Open 545: Nothing to Hide (Game over!! MAFIA WINS!!!)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Tvk

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Hey everybody. I'm reading up and will give my thoughts later today. For now I have at least these questions.

@ABR: Why the vote for TvK? What do you think about the game right now?

Hilarious and lucky. Just the way I like it.

I voted TvK as RVS.

Vote: TvK

This one isn't.

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Also Bjc, if you are town, please give us some final reads or so...

Who cares about bjc's reads, even if he's town???

This post is such a throwaway. Fishing for town points. No reason for being.

TvK was bussing bjc, no doubt about it.

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IMO one partner bussed one partner didn't have time to react.

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Kaiveran's post 80 was pretty scummy lol

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"We have so much time!!!!"

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kaiveran's not a bad vote, but I'm inclined to hear more from him.

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ABR, this is gonna sound incredibly fanboyish and queer, but are you going to be using any NLP techniques this game?

I lol'd

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Albert, did you not see Tlachta's vote? If there's at least one scum on Bjc, I'm quite sure it is that slot.

VOTE: Toolenduso

Matias voted Tlachta. There's no reason for killing Matias unless you're Tlachta. Or that's what you want us to believe, because you're scum.

Guys, I guarantee a 90% scumflip for TvK. Let's quicklynch him.

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Tool is definitely town. They killed Matias because he's a good player, not because he voted Tlachta. With Tlachta being replaced, there's no way any scum in this game would kill Matias. Tvk is acting very predictably and I know that he's scum.

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Tool, I hope you're ready for another home run, compadre.

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The only person Matias suspected was tlachta. Scum are trying to frame tlachta. TvK votes tlachta. There's your connection.

In my experience, with a player list like we have, scum would NOT kill Matias if he was right about tlachta.

The reason why:

-Matias wasn't active enough to be a threat
-Matias didn't drop any PR tells or obvious breadcrumbs
-Matias didn't play enough to be considered as tunnel vision on tlachta

The only reason to kill Matias is that they wanted everyone else kept alive, because they thought they could easily frame somebody the next day; like tlachta.

Or they think Matias is a good scumhunter by reputation.

I believe TvK fits the bill for both of these.

Listen, my town game is mostly sitting back and watching players tear themselves apart before swooping in.

The very fact that I'm intervening in such a way states how certain I am of this.

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I'm not a confident town player; unless I'm sure. And I'm sure. Vote TvK, guys.

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Desperado vote for Tvk

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-Matias wasn't active enough to be a threat
-Matias didn't drop any PR tells or obvious breadcrumbs
-Matias didn't play enough to be considered as tunnel vision on tlachta

-You can't really say that anyone was "active enough" when the day ended after 5 pages
-Nobody did
-Sure

Here are my reasons to vote Tool/Tlachta:

-Tlachta was my second biggest scumread last day
-Tlachta's vote was the scummiest of all of the votes on Bjc
-The people that voted Tlachta were either one of my top townreads (TSO) or flipped town last night (Matias)

Still, good to see you are town this game, Albert.

Yeah sure, Tlachta was your second biggest scumread after 3 posts. One a RVS. Second a vote for BJC. And a third calling vonflare town.

Try again, TvK.

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-Matias wasn't active enough to be a threat
-Matias didn't drop any PR tells or obvious breadcrumbs
-Matias didn't play enough to be considered as tunnel vision on tlachta

-You can't really say that anyone was "active enough" when the day ended after 5 pages
-Nobody did
-Sure

Here are my reasons to vote Tool/Tlachta:

-Tlachta was my second biggest scumread last day
-Tlachta's vote was the scummiest of all of the votes on Bjc
-The people that voted Tlachta were either one of my top townreads (TSO) or flipped town last night (Matias)

Still, good to see you are town this game, Albert.

Yeah sure, Tlachta was your second biggest scumread after 3 posts. One a RVS. Second a vote for BJC. And a third calling vonflare town.

Try again, TvK.

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Also Bjc, if you are town, please give us some final reads or so...

You haven't explained this.

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Your full of whimsy and misdirection today!

I voted TvK as RVS.

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How is anxiety doing the same thing as TvK asking bjc for final reads?

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Tvk asking bjc for final reads is scummy. I've explained this before.

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You guys basically think that Kaiveran and tool are scummy because they voted bjc without an elaborate explanation. I'm not interested in this line of thinking.

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I'm largely unimpressed by all these posts distracting us from lynching TvK.

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After 3 posts of Tlachta, you allegedly formed the opinion that he was scum. I looked at his iso Tvk, don't play coy with me. There was nothing in his posts that could sway you to that conclusion. You're backtracking with lies. Muddying the issue with feigned misunderstanding. It's over. We're just waiting on the votes to stack against you now.

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Unvote, vote Desperado

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I don't like you ignoring TvK. My vote will be on you then.

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I can easily see you hammer your buddy for towncred.

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bjc couldn't catch scum if his life depended on it. Tvk knows this. He's just fishing for town points, which is scummy.

Desperado is worst for defending Tvk. It's alarming how little Tvk has mentioned Desperado aside from the hammer, and how much Desperado wants to defend TvK.

IMO one partner bussed one partner didn't have time to react.

Defending Tvk

Agreed; pretty sure it was Kaiveran bussing though. TvK's twilight posts felt town.

Desperado vote for Tvk

The scum on the bjc wagon is Kaiveran though

Deflecting heat on TvK to Kaiveran

thoughts on tool, TvK?

It could also be town getting increasingly fed up with scum not engaging with them

you're right, this could be true, we'll see

Why are you asking TvK for his thoughts on Tool when they should be pretty fucking clear at this point?

ABR, Anxiety is doing exactly what you're accusing TvK of and he fits the scum off the wagon.

Kaiveran/Anxiety Scum 2014

Deflecting heat on Tvk to Anxiety.

We should lynch TvK or Desperado today.

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Kaiveran, calm your tits and play nice.

TSO and Sakura, post content and vote.

Havingfitz, you said you would post content on Friday. We are now Monday. Post.

Anorway, stop lurking or replace out.

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Unvote Desperado, vote Tvk

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Still here. Still want to lynch TvK. Kaiveran, switch to TvK.

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Sakura, who would you compromise to vote for, who are your top picks, and who would you refuse to vote for?

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This is your first mention of TSO. Why do you townread him?

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L-1, please claim.

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Welcome to the game.

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You have to claim now. Stop stalling.

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Hammer him.

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Not for a second, TvK. I've been playing this game for too long to be stopped by this level of deception.

Salmonella, will you do us the honor?

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The hammer will come before anyone unvotes. You've been made.

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Salmonella, do it.

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Pull the damn trigger.

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I don't want to argue or have floppy voters sway and flutter away from this badly concocted fakeclaim.

I want the hammer, Salmonella. Now.

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Don't worry SD, you made the right call.

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In the unlikely scenario that TvK claimed truthfully and flips hider, Desperado is confirmed town.

However, I remain confident that Tvk will flip scum, and then we'll get rid of Desperado tomorrow.

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You're seriously brain damaged if you think I would quickhammer one partner d1 and then buddy the shit out of my other partner d2.

Like, seriously seriously.

I like how you're defending yourself against my hypothetical theory that hinges on the scum flip of a player you are certain is town.

*grabs popcorn*

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TvK flips scum, TSO, I want you to place a vote right in between Desperado's eyes tomorrow. Are you solid on this?

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Albert, you really think TvK would fake a result on his own partner at L-1?

I don't.

Yeah that doesn't seem likely to me. But it probably doesn't matter because if Desperado isn't scum he's probably dead tonight.

I'll take that under advisement. We can talk tomorrow after the dust settles.

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Vote: Kaiveran

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I'm 1-shot commuter. I can only exist if there's a hider.

How come you can only exist if there's a hider?

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I made a mistake. It happens. I didn't claim I knew he was 100% scum. The expediency of the lynch was bad.

What I will say though is this: Tvk played terribly, never breadcrumbed his role, never even hinted at visiting Desperado, he was also not doing the town any favors.

I'm glad Desperado is dead too. We're better off with those two gone.

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Kaiveran was actually my #1 scum pick Day 1, and I would have unvoted TvK if he had claimed vanilla townie. If he had claimed any other role than hider, I would have actually unvoted him.

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Kaiveran is super obvscum. Sometimes I try to hedge my odds and go for someone less likely to be scum but potentially more dangerous, or in TvK's case, just plain annoying.

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lol good vote hf

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Besides the point.

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Kaiveran show me some metal as town and scum.

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meta not metal

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I'm not going to try to convince anyone, make up your own mind. I think Kaiveran is scum and that's that.

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I don't want to explain. I think his posts are scummy. He's been obviously scummy since Day 1 to me.

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Scum is in Kaiveran, Tool and TSO.

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No time to explain.

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I've lost so much interest, I'm not sure.

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That's ridiculous, dude. If I was scum with havingfitz I would have voted you.

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Anxiety feels like lynchbait to me.

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Unvote, vote Sakura Hana

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Not at all.

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If you're town, you should tell me which one of Tool and TSO is scum, if not both.

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Unvote, vote Kaiveran

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Nevermind, Sakura is probably town.

Still think it's in Kaiveran/TSO/Tool.

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Anxiety, if I were scum, I'd hammer the mushrooms out of you right now. I won't do that. Do you trust me a bit more now?

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No...

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You will survive. And help me lynch scum. BOY.

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Unvote, vote Anxiety

I'm thinking Kaiveran/Anxiety scum team.

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I blame vonflare for the mislynch. My own hammer was only out of impatience for this game to move forward.

Anxiety was far from my first choice.

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You're really bad vonflare. Blaming me for someone you have intent to hammer. Yeah, right.

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Post defense???? You weren't even considering anyone else. Man, whatever. Learn signalling.

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I like how Sakura Hana thinks I'm scum no matter what anxiety flips. You need to re-evaluate your reads.

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Doesn't matter. I'm town. Go find another tree to bark on.

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Well, at least I know my crappy play didn't get anyone killed. Props for carrying my slot through, Aegor, and sorry for saddling you with this

Honestly, I think SD and ABR played much worse (which is a BIG fucking surprise coming from the latter. What happened, man?)

I still want to hear about anything I did wrong though, that isn't related to activity.

Not true. My scum group was TSO/Tool/Kaiveran on day 2.

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Day 3*

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Yeah Aegor, you were catching on.

I have no idea why Albert thought that TvK was lying

I thought there was no way theres both a hider and a commuter in a little italy game. I derped and confused this game with the other one. I was actually super busy during the course of this game and could only vaguely follow it. Replaced out of almost all my other games.