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Sorry folks! Didn't realize game had started! I'm sure I haven't missed much, Random Vote Phase and all, but I am here.
Hirakai, in the last game we played, you usually made posts that were 1-2 sentences. Should I expect the same thing in this game?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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The Whisker wagon rose quickly, but it was really small too. Not even half the votes necessary for lynch, by my count. The people who cried out over it are probably more suspicious than those that voted in the first place, by way of trying to hard to seem like concerned town. For what it's worth, I view Whisker's comment as unidicitative of alignment. Null.
I disagree with Irish's comment about quickhammers being useful. Lynches and discussion are useful, but a mad rush to kill somebody only helps the mafia hide among the stupid and gullible townies.
Syryana's shameful jump to Irish-wagon has been noted. As for the wagon itself, I think it may have merit. Might be worth a Day 1 lynch, I'll consider it. For now, I'll help to build up the RachMarie counter wagon. Regardless of her alignment, I think I'll have a better chance of winning if she dies.
vote: RachMarie
For the record, I think it's weird that people flipped out when Whisker had 3 votes, but now Irish has 5 votes and we're all cool with it."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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My statements against RachMarie are simple. If RachMarie is town, then I don't think she'll be very useful at finding scum. To the contrary, she'll probably easily manipulated by the scum throughout the game and end up voting innocent townsfolk. On top of that, I have a very difficult time getting a read on her, based on her posting style. If she's scum, then day 1 scumlynch-- can't complain. I feel that this was a good opening vote, better than any OMGUS/RVS garbage at least.
But my vote is more than just a personal preference of mine. I can already tell that she's impatient to draw blood. 'Lurkers' seem to be getting under her skin, even though we're only 4 days into the game. But at the same time, most of her posts are fluff.. avatar discussion, popemobile, and setup theory? There's no meat. No scumhunting.
I still haven't decided whether or not to jump on the IrishWagon, but I want to mention that this post seems scummy to me:
... wherein Irish speaks to Whiskers as if he knows that Whiskers is town.In post 159, TheIrishPope wrote:Think of me as scum, vote for me. That's fine. However, I shit you not, I am not scum."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Geez, I don't know if I should post any more. Two posts in, and apparently I'm the scummiest guy ever. I know it's been a while since I've played mafia, so maybe the definition of "tunneling" has changed. It used to mean somebody who would relentlessly and blindly pursue a lynch, not somebody who justifies their opening vote.
I had skimmed Rach's posts, and I don't think anything I said was untrue. As I've said, RachMarie is a difficult player for me to get a read on.
When I made that post about Irish having inside knowledge, I was hoping to provoke a reaction from him. His response was satisfactory. I was more surprised at Survivor's defense of him.
I don't understand why Irish said I was 50% scum, then said I was 98.83% scum after his 'reread'. I've only made two posts so far. What new evidence did you find against me that you had previously overlooked?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Is she flipping out? Seems like she's just being very hyperbolic-- lots of sarcasm. Although, I'm not sure what was up with those randomly bolded letters in her post. "O-P-L-S"... secret mafia code?
Whiskers, if you consider Irish to be "likely noob town", then why are you voting him? Don't you have any better leads?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I don't think voting somebody without explanation is going to get much of a reaction, aside from a "Why?" (which Marie gave you)."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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What was the point?
Also, why did you ignore the other, more important question I asked, Whiskers?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Alright, I'll lay off RachMarie for now. Between Hiraki's confirmation of her meta, and everyone else pointing out that I've made incorrect points, it's clear that I have no case. It was probably confirmation bias on my part. I'll still probably have a difficult time determining her alignment, though.
unvote: RachMarie
Tomorrow (if I have time), I will review the case on Irish and determine whether or not I support his lynch for Day 1.
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Whiskers, are you telling me that you are voting for Irish because he's difficult to read and also not scumhunting enough? Because that's what I think you said.
DCLXVI, you seem to be jumping for easy wagon to easy wagon. In particular, you jumped onto Irish's wagon, then jumped off and distanced yourself from it, with no commentary inbetween. Why did you go from 'lynch it with fire' to 'I'm staying away' within 24 hours? I'm placing my vote on you for now.
vote: DCLXVI"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Speaking of inconsistency,
Still waiting for an explanation.MBF wrote: I don't understand why Irish said I was 50% scum, then said I was 98.83% scum after his 'reread'. I've only made two posts so far. What new evidence did you find against me that you had previously overlooked?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Irish at 5 votes: "I WILL NEVER BE LYNCHED"
Irish at 6 votes: "Oh shit, Imma get lynched"
(reviewing now)"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Uh, the cop claim was quite obviously a joke. I was in the middle of analyzing Irish, and we had 16 days left before deadline. What gives?
I don't think all this "Go join a newb game, newb" dialogue is appropriate."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I am, but it seems pointless, since the mod could come in at any moment and end day phase."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Upon review I think, ultimately, I don't have a problem with Irish's lynch. The vibe I get from him is that he pushes somebody, but backs off when they push back. He seems to be trying to take the path of least resistance to get somebody lynched.
But I wouldn't have cast the lynching vote on him tonight. I don't agree with the votes from Method, Notes, or DCLXVI. I don't even think Notes is still playing.
I don't think Hiraki's joke is any more damning that Irish's... aside from the fact that it literally damned him."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Hiraki, yesterday you said Whiskers was dumb town. Are you going to be inconsistent as well?
I think she's onto something with the Monty vote. That opening post seems crafted to persuade us to talk about whether or not we chose to use our abilities last night."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Oh, wait, I get it now. You say that scum are shitty players, and that Whiskers is a shitty player, ergo Whiskers is scum."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Well, apparently there's some justification to Syryana's lynch, but I don't see it. Once Survivor enlightens me, I may be able to weigh in. As I said before: I don't think voting somebody without explanation is going to get much of a reaction, aside from a "Why?"
Until then, I think we collectively need to hold DLCXVI accountable for his behavior.
1) He helped build up the Irish wagon, then swiftly jumped off, then quickly back on to hammer.
2) He prematurely hammered Irish, cutting town discussion short by two weeks. This happened 25 hours after he said he would stay away from the wagon.
3) When I joined the game, I made an opening policy vote against RachMarie and was run up the flagpole. DCLXVI made a policyLYNCH, which is much much worse.
vote: DCLXVI"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Can you explain the difference between these statements?:In post 313, DCLXVI wrote:Actually no, it was not worse, I can't see how you could consider Rachmarie to be so detrimental to the town that she must be lynched no matter what, On the other hand, I was as lenient as I could be with TiP but it became clear that it would not be beneficial to the town to have him around in later days and potential lylo. Was his lynch too hasty, quite possibly. There are some town mislynches I regret pushing, this wasn't one of them though.
If RachMarie is town, then I don't think she'll be very useful at finding scum. ... If she's scum, then day 1 scumlynch-- can't complain.You are scum or you are a retard. You will not be missed either way."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Wrong. The difference is that my vote was my first post of the game, and your vote was a sudden hammer that got an innocent townie killed.In post 326, DCLXVI wrote:One is false the other is true. I would say that is a pretty significant difference.
You see, I do not view rachmarie as someone who will be a hindrance to the town and I am extremely perplexed as to why you would come to that conclusion. However, I do/did view TiP as someone who was not being helpful to the town.
Therefor, what I did was definitely not worse than what you did because rachmarie was in no way shape or form deserving of a policy vote or lynch whereas TiP most certainly was.
I find your reckless behavior and self-contradiction to be hindrances to the town. I voted you yesterday for being opportunistic, and you've only gotten worse.
You die today."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I understand Method and Survivor's votes on Syryana. Not Hiraki's, though.
Hiraki, are you voting Syryana because "scum are stupid, Syryana is stupid, therefore Syryana is scum", or are you just riding the coattails of others?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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In post 349, mikeburnfire wrote:I understand Method and Survivor's votes on Syryana. Not Hiraki's, though.
Hiraki, are you voting Syryana because "scum are stupid, Syryana is stupid, therefore Syryana is scum", or are you just riding the coattails of others?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Maybe. Unless I saw some really good posting from her, or somebody else seemed to be obviously scum, there would be no reason to move my vote.Nacho wrote: But you would have went for the [Rach] lynch if you could have, right?
No I'm not. I'm contrasting my opening vote to DXLXVI's hammer vote.Whiskers wrote:Mike is still pressing the "Rach is too dumb to town" bit, which she, err, isn't?
As I said, he looked bad yesterday, even before the quickhammer. I'm honestly surprised more people are attacking Hiraki and Syryana and just giving DCLXVI a free pass.Not to mention pursuing 6Cat over his quickhammer.
It's more than a quickhammer though. It was a quickhammer he madeMike's attacks on 6Cat re:hammer aren't bad-- it's easy to see a quickhammer, any quickhammer, as scummy. It's my opinion that this wasn't, though.aftercalling Irish "noob town"
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Hiraki, you spent most of yesterday apologizing for not posting enough. Today you've been playing terribly and haven't been helping find scum. If you're going to play this game, then play it it. If not, then replace out and let somebody else do it.
You're probably town, given how DCLXVI jumped on your bandwagon opportunistically, and how everyone else doesn't seem to realize that bad play =/= scum play. But I won't shed a tear if you get killed for your behavior."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Whiskers, you talk too much. I'm not trying to discourage activity, but I can't keep following you. You've made 1/5 of all posts this game, and you've changed your vote 4 times within the last 24 hours.
Can you give me a TL;DR of who you suspect and why?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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hint hint WHAT."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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This town is so stupidly incompetent that I'm beginning to think that the only way to catch scum is going to be with successful vig kills.
Hiraki, you have 48 hours to make a post that isn't garbage."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I didn't realize that your meta was to make one good post on day 1, then spam nonsense until you got lynched. I've only played one other game with you, and you seemed much more helpful in that one.
Tell me again, what were your reasons for suspecting those players? TAM is lurky, Monty is yucky, Syryana is shitty, and no reason given for Nacho/awestfie?
Such compelling cases."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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This is pretty vague and lacking content.In post 407, Hiraki wrote:
This is pretty bad.In post 15, awestfie wrote:Fairly certain there isn't a "rule" as to when you should decide to arm yourself, and if there is, there shouldn't be one; I honestly don't see the question as "paranoia," just looks like scum trying to blend in by asking a question that town would be asking themselves, and not publicly. Why would town be so worried about arming themselves this early? There's no "paranoia" to be have here, at this point."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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The irony.In post 429, Hiraki wrote:
Are you going shitpost this entire game?In post 427, MontyWhittaker wrote:So, how about that no lynch? What are some viable concerns to this strategy?
Monty, No Lynch is a terrible option because lynching is the only reliable way that we have of killing scum. We shouldn't depend on vig-kills because there's no guarantee that they'll succeed, or that there's any left for that matter. Quite honestly, I feel that when you bring this up, you're just fishing for information on who has already used their nightkills."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I will if you put some effort into the game."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I'm not the only one who thinks you're not putting any effort into this game.Hiraki wrote:I'm sorry I don't spoonfeed but don't say I don't put effort into the game. I do, whether or not you are able to see it.
Nacho wrote:But the real dessert is Hiraki. He's had one real catch-up post that was saying pretty much nothing, accomplished nothing, white-knighted the hell out of the TiP wagon without making any attempt to start a counterwagon (notice the lack of a vote for all day 1). Today, he starts out by voting a townread and only votes his "top scumread" when a wagon is established. He's scum-coasting hard.RachMarie wrote:Sorry dude that does not fly... I know you are capable of better than this...Whiskers wrote:Will you show [effort] to us, after the game is over?
So that's 5 players who think you're playing terribly.... 6 if we include DCLXVI. I called you town *once*, but it won't stop me from voting you if you won't play.Survivor wrote: he doesn't look to be putting in much effort.
Why are DLC and Whiskers town?Method wrote:Just so you know, I've given up on my ISO's because Goddamn it, I have enough real life stress.
What do you think about the current wagon on Hiraki?
What do you think of Monty proposing we forfeit the lynch?
What is your opinion of RachMarie?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Did you just confuse Rach and Syryana?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Also,"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I'm not sure what "passive support" you're talking about. I promised to do a full review of Irish, but DCLXVI quick-hammered before I was done....while continuing to passively support the suspicions towards IP. Who on looking ahead to the D1 lynch…I note mbf was conspicuously off that mislynch. FoS mbf.
I did, I just forgot to mention it a second time.@mbf…you didn’t have a problem with Syr’s vote on IP?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I feel like a lot of people are ignoring posts I made directly to them."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Oh great. Another player who doesn't want to play. Do I have to harass you until you quit as well?In post 455, Whiskers wrote:I am. Let me tell you exactly: I 100% am ignoring it. I'm avoiding giving reads because I don't have good reasons behind them and I don't want to take the time to readthrough again. What you would see is
Hypothetical Whiskers wrote:X: town. good posts.
Y: scum. gut.
Z: scum. OMGUS.
err, uh, who else is playing?
Let's just start off with something simple then. Who are your top three scumreads and why? Is there anybody who seems exceptionally townie to you?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Yes, I wonder why Syryana isn't posting as well. Fitz, do you any idea why?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I'll admit that 163 looks worse now that we know Irish was town, but Syry's vote was opportunistic and cowardly, hiding behind Method. My reprimand is still valid.I made two mentions with links of you insinuating suspicions towards IP without actually doing anything. The post 163 link and a few lines above it where I mentioned you reprimanding Syr for voting IP. My comments stand.
We're not going to no-lynch today. You can either be a part of today's lynch and start scumhunting, or continue to abstain and get lynched yourself.Still hard supporting a no-lynch. We have the capability to kill scum in this setup without lynching anyone and simultaneously getting better reads for tomorrow."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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vote: Whiskers
Answer my question.Who do you think is scum and why?
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Monty.Same question. Since you haven't said anything yet, who do you think is scum and why?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Fitz is still alive; it's Notes that died.In post 489, Fegelein wrote:Just to let you know how I will be operating. I'm going to be using my scum/Town point substitute system, and I will be analysing the first 100 hundred posts at a time before having a short break, and then continuing. Currently analysing the first parts of the game, although you must bear in mind that I have hindsight bias of TIP and havingfits's flip, so it might be a little difficult to fairly judge them on that."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Are you seriously criticizing Feng?In post 510, MontyWhittaker wrote:Ooh, but your system is nice, feg. Love the arbitrary placing of "points" based on how much you agree with the actions taken in the posts in question.
You, the person who has donenothingin terms of scumhunting?
unvote Wiskers,vote: Monty
Don't think I'm giving you a free pass, Whiskers. You still haven't given me an answer to my question."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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How. How how how.In post 513, MontyWhittaker wrote:To be perfectly honest, I saw Hiraki as more town than anything else. Feng has done nothing but begin to change that belief.
Hiraki did nothing. NOTHING.
Feng is scumhunting.
How is it even possible that Hiraki would be town but Feng is scum.
Also, if you "saw Hiraki as town", thenwhy didn't you say so?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I can't spend the rest of the day trying to encourage other players to talk. Whiskers, Monty, and Method need to start doing actual scum-hunting, or town is screwed.
DCLXVI is the scummiest and most opportunistic, and most likely to be scum. He hammered town-Irish, joined Syryana's wagon when it was at 4/6 votes, and now he's on the easy Hiraki/Feng's wagon.
unvote, vote DCLXVI
Kill him."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Doesn't change what I said. If DCLXVI is scum, then it's highly likely that they are indeed town.In post 521, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Do you think they are town? Because personally, I think you were just wowed by a bunch of bullshit.In post 519, mikeburnfire wrote:he's on the easy Hiraki/Feng's wagon.
And Feng's "bullshit" pbp is still more of a contribution to this game than Method, Monty, and Hiraki combined. So I'm willing to give him a pass for now."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Is this directed at me?In post 526, RachMarie wrote:if you think so little of Monty (and I can see why he really has not contributed much) then why you no vote him ? Do you think he is not scummy enough? Or is it that you think other dude is scummier? or that monty is town and being a lazy butt and kinda a VI? Please do let us in to how your mind works thanks"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I did vote him. I don't approve of how little he has contributed, and I don't like what little I've seen. I only switched to DCLXVI because it's getting closer to deadline, and I'd prefer his lynch over Feng's.if you think so little of Monty (and I can see why he really has not contributed much) then why you no vote him ? Do you think he is not scummy enough?
It sounds like you have a history with DCL. Can you clue us in to his meta? Is he normally terrible when he's a townie?Fitz wrote:I've had a town read on DCL (which is unusual for me) and the votes he has received recently (all from players I suspect) only increases my town view towards DCL and my suspicion of those on his wagon.
Fair enough, but Feng is really putting himself out there if he's scum. Would have been easier to coast.Nacho wrote:
That's very true, but I'm going to lynch scum whether they decide to contribute or not.In post 524, mikeburnfire wrote:And Feng's "bullshit" pbp is still more of a contribution to this game than Method, Monty, and Hiraki combined. So I'm willing to give him a pass for now."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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@ Nacho
You're just mad that you're currently at net +4 scumpoints."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Then why would you have a town read on DCL, who has done nothing except hurt the town?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Your vote currently sits alone on a wagon that will not rally enough support for a lynch today."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I got poked. Not much new to say, though.
I still prefer a DCLXVI lynch. Apparently there are more than a few players willing to lynch Monty, and I'm okay with that. Still want Whiskers to tell me who he suspects."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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You need to work on your acting."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Or, more likely, she's trying to pretend to be a townie.
Maybe if she would pretend to scumhunt I might believe her."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Hurry up and mislynch Fenglien already."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Null.In post 577, Nachomamma8 wrote:What's your read on Rach?
You've got to be kidding me.In post 582, Whiskers wrote:I have a townread on ##Cat and don't see a case on him.
Are you serious? You blatantly ignore my questions to you, and then callIn post 583, Whiskers wrote:Also scumreads on Mike & Acting-- all independently, no associative tells.MEscum?
I'm fine with killing any of {DCLXVI, Monty, Whiskers}. I'm more confident about DCLXVI than Monty, though. Seriously.
@Nacho, Method, Rach:
None of you three have given an opinion about DCLXVI or Monty. Please do.
@Method:
Please play game kthxbye"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Sorry, I don't follow. What are you asking me?In post 614, havingfitz wrote:
So these three are town and town's best hope?In post 519, mikeburnfire wrote:Whiskers, Monty, and MethodI guess not?
I don't believe I've changed much at all.Monty wrote:MBF, your reads as you have stated them have completely switched, which is understandable as a full 100 posts of material have been presented since you posted them. With that said, could you enlighten us as to how you got your current town and scum reads?
Foremost is DCLXVI, whose wagon I've been trying to rally all day. I don't like his wagon-hopping+speedhammer opportunism Day 1. Today he began by opportunistically voting Hiraki . Furthermore, I feel his vote for Monty is (surprise surprise) opportunistic. He's just repeating arguments that were made earlier, only louder.
Secondly, you [Monty] have not been scumhunting at all this game, and you even openly admit it:"I wasn't very active at all in pushing for anyone, town or scum." (616)Aside from DCLXVI (the case against whom had been long-standing), you have not expressed a desire to find scum. You've also been wasting a lot of time advocating that we throw away our lynch.
Thirdly is Whiskers. She posts like crazy, but like you she doesn't try to scumhunt:"I'm avoiding giving reads because I don't have good reasons behind them and I don't want to take the time to readthrough again." (455). If you look are her post history, a lot of what she says is just random interruptions. Most recently, Fitz has asked me a question, and Whiskers answered. Then Feng asked DCLXVI a question, and Whiskers answered. Yet, when I directly asked her who she suspected, she outright ignored me.
I have a null or town read on everybody else. Fitz and Method are 'leaning scum', but nothing stands out to me yet."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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No, I find that to be a very unlikely scenario.Nacho wrote:Do you think Monty and DCL are scum together?
You thought wrong.Fitz wrote:I took mbf's Post 519 comments? to imply that he thought town was in trouble if those 3 players didn't start doing some scumhunting (i.e. exactly what he said) and therefore he must have thought those players were town (because why would scum not scumhunting screw town?). When I noticed 4-5 pages later that he was fine with killing 2 of the 3 people he mentioned in Post 519 I thought it was a contradiction."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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All three of them can't be scum. Or rather, if they are, then I'm not too worried.
The main problem would be if we get to LyLo with three players who have barely said anything, and we have little to determine who is town or scum among them.
I suppose we can disregard that scenario, since Monty's about to be killed."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Whiskers, you are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I don't begrudge Monty for trying to discuss the ramifications of a No-Lynch, especially given that he's fairly new.
It's the lack of any scumhunting that really hurts us. And yes, the way he remained quiet during Hiraki debacle also counts against him.
My biggest problem with this wagon is that it's a distraction from DCLXVI. I can feel in my gut that he's scum, and I can't see him being partnered with Monty.
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If I have my votecount correct, there's currently 3 wagons at 3 votes, and Fitz's lone vote on Whiskers. Looks like you're about to get your wish for a No-Lynch, Monty."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I'm not going to repeat my case a third time, especially not for somebody who's been coasting the whole game. Go look back at my posts.In post 668, The Acting Method wrote: Mike, please give me a reason why we shouldn't lynch Feng today (correction, give me a case on why DCL is a much better lynch than Feng.)
Is Feng town? Maybe. Regardless of whether or not you enjoy his points system, he's shown a desire to scumhunt. That alone makes him better than Monty, Method, and Whiskers combined. His wagon is currently inhabited by Nacho, Rach, and Method, none of whom has presented a worthwhile case against him. The most I got from that is along the lines of 'his points system sucks', which is a garbage reason.
The only reason I have to even consider a Feng lynch is that his points system was setup in a way where he could give some opinions and wait to receive some feedback, which could let him feel out where the easy lynches are. That's kinda scummy. But he's actually scumhunting, and his wagon is crap, so don't expect me to hop on anytime soon."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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All I see is an attempt to rush a lynch on a lurker, and desperate self-preservation. Of all the reasons to want to lynch TAM, you picked"he said 'several... kind-of', but he only had one!"
Monty's wagon looses momentum, so you jump off, then you repeat the preexisting case against him and promise to hop back on soon. Sounds like scum play to me."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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At that time Feng had a large bandwagon from Nacho, Rach, Method, and you. Furthermore, Fitz, Survivor, Whiskers had just stated an intent to join. Your jump off was strategic.If I was interested in self preservation my vote would have stayed on feg."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I agree with that, but I don't think it's a strong tell."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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