Open 481: Duck, Duck, Goose Mafia

[Klick]

You're welcome.

Checking in to get this on egosearch. Will read later.

Also, hi Majiffy.

[Klick]

Hi Wisdom.

So, thoughtspill:

- Wisdom is obvious town from his argument with mcqueen

- Got bad feelings from fuzzy and fuzzy and Syryana from the beginning, notably posts 12, 19, and 27

- I feel that Elyse's posts on Page 5 are towny.

- Eh, fuzzy's 118 feels town to me.

- With my reads so far, VC 1.05 tells me that Limo has a good chance of being scum. I'll look out for him more.

- Syry's 151 feels almost unreadable at first glance, but the explanation of option #3 feels scummy because he automatically works under the assumption that the scum were able to premeditate a plan like that. I had to read the Mafia Role PM to see if scum had daytalk after that. Either he looked at the Mafia Role PM and kept the fact that scum have daytalk in memory, or he's probably scum.

- fuzzy's 181 is pretty town.

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@Wisdom: Would you say that mollie is a bit of a wildcard?

- I don't like Syry's fencesitting on mcqueen in 203, either.

- Not really a tell at all, but because of the fact that Syry and Limo are two people I could easily see as scum right now, post 212 could have been set up. Gives Syry more scum points for the flop from "the pm kill shows nothing" to "Wisdom probably killed pm" though.

- I like Majiffy's post 276, for obvious reasons. Even if he's attacking Lurker, flipped town. He's also calling a two-person scumteam.

- Jacob's 289 had already been said. He also really hasn't done anything as of that post.

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So right now, I feel like Syry and Limo are a probable scumteam, with Jacob as a possible third. Reads go like this:

TOWN
Wisdom
fuzzy

Majiffy
Elyse

Jacob
Limo
Syry
SCUM

Also, when looking at mcqueen, he actually seemed pretty obvious town, particularly near the beginning. Could be my bias/experience with him, but yeah.

VOTE: Syry

[Klick]

@Klick
Good post. I like the point about Syryana and day talk. I may hop over depending on fuzzy's answer to my question.

Yeah, that was the big thing that set my sights on him. What do you mean by the third sentence, though?

[Klick]

Oh, I was confused by "hop over." Just got spring break, haven't had enough sleep, not thinking as well as I should be.

[Klick]

If you're just looking for a reason, read my post.

If you're looking for

Majiffy's

reason, then carry on.

[Klick]

@Jacob:

Who is scum? Why?

@Syry:

I want to know what your most recent opinion of mcqueen was.

[Klick]

By the way, I want thoughts on, regardless of the result of the next lynch, everyone that still has a PGO shot using it tonight.

Pros:

- If we lynch scum, we either cause scum to no-kill and give us another mislynch or make them risk making the game 4-1
- If we lynch town, it gives us the highest chance of continuing the game

Cons:

-Reduces WIFOM on the scum's kill after Night 3


PEdit: Why are

you

voting Syry, fuzzy?

[Klick]

UNVOTE: until fuzzy answers

[Klick]

What do you mean?

[Klick]

Sounds fair. I'm thinking of it like a Doctor protect on a confirmed Townie. It's given that you should use it, but then again, the scum know that as well. Either way, the WIFOM is now out there.

[Klick]

Mantisdreamz: Wisdom, Limo, Elyse, Syryana, pirate mollie, mcqueen
Lurker: Elyse, Majiffy, JacobSavage, Syryana, mcqueen

People on both: Elyse, Syryana, mcqueen
People on one: Wisdom, Limo, Majiffy, JacobSavage
People on neither: fuzzybutternut

For reference.

[Klick]

VOTE: Syry

My opinion of fuzzy drops significantly if Syry is town.

[Klick]

If anyone else is interested in pursuing my lynch, I can explain why mcqueen wasn't scum.

Wisdom isn't getting lynched.

[Klick]

Wisdom, you didn't answer my question in my second post.

[Klick]

- Syry's 151 feels almost unreadable at first glance, but the explanation of option #3 feels scummy because he automatically works under the assumption that the scum were able to premeditate a plan like that. I had to read the Mafia Role PM to see if scum had daytalk after that. Either he looked at the Mafia Role PM and kept the fact that scum have daytalk in memory, or he's probably scum.

Honestly, it never occurred to me that scum don't normally have daytalk. As I said at the beginning of the game, this is my first time playing on this site, and I came here after the moderator of my previous games told me about MafiaScum. In the games I played with him as mod, mafia never had a limit on when they could talk to each other, so this limited speech thing is completely foreign to me.

UNVOTE:

I want a link to this. If this is true, I actually really like this post enough to reconsider.

I'm going to do some VCA. inb4itsnothelpfuluntilsomescumaredead

[Klick]

Vote Count 1.03

Elyse (0)
Mantisdreamz (4) Wisdom, Limo, Elyse, pirate mollie
Wisdom (0)
pirate mollie (2) fuzzybutternut, mcqueen
RachMarie (0)
mcqueen (1) MantisDreamz
Lurker (1) Syryana
Syryana (1) JacobSavage
fuzzybutternut (1) Lurker
Limo (0)
JacobSavage (0)

Not Voting:
RachMarie

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA
-None

Night Falls in (expired on 2013-03-17 07:00:00)

Vote Count 2.01

Elyse (0)
Wisdom (2) Syryana, fuzzybutternut
Majiffy (0)
mcqueen (0)
Lurker (0)
Syryana (0)
fuzzybutternut (3) Elyse, mcqueen, Wisdom
Limo (0)
JacobSavage (0)

Not Voting:
Majiffy, Lurker, Limo, JacobSavage

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA
-None

Deadline:
(expired on 2013-03-20 19:00:00)

To me, it'd seem like you were just sharing the Mafia QT of a completed game here. Waiting for Mhork may be a good idea, though.

[Klick]

Oops.

[Klick]

Quick, someone shoot me a case on fuzzy. Preferably one that doesn't involve him asking who still had shots left.

[Klick]

I do like that.

I'll see what I think about him being scum later, and if so, with whom. Without Syry being scum, Limo doesn't look as bad.

[Klick]

Fuzzy, what's the town motivation?

[Klick]

I lol'd.

Jacob's hammer came literally a minute after that vote, which means it was probably a purposeful quickhammer. Fuzzy's probably town, everyone uses their PGO shots tonight.

Elyse is probably his partner. For the third, it's a toss-up between... pretty much everyone. Except Majiffy, he's very likely town regardless of the flip.

[Klick]

I feel fairly confident that no one in this game felt confident enough that they were being shot to actually use a shot within the last two nights.

VCA says that either Wisdom or Limo is the third scum, with preference on Wisdom.

[Klick]

That's based on Jacob's hammer.

[Klick]

Better to make scum feel like they can't shoot anyone, in case they're wrong. Right?

[Klick]

I think you are, if fuzzy is town.

Who is, then?

[Klick]

That's literally the only other possibility that I could see without you being scum. Which could easily be gathered from #478.

However, I'm going to look into that.

[Klick]

Nah, that's actually really hard for me to see. Wisdom and Limo were the two in the front of Mantis' lynch, and that would mean there were no scum on the Lurker lynch.

[Klick]

And that matters in this situation because...?

[Klick]

Which is the point.

[Klick]

I'm not really seeing that. Pretty much everything I've said could be taken either way in the WIFOM scale.

[Klick]

Great play by both Syry and Majiffy, very well done. Jacob... nice quickhammer.

[Klick]

Also, screw you strategic-lurker Jacob.