Open 544: Tit for Tat (Game Over)

[Saki]

two tasty wagons
which one
do i hop on

sakura <3

[Saki]

No Stone Unturned (Varsoon + pieguyn hydra)

just saw this

damn that is one sexy hydra

[Saki]

VOTE: Malakittens

[Saki]

bingo.

mala and cele get townpoints

[Saki]

pagetop

[Saki]

oh fuck

mb

[Saki]

VOTE: Lor

sorry sakura

[Saki]

@Lincolm:

I can't quite follow why you think Hopkirk is scum. Can you restate your reasons?

FoS: Saki

We haven't gotten anything from you but votes without reason under the pretext of "reaction testing". Also, that vote on Lor after he voted you isn't looking good either.

I feel like the Flames wagon is scum-motivated, for the record. No way does a wagon get 5 votes in 5 pages on D1 without scum being there.

-V

How many scum do you think are in the wagon?

This is how Saki plays though

Just saying that meta is unreliable.

@Captain Picard:

What do you think of Saki's posts? They're not exactly active, but not full of content either.

why me, the low hanging fruit

why not throw a vote instead of a fos, when you can be more reckless with votes (in early-game)

[Saki]

Mala why aren't you voting

[Saki]

Not Voting (1) - Malakittens

[Saki]

so why aren't you voting

[Saki]

Please view this game to examine my scum hunting skills. I was able to single-handedly take down all of the scum by myself, as such I would like the town to trust me in lynching the scum that is Tla. Thanks.


Meta info: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=36915

I've had TiP as my scumbuddy and he's ubernoobish, and he was the only scum in that game so wow, I'm not impressed at all.

dat ego

[Saki]

meep.

[Saki]

meep.

this is a prod-dodge btw

[Saki]

@Saki: who do you currently think is scum?

o sorry I'll get to this

[Saki]

Hi

Caligno

Ankamius



UNVOTE:

[Saki]

Vote Count 1.17

Flames of Disaster (2) - Tlachta C, thenewearth
Ankamius (2) - No Stone Unturned, Lorantheceae
Tlachta C (1) - Flames of Disaster
Lorantheceae (1) - Saki
Hopkirk (1) - Ibarra
Saki (1) - MTD
thenewearth (1) - Hopkirk

Not Voting (3) - Malakittens, Captain Picard, Ankamius

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-01-31 06:08:00)

Malakittens is V/LA through January 27th

UNVOTE:

Sakura, I unvoted.

Fixed, thanks!

[Saki]

BTW I know Saki enough to know that this playstyle isn't really unnatural for him.

does that constitute me being town tho?

[Saki]

nvm i can answer that question

[Saki]

hmm this game :<

[Saki]

Just grabbed a couple games of his randomly:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=29903

This game is where Saki was town, he seems a lot more involved in the game, paticularly stuff like ISO#: 18. I have yet to see anything like that from him here.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This one, same thing, and as a town PR he posts a LOT.

I'd say he is playing more like this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30960

Anyhow, off to work, eagerly awaiting your answer, Ank

Players Viera Assassin and NSin are also me.

just a tip if you're planning to metadive me

[Saki]

Picard is town.

Just grabbed a couple games of his randomly:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=29903

This game is where Saki was town, he seems a lot more involved in the game, paticularly stuff like ISO#: 18. I have yet to see anything like that from him here.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This one, same thing, and as a town PR he posts a LOT.

I'd say he is playing more like this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30960

Anyhow, off to work, eagerly awaiting your answer, Ank

this+jk claim

[Saki]

Part of me thinks Picard is scum just begging for a CC at this point.

why would he do so, if he wasn't even under much flak in the first place

[Saki]

part of me wants to believe everything ank is saying atm but gut tells me I shouldn't
(and I should probably put some effort in instead of sheeping)

[Saki]

and hi Titus.

Are you scum?

[Saki]

atm my understanding of the game is 'omg everyone flames is scum > omg everyone saki and mala are not providing content > omg everyone picard > omg everyone anka'

and some repetition of this

[Saki]

How can you get a good gutread from flames/Zekrom?

Saki, glad to see you again. I will need a good reaction test for you.

I saw this while ISOing Mala.

regarding Titus, she is scum. Always. No matter what.
<3


I can safely say Mala wasn't bussing anyone (I haven't really seen her do so in the past, either)

She didn't have any solid reads, either.

let me try to post enough content so that our lurker-hunting vig doesn't go for me next

[Saki]

Mala was doing a crappy whiteknight that could be seen from a mile away as scummy.

I didn't see this in her ISO
kindly point it out to me

Saki, why do you assume the vig was hunting lurkers?

mala and I had no content and were passed for vigbait

Also, you seem really defensive over lack of content.

not rly

[Saki]

w.e

are you going to tunnel me again
because I'm not going to 1v1

[Saki]

Ladies and gentlemen, Titus.

[Saki]

wtf 596 lol

[Saki]

every single one of lor's posts is like wtfman.

[Saki]

what are you smoking

[Saki]

I'm just extremely confused as to why people are taking Loranthaceae seriously.

[Saki]

The thing is I know what you did last summer.

Is she an ika alt or something

[Saki]

by the way, where is everyone else anyways

I don't think I've seen Hopkirk or Tsukasa post recently

[Saki]

oh god I looked to op and realized that Titus replaced NSU

lol

[Saki]

Titus, could you please explain that Loran scumread?
You obviously don't agree with his posts, but I fail to see why it makes him scum...

Saki, who do you think is scum?

mala

[Saki]

I really really want to say Titus and Lor but I p much know they aren't scum

Maybe Sakura?

but in all honesty
I want to hear more from Ibarra, Tsukasa, and Hopkirk before I answer that question.

[Saki]

dodge

[Saki]

nuuu.

[Saki]

1 hour to prod me

so no

[Saki]

I really really want to say Titus and Lor but I p much know they aren't scum

Maybe Sakura?

but in all honesty
I want to hear more from Ibarra, Tsukasa, and Hopkirk before I answer that question.

It's been a long time, feel like saying something now?

I'm back

holyfuck textwalls

notreadinglol

[Saki]

ok serious business

I like the replacements except for jon

and hopkirk is scum

[Saki]

Beside my expressing a desire to maybe compromise vote on your slot, can you maybe explain your not liking me? Maybe it's just me that you don't like, and has nothing to do with my alignment.

your avatar is ugly

(its actually ok don't get all offended)

um and yeah, gut.

[Saki]

@Saki, god damn it. You are going to drive me fucking nuts. Jon is town. Stop it and come play with me. Test me. Give me fucking SOMETHING!

Titus town. Lor town.

Hopkirk scum.

jon is fishy.
so is Hayate, upon re-examination.
^ who's alt is this?


How do I know this? Gut.
It wins games.

[Saki]

other 3 games I read

which are these threee

I understand what you're doing now

and what the fuck do you mean

[Saki]

Touhou

this one is ongoing

[Saki]

ask me something and you will have your answer

i try not to speak unless I am spoken to

[Saki]

Saki, are you ok with lynching neil and vigging Ank?

I'd rather see the you and the Hopkirk slot gone first.

@ Saki I've spoken to you several times to no avail, getting help from you is a lost cause.

You probably buried it in the middle of a wall. I don't read walls.

[Saki]

@Ank/Loran, how the fuck are you both reading Saki as town?

because Ank loves me and I haven't talked shit to Loran or called him scum yet.

[Saki]

What is your opinion on lynch subjects? Who should the town focus on, and why?

Loran for the headaches he causes Ank and Titus.
Given what I know of those two I want them thinking clearly.

and I'm also pretty damn sure the latter is town. I don't take the members of that hydra to be people that would flake on a scumgame.


Hopkirk-slot for lurking.
idgaf if I'm being hypocritial

Also, Hayate.
I saw consistent effort from both jon and neil but that one posted once and left.
And lying about being an alt. I honestly don't think someone that was new would immediately replace into an Open game.
(or be allowed to)

[Saki]

I think everyone should name 3 candidates in the order you'd like them lynched, and then we can decide where to go from there.

stuff like this is what makes me want to vote you
and at the same time makes me feel that you're obvtown as fuck

[Saki]

VOTE: Loranthaceae

[Saki]

That was a serious vote.

[Saki]

w.e then.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hayate Yagami

[Saki]

enough of this day

VOTE: Hayate

[Saki]

um I'm wrong. That's a lynch.

@Jon, what I'd be doing is I would be looking through the VCs to determine who voted Neil and why. I have no intentions of doing that pre-flip as it would take a lot of time, especially for an assumption I believe to be false. I'd be looking for someone who did everything in their power to avoid voting neil without defending him hard (what I am doing). Scum will rarely bus in this scenario IMO, so that's who I would be looking at. Gut says Hayate or Ank though.

Way to ruin a hammer gambit man.

Also, I saw the gambit, that's why I didn't respond or say anything. I was waiting to see if anyone bit. (Bit? Bite? Bited? Grr...)

I'm questioning the motives behind these lines.
They all seem scummy as fuck.

UNVOTE:

[Saki]

...or we could save our lovely mod the trouble of replacing the slot and also save the player replacing in from being at L-1 by lynching Hayate already.

[Saki]

I'm so confused right now... so Day 2 continues until a replacement is found? So if we don't lynch before a replacement takes the game, we're going to no-lynch?

In that case: UNVOTE: Hayate

VOTE: Neil_1113

At least with my flip, we'll get some information. Now you (Jon) and Loran can hammer me so we don't no lynch. I feel like no lynching would be worse than me dying and showing everyone my alignment. I'd rather the town have SOME information then NONE. Even if it's one of their own that died. Please hurry though before a replacement is found. I don't want to go to a no-lynch, that's not going to help the town at all.

24 hours after replacement is found is deadline.

[Saki]

Mr. Vig, sorry about Loran.
I was wrong.
Please shoot neil instead.

[Saki]

lynch him please

pleeeeeaaaaasssssseeeeeeeee

[Saki]

don't you atleast want info?

why isn't it in the first post that you made then

why doesn't your first post mention at all anything but "omg don't lynch meee"

why does your first post say that you're at l-1 when you actually are at l-2?



that post screams "omg don't lynch poor me" AtE
and has no concrete reasons as to why we shouldn't lynch you

[Saki]

I see I am at L -1 and I haven't even said anything yet!

I am actually a vanilla townie

in his first post
c'mon let's lynch him

btw Sakura 24 hours is too harsh, you should give him at least 48.

[Saki]

you better take those 24 extra hours lucky
if you have the gall to complain about being lynched too fast

[Saki]

VOTE: neil

Intent to hammer Lucky if it comes down to it.

Get off your butts people, deadlines are closer than they look.

[Saki]

VOTE: neil

[Saki]

5 hours to deadline and why the hell is a flashwagon attempt happening
but since it is w.e

VOTE: Loran

[Saki]

VOTE: No lynch

Out of the weekend.

We are in mylo.

That's assuming that the vig will shoot.

[Saki]

will not shoot*/shoot scum

[Saki]

Yes, Saki. I don't do well with trusting others to make the call. Hence why I am headstrong and yell at everyone to give me what I want. I am working on it.

your "no-lynch to get to lylo" plan only works if the vig doesn't shoot

you aren't making any sense here titus

if you were headstrong and wouldn't trust others to make the call you would push through a lynch for your #1 scumread right here and now because that's the only way to prevent loss by vigderp

[Saki]

VOTE: Lucky2u

I really really do think he should die.

[Saki]

I'm still not seeing Ankamius/Titus scum and would like to carry though with the Lucky2u lynch.

If he's not scum, then we lose.
If he's scum, then we lynch Titus the next day for the win.

[Saki]

If he's scum, then we lynch Titus the next day for the win.

...for counterwagoning Lucky.
>_>
Should be enough evidence for me to blow up my townread on Titus.

Though I'm seeing how Ank isn't all that town either, he should be posting more than he has before in MyLo if he's town

he's not.

[Saki]

nvmd he did post after daystart

[Saki]

there's 6 left so

lynches need four

there's two scum

they can't quickhammer

[Saki]

and if you didn't like my vote what do you think of titus's nl vote

[Saki]

unvote and vote lucky please

[Saki]

VOTE: Lucky2u

[Saki]

i'm stupid

i should've claimed d3 and went for Titus after her comments regarding lucky and whether or not the vig should claim
that was my final stab at someone's alignment at that point and I definitely shouldn't have let Titus off the hook for disagreeing

I picked up on neil's fakeclaim and decided to shoot someone else, MTD was a gut-driven kill

i had suspicions regarding titus+ank d3 but then posts disappeared and I flaked for about 4ish days
that probably cost us the game imo and all I can do is apologize

[Saki]

yeah

all I can say is that I'm sorry

I didn't even crumb
Confbias on NSU-Titus
MTD kill was a half-assed decision
Gave up N3...

welp, nice going scum
sorry town ~_~

[Saki]

Yeah, the MTD kill shocked the living daylights out of me. Plus, it screwed the narrative up for the group and made MTD look like a scum kill. Totally beneficial.

I don't think you would have had much success with the grilling me for disagreeing. I was too interwoven with the town at that point Saki. Common practice is to NL at Mylo. I probably would have pushed it harder. It still was the best decision, given all four towns had to agree on a lynch plan.

I would've grilled you for a combination of defending lucky, disagreeing with the vig claiming, and having that sudden trajectory switch to dopog
imo I thought you would go after Lucky or Ank after the neil lynch, not jon (assuming you were town)

idk if it would've worked tho, like you said

[Saki]

stupid jk

[Saki]

I'm debating getting an alt for the reasons you've said Jon. I have no less than 3 people who have relayed these sentiments spontaneously.

(people on this site totally don't alt-hunt like hungry hyenas)