Open 473: Jungle Republic GAME OVER

[Majiffy]

Then help me lynch obvwolf HD.

[Majiffy]

Why do you keep ignoring my questions? Why won't you address PH's scummy-as-shit posting in the past few pages?

because it is obviously not shitty, from his looking up people's isos and meta to the content and reasoning in his post.

Let me explain to you the wolf motivation: he done fucked up and slipped that he's mafia hunting, not wolf hunting. Because he knows the wolf.

this is the same shit that rob spewed at me

LOOK AT HIS FUCKING POSTS AND EXPLAIN TO ME THE TOWN MOTIVATION FOR THEM.

THIS DOES NOT COME FROM A TOWN MINDSET. THIS COMES FROM A WOLF MINDSET.

[Majiffy]

Stop fucking evading and tell me the town motivation for those three posts, in the sequence that he posted them, 4nx.

[Majiffy]

You'll have to show me quotes, 4nx, because I don't have the foggiest how the situation as you describe is anything even remotely similar to what PH is doing.

[Majiffy]

You saying PH wolfslipped because he is only mafia hunting.
A similar logic can be applied to my pushes on Rob and Taj.

re: town motivation
1.PH being unsure if he can form another lynch before dealine hits, accepting a mafia lynch as a compromise.
2.PH being unsure about who is wolf has yet to decide who to switch his vote to.

The problem isn't just that he is mafia hunting, it's that

he's also telling others they need to be hunting wolf while making no effort whatosever to do so himself.

And your push on Rob was what, pre-mafia-claim? So that doesn't count.

Stop fucking evading

are you gonna attempt to counterlynch someone you've been calling obvtown all game?

I

am

seriously starting to consider you as Rob's teammate. Your play re: myself and PH makes sense from a mafia standpoint.

[Majiffy]

> Majiffy gets lynched
> Wolf kills Rob
> Anx gets lynched by PH & Tajun tomorrow
> Rob's wincon is not met

Gee, I wonder.

[Majiffy]

First fallacy

, not playing with a town-mindset. This fallacy stems from the fact that Majiffy claims I am mafia-hunting, and not wolf-hunting. While I clearly don't care which we lynch (preferentially the wolf, but I would lynch mafia over a no-lynch in a heart-beat), lynching either one DOES further the town's win-condition. Also, I have been very clear from the start of this game day that I haven't been faking wanting to ONLY lynch a wolf. Check here, here, and here for evidence.

More cogdis. You say you prefer lynching the Wolf, and all your "evidence" posts point towards you having a wolf-read on HD. Instead of voting your wolf-read, you vote your mafia-read. Which - mind you - you have also called on another living player in your "evidence". So by all discernable means, you have a stronger read on HD-wolf than you should/could have on me-mafia, so you're voting the less-optimal play, necessarily-weaker read.

Tell me again how you're wolf-hunting?

Mafia VS Wolf Hunting:

- If you actually look at my posts, my ISO's and analysis, all I have been doing is looking for who could be a wolf, and who might not be. I even titled this one The Wolf Hunt. You should also notice that my votes have all been on people whom I believe/believed to be wolves (HD, and Anxiety) up until 3-4 days to deadline for a compromise vote which I had been clear I would take since the beginning of the day.

Oh you did some pretty formatting and put up a nice front! That must mean you're

town

.
And cute that you're just now calling it a compromise vote. Certainly doesn't look that way in the linked post; looks more like you fell on your face trying to push an Anx lynch and had to double-back.

Second fallacy

is that I believe that Majiffy absolutely isn't a wolf. Completely and utterly false. Obviously this game is a game of probability, therefore nothing is absolute. While I have said time and time again that Majiffy reads mafia to me, there is still a chance he could be a wolf. If I had the opportunity to lynch someone who I read as mafia who could still potentially be a wolf, I would take that shot every single day.

The funny thing here is that I never said that you believe I'm absolutely not a wolf.

So... good job strengthening your argument with false points!

If you actually want to make an honest case, you are going to have to show where my wolf-hunting posts were faked and not real. You also need to show where I was mafia-hunting. Lastly, you are going to have to show how my interaction with Aldus could even remotely be playing toward a wolf-win-con.

I did, by proving that you have no intention of pursuing a wolf lynch.
I did, by proving that you prefer a washy mafia-read over a more solid wolf-read.
The third isn't actually a necessity to proving you can be wolf given the weighted evidence already. How about you show some interactions that prove you

can't

be wolf?

[Majiffy]

You're right Anx, went through all of your scum-games and I can't really find any wishy-washy play with any of your scum-buddies.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Majiffy

"Oh, I guess my points on you are invalid. Well, I guess I'll sheep you then.



Oh yeah that's L-1, btw (so you know if anyone wants to hammer hurry up plz)"

Wolf posting at its most blatant.

[Majiffy]

Yeah, good job.

[Majiffy]

Welp.

[Majiffy]

PH as wham-bam as your little me-Rob scenario looks, it's still pretty dead wrong. That said I don't think I can refute it beyond WIFOM, which is the worst of all arguments ever.

[Majiffy]

Well thats pretty much impossible at this point, unless both maf are sitting pretty and waiting to power lynch Rob tomorrow.

[Majiffy]

"Crunch time" being when your case on Anx fell through, you hopped on the largest wagon with the best chance to go through.

What "proofs" and "evidence" are you referencing? This is why quotes help.

I wouldn't know if there's anything else you need to address, you didn't quote anything.

[Majiffy]

The evidence would be in my prior posts. If you choose to ignore them, that would be your problem.

[Majiffy]

Right, you can stick your fingers in your ears and go lalalala but it's all right there in front of you, and I've explained it thoroughly enough.

I'm sure anyone with half a brain will realize that when they get on.

[Majiffy]

I'll be back in about ~22 hours.

[Majiffy]

postingfrom a friends phone probably won't be back before deadline but maybe. Ph lynch plz

[Majiffy]

Oh baby know I like it when you -

ah

And baby know you like it when I -

ah

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Tajun
Unlikely both maf were both voting wolf, HD can't be wolf, ergo Tajun is wolf, 4nx is last scum.

[Majiffy]

Not my fault he was being a little scumbutt.

[Majiffy]

Why have you concluded that HD isn't a maf?
Do you have a non-stupid reason for thinking HD isn't a wolf?
Does it not bother you that Rob was clearly intentionally misleading town?
Why should we believe that you that you aren't a wolf?

1) Irrelevant - need to lynch wolf today
2) HD gave a pretty convincing argument yesterday
3) Not really. Trying to read too much into WIFOM by an outted scum is like putting your head in the noose and kicking the chair out from under your legs.
4) Other than the fact that I'm not, dunnolol.

[Majiffy]

Although I will note that you didn't *technically* question the scum read on Anxiety, and you seem incredibly calm for someone who just vote voted in a MYLO/LYLO scenario.

[Majiffy]

Vote voted, lol

*got voted.

[Majiffy]

1) If HD is maf, 4nx wolf is consistent with your earlier post.

UNVOTE: Tajun

[Majiffy]

Well now I just feel dumb.

[Majiffy]

This guy.

[Majiffy]

Hold your breath
Cross your toes
Hope the scumbutt's
Where your vote goes!

VOTE: Anxiety

[Majiffy]

I'm willing to accept you as wolf.

[Majiffy]

And your play dramatically altered D4 so if you're going to bring the obvtown argument into it, you can stuff it. You turned into a little scumbutt during the last dayphase.

[Majiffy]

Rolling the dice.

And your play went from intelligent, thought-out participant to wild-eyed madman.

And yes, of course I was calling you obvtown at the start of day 4, that was before your behavior went downhill.

[Majiffy]

Being in a LYLO situation often results in dramatic playstyle changes in anti-town roles.

And I stopped putting forth effort around day 3. I am severely bored of this game.

[Majiffy]

HD why do your little quips blaming me come off so incredibly fake? You scum, brah?

[Majiffy]

[Majiffy]

If you're not scum then we're back to Tajun and Rob both voting together as scum at the end of the day yesterday. I find that highly unlikely for buddies near endgame.

[Majiffy]

Particularly ones that are trying to separate any associations with each other. And simultaneously trying to lynch anything that is not-them.

[Majiffy]

Anx maf doesn't make sense placing a vote on me. Maf needs to lynch wolf today or risk losing on a 50/50 night kill. Maf doesn't recklessly place a vote early in this scenario.

*

[Majiffy]

i'll think on this. Is there a good reason I should consider you town, or at the very least not wolf?

Yeah, I'm town.

I'm not very akin to arguing from the point of things-which-I-am-not. Give me a majwolf case and I'll tell you why it doesn't fit.

[Majiffy]

i'll think on this. Is there a good reason I should consider you town, or at the very least not wolf?

Give me a majwolf case and I'll tell you why it doesn't fit.

PoE. HD town and Tajun mafia.

Anx wolf, problem solved.

Next.

[Majiffy]

I agree on HD-not-wolf. Possibly scum, but I'm not looking for scum today so I don't particularly care about him in that regard.

[Majiffy]

This game is dreadful.

[Majiffy]

Is that supposed to be to me?

[Majiffy]

Thank you for setting my mind at ease that you aren't wolf.

[Majiffy]

YES

OH GOD YES.

My existence this game:





Now I'm off to work. I'll be back for meaningful discussion in appx. 9 hours.

[Majiffy]

Dang. Nice shot. Did you have me figured, or was it a lucky guess?

I spent about 4 hours reading uct and Rob's ISOs over and over looking for associative tells.

I saw a lot of anti-associative tells with Rob-HD.

Still felt like a potshot though.

[Majiffy]

In fact I sent some frenzied PMs to Josh asking for him to confirm if I won or not before he opened the thread, lol.

[Majiffy]

Needed to keep myself from getting lynched, which meant keeping all my options open.

[Majiffy]

Oh, also thanks to Josh for the modding, everything went smoothly.

^^^

[Majiffy]

Oh we had a QT?

[Majiffy]

Sorry to let you down, Thor.

[Majiffy]

IIRC you looked townie as shit to me and I figured you were never getting lynched.

But I can't be certain on account of the fact that there's no record of my thoughts in the QT and it was a long time ago.

[Majiffy]

When you're the last scum on your team at day start the second day phase, the tendency is to push your luck as far as you can...

[Majiffy]

Yeah I doubt I'll be able to pull something like that off again with this playerlist.