Open 481: Duck, Duck, Goose Mafia

[Elyse]

Sup.
VOTE: Wisdom
Hello again.

[Elyse]

UNVOTE: Wisdom
VOTE: Mantisdreamz

For page 3, (most of which is RVS and nonsense between Wisdom and McQueen) Limo has a pretty good case against Mantis. And Mantis' response boils down to "I don't know how you got that from my posts. It's kind of scummy to build a case from only a few posts." It's three pages in! What do you expect? You don't even really respond to his points; you just shrug them off as being made out of nothing without actually denying his points or clarifying your own actions.

[Elyse]

Also, the game hasn't even been open for a day. You shouldn't be shocked that you aren't seeing a player.

[Elyse]

You don't even really respond to his points; you just shrug them off as being made out of nothing without actually denying his points or clarifying your own actions.

how am i supposed to address his points when they involve: this post looks contrived. this post looks like over-exertion. and then a comment about how my vote is non alignment indicative.

if he's town, and really thinks that - all i can say is: that's not the case.

You could explain your intentions about your RVS post or ask him specific questions about why he thinks what he thinks.

And he's saying you are voting for McQueen for a reason that doesn't indicate his alignment. In other words, your vote on McQueen is bad and has no reasoning behind it.

I'm not sure if you didn't understand Limo properly, but you didn't prove yourself whatsoever and actually made yourself look worse.

@fuzzybutter
Thoughts on mantis?

[Elyse]

Can scum get into the same situation?

[Elyse]

I disagree.
I find that scum tend to keep their cool because they know they can't really defend themselves: they're scum. Town are much more likely to get frustrated and angry because they should be able to defend themselves and are telling the truth because they are town.

I did play a game with Wisdom before. He was town and I was scum. He is acting differently, but it's only one game of reference I have, so I'm not going to push a case on him. My point is: meta alone is not strong enough.

[Elyse]

I'm going to bed.
But mantis and fuzzy are hardcore buddying right now.

[Elyse]

Why did you hammer so early?

And fuzzy why would you be pissed if someone flipped scum?

[Elyse]

VOTE: fuzzy

[Elyse]

It was a bad hammer, but it's not something I see scum doing.

[Elyse]

I don't think scum would bring attention to themselves by hammering a townie early like that.

[Elyse]

Rereading and knowing that Mantis was town, it looked to me like fuzzy was hardcore buddying her. Mantis was not townie.

And yes, I guess it's too scummy to be scum.

[Elyse]

Hmm...

to vote or not to vote, that is the question.

Do you think fuzzy is scum, that is what you should be asking.

Well, first I have to decide whether to agree with wisdom or majiffy.

I think both are town, but Majiffy edges out slightly more.

That said, I don't want to hammer if It's not a scum lynch.

Reading over wisdom.

That is a very odd way to phrase it. It's like you know fuzzy is town and don't want to hammer him.
UNVOTE: fuzzy
VOTE: Lurker

[Elyse]

Elyse - Slight Scum Read. 57 in response to 54 in response to 52 is what I would have called out as a double standard: Calling comments in RVS over-serious and then building a case from RVs material, which Is exactly what he called scummy.

First, I'm a chick. Never met a guy named Elyse (or Elise, the usual way to spell it). Second, where did I call comments in RVS "over-serious"? And then you say I built a case from RVS material, and called that scummy too. Please quote where I called building a case based on RVS material scummy. And it was Page 3, and we were in the transition out of RVS, so what was the case supposed to be on, if it's scummy to be built on RVS?

Personally, I believe there is no such thing as too scummy to be scum.

I can understand this.

Then of course, she voted me.
After from what I skimmed pages of inactivity. Very nice.

What does this mean? Are you saying I voted you because you skimmed pages of inactivity? I didn't. That doesn't even make sense. I voted you for your awkward wording of "not wanting to hammer town." Speaking of my vote on you (and the two other ones), care to respond to them or explain yourself?

You just ignoring the votes on you and giving a list of ehh reads is making me more confident with my vote on you.

[Elyse]

Hey Lurker wanna respond to my post

[Elyse]

I honestly just want to vote Klick's slot, but I'll give him a bit to carve his own image.

Vote: JacobSavage

This.

Except
VOTE: fuzzy

[Elyse]

For wanting to see who used up their PGO or not.

[Elyse]

It does matter if they've used it, because then scum can target them without worry.

I'm not buying it was a reaction test.

[Elyse]

I don't think you are understanding my point.

The purpose of asking who used their power is to avoid saying "Hey guys, who can I NK tonight?" but still get the same information.

[Elyse]

Yes

[Elyse]

THAT'S laughable.

What scummy reaction were you expecting to get from this reaction test?

@Klick
Good post. I like the point about Syryana and day talk. I may hop over depending on fuzzy's answer to my question.

[Elyse]

I want to see what results fuzzy expected to garner from his reaction test, because he's one of my highest scumreads.

[Elyse]

I was hoping who all would actually do it, and use those results to deduct scum. For instance, had someone else asked that question, I would have said "Yes, I used my ability" hoping to be the target of the NK, where i could then use my ability to kill scum. I'm thinking ahead, people. >.>

Good answer.

UNVOTE: Fuzzy
VOTE: Syryansmdggbs

[Elyse]

@Wisdom
Why is Syryana town?
And why is one of me/fuzzy scum? Why not Majiffy or Klick?

[Elyse]

Why

[Elyse]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: fuzzy

[Elyse]

*facepalm*

[Elyse]

IT'S THE REINCARNATION OF MCQUEEN

[Elyse]

I'm not scum, Klink.

[Elyse]

If fuzzy is town, I think it's:
Jacob
Wisdom
Limo

[Elyse]

Why are you saying all of this now? You're just influencing the NK.

[Elyse]

I doubt everyone still has their shot left.
But you do seem very confident there won't be a NK.

[Elyse]

I think it would be more productive if scum tried to kill someone and died too.

But not with your last few posts. You've scared them off. And you've given them a list on who not to kill, if they choose to.

[Elyse]

Wow town sucked. Gg scum.

[Elyse]

Lol you guys wanted to kill me almost every night. I NEVER USED MY SHOT JACOB SO HA.

[Elyse]

Oh yeah good modding!

[Elyse]

I thought I was scummy, to be honest.