks wagon

I wish I had a town read on you

If I did I would definitely do this


what does my alignment have to do with the facts: AV & absta are CCing each other, you have to vote one, absta was run up to a lynch yesterday and didn't die, and AV-scum would have NO FUCKING REASON to CC like this and guarantee another dead scum at this point

though I guess it doesn't make sense for absta-scum to claim vig when he knows there's a vig in the game? I don't know

I do know that my gut is all tingly right now because I think AV is towntowntowntowntown and him CCing absta only further confirms my previous scumread on that dude
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:14 am

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also wait a second Brandi

is your theory that AV/me are the last two scum?
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #65) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:02 pm

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Sawyer #1 abstabuddy
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:00 am

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Post Post #1464 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:23 am

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godfuckingdammit

okay AV you're dead next
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #68) » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:43 am

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Oh look.

I'll get to this in the next couple of days.

Starbuck if you're still reading, I love you
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #69) » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:39 pm

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DV do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #70) » Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:13 pm

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My gut tells me Brandi is town, but her bargaining at the end of yesterday to try and stay off the absta lynch is pinging little nodes in my gut that I do not like.

Meanwhile, Panda's logic of "AV & absta are counterclaiming each other? Better vote a potential scumbuddy in Sawyer" is incredibly confusing and I'd like a little more clarification on that front.

Sawyer is another mark because he also tried to stall the lynch wagon on absta.

DV I really do have a towntell on at this point, because post #1197 where he flat-out says that absta asking Starbuck's alignment is a town-tell comes off as honest, to me at least. I don't see why scum would even post in the thread at that point and stick their neck out even further and risk revealing information. In fact, all of the people who posted after Starbuck's hammer (minus DV) are now flipped and dead, and they're all town except for absta. I think it's more likely the scumbuddy would sit back and let absta keep talking. Also, DV thinking I'm scum/possible scum/suspecting me fits DV-town meta since I've always been scum when he's been town.


So the only person I'm sold on
not
lynching at this point is DeasVail. I think everyone else has a much stronger case to be absta's buddy and I haven't seen anything presented that makes me think DV is even a candidate.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:36 pm

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Well, this makes it simple then.

It's either Brandi or Panda.
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:44 pm

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I'm not sure where DV is getting that I'm scum, but I'm trying not to let that taint my townread on him because my gut is screaming that he's town.

Brandi's voting patterns this game have been terrible, and her statement of "if it's not DV, then it's Reck" is lining up lynches while buddying up to Panda to set up for LYLO. It makes perfect sense for Brandi-scum to line up DV & myself as lynches after Sawyer has been confirmed as the innocent child. I have browsed through the votecounts, and seriously, just do it for yourself and look at Brandi's voting patterns. She has done her damndest to not be on any scumlynches, only caving at the last second. We had absta ready to kill Day TWO but Brandi's refusal to vote him lead to a complete wagon shift onto Starbuck. She kept dancing around the absta wagon, telling me she couldn't vote him because she didn't think I was town, etc. and then finally agreed to hammer at the last second. At least, that's how I see it.

Sawyer is confirmed town, I'm not going to second guess myself on DV, so this is pretty simple.

Vote: Brandi
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:36 pm

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I agree that I would bus as scum. Anyone would. It's a common tactic for a reason. But I don't see how you can see the me/absta interactions as scum v scum.
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:19 pm

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In post 1541, Brandi wrote:
WHY WOULD I SPEND THIS DAY CLEARING YOU AND PANDA IF I WAS SCUM? SCUM ONLY WANT TO FUCKING GRANT SUSPICION ON EVERYONE


In post 1496, Brandi wrote:Reck is pretty obv town. His reactions towards the end of the day after Absta was hammered is pretty telling of that.


oh yeah you totally spent the day "clearing" me

i'm too tired to actually go thru the rest at the moment but this has not made me feel any better about Brandi
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #75) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:22 pm

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In post 1542, Brandi wrote:the fact that he wants me dead at this ppoint proves he doesnt want me in lylo bcuz panda and i both have town reads on eachother

and this doesn't make sense at all, considering I posted my reads prior to Sawyer's claim and I explicitly said I was suspicious of you and panda

it's cute when you go all LLD though :)
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #76) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:23 pm

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ok laptop is broken going to sleep gnight
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:01 am

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No no, you sound like a mega-bitch, but I'm guessing you're drunk or high or something because this is waaaaaaaaaaay out of character for you. I'm 100% not reading your posts when you're channeling the retarded baby of drmyshottyizsik & Lady Lambdadelta... I don't like being a dick to you, Brandi, but seriously, whatever has gotten into you needs to get the fuck out because it's painful.

Let me point out a few things that are terribly wrong with your posts, though:

Spoiler:
- "If he was town, he wouldn't vote me" is just laughable bullshit, and it's the same kind of bullshit I've used as scum to make my OMGUS votes not look so scummy and make them look more "justified".

- I'm not sure what one game I've played with you and been scum, but
literally every single game I've played with DeasVail, I've been scum
, and that gamecount is getting higher than 10 at this point. So your "meta" on me is pretty invalid, as you've only played one game with me, whereas DV has played about a dozen and I've had the unfortunate luck of being scum in all or most of them. Neither of you have the grounds to claim meta, so let's stop that shit right now.

- I have never, ever hung out with Starbuck in real life, so that line is just blatant bullshit. And I
can
read Starbuck, I had a gut town-read on her, it remained a town-read, and I hammered partly out of frustration and partly out of drunkenness.

- Are you
seriously
screaming at me for
posting content
!?!? I mean, oh my fucking god, in the same exact line, you berate me for not posting any content the whole game "never posting anything useful", and yet you also berate me
for posting content
in the same post.

- You have a giant conspiracy theory that I waited to post content until you were gone so you couldn't respond... let's see, either I'm a criminal mastermind who thought it'd be a good idea to push through a lynch on you before you could get back in a 24 hour window... or... I posted who I would/wouldn't lynch and gave reasons for each (as you fucking asked me to do), there was a GAME-CHANGING INNOCENT CHILD CLAIM, and I posted in regards to that.

- You say I've done nothing while you've done a ton, right? Let's see... it was I who tried to stop the Starbuck wagon, it was you who was pushing it through. It was I who was screaming for absta's blood for over two days, and it was you who did everything in your power NOT to lynch absta. It was also you who tunneled on
the goddamned innocent child
the entire game. Exactly what is it that you've done that is so great for town? By my book, I'm two for two, and you're zero for three.

- I can't even parse what you're trying to fucking say here because it's a jumble of word vomit.

- I called you LLD because of your posting tone, not because you're a shit player. Chill the fuck out, Brandi, Holy Christ.

- You're trying to guilt trip me because I posted my thoughts and opinions and you can't spend time with friends? HOLY SHIT THE ATE HURTS MY GODDAMNED SOUL.


In the end, Brandi, you're using a combination of meta you don't have a right to use, a made-up history of this game where I've been poisonous or detrimental to the town and you've been a beacon of Paragon-y goodness, and a whole fucking lot of AtE to try and combat me throwing down a single vote on you. Seriously. It was one vote and I calmly explained SEVERAL reasons why I thought you were scum. You didn't take the time to refute any of them and instead just went straight for super-emotional-appeals. That's the biggest scum overreaction I've ever seen, and since this is so goddamned out of character for you, yes, I believe you're faking it.

When there's a game where
I'm not losing my shit
, which is my meta, and
you're losing your shit like LLD high on acid
, which is the opposite of what I know about you, then yeah, something fishy here.

My vote stays.
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:10 pm

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That's a lot to read and the only thing I can process right now is that you say I called Starbuck scum but that's a blatant misrep because I never said that.
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:38 am

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Me asking a question to Starbuck does not constitute me having a scum read on her. Calling one of her actions scummy (which is what I did) is not me starting to have a scum read on her. Your insistence to the contrary is laughable.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:39 am

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I'm in class now then I'm probably going to sleep when I get home due to only getting two hours of sleep last night. If I do stay awake it'll be doing something mindless
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:49 pm

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I really don't see why it's ridiculous for scum to try and redirect a wagon on one scumbuddy onto another scumbuddy. I've employed those tactics before just so that this
exact situation
would be avoidable.

I'm not voting DV today, Panda. Not going back on my scumread.

I'm apparently not getting Sawyer OR Panda onto Brandi.

That leaves me with
Vote: Panda
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:03 pm

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Shit, I'm fairly certain
I've
told the "potential vigilante" to vig my scumbuddy before. It's a genius soft-bus.

If you die, the vig is less likely to shoot your buddy since you asked for it.

If they die, you look like a glorious knight in shining armor who accurately directed the vig to the right spot.

You can't make cases for someone's towniness or scuminess based on WIFOM scenarios, because that's the kind of shit scum EAT and BREATHE.

I'm not even sure if you're talking about Natalie (I'm assuming you are because I don't know which post you're talking about) but I never reread D1 so you'll have to point it out to me.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #83) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:13 pm

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here's the deal

I don't buy WIFOM as town or scum tells, and in terms of convincing factors, my gut reads are going to take precedence

I think YOU'RE scum because of reasons I've already outlined, but it's clear I'm not getting a lynch on you today, and to be fair, I could go for either of you or Panda because this seems open & shut to me
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #84) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:20 pm

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I'm just frustrated as fuck here

DV thinks Panda's town and hasn't stated much about Brandi and thinks I could possibly be scum but he'd "just be guessing".

Brandi thinks DV is scum and refuses to believe there's any way in hell Panda could be scum, period.

Panda seems to think Brandi is confirmed town, too.

It comes down to me or DV from Brandi/Panda's perspective... but I'm REFUSING to vote DV because I have a town read on him. Which basically signs my death warrant.

Which makes me FURIOUS because I don't see where scum are angling, here. I don't know if the chicken or the egg came first with Brandi & Panda sounding like parrots of each other, but I guess I can see how it'd be beneficial for the town one of the pair to blur the line between the slots to make it harder to figure out who is who in LYLO

I just don't know. The way it's coming down is this:

BRANDI: Will vote DV or Reck.
PANDA: Will vote DV or Reck.
SAWYER: Will vote DV or Panda.
RECK: Will vote Panda or Brandi.
DEASVAIL: Will vote... Reck???

I mean it seems to be lining up to be a DV->Reck or Reck->DV lynch sequence and that's going to fucking result in a town loss, I'm positive. I don't know who is the scum between Brandi & Panda (my best shot is Brandi right now) but it doesn't seem like there's a way to change what this is locking in to become.
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:37 pm

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Eh whatever

I think you and I are being setup as the deaths for a scum win. It's partially my fault for not paying more attention after I thought this game was on easy mode.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #86) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:38 pm

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Usually if I can get scum in my tunnel vision like I did with absta I wind up dead before lylo but I suppose killing confirmed town in AV was more important
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:01 pm

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In post 1591, Brandi wrote:...Reck, why is it that you don't consider DV as scum again?

I think I posted it aleady.

i apologize, my keyboad on this comp is boken and typing is not easy to do, and it's not easy to click & bowse the intenet eithe
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #88) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:03 pm

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In post 1589, DeasVail wrote:But I'd like a Reck lynch.

Okay, why?

I hate this POE bullshit that people seem to be using to excuse thei actions today

it's b/s, esp this late in the game

man i need to sleep ie been up 20 hous now

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Post Post #1608 (isolation #89) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:08 am

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Sorry guys, I slept, then yesterday was FOOTBALL DAY IN AMERICA, and today I have class, a term paper, and some marketing work to do tonight.

If you guys can point out exactly what I should be responding to, I can pop in and give my thoughts quickly after I get home.
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #90) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:25 pm

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In post 1540, DeasVail wrote:
- he says that even if Absta & I are scum together, he wants to lynch absta. I don't know, the way he says it feels like scum distancing to me.
-It could be a coincidence or just because of Reck's lack of activity, but Absta's comments in response to/regarding Reck seem more concise. He thinks of those attacking him negatively, but only mentions Reck as scum as Starbuck's partner. Looking further on, it seems he's never trying to get Reck to suspect him less or call him town, whereas he does with Brandi, and me (not sure about others). This could be deliberate on Absta's part though.
-Basically I don't find him very scummy, but he's less town than the others.

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So, the absta/you interactions don't seem particularly remarkable, and if "anyone would bus", why didn't Brandi?

#1) Saying it "feels" like scum distancing isn't a real reason, DV. If you want to start a dialogue, I need more than this.
#2) I can't speak for absta's actions, but I can say that I went hard in the motherfucking paint, and I took absta's ignoring me to be him realizing I was a lost cause and trying to work on others instead.
#3) I didn't say "anyone would bus", I said "anyone COULD bus". You were trying to ascribe the tactic of "bussing" to me, specifically, as if it's something only I would do. My response was that it's a common tactic that literally anyone could pull off, so trying to ascribe it to me specifically isn't valid. It'd be like me saying, "So-and-so defended scum in this game, so he's scum". Scum can bus, and scum can buddy. Either tactic is possible, so it takes more than just throwing out buzzwords. You need to look at motivation.

I'm REALLY bad at explaining what I'm trying to say right now because I just wrote a five page paper in thirty minutes and my head is spinning. Gonna go lie down.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #91) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:27 pm

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In post 1536, Purrfect Panda wrote:grumble grumble Innocent Children are so annoying and most of the time so anti town.

Never heard an explanation for who/what Panda thought the other PR was.
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #92) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:09 pm

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Eh. The intent was there if you read between the lines. I would be likely to bus absta as scum, but I would also be likely to hardcore buddydefend him as I've done in games previously. How are you choosing which one is more likely to happen in any given situation?

Plugging your ears and going "La la la, I can't hear you!" is bullshit, by the way. It's like you're not interested in entertaining any real debate or discourse (a foundation of this game), you just want to go with your gut feelings and spin the wheel of chance, hoping you're right.

I am town, and if you want me lynched, go ahead... but this attitude you're displaying is not pro-town in the slightest. I expected more from you.
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:07 am

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Oh look, DV was town?

Now we get the Sawyer kill and I'm all lathered up and ready for the final raping tomorrow.

Just saying, I told you so.
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #94) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:23 pm

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If either one of you quick votes I will fucking haunt you until the end of time.

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Post Post #1645 (isolation #95) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:34 am

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hi

I'm still here.

I still think Brandi has a higher chance of being scum than Panda. I have posted reasons why previously and this might just be confirmation bias but the whole IT'S DV AND IF IT'S NOT IT'S RECK thing has lead
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into a LYLO situation where she can continue pushing suspicion on me without seeming scummy.

I guess it's possible Panda could be scum here, too, with the whole "Elmo thinks it's Reck" back-pocket thing, but I dunno, that spot has been very odd the whole game so I'm not sure how to read it


I think it's possible EITHER of you have been setting me up for LYLO the past few days, but I think it's more LIKELY to be Brandi at this point.
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #96) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:02 pm

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Nope. I'm town. And if you're seriously town then you're getting played by a noob scumteam.
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:09 pm

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...yes I suppose you're right. You've figured out a basic mechanic of this game, very good.
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:13 am

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go look at ANY TOWN GAME and tell me you honestly think that

like, Always On

im p snarky and rude as town
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Post Post #1656 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:54 am

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Did you look at my game, Brandi?
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:51 pm

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It was always on. I was playing the game constantly. Of course I was more active.

I just want to see if you're going to sustain the notion that my snark makes me scum.
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #101) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:50 pm

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Your behavior isn't why I think you're scum, so why are you using the meta defense?
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #102) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:38 pm

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I dislike Panda's content today.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #103) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:31 am

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holy shit. what
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #104) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:31 am

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VOTE: Panda

I apologize, Brandi, I was mistaken about you.
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Post Post #1675 (isolation #105) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:55 am

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I don't have anything else to say at this point. I spent all of my energy into pushing Brandi as scum and was literally one post away from laying down a vote until Panda did that. I suppose it's a good thing Rach threw a vote on me since it stopped me from being an idiot, but I honestly don't know, now. I think Panda's play today is godawful and seemed to be picking and prodding and waiting for one of us to screw up first, and now Rach is going "well Elmo is gone but I'm just gonna use his scumread to vote" which is complete absolvement of any responsibility, because she's already said "Well idk why Elmo thought Reck was scum" so she literally can't put forward any reasons and has a squeaky clean reason not to do so.

I don't know what else to say, Brandi. I'm town, I hope you make the right decision and can see past your Panda-blinders.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #106) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:34 pm

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GG, town.
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #107) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:35 pm

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I do apologize for how we lost, but I got thrown to the fishes with a terrible D1 for the scumteam. I think if we had survived D1 we probably would have won this.
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #108) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:53 pm

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Thrown to the wolves. Fishes aren't scary.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #109) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:01 pm

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"His punishment is me not going to The Reckoning. =)"

NO STARBUCK WHY ;_; PLS
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #110) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:31 pm

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In post 1704, Starbuck wrote:So I'm trying to figure out where Reck and I had ever said that we have actually met in person. We met somehow on here, I can't remember how, but we just got on real well and became friends from there. It's really weird that I feel like I know Reck better than most that I've met in person.

The first game we ever played together was Save the Mafia!, then you replaced into my first ever modded game and requested to be /in for all my modded games after that. I guess it just expanded from there, not to mention the fact that we both befriended Kise so we were kind of a big old happy family.
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